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2y4life
12-20-2005, 03:17 AM
Yes, I said it. Favre should do what is best for the Packers and that is retire or backup Rodgers. He's done all he can do and now all he does is throw picks. His 2 picks today were all his fault. He overthrew them both. Favre is by far the most overrated athlete alive today bar none. He was great about 3 year ago but since then, it's been downhill for him. I hope he retires now and not hang on and try to go out like Elway cause it's not happening. He should just let Rodgers start from now because their season is over already. I remember Mike Sherman saying that "Once the we don't have a chance to make it into the playoffs, Rodgers will start." That means that Rodgers shoulda started the last 3 games. But no, Favre wants to increase his streak of starts. He should think of the Packers future and let Rodgers get a feel to the NFL in a real game by letting him start and finish the game. That's my opinion and feel free to express your thoughts on Favre.

wils0646
12-20-2005, 04:46 AM
Where to start...

Favre is by far the most overrated athlete alive today bar none. He was great about 3 year ago but since then, it's been downhill for him.

Right, downhill...

2003 - 3361 yds passing, 32 TDs, 21 INTs, 65.4 pct., 90.2 rating
2004 - 4088 yds passing, 30 TDs, 17 INTs, 64.1 pct., 92.4 rating

This year is his worst year by far. I agree, he's lost some game mentally, but physically he's still there.

I remember Mike Sherman saying that "Once the we don't have a chance to make it into the playoffs, Rodgers will start." That means that Rodgers shoulda started the last 3 games.

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. He's never said that. You made it up.

But no, Favre wants to increase his streak of starts.

Yep, Favre is starting just because of that :rolleyes:. He's always been about records, never passionate about the game.


In conclusion, I think that Favre is just worn out mentally and is forcing throws so badly, that he should get yelled at. Sherman seems to not have the balls to do this. Favre has lost games for us just from his careless throws. I am angry about it and some Packer fans are still dilusional to not blame the losses on Brett.

I want him to return next season to prove everyone wrong and me wrong that he hasn't lost anything mentally and still can play very well.

Kyuu
12-20-2005, 04:52 AM
This year is his worst year by far. I agree, he's lost some game mentally, but physically he's still there.

Then try a completely depleted offense - that virtually has nothing left. If I were Favre, I'd give it just one last year -- when everyone's back.

Then, I'll be more satisfied when the Bears beat 'em up when the Pack is in a better shape than they are now.

But no, Favre wants to increase his streak of starts.

If Peyton Manning keeps it up (and doesn't get hurt), he'll be able to chase down Favre in that department.

LegendaryU2K
12-20-2005, 07:06 AM
Ok dude is having a bad year, so what. Every QB does that once in a while, no big deal.

jn_powell
12-20-2005, 08:37 AM
The bottom line is that you have a better chance of winning with him at the helm. He is out there just being Brett Favre and trying to make plays. It is not his fault that everyone with any talent on his offense is injured.

Biological_Dad
12-20-2005, 10:15 AM
As much as i hate Favre, or should i say the ESPN radio guys that praise him all the time, Favre this and Favre that, blah blah blah, i think anyone that's unbiased and has some football knowledge knows it's not his fault, it's just a depleted team.

No running back, no o-line, no solid recieving core. More notable is the lack of an O-line, i watched the game a bit yesterday and as soon as the ball was snapped, there was a black sea all over Favre.

One man can't do it all.

JX252
12-20-2005, 11:37 AM
You're right Bio, he's trying too hard to do everything at once, and it's just not working out. He's lost so many starters this year, and the unit he has around him isn't stepping up to do their part on offense. I watched some of that game last night, and it seemed so uncharacteristic of him to continually try to force passes when he knows damn well that his receiver is going to struggle to get it. I really respect Favre though because he's just a class act; I've rarely heard him talk crap about his team, and when he has, it's been completely justified. There are other quarterbacks in this league who would have stepped down and quit when their offensive line fell apart, but Favre won't do it.

