Eminem is pissed.

[henrynewten]

His new album's been leaked online. Here's what he has to say on the matter:
http://tcorp.bei.t-online.de/haha/eminem%20-%20talking%20about%20stuff.mp3

[ColdReaper]

oh no whitey gunna bust a cap... but I really think that was kind of cool... eminem knows how the internet works...

[TexaSS]

i think that was when he released The Eminem Show a while back. They moved up the release date because of it

[Jay-88]

he just acts that way for his image

[livingfiction]

Oh my! 12 year old boys are stealing directly from Eminem now instead of stealing from their parents to buy his album?

[Rhino]

Eminem is lame. I'm not gonna say he is'nt a talented rapper, but his content is shit and his diehard fans are almost as retarded as Insane Clown Posse fans.

[Dozzi]

You mean the New Kids on the Block?

[ypsidan04]

If you can afford a computer, you can pay 16 bucks for a CD. Good man.

He's one of the few rappers who doesn't rap about partyin up in da club wit tha hoes wit da big asses. I don't wanna hear that shit on the radio. You can do that all you want, but keep it off the airwaves. He's the only rapper I can say I like. And he's also the only rapper who gets played on the Nu-Rock station I listen to all the time. Eminem being the only rapper who gets time on a Nu-Rock station should tell you something - that he has more respect than other rappers. Why? Cause his lyrics mean something. It's Nu-Rock and Eminem, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Deltron]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
He's one of the few rappers who doesn't rap about partyin up in da club wit tha hoes wit da big asses...

One of the few? Try checkin out almost every underground group if you want good stuff. Mainstream sucks. Eminem is ok, but I don't care for him much. Outkast is my only favorite mainstream group.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by Deltron
One of the few?

Okay, I'm generalizing. You know what I mean though - Nelly, Lil Jon, P Diddy, Chingy...

[ILUSH]

Originally posted by Rhino
Eminem is lame. I'm not gonna say he is'nt a talented rapper, but his content is shit and his diehard fans are almost as retarded as Insane Clown Posse fans.

So are you calling me a retarted?

ypsidan04, I share that opinion with you, he's one of those rappers who rapps about different things in life, and I can often relate. Plus he's funny as hell.

But I have to confess, I did download his music of the net :(

[brainkandy87]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
He's one of the few rappers who doesn't rap about partyin up in da club wit tha hoes wit da big asses. I don't wanna hear that shit on the radio.

Yeah, sex on the radio is wrong. A song about murder on the radio is right.

Sure, not all of his songs are "murder" songs, but that was sort of a hypocritical statement, don't ya think?

But, by all means, don't think.

[ILUSH]

Originally posted by brainkandy87
Yeah, sex on the radio is wrong. A song about murder on the radio is right.

Sure, not all of his songs are "murder" songs, but that was sort of a hypocritical statement, don't ya think?

But, by all means, don't think.

Damn, you made me think...I was trying to figure out what the hell u meant in your post. It was a kinda pointless post.

[brainkandy87]

Originally posted by ILUSH
Damn, you made me think...I was trying to figure out what the hell u meant in your post. It was a kinda pointless post.

Whenever I quote sid, it's usually just best to leave the post at that.

[EvaMonkey]

Originally posted by brainkandy87
Whenever I quote sid, it's usually just best to leave the post at that.

Im very sure that one of the signs of the apocalypse is a "Sid Quote" that you agree with :D

[brainkandy87]

Originally posted by Eva Monkey
Im very sure that one of the signs of the apocalypse is a "Sid Quote" that you agree with :D

If that happens, you had better sell that "Flying Pig" stock.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by ILUSH
he's one of those rappers who rapps about different things in life, and I can often relate. Plus he's funny as hell.

Funny and practical. Yes sir. :-).
Originally posted by brainkandy87
Yeah, sex on the radio is wrong. A song about murder on the radio is right.

Sure, not all of his songs are "murder" songs, but that was sort of a hypocritical statement, don't ya think?

I'm not saying it's wrong, not at all. It's just not what I like to hear on the radio personally.

I like the funny songs (The Real Slim Shady and My Band - D12) and the "I made it thru" songs (8 Mile, Lose Yourself, Sing for the Moment)

[Hatchetman321]

i can't stand eminem..i just don't see the point in his music..

