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kevinsmith
12-02-2005, 03:59 PM
Greeeeeeat! :rolleyes:

ATLANTA , Georgia (AP) -- A deadly bacterial illness commonly seen in people on antibiotics appears to be growing more common -- even in patients not taking such drugs, according to a report published Thursday in a federal health journal.

In another article in the New England Journal of Medicine, health officials said samples of the same bacterium taken from eight U.S. hospitals show it is mutating to become even more resistant to antibiotics.

"I don't want to scare people away from using antibiotics. ... But it's concerning, and we need to respond," said Dr. L. Clifford McDonald, an author of both articles and an epidemiologist at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Hospitals need to be conducting surveillance and implementing control measures. And all of us need to realize the risk of antibiotic use may be increasing" as the bacteria continue to mutate, McDonald said.

The bacterium is Clostridium difficile, also known as C-diff. The germ is becoming a regular menace in hospitals and nursing homes, and last year it was blamed for 100 deaths over 18 months at a hospital in Quebec, Canada.

"What exactly has made C-diff act up right now, we don't know," McDonald said.

The article published in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report focused on cases involving 33 otherwise healthy people that were reported since 2003 in Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey and New Hampshire.

Most of the 33 hadn't been in a hospital within three months of getting sick, and eight said they hadn't taken any antibiotics in that span.

C-diff is found in the colon and can cause diarrhea and a more serious intestinal condition known as colitis. It is spread by spores in feces.

The spores are difficult to kill with most conventional household cleaners. Even washing your hands with an antibacterial soap doesn't eliminate all the germs.

C-diff has grown resistant to certain antibiotics that work against other colon bacteria. The result: When patients take those antibiotics, particularly clindamycin, competing bacteria die off and C-diff explodes.

One of the 33 patients in the report died -- a 31-year-old Pennsylvania woman who was 14 weeks pregnant with twins when she first went to the emergency room with symptoms. Despite treatment with antibiotics considered effective against C-diff, she lost the fetuses and then died.

Ten of the 33 were otherwise healthy pregnant women or women who had recently given birth who had had brief hospital stays. The rest were people in the Philadelphia area who had not been in a hospital in the three months before their illness.

The New England Journal of Medicine article looked at C-diff samples taken between 2000 and 2003 from eight hospitals in six states -- Georgia, Illinois, Maine, New Jersey, Oregon and Pennsylvania.

The researchers found that a virulent strain of C-diff rarely seen before 2000 accounted for more than half of the samples taken in the hospitals. What's more, the BI strain -- as it is called -- seems to have built resistance to two of the newest antibiotics in the fluoroquinolones class commonly used in hospitals.

Much of the data was presented at a scientific meeting in Boston last year, McDonald said.

Another NEJM article looked at the occurrence of C-diff in 12 hospitals in Quebec. Researchers counted 1,703 patients with C-diff illnesses, and 422 died within 30 days of diagnosis.

Exposure to fluoroquinolones and other antibiotics was clearly a risk for patients, according to the Canadian researchers who wrote the article.

Doctors watching for C-diff in hospitals and nursing home patients need to look for it in other patients as well, McDonald said.

Patients need to be wary too. "If you have severe diarrhea, seek attention from a physician," he said.


I've always said that it will be something like this that brings down the human race. Why does everyone insist on everything being antibacterial these days? All they are doing is helping to create super bugs.

Nocturnal
12-02-2005, 04:04 PM
Add to that the lazy doctors willing to perscribe antiobiotics to whiny patients who have viral illnesses.

Kazimierz
12-02-2005, 04:47 PM
But don't you fucking dare call this evolution. God created new super bacteria because he's bitter and angry!

Avo
12-02-2005, 04:49 PM
Kaz, I thought you didnt believe in God? hmmm, I could of swarn you said that before

Kazimierz
12-02-2005, 04:51 PM
Kaz, I thought you didnt believe in God? hmmm, I could of swarn you said that before

I'm a Catholic...

And my first post was sarcasm.

Nocturnal
12-02-2005, 04:54 PM
But don't you fucking dare call this evolution. God created new super bacteria because he's bitter and angry!