I'd like to see him come back for one more year, just because I know that when he's healthy, and his team is healthy, he's one of the most exciting quarterbacks to watch. I read an article on MSNBC that said he should pack it up and move to another team, one that's a contender, to take another run at the Super Bowl. There's no way he'll do this, because it would taint his reputation too much as a lifelong Packer.

jn_powell
12-20-2005, 11:51 AM
it seemed so uncharacteristic of him to continually try to force passes when he knows damn well that his receiver is going to struggle to get it.
Actually that seems very characteristic of Favre. He is known for taking risks and throwing into coverage, as he has done it his entire career. The problem is that the recievers he is throwing to this year cannot go up and win the battles like Sterling Sharpe and Javon Walker.

JMac453
12-20-2005, 02:38 PM
As much as i hate Favre, or should i say the ESPN radio guys that praise him all the time, Favre this and Favre that, blah blah blah, i think anyone that's unbiased and has some football knowledge knows it's not his fault, it's just a depleted team.

No running back, no o-line, no solid recieving core. More notable is the lack of an O-line, i watched the game a bit yesterday and as soon as the ball was snapped, there was a black sea all over Favre.

One man can't do it all.

I agree with this completely...The Packers have been decimated with injuries...they are on what, their 6th string RB? Plus, Favre has no one to throw to. I know they used to have an O-line, are all of them injured, too? Their defense just isn't that good either...losing Darren Sharper has hurt them a lot.

Bio is right...One man can't do it all.

On a side note, GO BRONCOS!!!

MalYoung
12-20-2005, 03:43 PM
I still feel he needs to retire. The Packers actually kind of need him to do it so they can rebuild. Since the Bears game, Favre just doesn't even look like Favre anymore. It looks like he is hurting badly every game since.

Kyuu
12-20-2005, 04:23 PM
I was listening to the Dan Patrick show today (ESPN radio). One thing that was pointed out -- Favre hasn't said anything as to what he's doing next year. With 2 games left in the season, it should be time for him to announce what he's gonna do next year.

MusicIsDead
12-20-2005, 04:29 PM
On a side note, GO BRONCOS!!!
Al davis will be sending you girls an early christmas present this year. Take last years snow game as an example:) .
Also, I'd take farve over kerry collins any day of the week.

Blue Lightening
12-20-2005, 04:51 PM
i think he should stay...he may be having a terrible year but kyle boller has terrible years every year. Favre is still the best player on the packers team and from the packers point of view, they could do a hell of a lot worse then Favre at QB.

ego74
12-20-2005, 05:20 PM
As far as I know, Favre hasn't made up his mind about whether he's coming back in 2006 or not. The Packers are doing the right thing and letting Favre do as he pleases; he's been "the man" there for nearly 15 years.

It was obvious by watching Rodgers last night that he's not ready to start (not to mention that GB has no offensive weapons right now due to injury)

Nick is cool
12-20-2005, 06:43 PM
Favre has been playing like shit this whole year (except for a few games, ex. saints) i know its not entirely his fault because he doesnt have much talent to surround him but still.. he threw some interceptions last night that werent even close to a reciever. And he should've had 2 more by ed reed that were dropped.

MalYoung
12-20-2005, 07:38 PM
One thing I have to bring up. Favre in his prime didn't even need great recievers. It didn't matter if his whole team was injured. He'd still pull out a victory. Now, he needs players around him, which is a sign that he needs to go.

Biological_Dad
12-20-2005, 08:19 PM
Favre has been playing like shit this whole year (except for a few games, ex. saints) i know its not entirely his fault because he doesnt have much talent to surround him but still.. he threw some interceptions last night that werent even close to a reciever. And he should've had 2 more by ed reed that were dropped.

You rather he take big hits? Or maybe hand the ball off for a .5 yard gain?

One thing I have to bring up. Favre in his prime didn't even need great recievers. It didn't matter if his whole team was injured. He'd still pull out a victory. Now, he needs players around him, which is a sign that he needs to go.

So you're saying a quarterback that needs decent players around him to succeed is a sign they need to go? Okay, let's fire.... every quartback in history? I don't know where you're going with this.

Nick is cool
12-20-2005, 08:43 PM
You rather he take big hits? Or maybe hand the ball off for a .5 yard gain?