[ILUSH]

i can't stand eminem..i just don't see the point in his music..

What kinda music do u c a point in?

[Hatchetman321]

well rock in particular but if you want a sort of hip hop rap artist i would say icp..though you might think im crazy cuz you might think that there are just all about violence and swearing..but like i said in another thread their music does have a meaning to if you listen close enough..all through their career theyve just tried to get their message across on their view of life and life after death

tell me what point does eminem get across to listeners?

[Captan Anarchy]

well me myself i hate that guy and all else that is rap how can u talk about the ghetto if ur living in a hugh ass house with evey1 in the world loving u
music should be free look at punk band we make a whole 5 bucks a show and rappers make a few million

[Hatchetman321]

and he still wants more and more exposure..it's sad to see so many people brainwashed from his ghetto nonsense, especially kids i kno 8 year olds that listen to his music..and he did live in the burbs once but his mom went into a downward spiral and ended up in 8 mile road..7 mile road is the real thugs streets

[Captan Anarchy]

i dont get why ppl like him

the only reson he talk about gay guy he is covering himself

[Hatchetman321]

ahh exactly what i think www.feminem.com is a good site to debate :D..i got by the same name

[Yeti Patrol]

I don't care for rap much but Eminem is one of the only decent rap artistis out there.....hell a few of his songs actually had meaning, (the few I heard) He's a decent guy, not like that other shit.

[ypsidan04]

Ok i'm not sure if you're saying these people are good or bad, but either way you are wrong.... Nelly is a pop singing bitch... P. Diddy doesnt write his on lyrics and couldnt "rap" his own christmas presents. Chingy is too new for me to be judging, but I already hate him. And LiL jon isnt a rapper, he is a producer and a Hype man.

They are bad because they have completely superficial lyrics.
Fuck buying music.... thats for idiots and people without computers.... Grow some hair on your nuts and steal a song!

The only songs I have or will "steal" are either 1) Songs I can't get in the local CD store or 2) Songs where the artist has given written permission for their fans to download. (The Origin album by Evanescence).

You all need to get off your ass, drive a few miles to a CD store, and support your artists.

[stevib]

Yall want a single say fuck dat!
fuck dat
FUCK DAT SHIT



OOORRRRAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i found Korns new video (http://media.fastclick.net/w/get.media?sid=6615&m=5&url=http%3A//www.korntv.com/video/Korn_YallWantASingle_EXPVidFull.ram) on the internet and it contains lots of information about the music industry and why it is shiet. I actually like the song but i still think korn are shit altogether.

But it shows what happened when they drove a few miles to a cd store. heh. I wonder how many of their own cds they destryod. Stupid bastards

[ypsidan04]

Yeah all except LiL Jon YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH



Fuck that. It's the simple fact that i'm not paying for something that I can get completly free without any chance of being caught.

@ Lil Jon: Exactly my point.

You tell that to the people who have been sued. They didn't think it could happen to them either. And even if you don't get caught, you're still breaking the law.

[brainkandy87]

You tell that to the people who have been sued. They didn't think it could happen to them either. And even if you don't get caught, you're still breaking the law.

And those people that have been sued use their ignorance to it's fullest, downloading tons of songs and leaving them in their shared folder. They deserved to be sued for being that fucking stupid.

If you don't get caught, yeah, it's still breaking the law. But, you're telling me you haven't done something in your little life that was illegal and you got away with it? Drinking underage, drugs, forgetting to rewind the tape before you returned it? Who cares if it's illegal. If a pop star can molest children and get away with it, why can't I download some fucking music? I apologize if I take a few dollars away from a millionaire, but I got to save that 12 bucks to pay for gas in my car.

If you want me to crack the Net Nanny, just give me a PM, sid.

[HomeyDePoo]

I hate Eminem. His lyrics are good but I don't like him.
I hate 50 Cent. I have many reasons, and they are so obvious I don't need to post them.
The only main stream rappers I DO like are Kanye West, Common, Talib Kweli, Jay Z, Tupac, Snoop's old stuff, Dre's old stuff, and some more.

who cares.

[TheRadPotato]

downloading music online:
there is a difference between

1. what i do. i hear about a band, don't know if i want to buy their album because i don't know what they sound like. i download a few songs, and if i like them much i'll buy the album. without the internet, i would probably never buy albums, so it is in fact getting them more business from me.

