Oregon gets screwed again.

[ftbllplr]

Well, the BCS bowl matchups recently came out and Oregon got the shaft, just like in 2001. The Ducks(10-1) have moved up to #5 in the USA Today and BCS polls and #6 in the Harris poll, but were left out of a BCS bowl for a team less deserving: Notre Dame, who are #5 in the Harris poll, #6 in the USA Today poll, and tied for #10 in the BCS poll. We tried it and, frankly, it isn't working. The BCS is a good idea, but needs major work. Oregon has to play in the Holiday Bowl against Oklahoma, who are not even ranked in the top 25.

[troutofdoom]

Yeah, screw you BCS.

[reidtheweed04]

Well, the BCS bowl matchups recently came out and Oregon got the shaft, just like in 2001. The Ducks(10-1) have moved up to #5 in the USA Today and BCS polls and #6 in the Harris poll, but were left out of a BCS bowl for a team less deserving: Notre Dame, who are #5 in the Harris poll, #6 in the USA Today poll, and tied for #10 in the BCS poll. We tried it and, frankly, it isn't working. The BCS is a good idea, but needs major work. Oregon has to play in the Holiday Bowl against Oklahoma, who are not even ranked in the top 25.

Think about this, the score of the usc vs notre dame game, and the score of the usc vs oregon game, and then you'll know why.

I dont get what all of this bitching about the bcs is for, because at least it tries to put the 1 and 2 team in the title game, but what you people dont seem to realize is what is used to be like. If their was no BCS then guess how it would have went. The No. 1 pac10, and the No. 1 big ten in the rose bowl. So it would be usc vs. penn state, and we all know thats not right. If it was like that and penn state were to win the big ten with some stupid record like 8-4, they would still go because they won the big ten. So quit bitching about the BCS because, its better then the old system.

[troutofdoom]

It has nothing to do with the score versus USC. Notre Dame got an *AUTOMATIC* place because of their contract with the BCS, because they were in the top 6.

At least, that's how I understand it. Besides, margin of victory isn't supposed to matter.

[100%pureoj]

It seems like alot of people disagree with the BCS rulings. Im sure they will change it to a more traditional way of going with the team with the best record in the next few years.

[reidtheweed04]

It seems like alot of people disagree with the BCS rulings. Im sure they will change it to a more traditional way of going with the team with the best record in the next few years.

it has never been like that, thats why No. 4 michigan, played No. 8 washington state in the 97 title game. Thats also why michigan split the title with no. 1 nebraska, and that happened 3 times from 90-97.

It has nothing to do with the score versus USC. Notre Dame got an *AUTOMATIC* place because of their contract with the BCS, because they were in the top 6.

At least, that's how I understand it. Besides, margin of victory isn't supposed to matter.

i wasnt saying that why, im just saying they already showed how they compete with the top teams, and its not good enough.

[jacl<a$$]

What do think happened to Louisville last year?
The BCS is corrupt. No doubt.

[troutofdoom]

i wasnt saying that why, im just saying they already showed how they compete with the top teams, and its not good enough.

ND lost to unranked Michigan State. They aren't good enough to play against unranked teams.

This is ridiculous. The point is, ND is in the Fiesta bowl because they had a contract, not because they are better than Oregon.

[LeFromage]

ND lost to unranked Michigan State. They aren't good enough to play against unranked teams.

This is ridiculous. The point is, ND is in the Fiesta bowl because they had a contract, not because they are better than Oregon.

Head to head...

Without bias, who do you think would catch a victory ND vs. Oregon?

If your answer is Oregon, you've obviously not watched enough football this year...

If your answer is ND, you can kindly take a seat and allow the system to eat itself alive...

[ftbllplr]

Think about this, the score of the usc vs notre dame game, and the score of the usc vs oregon game, and then you'll know why.


Oregon and Notre Dame had two other common opponents, Washington and Stanford. ND beat UW 36-17, UO won 45-21, ND beat Stanford 38-31, UO won 44-20. By your theory, Oregon should be in the Fiesta Bowl, not Notre Dame. To many people use this excuse. Common opponents dont mean anything. Another thing is that Notre Dame only played 3 teams with winning records, compaired to 6 for Oregon. Any way you cut it, Oregon got the shaft and Notre Dame used its historic past and influential alumni to steal what should be Oregons BCS bowl.

[LeFromage]

^^ Very good point...

Sucks to be you...

Don't worry, my boys would've whooped the shit out of whoever they played...So consider it one less loss...:p

[troutofdoom]

Don't worry, my boys would've whooped the shit out of whoever they played...So consider it one less loss...:p

I'm not sure about that, but you're right. I'd take a win over Oklahoma than a loss to ND. We should focus our energies on making USC lose to Texas. You should've won that game :(

[wackojacko]

I say Oklahoma over Oregon and USC over Texas. I'm a sooner and wouldn't be able to put up with those fucking UT fans for a whole year.

[ftbllplr]

There is no way Oklahoma will beat Oregon. Oklahoma has one good player. Oregon averages almost as many passing yards per game then Oklahoma averages in total yards. Oregon has one of the best defences in the Pac-10, too. Oregon will force OU to throw the ball, hence ending any hope of a win for the Sooners. By the way, what is a Sooner.

[LeFromage]

By the way, what is a Sooner.

For the love of God, I hope you're not from the US...

A Sooner is a term used for the settlers who snuck into the state of Oklahoma before it was officially "opened" to settle by the government...

You should've won that game :(

Tell me about it...