Uh ya.. its better than giving the ball away..

jason
12-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Favre wont be coming back next season...he was an outstanding qb and i have always hated the packers and i can admit he was a good qb, aaron rodgers was put in at the 4th quarter and he sucked ass... and having your starting quarterback getting crushed is not a good thing but either is throwing picks thats why favre needs to work on just throwing it away rather than always trying to make something happen resulting him in throwing a pick and getting crushed on the play

1iNcHWoNDeR
12-20-2005, 10:06 PM
I think he has been great. Farve has just had a bad year. Next year he will have a good season, then it will all be downhill from there.

JX252
12-20-2005, 11:36 PM
Uh ya.. its better than giving the ball away..

So letting him get hit repeatedly is a smarter move than throwing an interception? Favre isn't the youngest quarterback in the league you know, and if he continues to get pounded into the turf, he's going to get seriously hurt. At least if he throws a pick, he can always hope that his defense can make a stand and get the ball back for him. It might be hard to deal with temporarily, but it's better than having your star quarterback out for the season because he doesn't want to throw into triple coverage, so he holds the ball for too long and gets smacked around like a rag doll.

Comico
12-21-2005, 05:34 AM
He's gotta play one more year, this is no way to end his long and until now marvelous career. After the years he's spent faithfully guiding the Packers and being their real symbol, they owe one more year to him, a year to prove he still has some talent within him. He needs to end his career on a positive note, not on the worst year of it.

Blue Lightening
12-21-2005, 09:54 AM
So letting him get hit repeatedly is a smarter move than throwing an interception? Favre isn't the youngest quarterback in the league you know, and if he continues to get pounded into the turf, he's going to get seriously hurt. At least if he throws a pick, he can always hope that his defense can make a stand and get the ball back for him. It might be hard to deal with temporarily, but it's better than having your star quarterback out for the season because he doesn't want to throw into triple coverage, so he holds the ball for too long and gets smacked around like a rag doll.

like Culpepper...:banghead:

navid
12-21-2005, 07:54 PM
Theres a fine line between somebody going out with that classic 'never quit mentality' then 'forced to retire'.

favre is wasting good opportunities for green bays future quarterbacks to play. and for what? because hes a legend in gb? well good! give him a statue. make that 4 statues! on mnf, i was just shocked to see him throw that ball! its as if he wanted it to be intercepted, no wonder he leads the leagues in that category..

elway went out with a nice bang, gretzky with a nice finish. mario and favre are just being annoying and greedy and this is ridiculous

well thats what i think atleast.

MalYoung
12-21-2005, 08:05 PM
Favre isn't greedy, its just that he loves the game too much to leave right now.

Kyuu
12-21-2005, 08:33 PM
Favre isn't greedy, its just that he loves the game too much to leave right now.

Yea. He's one of those class acts who do not boost up his contract -- unlike most other fags out there.

navid
12-21-2005, 09:58 PM
^^ your saying if he was offered his position to a rookie or younger qb for the experience he would step down? no way. i call that greedy. its 'indirect greed'

wils0646
12-22-2005, 12:21 AM
^^ your saying if he was offered his position to a rookie or younger qb for the experience he would step down? no way. i call that greedy. its 'indirect greed'

He said his feelings wouldn't be hurt if they did. But Sherman doesn't want it to happen:

Quarterback Brett Favre said at his Wednesday press conference that he wouldn't base any decision about his future on the performance of the team over the remainder of the season. Favre didn't say whether he would need to see some hope for the Packers in order to return for another season. That said, Favre said he wouldn't be upset if the coaches decided to play Aaron Rodgers at quarterback at some point this season. "It's their decision," said Favre. "It won't hurt my feelings one way or the other."

Muzz
12-27-2005, 12:55 AM
no one complained until everyone around him got injured and he had no one to help him out

atreyu_2020
12-27-2005, 01:02 AM
no one complained until everyone around him got injured and he had no one to help him out

People injured dont have anything to do with Favre throwing to double and triple coverage every time he steps back.

MalYoung
12-27-2005, 02:18 AM
People injured dont have anything to do with Favre throwing to double and triple coverage every time he steps back.
Yep, the thing is, he has thrown 28? picks this year. Maybe 3 of them were the reciever dropping the ball into the defender. the rest were careless throws overthrowing the reciever by 15 yards into the safety. After two consecutive terrible games, it looks like he actually may leave.