What's so good about soccer? Honest question.

[StanleyJenkins]

Honestly, I am not trying to piss someone off, but what's so great about a sport where goalies see a shot every 20 minutes and see roughly five shots on goal a game?

I was browsing the MLS website and saw in 31 games, the most shots any goalie saw was 162 which comes out to 5.22 shots a game which means he saw a shot every 17 minutes.


How can people like a sport without any offense?

[CheeseMonkeys]

I don't like soccer, but whatever... Some people enjoy it.

[MalYoung]

Soccer also confuses me, too boring

[GNR Fan]

I dont know why people like it... It is too boring. But apperently its the most popular sport in the world so there must be somthing that I dont see that makes it fun to watch.

[Kommercial]

Just like everyone else in this thread, I don't like Soccer. I'll stick with American Football.

[.DC.]

I love football (soccer) and I dont understand how anyone can like majority of american sports where there is such high scoring games. In 'soccer' when someone scores it's more special etc
But to be honest i dont really give a shit! i like soccer you dont. Who cares?!

[Henkie]

It's not just about the goals, it's the actions, the skill, the passion...

Anyway, mainly it has the exact same attraction as any other sport, it's what your daddy and you'ld go watch when you where little. I mean, really, I've watched some American Football matches and it's not that great. Baseball is pretty boring to me and basketball wasn't any fun untill the NBA started commercialising it as much as they could. But if that's the sport you and your daddy watched, it's what you'll like...

[Kommercial]

It's not just about the goals, it's the actions, the skill, the passion...

Anyway, mainly it has the exact same attraction as any other sport, it's what your daddy and you'ld go watch when you where little. I mean, really, I've watched some American Football matches and it's not that great. Baseball is pretty boring to me and basketball wasn't any fun untill the NBA started commercialising it as much as they could. But if that's the sport you and your daddy watched, it's what you'll like...

The passion? They riot in other countries because of a Soccer loss.

[piggyman18]

Although I know most of you Americans here are too ignorant to listen to and think about what I have to say about soccer, but I'm going to give it a shot again anyway.

The game ends two hours after kickoff, and the ball is in play for an hour and a half of that. In football, the game is 3 and 1/2 hours from kickoff to final whistle, and the ball is in play for what, 10 minutes? Soccer is a player's game, not a coach's. You can't call timeouts and strategize in the middle of the game. You don't call plays every time you have posession of the ball. It's a game of intelligence and quick reactions on the field.

That stat you said Stanley was below average, for shots on goal. That number doesn't even compare to the total number of shots, and that number doesn't compare to the number of chances.

[JerkyMyTurky]

I can honestly say I understand both sides of the coin, because I was on the other side not so long ago. Prior to 2000, I couldn't stand watching a soccer game. It was absolutely boring to me, I couldn't stand the fact the guys would run back and forth and not accomplish anything. It was frustrating to watch.

What changed? I was amongst a bunch of guys, who were watching the UEFA Cup finals in 2000. Galatasaray vs. Arsenal, one of the most exciting games in UEFA Cup history. I actually got into the game, I was rooting for GS. The game ended in a 0 - 0. Overtime was played and still ended in a 0 - 0. Penalty kicks had to decide the game and Galatasaray won 4 - 1 through penalties and became the first Turkish team to win a European title. They later went on to beat soccer giants Real Madrid in the Super Cup.

After that game, I followed soccer more and more. I learned more about the rules (not too many) and understand the skill level it took to succeed in the game. Since 2000, I've been following soccer, mainly European soccer. That is where the most exciting games are played. The fans are extremely passionate about their teams and their passion sometimes goes too far, but its a sign of dedication.

What I can recommend for those who do not like soccer, is to give it chance during the World Cup. This is the only place you will see the true spirit of the game. The players will be of the best quality and they will be playing their hearts out. Your team is also playing, the U.S. national team. So you have a team you can root for. I am pretty sure, once you follow the team and watch the complete games, you will have more respect for the game and might actually become a fan and follow it more.

[piggyman18]

What I can recommend for those who do not like soccer, is to give it chance during the World Cup. This is the only place you will see the true spirit of the game. The players will be of the best quality and they will be playing their hearts out. Your team is also playing, the U.S. national team. So you have a team you can root for. I am pretty sure, once you follow the team and watch the complete games, you will have more respect for the game and might actually become a fan and follow it more.

You're forgetting how ignorant some of these people are. Getting some of them to give soccer a shot would be like getting your 5 year old son to eat all his spinach. It's just not going to happen.

Hopefully some of you will take what he said though, and watch this coming summer's world cup. We, as in the USA, should be able to put up a fight against some of the better teams this year, so it should be exciting.

[JuliaAguilar]

I could have typed what Jerky said pretty much word-for-word, except for the teams. I didn't understand soccer at all until I actually watched it, and from there I just started to like it more and more. Personally, I don't like games where the score gets ridiculously high. (Basketball, for example - not my favorite by a LONG shot) This is why soccer and hockey are my two favorite sports both to watch and to play.

I guess I like soccer because I can appreciate the amount of athleticism required to participate in a match. The game is non-stop, unlike most American sports, where the clock stops constantly and play is interrupted for commercials. It's just not the same.

Of course, I can't really explain why I like soccer so much ... I just do. :)

[liquid jesus]

soccer is a very very fun sport to play. But it is so damn boring to watch. Ill take good ole american football over it anyday.

[EvaMonkey]

As the only English person so far in this thread I thought I'd throw my £0.02 in...

Football (thats it's name), is the most popular sport in the world apart from the U.S., like Jerky said most of the time it's about skill and tactics... the only time the manager gets to talk to his team is at half-time (45 minutes in), there he has about 15 minutes to discuss what needs to happen for the next 45 minutes for his team to win... no time outs, no special plays, just good old fashion tactics.

I love a high scoring game, dont get me wrong, it's funny when your side trounces the other and it's awesome when your side crawls back from a 3-0 scorline to win... it does happen.
But the excitement is in the chances, it's in the adrenalin rushing though your veins as the ball is taken from your side of the field to the other, as it's passed 18 times between 3 players as they confuse and divert the other team, then as one of the players pulls back with his foot and belts the ball... theres a split second where everyone holds their breath... only for the ball to hit the post, but thats part of the game.
Being denyed a goal spurs everyone on to try hader.

Watch the world cup next year, watch as everyone in the world focus' on this magnificent sport... go in with open minds, dont think "Bah, soccar is shite" give it a chance, watch a Brazil game or an Argentina game, or an England game, just watch the tounament...

because next year, we footie fans are going to be owning this section for two weeks ;)

See you in Germany.