2. downloading entire albums and burning them onto cds either for yourself or to sell. sure, i can see how that's stealing.

[ypsidan04]

And those people that have been sued use their ignorance to it's fullest, downloading tons of songs and leaving them in their shared folder. They deserved to be sued for being that fucking stupid.
Yeah, that's right. Smart criminals don't get caught, or at least don't get caught for a long time.

But, you're telling me you haven't done something in your little life that was illegal and you got away with it?
I did some petty shoplifting once, but my parents busted me. And that was several years ago, so I blame it on youthful indiscretion.

Drinking underage
Yes, but in my own house and with my parents' permission. Nothing wrong with that.

If a pop star can molest children and get away with it
What do you mean he got away with it? He's in court or heading that way, isn't he?

I apologize if I take a few dollars away from a millionaire
If you really liked whoever's CD that is, you wouldn't mind them being a millionaire, and you would want to help them stay that way. It costs money to record an album. I sure don't think about how much money the artist has or doesn't have, and neither should anyone else. All that matters is that you like the music.
And sid jesus quit calling LiL Jon shitty... he is a fucking producer he makes the beats of the songs you hear him "hyping"

If I can use part of one of your quotes, even Dave Chapelle makes fun of Lil Jon.
1. what i do. i hear about a band, don't know if i want to buy their album because i don't know what they sound like. i download a few songs, and if i like them much i'll buy the album. without the internet, i would probably never buy albums, so it is in fact getting them more business from me.

Here's what I do:

I hear about a band, and want to find out what they sound like. So I do the following:

1. I go to Launchcast or Netscape Music and see if they have videos (Launch & Netscape) or songs (Netscape) that anyone can play for free on demand.

and/or

2. I go to either Borders or FYE and preview the album. Sure you can only hear 45 sec. clips of each song, but that's enough to get a feel for it.

[brainkandy87]

What do you mean he got away with it? He's in court or heading that way, isn't he?

May I refer you to the 1993 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html) case where the case was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money?

If you really liked whoever's CD that is, you wouldn't mind them being a millionaire, and you would want to help them stay that way. It costs money to record an album. I sure don't think about how much money the artist has or doesn't have, and neither should anyone else. All that matters is that you like the music.

I have bought 11 CD's in my entire life. 7 were free, I bought one, then got 3 more free. Not bad, 11 CD's for about 55 bucks, is it? Other than that, I could give a shit how much I like them. They're making enough money off of yuppie idiots like you.

even Dave Chapelle makes fun of Lil Jon.

Yes, if Dave Chapelle makes fun of it, everyone should. That was sarcastic, by the way.

[WhatTheFluck295]

Yeah, that's right. Smart criminals don't get caught, or at least don't get caught for a long time.


I did some petty shoplifting once, but my parents busted me. And that was several years ago, so I blame it on youthful indiscretion.


Yes, but in my own house and with my parents' permission. Nothing wrong with that.


What do you mean he got away with it? He's in court or heading that way, isn't he?


If you really liked whoever's CD that is, you wouldn't mind them being a millionaire, and you would want to help them stay that way. It costs money to record an album. I sure don't think about how much money the artist has or doesn't have, and neither should anyone else. All that matters is that you like the music.


If I can use part of one of your quotes, even Dave Chapelle makes fun of Lil Jon.


Here's what I do:

I hear about a band, and want to find out what they sound like. So I do the following:

1. I go to Launchcast or Netscape Music and see if they have videos (Launch & Netscape) or songs (Netscape) that anyone can play for free on demand.

and/or

2. I go to either Borders or FYE and preview the album. Sure you can only hear 45 sec. clips of each song, but that's enough to get a feel for it.

Oh jesus christ sid. Go give your bullshit to the hungry people at the soup kitchen...

[TheRadPotato]

I hear about a band, and want to find out what they sound like. So I do the following:

1. I go to Launchcast or Netscape Music and see if they have videos (Launch & Netscape) or songs (Netscape) that anyone can play for free on demand.

and/or

2. I go to either Borders or FYE and preview the album. Sure you can only hear 45 sec. clips of each song, but that's enough to get a feel for it.
sure, i'd preview the stuff at borders, if half of the things i wanted to buy were at borders. and i've never seen any kind of a preview option for more than about 50 select best selling albums, which i'm not interested in. but maybe your borders is different.