Clearly some intelligent force want's to destroy humanity. ;)

Asbestos Crayon
12-02-2005, 05:06 PM
Deadly is to be guarantied death if it happens right? So deadlier is what? Sucking one's soul out after death?

Sounds like killing some one until they are dead to me.

YouEnjoyMyself
12-02-2005, 05:13 PM
Deadly is to be guarantied death if it happens right? So deadlier is what? Sucking one's soul out after death?

Sounds like killing some one until they are dead to me.

Perhaps it is deadlier because it is harder to kill and easier to contract?

Avo
12-02-2005, 05:34 PM
I'm a Catholic...

And my first post was sarcasm.

ah, I was about to say, if you didnt believe in God, why put the blame on him. All cool now.

kevinsmith
12-02-2005, 07:25 PM
But don't you fucking dare call this evolution. God created new super bacteria because he's bitter and angry!


Clearly some intelligent force want's to destroy humanity.


When people do this and sarcastically blame Bush due to perceived attacks, some of you guys bitch and say how much you hate it when Bush backers do that. But here you go, doing the same thing! (Insert snotty teenage sigh here.) :motz_6:



Add to that the lazy doctors willing to perscribe antiobiotics to whiny patients who have viral illnesses


They do it just to shut their patients up...not that that is the right thing to do. It's rather irresponsible.

Kazimierz
12-02-2005, 07:47 PM
When people do this and sarcastically blame Bush due to perceived attacks, some of you guys bitch and say how much you hate it when Bush backers do that. But here you go, doing the same thing! (Insert snotty teenage sigh here.) :motz_6:

Stop it (http://www.aitinstitute.org/Index%20Page%20art/crying%20boy.jpg)........

ThaiTanium22
12-02-2005, 07:57 PM
The Earth is already over populated. Let the bacteria/disease kill a couple million people and then it'll go away. Disease is nature's way ending over population.

Living_Sin
12-03-2005, 04:31 PM
oh no...

i've been on antibiotics for a week now for a sinus infection, and i've been getting the shits (not the "Tubgirl" watery kind, though)

the doctor told me i'd get an upset stomach, but i don't know anymore

i'm too young to die...

I SNAKED YOU
12-03-2005, 04:43 PM
The Earth is already over populated. Let the bacteria/disease kill a couple million people and then it'll go away. Disease is nature's way ending over population.
I agree totally.

Clearly some intelligent force want's to destroy humanity. ;)
Who wouldn't want to take out the single thing destroying earth.
GOD damm humans killing earth.

Chubi Chan
12-03-2005, 06:02 PM
HAH!Makes me laugh.Before I got my first root canal,I took the anti-biotics the dentist gave me religiously...shit only evolves if you give it the chance to.If people would just take their shit when they're susposed to,and only have it when they're susposed to,then most modern bacteria wouldn't exist.

Then again,if everyone just stopped shooting at each other and stopped knifeing each other,the world would be a more peaceful place:rolleyes: for me to shoot and knife people in

daveo the great
12-04-2005, 05:22 AM
Deadly is to be guarantied death if it happens right? So deadlier is what? Sucking one's soul out after death?

Sounds like killing some one until they are dead to me.

deadly means it has a good chance of kiling without treatment.

deadlier means it is more likely to kill without treatment, and/or harder to treat. harder to treat meaning less likely to be successfully cured.

Deltron3030
12-04-2005, 07:04 AM
ARS,Birdflu

NOW THIS!!!!!

"hoots himself"

Stanky105
12-05-2005, 02:28 AM
This does scare me a bit... it looks like it may be up to nano technology to destroy the bacteria in the future, although that could be opening up a whole new can of worms.

kevinsmith
12-05-2005, 11:55 AM
The ones that get me are the microbiologists who go around making various types of bacteria just for shits and giggles. One of these days they are going to create something that wipes us out. Seriously, man always thinks that we can conquer nature, and nature eventually somes around and kicks our ass back. Such as, say New Orleans. This will just be another way that man gets shown we shouldn't be so arrogant.