ENGLAND *CLAP CLAP CLAP* ENGLAND *CLAP CLAP CLAP* ENGLAND

[NYG 5]

The passion? They riot in other countries because of a Soccer loss.

its called people in europe get drunk in greater excess than americans. or because americans are too fatass to go aroung breaking windows.

[cmacdon]

Honestly, I am not trying to piss someone off, but what's so great about a sport where goalies see a shot every 20 minutes and see roughly five shots on goal a game?

I was browsing the MLS website and saw in 31 games, the most shots any goalie saw was 162 which comes out to 5.22 shots a game which means he saw a shot every 17 minutes.


How can people like a sport without any offense?

Well there's your problem. MLS sucks. I try to catch any Premiership League games or Spanish Primera when they're on, but the only MLS game I watched was the championship between NE and LA. MLS sucks though.

[JuliaAguilar]

In time, I think the MLS will come into its own. It's still a young league, but given a good decade or so, there will be more interest and more talent.

[clutch-monkey]

i have to say soccer and volleyball are my two favourite sports - apart from clay pigeon shooting - and the only sports that will get me up off my ass to play :D
however, to watch on tv i don't mind rugby and american football, but in general i prefer to play rather than watch. if you try soccer for the first time you probably won't like it becuase you don't know the rules etc.

[jcthompson76]

While I like the strides the MLS has attempted at bringing soccer (sorry, I'm American) to the USA sports consious, the league itself is rather crap. They've brought European teams like Man Utd, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Celtic, AC MIlan and others over here for some exhibition matches against their American counterparts. The talent and ability difference is a bit jaw dropping. A sports critic rightly said the best sides in the MLS are equivalent to maybe a mid to upper level team in England's Championship league, the league below the Premiership. Watch a English Premiership match or Spanish Liga match to get a better view of the real talent the sport possesses. Or wait for the World Cup this coming summer. USA has qualified so that should at least spur on some national interest here.

ESPN2 has the Chelsea-Liverpool Champs League match on this afternoon. Give that a look. Even though nothing is on the line for this match (both teams have qualified for knock-out stage) I think Liverpool will be looking to erase a 4-1 shaming Chelsea handed them earlier in the Premier League.

[Superior_to_you]

The only good football is an American football.

As someone who has played both soccer and football, soccer sucks. =P

[sinner78]

it gets fanatical following in every country in the globe .Even gets big support in North america. Its easily number one most popular global game by a country mile.
every country in the world has a national team and there are numerous high level domestic leagues. Go to any corner of the globe and people will be kicking a ball around.
It doesnt matter if its south america ,africa ,europe ,asia or wherever..
ignorant clowns from USA like to think its just a "euro-game"..
haha couldnt be further from the truth.


Just because it aint got massive scorelines ,constant timeouts for pretzel breaks ,constant video replays ,cheerleaders ,every cheesy aspect of american sports.......doesnt make it bad.
I guess the sport aint right for people who have the attention span of a goldfish. I bet anything that requires patience ,strategy and tactics without the constant need for timeouts and coach intervention is too mentally challenging for your average joker in america.How many fvckin co-ordinators does an american football team have??? unlike in soccer where the players do all the thinking most of the time.


as for the comments about riots!!! hahah there have been numerous sports related riots in USA .usually involving drunken frat clowns .

[Mr. Heskey]

it gets fanatical following in every country in the globe .Even gets big support in North america. Its easily number one most popular global game by a country mile.
every country in the world has a national team and there are numerous high level domestic leagues. Go to any corner of the globe and people will be kicking a ball around.
It doesnt matter if its south america ,africa ,europe ,asia or wherever..
ignorant clowns from USA like to think its just a "euro-game"..
haha couldnt be further from the truth.


Just because it aint got massive scorelines ,constant timeouts for pretzel breaks ,constant video replays ,cheerleaders ,every cheesy aspect of american sports.......doesnt make it bad.
I guess the sport aint right for people who have the attention span of a goldfish. I bet anything that requires patience ,strategy and tactics without the constant need for timeouts and coach intervention is too mentally challenging for your average joker in america.How many fvckin co-ordinators does an american football team have??? unlike in soccer where the players do all the thinking most of the time.


as for the comments about riots!!! hahah there have been numerous sports related riots in USA .usually involving drunken frat clowns .

You fail at life. American football requires much more tactical skill than soccer does IMO. All I see is when I watch a soccer game once in a blue moon (If I can stay awake longer than 5 minutes) is a ball being kicked back and forth for an hour and a half. It sucks.

[sinner78]

You fail at life. American football requires much more tactical skill than soccer does IMO.


American football teams have countless co-ordinators and coaches on the sidelines making all the moves .They pass messages to the players constantly on and off the field of play for the whole freakin game. You get constant timeouts and breaks during the game .
as opposed to soccer.........a sport where the players do the thinking .
They get a tactical plan at the start of the game and have to implement it for 2 non stop halves of 45 minute action .
Soccer players wont have the benefit of having a co-ordinator tell them where to stand and move via an earpiece .
its the players who have the brains and not the coaches y'see!!!!

why do you think every country in the world plays soccer???
and nobody apart from america plays your brand of football??



All I see is when I watch a soccer game once in a blue moon (If I can stay awake longer than 5 minutes)

cheers for admitting you dont even watch it .thus rendering your argument null and void .You even admit to having a short attention span ,like i joked about before.
just because there aint commercial breaks and timeouts every 5 minutes dont make it a bad game. :lmao:

[Nick is cool]

Although I know most of you Americans here are too ignorant to listen to and think about what I have to say about soccer, but I'm going to give it a shot again anyway.

The game ends two hours after kickoff, and the ball is in play for an hour and a half of that. In football, the game is 3 and 1/2 hours from kickoff to final whistle, and the ball is in play for what, 10 minutes? Soccer is a player's game, not a coach's. You can't call timeouts and strategize in the middle of the game. You don't call plays every time you have posession of the ball. It's a game of intelligence and quick reactions on the field.

That stat you said Stanley was below average, for shots on goal. That number doesn't even compare to the total number of shots, and that number doesn't compare to the number of chances.



First off, in a whole game there are atleast 30 minutes of plays. And atleast in football there is action. In soccer the only person who really moves is the person with the ball, no one trys to get open because they play a zone defence and they just stand there, wait till they get a pass and eventually after 9 hours of this they try to score.