But all in all, we wouldn't have been playing for the Championship anyway. Penn State definately deserves to be there more than Texas. It's just too bad really...

[wsuwarrior]

At least, that's how I understand it. Besides, margin of victory isn't supposed to matter.


actually margin of victory DOES matter now.....Texas doesnt put up 700 points a game just because they can.

[jn_powell]

Holy shit! Who would have ever thought there would be a fan of some school whining about how bad the BCS is and screaming that their school got the shaft. I mean, this has never happened before and the bitching never gets old. Oregon did get the shaft, but it happens to someone every year. Bottom line is that ND draws money, and ND/OU will draw big numbers on TV because of the matchup. Do you think people across the country would give a shit about OU and Oregon? Their ducks for Christ sakes. I still think ND would beat them in a head to head game, but the point is moot on that and I am probably biased being a ND fan and all. Maybe next year quack fans.

[wackojacko]

There is no way Oklahoma will beat Oregon. Oklahoma has one good player. Oregon averages almost as many passing yards per game then Oklahoma averages in total yards. Oregon has one of the best defences in the Pac-10, too. Oregon will force OU to throw the ball, hence ending any hope of a win for the Sooners. By the way, what is a Sooner.

NCAA ranked the Duck's schedule #47. So I can see where you are coming from.

[LeFromage]

ottom line is that ND draws money, and ND/OU will draw big numbers on TV because of the matchup. Do you think people across the country would give a shit about OU and Oregon?

Don't ever refer to THE Ohio State University as "OU" again...

Hell, I even have a problem when people use "OSU"...:motz_6:

[wackojacko]

Don't ever refer to THE Ohio State University as "OU" again...

Hell, I even have a problem when people use "OSU"...:motz_6:

Haha.

Which is worse? OSU as in Oregon or OSU as in Oklahoma?

[jn_powell]

Don't ever refer to THE Ohio State University as "OU" again...

Hell, I even have a problem when people use "OSU"...:motz_6:
Well I meant OSU, and I won't apologize for that. I just can't what to see THE Buckeyes get whooped up on by the Irish. Bring it baby.:D

[ftbllplr]

NCAA ranked the Duck's schedule #47. So I can see where you are coming from.

I found that ranking, and its only based on the cumulative winning percentages of your opponents. I found another ranking where the many more factors are taken into account. It put Oregon at #35, with Oklahoma tied for #36.

[LeFromage]

Haha.

Which is worse? OSU as in Oregon or OSU as in Oklahoma?

I'd go with Oregon State...

At least Oklahoma State has a decent mascot...

Well I meant OSU, and I won't apologize for that. I just can't wait to see THE Buckeyes get whooped up on by the Irish. Bring it baby.:D

Oh it's already been BRUNG!

I fixed your spelling...wait is not spelled w h a t :bigwink:

[patriotwarrior7]

This is what the BCS gets for smoking so much crack. With this bowl system, they're basically predicting the ACC to be a great conference every year. This year, it was a bitch conference, and a bitch team won it.

Why can't the BCS just put the top 8 teams in their rankings in their bowls? Doesn't that make sense? Is it really too hard? Come on.

[wsuwarrior]

because then the #9 team would bitch bitch bitch like the sissy oregon fans are...face it, the pac 10 sucks, the middle of the pack Big Ten teams could go 10-1 in the pac 10 no problem.

[LeFromage]

because then the #9 team would bitch bitch bitch like the sissy oregon fans are...face it, the pac 10 sucks, the middle of the pack Big Ten teams could go 10-1 in the pac 10 no problem.

Quoted for...On the right track...

Though it is true the likes of the Pac-10 don't even come close to matching up with the Big X...It isn't likely that a team like Minnesota, or Wisconsin would only lose once...

Point for point however, the Big X exceeds every level of football in the Pac-10 by LARGE strides...

[reidtheweed04]

Quoted for...On the right track...

Though it is true the likes of the Pac-10 don't even come close to matching up with the Big X...It isn't likely that a team like Minnesota, or Wisconsin would only lose once...

Point for point however, the Big X exceeds every level of football in the Pac-10 by LARGE strides...

actually i think minnesota, and wisconsin would do really good. Just imagine minnesota running the ball against usc, but i dont see how you can call them the middle of the pack. Id say michigan state, northwestern, and purdue(not this year) would be more middle of the pack.

[LeFromage]

actually i think minnesota, and wisconsin would do really good. Just imagine minnesota running the ball against usc, but i dont see how you can call them the middle of the pack. Id say michigan state, northwestern, and purdue(not this year) would be more middle of the pack.

That works too...

Point being the Pac-10 is a lousy conference...

[jn_powell]

Well, the BCS bowl matchups recently came out and Oregon got the shaft, just like in 2001. The Ducks(10-1) have moved up to #5 in the USA Today and BCS polls and #6 in the Harris poll, but were left out of a BCS bowl for a team less deserving: Notre Dame, who are #5 in the Harris poll, #6 in the USA Today poll, and tied for #10 in the BCS poll. We tried it and, frankly, it isn't working. The BCS is a good idea, but needs major work. Oregon has to play in the Holiday Bowl against Oklahoma, who are not even ranked in the top 25.
Wait, I just noticed how you conveniently picked ND to bitch about when you should be whining about Florida State, Georgia, and West Virginia, all of whom are ranked lower than Oregon and ND in all of the polls. Florida State is number 22 across the board for Chrissakes and you bitch about the Irish. :rolleyes: Obviously the system is not perfect if a number 22 can get in just for winning one game. (i.e. conference championship)