[Nick is cool]

American football teams have countless co-ordinators and coaches on the sidelines making all the moves .They pass messages to the players constantly on and off the field of play for the whole freakin game. You get constant timeouts and breaks during the game .
as opposed to soccer.........a sport where the players do the thinking .
They get a tactical plan at the start of the game and have to implement it for 2 non stop halves of 45 minute action .
Soccer players wont have the benefit of having a co-ordinator tell them where to stand and move via an earpiece .
its the players who have the brains and not the coaches y'see!!!!

why do you think every country in the world plays soccer???
and nobody apart from america plays your brand of football??





cheers for admitting you dont even watch it .thus rendering your argument null and void .You even admit to having a short attention span ,like i joked about before.
just because there aint commercial breaks and timeouts every 5 minutes dont make it a bad game. :lmao:



Yea i know, when the coaches send in plays the quarterback just drops back and then the cordinator sends in the message of who to throw to and when, and during a running play if hes about to get tackled the cordinator tells him how to avoid the tackle. :rolleyes: dumbass

[FAJA]

All I see is when I watch a soccer game once in a blue moon (If I can stay awake longer than 5 minutes) is a ball being kicked back and forth for an hour and a half. It sucks.

To be fair though, much the same thing could be said about American football. It's two teams throwing a ball back and forth and in many cases a large number of passes are incomplete anyway. Although it's a moot point for me really as I don't particularly like soccer anyway (being from the UK if I say that I get much the same response as if i'd said "I've just killed a woman and dumped her body in a bog not far from here").

[Sherlock]

The most experience most Americans have of football when growing up is a school "soccer" team. And even then its probably a girls team.
I have played and watched American football, I enjoyed playing it. Its like rugby with more padding. I didnt enjoy watching it so much.
Another reason might be the the MLS is shit, Ive watched it. When Man Utd played MLS teams we used our reserves and still won.
Watch the world cup, the draw is on friday. And watch decent teams. USA is getting better at it.
Like whats been said before, its by far the No.1 most popular sport on the planet, America is probably the only one that doesnt take it seriously.

[JX252]

Yea i know, when the coaches send in plays the quarterback just drops back and then the cordinator sends in the message of who to throw to and when, and during a running play if hes about to get tackled the cordinator tells him how to avoid the tackle. :rolleyes: dumbass


Not true at all. The coach will relay a play to the quarterback, and it's up to him to execute it properly. Very rarely will you have a coach speaking into the ear of a quarterback during a play going on. Same thing with a running play. The back will get the ball, and it's up to him to find the hole to run through in order to gain yardage. You don't have a coordinator holding your hand through the entire game. These positions require a lot of skill, the quarterback has to be able to read a defense, recognize what they're doing, throw the ball to a receiver, and make sure they're open, all in the span of a few seconds.

I'm not bashing soccer either, but it doesn't hold my attention. I'm assuming the Premiership is the cream of the crop, but how many other leagues are there?

[EvaMonkey]

I saw USA at the last world-cup... they beat France and got through to the second round.

thats the best they've done to my recolection... America is slowly catching up to the rest of the world.


I'm not bashing soccer either, but it doesn't hold my attention. I'm assuming the Premiership is the cream of the crop, but how many other leagues are there?

in England theres 4 leauge tables

The Premiership - top
The Championship - second
1st division - third
2nd division - fourth

The premiership is where the big teams play (Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.)

they teams go further down the table untill they reach the bottom of the 2nd divion where they... just suck really

But thats just England, Asia has a league, Italy has a league, South America, all over really.

I think USA is the only one without top tier teams (no offence)

[Quiet_Riot]

The premiership is where the big teams play (Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.)



Hey fucker..you missed out City, they don't belong in the "etc" group.

*searches for a gross vid as Eva's punishment*

[Sherlock]

Hey fucker..you missed out City, they don't belong in the "etc" group.

*searches for a gross vid as Eva's punishment*
To most Americans, your "that other Manchester team." :lol:

[Quiet_Riot]

To most Americans, your "that other Manchester team." :lol:

Pff, city were formed in 1865..man u? 1878...bitches.

[reidtheweed04]

go over to the video sections, and those idiots, the same 1s that would take a sword over a gun in a fight, say that football players are just big fat bums, and fall on top of people, and they will debate about this forever. They will go on and on how any soccer player would beat the shit out of a football player, and that rugby players would too, but im pretty sure they have never even seen football. They arnt even close the only thing is that their is contact, and they get the idea from watching jackass and seeing them just hit each other.

[piggyman18]

go over to the video sections, and those idiots, the same 1s that would take a sword over a gun in a fight, say that football players are just big fat bums, and fall on top of people, and they will debate about this forever. They will go on and on how any soccer player would beat the shit out of a football player, and that rugby players would too, but im pretty sure they have never even seen football. They arnt even close the only thing is that their is contact, and they get the idea from watching jackass and seeing them just hit each other.

Here's a tip. Understand what you're going to say before you say it.

[Mr. Heskey]

American football teams have countless co-ordinators and coaches on the sidelines making all the moves .They pass messages to the players constantly on and off the field of play for the whole freakin game. You get constant timeouts and breaks during the game .
as opposed to soccer.........a sport where the players do the thinking .
They get a tactical plan at the start of the game and have to implement it for 2 non stop halves of 45 minute action .
Soccer players wont have the benefit of having a co-ordinator tell them where to stand and move via an earpiece .
its the players who have the brains and not the coaches y'see!!!!

why do you think every country in the world plays soccer???
and nobody apart from america plays your brand of football??





cheers for admitting you dont even watch it .thus rendering your argument null and void .You even admit to having a short attention span ,like i joked about before.
just because there aint commercial breaks and timeouts every 5 minutes dont make it a bad game. :lmao:


This is probably a moot point, but just hear me out. Imagine if the two games were a war (I know, stupid) But war has to have the generals and colonels (coaches) and the leiutanent (quarterback) and the footsoldiers (everyone else) They all plan and converge about what to do and how to do it and when to do it all in a master plan. In soccer, all the players do is just run out onto the field and kick a white ball into a goal doesn't make much sense to me. Football is a helluva lot more 3-dimensional in which you can make plays with points ranging from 1 points, 2 points, 3 points, and 6 points. The timeouts are not just to have the players take breaks, and for our capitalistic economy to show commercials, their there mostly as a tactic. I have seen many a games won simply because the teams were able to take more timeouts, thus preserving time on the clock in able to score more points. And by the way, the coaches don't tell the players what they want them to do through an earpiece. Many times when the stadium they are in is loud, the players and coaches often have to resort to a system of hand signals to determine which plays to make. And by the way, all of the "cheesy" stuff that America has in football games (cheerleaders..) all adds to the expirience of the game. When your team is down, you can always watch the cheerleaders, or in college football you can watch the halftime performance bands. Pre game and post game activities, such as tailgating (If you don't know what this is, I'll explain) makes the game a lot more enjoyable too.

And by the way, with you living over in England, I doubt you get many American football games, making your arguments pointless as well. I have found many inaccuracies in your words as you have mine. So let bygones be bygones and lets just accept the fact that we like two seperate sports. I hate soccer and you hate football. I also might add to the fact that over in Europe, the fans are much worse there, than over here. Yes, we have people slash tires, and light couches on fire after the game, but at least we don't kill people from the opposing team, reducing ourselves to barbarians...


That is my 2 cents for now.

[James Bond 007]

Honestly, I am not trying to piss someone off, but what's so great about a sport where goalies see a shot every 20 minutes and see roughly five shots on goal a game?

I was browsing the MLS website and saw in 31 games, the most shots any goalie saw was 162 which comes out to 5.22 shots a game which means he saw a shot every 17 minutes.


How can people like a sport without any offense?
I think you answered your own question..... The MLS is the shittest league in the world, its full of past-their-best european old men.
MLS is the equivilent of the Welsh Spastic 3rd division.
I would run rings around MLS "Stars".

Try watching real football and not that shite "Socceeerball" in America and maybe you will see why its the most popular sport on earth.

And as for City being "the other team from Manchester" Sherlock, Manchester City are the only team in Manchester, those red scum Man U play in Stretford, also as QR said City is older than Manure.
God I hate Man U fans!

To any Americans that want a team to follow heres my advice....

L!, I!, V!.... E!, R!, P!,..... DOUBLE O! L! LIVERPOOL FC!!!

[Sherlock]

Yes, I know we play in stretford and city formed first. Cant we have a friendly piss take any more? :)

[MrDeliquent85]

L!, I!, V!.... E!, R!, P!,..... DOUBLE O! L! LIVERPOOL FC!!!

Do all you scouse faggots do the cheerleader routine ?

:boink:

[Nick is cool]

Not true at all. The coach will relay a play to the quarterback, and it's up to him to execute it properly. Very rarely will you have a coach speaking into the ear of a quarterback during a play going on. Same thing with a running play. The back will get the ball, and it's up to him to find the hole to run through in order to gain yardage. You don't have a coordinator holding your hand through the entire game. These positions require a lot of skill, the quarterback has to be able to read a defense, recognize what they're doing, throw the ball to a receiver, and make sure they're open, all in the span of a few seconds.

I'm not bashing soccer either, but it doesn't hold my attention. I'm assuming the Premiership is the cream of the crop, but how many other leagues are there?


I guess you didnt sense my sarcasm :) I was trying to defend football.

[James Bond 007]

Do all you scouse faggots do the cheerleader routine ?

:boink:
Yes, yes we do! ;)

[Grindingwinger]

Ask a soccer hooligan that question in England. See what they have to say. Me personally, I dont mind soccer, I think it is a good workout.

[j.elohim]

We don't care if you don't like football, we don't want you to play it anyways.


We also don't care if the scousers don't like us, or the bitters
But...y'know it has to be said of city that...

"They've got the tallest floodlights in the Football League,
They've got the tallest floodlights in the Football League.
They've got the tallest floodlights in the Football League
Oh city are a massive club!"


United > England

:D

I miss Manc :wah:

[Canty]

To most Americans, your "that other Manchester team." :lol:

Bolton Wanderers?;)

[CarlingUK]

I'll tell you why people love Football (soccer) its because the passion.

I follow a side in the 3rd tier of english football they aint the best side in the world infact far from it but there is nothing better than going down to the pub on a saturday then going to the match with 8,000 other fans who all follow my club and watching the game. Its like being part of a family who all look after each other and all love there club.

Ok i know some times passion spills out into trouble but most times it doesnt its just a minority who are not passionate they just want a fight. If any of you yanks are ever in England or any european country and you can get to a game especially a Derby (two local rivals) I urge you to go. There is nothing better than having a good sing song and watching fully grown men and women go through ever emotion possible in the human body in just 90 minutes.

I have watched msl games and your fans just are not passionate wheres the chanting wheres the standing up for 90 minutes bouncing up and down supporting your team. Thats why Football is so great obviously you yanks are lacking passion!!!!!

[Head$hrinker]

Agreed, football is about real passion in England, not about whooping and hollering like a moron whilst seeing how many hot dogs and root beers you can cram down your neck during the match like in the states.

Its a culture thing...

[Sherlock]

Bolton Wanderers?
Thats the "other" other Manchester team.:bigwink:

[Prince_Vegeta]

Thats the "other" other Manchester team.:bigwink:

Stockport County? :bigwink:

[Sherlock]

Stockport County? :bigwink:
Piss off....:squint:

not really, we love you.

[GrammarFocus]

I've been to watch American Football games, I've also been to watch several football games. No competition really.

http://www.raithroversfc.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi

They're my local team, I'm tellin you... Nothin better on a Satarday than goin for a sing along at the Rovers while watchin them get raped (not literally) by some shit team, with a mince pie and a Bovril/Tea. Fun all the same though:)

[James Bond 007]

Stockport County? :bigwink:
LOL, they are my local team, Im a massive Liverpool fan and go as often as my budget allows but I have paid my dues, I have been to County loads of times.
Its realy poor football (if you can call it that) but its fun going to Edgerly for a few pints and a pie then off to the game......

Some of the chants the County fans sing are as poor as the team itself....

Meat pie, sausage roll, come on County give us a goal!!! :lmao:

[Quiet_Riot]

Yes, I know we play in stretford and city formed first. Cant we have a friendly piss take any more? :)


I was merely jesting with you sunshine :D

And bolton is not manchester..it's scumland. :bigwink:

[CarlingUK]

LOL, they are my local team, Im a massive Liverpool fan and go as often as my budget allows but I have paid my dues, I have been to County loads of times.
Its realy poor football (if you can call it that) but its fun going to Edgerly for a few pints and a pie then off to the game......

Some of the chants the County fans sing are as poor as the team itself....

Meat pie, sausage roll, come on County give us a goal!!! :lmao:

Hmmm I am a Tranmere Fan and i have never heard them singing that although I do know that they are probably better supporters than Liverpool. I challenge you to adopt a lower league club and go week in week out go through all the highs and lows (and there are a lot more lows supporting lower league clubs) the fans from the lower leagues are hardcore!!!

[James Bond 007]

Hmmm I am a Tranmere Fan and i have never heard them singing that although I do know that they are probably better supporters than Liverpool. I challenge you to adopt a lower league club and go week in week out go through all the highs and lows (and there are a lot more lows supporting lower league clubs) the fans from the lower leagues are hardcore!!!
I was talking about Stockport County not Tranmere Rovers.
I have been going to Liverpool for years and its only recently (2001- present) we have had much success.
I have paid to go and watch piss poor Liverpool teams giving piss poor performances and then sitting in a car on the way home thinking how much I wanted to punch Roy Evans and then G. houllier in the throat.

[CarlingUK]

Mate Liverpool are the most succesful English team ever and I cannot remember once since the premiership starting them finishing below mid table. I have watched Tranmere be relegated lose out on a cup final and miss out on a chance of being promoted so many times its un true.

Ive seen players who I can actually say hand on my heart I am better than you have seen world class players!!.

And I know Stockport and Tranmere arnt the same team but I have been to enougth games to know they do not sing that stupid song.

[Prince_Vegeta]

Warning Long Story...

All this talk of lower league English football reminds me of the time I went to see Hereford play away at Shrewsbury in the Conference for a friend's birthday.

To make the day clearer to people, it was the exact same day England won the Rugby world cup.

I had to travel by train from Nottingham through to Birmingham New Street (we were listening to the rugby coverage on a portable radio and getting wasted with a few Tamworth fans who were heading to their own conference game with Telford :lol:) and then make a mad dash to catch a coach to Shrewsbury.

Anyways, after a good morning of travelling we got to Shrewsbury (where it was pissing down, cold and misty) and managed to get tickets from a guy in the city centre (I think he had bought them in advance for my friend). We headed to the game singing...

'West Country la la la, Shrews-bu-ree wank wank wank'

..and headed into the away end which was more like a chicken coop. Now unlike a Premiership ground where you are allocated seats, here you could stand anywhere, so we stood behind the goal so we could give the home keeper some stick... (think along the lines of 'dodgy keeper', 'you fat bastard' etc).

The game kicked off and was a spirited affair. Sadly for us travelling fans Hereford played a donkey and were 4-0 going into the 90th minute. Thats when one of their subs (fucked if I can remember his name) slotted home to make it 4-1.

Seeing as all us travelling Hereford fans were absolutely caned off our arses we began to wind the home fans up by singing...

'You're not singin' anymore...'

...which led to ruptures of abuse and booing from the embarrassed home fans and a few of their nutters tried to climb the cage and get into our end where they were promptly beaten by a 70 year old, obese Hereford fan with his walking stick! (I'll always remember the look on his face... so determined :lol:)

After the game we all headed off to the train station. However, supposedly there was some bad blood between rival gangs affiliated with Shrewsbury and Hereford and, as such, the station was surrounded by shrewsbury louts throwing bottles at anything wearing black and white. We were promptly ushered into the station by the police with a few swift whacks of the baton... nice.

So we were all stuck on the station platform (which was ok for the majority of fans as there was a train direct to Hereford). However, we needed to get back to Nottingham and needed to catch a coach waiting outside the station.

We noticed that there was an elevator unguarded by the police so we took it upon ourselves to try and escape the station. The elevator reached the ground floor and the coast looked clear... that is until a huge wolf of an Alsatian police dog took a swipe at one of our party from out of nowhere.

Panicked, we all pegged it out of the station and under a hail of beer and glass, managed to leap onto a bus just before it left the depot. We were safe, we were drunk and we were happy. (And consequently went out on the town as soon as we got back to Nottingham - England had won the Rugby World Cup after all!)

I wouldn't trade an adventure like that for the world! And its all thanks to 'the beautiful game'!

The End.

[CarlingUK]

awww mate thats what its all about.

I remember travelling on the train to chesterfield where they have no roof or seats in the away end. Was on a train packed with Tranmere all the way there singing songs and getting drunk was quality we get off the train to a massive police escort, Riot vans police dogs the works .

Head to the town centre make our presence felt and let the locals knew who was in town. Get inside the ground its starts pissing it down so we got soaked as there is no roof a chant of "get off your arse and build a roof goes up" and then our left back smacks a screamer from 30 yards out into the top corner we go mental and head off back to the train. Again followed by about 50 or so of chesterfields finest OB.

Or another time when Tranmere where away against Everton in the F.A. cup we took 8,000 fans across the water to our local rivals. I will never forget the day Tranmere took over Liverpool was one of the proudest days of my life and then beating them 3-0 and doing the conga around the city was legendry.

Thats what football is about I have sooo many storys I could talk all day about some of the adventures we have had. Long may it continue!!!!!

[Dr_PH1L]

Soccer is my main sport. Countless kids on the JV football team said I was a really good receiver, and countless failed at getting me to try out.

I basically don't like football because the coaches all tell you what to do. They tell you what routes to run, which way you should run, and what your defense plays are. However, it does take a lot of skill to play the game(Nickiscool), but it doesn't take any tactical effort. Another thing I can't stand is the breaks 30 seconds of rest inbetween each play! Timeouts too! In soccer there are no breaks exept for when the ball goes out of bounds, which lasts only two seconds. There is also the occasional injured player, but that doesn't happen too often in a game.

Plus there aren't as many commecials in soccer.

[James Bond 007]

And I know Stockport and Tranmere arnt the same team but I have been to enougth games to know they do not sing that stupid song.
I have been and watched County with my mates when I havent been able to get tickets for Liverpool, I have been maybe 20 times and trust me they used to sing that stupid song, they might not do it anymore but I have been to atleast 3 games where that stupid chant has echoed round Edgerly Park.

I commend you anyway for sticking with Tranmere despite having two of the biggest clubs in Britain a stones throw away and even two big Manchester clubs a 30 minute drive away.
Im a red though and would never dream of going supporting anyone else..... I would feel uncomfortable at a lower division local team (Stockport/ Mac' Town/ Tranmere/ Oldham) bcoz I have a big L.F.C tat on my leg and if it was the middle of summer and shorts weather I wouldnt get out of the stadium alive.

[FashiOnistA]

I do like soccer actually.....it's better then Baseball anyway...


But nothing comes close to Hockey....except maybe naked mud wrestling...yummy

[James Bond 007]

But nothing comes close to Hockey....except maybe naked mud wrestling...yummy
Do you just watch the sport or do you play???? Im a keen nakey mud wrestler and Im betting I could take you, wanna take me on? :bigwink:

[CarlingUK]

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?p=1668895#post1668895

I think the clip I posted on the link above perfectly illustrates whats soo good about Football. I was at this match and I went through every emotion that is possible for a human in 90 minutes!!!!

[MrDeliquent85]

You like the sport you grew up with, the sport that you could/did play as a kid. You adopt other sports and some often switch over but most only have love for one sport.

People are different, if you dont like football (soccer) then you dont like it, simple as that.

Personally I feel America is missing out. We all know that America produces top quality athletes (runners, basketballers, american footballers etc) and with the money and devotion to sports they seem to ply, with the right system/schemes in place they could easily be a great force in the worlds most popular sport.

[James Bond 007]

Personally I feel America is missing out. We all know that America produces top quality athletes (runners, basketballers, american footballers etc) and with the money and devotion to sports they seem to ply, with the right system/schemes in place they could easily be a great force in the worlds most popular sport.
Liverpool are setting up loads of acadamies in America and investing a fortune into making football big in America. We are also sending coaches to teach kids how to play and also teach people how to coach.
If its a success then 20 years down the line we could see America emerging as a force in football, maybe even world cup winners.

America is huge its practicaly the size of europe so Im sure they will be able to find 11 good footballers eventualy and like you said the money the US puts into sports is probably only second to weapons funding.
Its just a shame the British government doesnt do anything for sports (Especialy football), they should put more money into sports and less into stupid schemes like speed cameras and other ideas to dry bum the British tax payer.

[tonythetiger]

i hope soccer never comes to America, that would just make the rest of the wrold angry and we would have a World War over some stupid game. I think Baseball is waaaayy more boring than Soccer though, baseball is only cool when you have people hitting home runs everytime they come up to bat. Football is okay but i tihnk Hockey is the coolest sport cause people fight in the game.

[JuliaAguilar]

i hope soccer never comes to America, that would just make the rest of the wrold angry and we would have a World War over some stupid game.

Where the hell have you been for the past ten to twenty years or so? You hope soccer never comes here? Well guess what - soccer has been here. The girls team won the World Cup a few years ago. Our national team has qualified for this coming year's World Cup. We have a professional soccer league.

The rest of that sentence is pretty dumb, too. We'd make the rest of the world angry? Why? Because we can actually agree that soccer is a fun sport - to play and to watch - and because we can actually compete? Or is it because you automatically think that we Americans will be better than anyone else in the world (laughable) and that we would make the other countries angry because we are better? That's absolutely hilarious, because we're not the best. We're working our way up the ladder as far as being competitive in the sport of soccer goes, but we're not on the top. That statement was really stupid.

[FAJA]

Its just a shame the British government doesnt do anything for sports (Especialy football)

The government does more for football than any other sport in the country. I do agree they should do more though.

[ark238]

football(soccer) is the most popular sport in the world, so obviously millions of millions people enjoy it. most of you are raised on american footble. all the media and stuff of sports are mostly around american football not international football.

[tonythetiger]

Where the hell have you been for the past ten to twenty years or so? You hope soccer never comes here? Well guess what - soccer has been here. The girls team won the World Cup a few years ago. Our national team has qualified for this coming year's World Cup. We have a professional soccer league.

The rest of that sentence is pretty dumb, too. We'd make the rest of the world angry? Why? Because we can actually agree that soccer is a fun sport - to play and to watch - and because we can actually compete? Or is it because you automatically think that we Americans will be better than anyone else in the world (laughable) and that we would make the other countries angry because we are better? That's absolutely hilarious, because we're not the best. We're working our way up the ladder as far as being competitive in the sport of soccer goes, but we're not on the top. That statement was really stupid.
calm down forum bitch mom, soccer really hasnt come to america, there are no major stadiums and have you ever heard someone say " Hey i'm going to a soccer game". There are already riots when someone looses a soccer game in a world cup, so how do you think adding the U.S. in the mix would help? Dont know if you play video games but a lot of people hate America on there.

[Mr. Heskey]

I'll tell you why people love Football (soccer) its because the passion.

I follow a side in the 3rd tier of english football they aint the best side in the world infact far from it but there is nothing better than going down to the pub on a saturday then going to the match with 8,000 other fans who all follow my club and watching the game. Its like being part of a family who all look after each other and all love there club.

Ok i know some times passion spills out into trouble but most times it doesnt its just a minority who are not passionate they just want a fight. If any of you yanks are ever in England or any european country and you can get to a game especially a Derby (two local rivals) I urge you to go. There is nothing better than having a good sing song and watching fully grown men and women go through ever emotion possible in the human body in just 90 minutes.

I have watched msl games and your fans just are not passionate wheres the chanting wheres the standing up for 90 minutes bouncing up and down supporting your team. Thats why Football is so great obviously you yanks are lacking passion!!!!!


O.K. hold it right there. We are not passionate about the MLS simply because we don't give a flying shit about it. American College Football games are some of the most loud events I have ever witnessed. In the fall, about every other weekend I go to a college football stadium that holds roughly 85,000 people. (For you guys in America, its Texas A&M. See avatar) The student section stands the entire game, and they yell as loud as possible on ever defensive play. The loudness in decibels easily reaches over 100 each game. And by the way, I drive about 3 and half hours there and back in 1 day (Thats over 300 miles) just to see the football game. If you don't call that passionate, then what do you?

[Quiet_Riot]

If you don't call that passionate, then what do you?


do you go to away games?

[zamphir66]

Something tells me that if America were a great soccer power, everyone would love it, but since we're not, it's "gay."

I'm sort of on the fence about soccer. I haven't watched enough to develop a strong interest yet. The things that I do like are the fact that it is literally a non-stop game, there's no pads or special equipment, and the field is rougly the size of Luxembourg. I also like that it is an international event: UK vs. Sweden, Italy vs. Japan, etc. etc. That will always trump a sport played strictly within national boundaries.

[EvaMonkey]

Something tells me that if America were a great soccer power, everyone would love it, but since we're not, it's "gay."

Thats it... thats it right there.

You're not the best so you don't care.

[Canty]

Why is there a World Series in Baseball when only American team play?

Whats's so good about Baseball? Honest question.

[CarlingUK]

I would wet myself laugthing if a group of american youtsh came to the world cup looking for trouble especially with the likes of England, Germany, Poland all in the world cup they would get beaten from pillar to post.

I aint promoting violence its just the idea that some one above posted saying that adding american to the already violent support wouldnt be a good thing maybe not but maybe there would be one or two less idiots in america.

[GrammarFocus]

I would wet myself laugthing if a group of american youtsh came to the world cup looking for trouble especially with the likes of England, Germany, Poland all in the world cup they would get beaten from pillar to post.

I aint promoting violence its just the idea that some one above posted saying that adding american to the already violent support wouldnt be a good thing maybe not but maybe there would be one or two less idiots in america.

Too true, too true...

[StanleyJenkins]

Is it just me or does it seem like every kid who sucked at any other sport played soccer growing up?

[GrammarFocus]

Is it just me or does it seem like every kid who sucked at any other sport played soccer growing up?

Cheap shot...


Logic would have it that you play the sport you're best at though?

[Quiet_Riot]

Is it just me or does it seem like every kid who sucked at any other sport played soccer growing up?


Actually, over here, if you "sucked" at football, you play rounders with the girls.

[Dr_PH1L]

calm down forum bitch mom, soccer really hasnt come to america, there are no major stadiums and have you ever heard someone say " Hey i'm going to a soccer game". There are already riots when someone looses a soccer game in a world cup, so how do you think adding the U.S. in the mix would help? Dont know if you play video games but a lot of people hate America on there.

There are major stadiums idiot. The MLS has stadiums all across the USA. Also, I can't even count all the times people have told me they were going to a soccer game. You must be a shut-in or something?

[Pfeife]

Is it just me or does it seem like every kid who sucked at any other sport played soccer growing up?

I think only those who are not fat enough for American Football or baseball play football.

[EvaMonkey]

Is it just me or does it seem like every kid who sucked at any other sport played soccer growing up?

Sooo... everyone else in the world sucks at sport?

[Nick is cool]

I think only those who are not fat enough for American Football or baseball play football.

Aside from powerlifting american football is played by the strongest and aside from track the fastest athletes in the world, im sure they are all fat. :rolleyes:

[James Bond 007]

Actually, over here, if you "sucked" at football, you play rounders with the girls.
Which in American is called baseball.

[j.elohim]

Which in American is called baseball.

How true. I wonder if lefties are as prized in baseball as they were in rounders. If primary school p.e taught me anything it's that a lefty will fuck you over at rounders. Rounders was shit but we had to play it, so I always just hit it outta the school (school was tiny and right by a road) so I could go for lunch quicker, as kids weren't allowed to go to get it so the teacher would have to do it and thus ended the game...then play jumpers for goalposts footie with a super hard netball which if it hit you would knock you out. (our school was poor) There was also one kid who was so bad at football he reffed our matches. He red carded me every game for about 2 years, not once did I leave the field. If such things had been known at the time he'd have been "Dicaniowned." Man I was shit hot in defence those days, one of the proudest moments of my life was playing for my highschool in first year and putting some kid on a stretcher in tears, the little fucker tried to barge me of the ball, needless to say the next time he got the ball he regretted those step overs :D

[EvaMonkey]

I was the fat kid in school... guess where I was put.

[GrammarFocus]

I was the fat kid in school... guess where I was put.

The bench? :)

[James Bond 007]

Fat camp???

[Sherlock]

I was the fat kid in school... guess where I was put.
As the goalkeeper. Fat kids make great goalies. The wider the better.
And you dont have to move much so everybody wins.

[JuliaAguilar]

I was the fat kid in school... guess where I was put.

You were like Bobby on King of the Hill, and you became the towel boy.

[Henkie]

As the goalkeeper. Fat kids make great goalies. The wider the better.
And you dont have to move much so everybody wins.
This reminds me of a comedian, telling about his youth: "Well, to be honest, I never was too good at sports, I always had to be the goalkeeper... of the dartsteam.

[Pfeife]

Aside from powerlifting american football is played by the strongest and aside from track the fastest athletes in the world, im sure they are all fat. :rolleyes:

http://www.pleziersite.com/sport/american_football.jpg
Me too.

[JuliaAguilar]

Okay, I'm a soccer fan, but I have to defend American football, too. Naturally that picture isn't depicting someone on a professional league.

Why can't you guys just quit arguing about it, all right? Both sports require some degree of athleticism in order to compete, or no one would call them sports. American football requires a lot of upper body strength, agility, and speed, and football requires a lot of speed, agility, lower body strength, and cardiovascular fitness. Nowhere am I saying that either one is more hardcore than the other, just that both of them require a high level of fitness and conditioning and that both can be entertaining, depending on what your tastes are.

[Pfeife]

Okay, I'm a soccer fan, but I have to defend American football, too. Naturally that picture isn't depicting someone on a professional league.

Why can't you guys just quit arguing about it, all right? Both sports require some degree of athleticism in order to compete, or no one would call them sports. American football requires a lot of upper body strength, agility, and speed, and football requires a lot of speed, agility, lower body strength, and cardiovascular fitness. Nowhere am I saying that either one is more hardcore than the other, just that both of them require a high level of fitness and conditioning and that both can be entertaining, depending on what your tastes are.

I was just kidding ;)
I know that both sports require a lot of skill, but I am convinced that overweight people have a higher chance of being succesful at American football than at football.
Agree?

[Nick is cool]

http://www.pleziersite.com/sport/american_football.jpg
Me too.

Omg you got a picture of a fat guy playing football!!!! What are the odds of someone over weight actually playing football!?!?! First of all your retarded if you think because someone has a picture of someone fat playing football then all of them are fat. At the highschool level you can be any body form and play. But no nfl players are 'fat' the lineman are big but its mostly muscle.

[StanleyJenkins]

lol, I didn't mean to start all of this rukus.

[Pfeife]

Omg you got a picture of a fat guy playing football!!!! What are the odds of someone over weight actually playing football!?!?! First of all your retarded if you think because someone has a picture of someone fat playing football then all of them are fat. At the highschool level you can be any body form and play. But no nfl players are 'fat' the lineman are big but its mostly muscle.

:lol: yer, mostly.

[Kyuu]

Honestly, I am not trying to piss someone off, but what's so great about a sport where goalies see a shot every 20 minutes and see roughly five shots on goal a game?

Simple. It is a sport that even poor countries can afford to play.

I know that both sports require a lot of skill, but I am convinced that overweight people have a higher chance of being succesful at American football than at football.

Yea. Those linemen positions require big bodies - to act as battering rams. However, fat people with weak muscles won't be of much use to anyone.

As for soccer, even the goalie positions require mobile players.

What are the odds of someone over weight actually playing football!?!?!

None!

[josh_moore1]

soccer is very boring

[Sherlock]

soccer is very boring
Prove it.

If your going to make a statement like that please have something to back it up.

[george2468]

see with soccer it all depends where ur from or your backgrounds. im from greece(my background) but born in canada.because canada and america are so prone to not knowing about european ethics and entertainment they do not understand how important and interesting soccer really is. for example in greece if u dont watch soccer ur a pussy bbecause in greece everybody is used to being a soccer fan. but here in america/canada they think the exact opposite because they are not used to soccer.trust me in greeceand probably alot of countries in europe when one club team loses to another club team from the same country.....hell brakes loose because everyone is soo interested and enthusiastic about the game and we are used to the soccer background. plus just because american/ canadian team arent that great in comparison to teams in europe/south america doesnt mean that you cant like the sport..... just watch the world cup cumming up and yull see how "boring" the game really is

[GrammarFocus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4581374.stm

Soccer is very boring?

[CheeseMonkeys]

Prove it.

If your going to make a statement like that please have something to back it up.
No one can proove that. It is only an Opinion...

[GrammarFocus]

I just did :)

[EnTrAnCeD]

I like watching guys like Rhonaldianadiandoan(SP?) Other then that its too slow paced.

[ftbllplr]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4581374.stm

Soccer is very boring?

That "study" is bogus. Dod you notice that the lower scoring the sport is, the higher it is on the "excitement" list it is? Its a lot easier to come back from a 1-0 or 2-0 deficite in soccer then it is to come back from a 21-10 or 28-14 deficite in football. And its from the BBC. I would expect them to be a little bias.

One is not better then the other. If you were brought up watching football, you will probably like football. Likewise with almost every sport. Its not like one side will ever persuade the other side that their sport is better, so lets stop all there stupid "football vs soccer" or "America vs everyone else" threads.

[zamphir66]

Its a lot easier to come back from a 1-0 or 2-0 deficite in soccer then it is to come back from a 21-10 or 28-14 deficite in football.
.

Technically, in American football a score of 28-14 would be 4 scores to 2 scores. So it's not really as 'high-scoring' as a lot of people make it out to be.

[James Bond 007]

Technically, in American football a score of 28-14 would be 4 scores to 2 scores. So it's not really as 'high-scoring' as a lot of people make it out to be.
Quoted for truth.

[GrammarFocus]

That "study" is bogus. Dod you notice that the lower scoring the sport is, the higher it is on the "excitement" list it is? Its a lot easier to come back from a 1-0 or 2-0 deficite in soccer then it is to come back from a 21-10 or 28-14 deficite in football. And its from the BBC. I would expect them to be a little bias.

One is not better then the other. If you were brought up watching football, you will probably like football. Likewise with almost every sport. Its not like one side will ever persuade the other side that their sport is better, so lets stop all there stupid "football vs soccer" or "America vs everyone else" threads.


Actually, it's American scientists who studied it. In New Mexico to be precise.

The BBC are the best news source in the world, I've not once read a bias/inaccurate article of theirs.

It's a bit of a generalisation to say it's easier to come back. For example, if the USA were playing Brazil, they could only be 3 goals down but they can still be getting raped. I don't understand this "MORE POINTS MORE ACTION" attitude to sport, so if your saying a team was awarded 10 points per goal the game would be more fun?

No, I never claimed any sport was better, merely that it is more exciting, which it is. And it wasn't a football vs. soccer thread, I was just posting this article, and you need to realise that not everyone is America bashing all the time...

[FAJA]

Technically, in American football a score of 28-14 would be 4 scores to 2 scores. So it's not really as 'high-scoring' as a lot of people make it out to be.

Actually, technically that's 8 scores to 4 because the extra point in American Football, while a simple formality really is still a seperate score which can be missed or gambled for 2 points which then might not work so the comparison doesn't work.

Also, if you really want to be picky the 28 points could theoretically consist of anything for 8 scores (taking into account extra points) to 14 scores (safeties, which I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong are worth 2 points, I know that's not too likely). Really you've oversimplified it too much, the scoring can't be compared because there's only one method of scoring in Football and 5 in American Football (touchdown(6), extra point(1), 2 point conversion(2), Field goal(3) and safety(2))

[MrDeliquent85]

Actually, technically that's 8 scores to 4 because the extra point in American Football, while a simple formality really is still a seperate score which can be missed or gambled for 2 points which then might not work so the comparison doesn't work.

Also, if you really want to be picky the 28 points could theoretically consist of anything for 8 scores (taking into account extra points) to 14 scores (safeties, which I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong are worth 2 points, I know that's not too likely). Really you've oversimplified it too much, the scoring can't be compared because there's only one method of scoring in Football and 5 in American Football (touchdown(6), extra point(1), 2 point conversion(2), Field goal(3) and safety(2))

I'm sure that if football(soccer) teams got a penalty for every goal they scored then the scores would be higher. Correct me but conversions and extra points are basically extras for scoring a touch down. So Touchdowns can lead to a possible 7 points (How often are safeties scored ?). Of course the scoring in the two sports cant be compared, thats what we're saying and If you have more than one way of scoring, surely your going to score more.

[FAJA]

Correct me but conversions and extra points are basically extras for scoring a touch down. So Touchdowns can lead to a possible 7 points (How often are safeties scored ?).

Yes, but they are still technically different scores because they are not guaranteed points. I havn't got a clue how often safeties are scored, i'm sire someone who's more familiar with the sport can tell you.

Of course the scoring in the two sports cant be compared, thats what we're saying and If you have more than one way of scoring, surely your going to score more.

I was responding to this
Technically, in American football a score of 28-14 would be 4 scores to 2 scores. So it's not really as 'high-scoring' as a lot of people make it out to be.

I may have possibly misinterpreted what he was trying to say, but I seems a lot like a comparision to me. I was merely pointing out that "technically" what he was saying was inaccurate.

[porfignewton77]

Although I know most of you Americans here are too ignorant to listen to and think about what I have to say about soccer, but I'm going to give it a shot again anyway.

The game ends two hours after kickoff, and the ball is in play for an hour and a half of that. In football, the game is 3 and 1/2 hours from kickoff to final whistle, and the ball is in play for what, 10 minutes? Soccer is a player's game, not a coach's. You can't call timeouts and strategize in the middle of the game. You don't call plays every time you have posession of the ball. It's a game of intelligence and quick reactions on the field.

That stat you said Stanley was below average, for shots on goal. That number doesn't even compare to the total number of shots, and that number doesn't compare to the number of chances. Listen you peice of shit pussy commy, Soccer is for girls not guys who ass rape each other! Zing bitch

[Henkie]

You know how a lot of people all over the globe think Americans are arrogant, ignorant, rude, self centered and that they have no selfperspective? I wouldn't know why, but atleast there's you to contradict that cognition, right?