[BigMattTheHobo]

I am glad to see that you sid have so much money lying around that you can go spend it on shitty music whenever you please. Some of us don't have the money, but have the passion for music.

Anyways I will buy albums I know are good and are made by artists who deserve to be called artists: Miles Davis, Sublime, DMB, others with talent.

[ypsidan04]

sure, i'd preview the stuff at borders, if half of the things i wanted to buy were at borders. and i've never seen any kind of a preview option for more than about 50 select best selling albums, which i'm not interested in. but maybe your borders is different.

Yeah, one around here only lets you preview only about 50 select albums. But the other lets you check any one you want. It depends on the store.
I have bought 11 CD's in my entire life.

I've bought more than 11 CDs in the last year. Granted, only 2 or 3 came out of my own pocket (the rest were gifts), but they were all bought and paid for. And I don't regret any of them. The only thing I regret is paying $18.99 for a few of them, when I could have gotten them for $13.99 somewhere else. There's a certain good feeling you get from having a real authentic album from one of your favorite bands. You should try it sometime.

[droogsteve]

There's a certain good feeling you get from having a real authentic album from one of your favorite bands. You should try it sometime.
Yeah, getting robbed by a record company just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside....

I support my favorite bands by going to their shows.

[Hoovie]

i dont even think thats eminem...doesnt sound like something he would say

[brainkandy87]

I've bought more than 11 CDs in the last year. Granted, only 2 or 3 came out of my own pocket (the rest were gifts), but they were all bought and paid for. And I don't regret any of them. The only thing I regret is paying $18.99 for a few of them, when I could have gotten them for $13.99 somewhere else. There's a certain good feeling you get from having a real authentic album from one of your favorite bands. You should try it sometime.

Yes, nothing like one of those "authentic" albums. A three page piece of paper with a few pictures on it and a CD case...wow...nothing like that. I'm so ashamed I have missed out on wasting money...I bet that is a good feeling.

Like droog said, you want to support a band, go to their concert. That's where they deserve money...they earn it there.

[WhatTheFluck295]

The only thing I regret is paying $18.99 for a few of them, when I could have gotten them for $13.99 somewhere else. There's a certain good feeling you get from having a real authentic album from one of your favorite bands. You should try it sometime.

You know what's more regrettable? Paying $20 for songs that you gan fucking get for free with the click of a mouse. Dumbass.

[BigMattTheHobo]

If Miles was alive, I would gladly fork over hundreds to watch him play.

[ypsidan04]

I support my favorite bands by going to their shows.

I would too, if my favorite bands ever came around here! One did back in August, but I didn't have the motivation to go then as I do know.
i dont even think thats eminem...doesnt sound like something he would say

That sounds just like Eminem.
Is that code for Mommy wouldn't let you out past curfew?

Uhhhhhh,


NO. Just what I said. And even if I wanted to, I didn't really find out about it until it was too late.
You know what's more regrettable? Paying $20 for songs that you gan fucking get for free with the click of a mouse. Dumbass.

But 1) Thats not legal and 2) The band doesn't get a cent. You might see me as dumb, but I see you as a lazy cheapskate.

[brainkandy87]

I would too, if my favorite bands ever came around here! One did back in August, but I didn't have the motivation to go then as I do know.

Is that code for Mommy wouldn't let you out past curfew?

[WhatTheFluck295]

But 1) Thats not legal and 2) The band doesn't get a cent. You might see me as dumb, but I see you as a lazy cheapskate.

1) If people really gave a shit whether or not it's legal, the government would have done a hell of a lot more than sued a handfull of jackasses who shared music too much.

2) I could give a shit whether or not they make a cent. If someone has the audacity to charge me $30 for something that I could make with a $5 pack of CD-RWs, a CD burner and a permanent marker, they don't deserve a damn scent. Honestly, do they REALLY need a private jet with a bed in it?

[brainkandy87]

I am officially done with this argument with sid. It's obvious he'd rather spend his money on something he can get for free, than buy something that's really worth the money. Like a life.

[TheRadPotato]

There's a certain good feeling you get from having a real authentic album from one of your favorite bands. You should try it sometime.
oh, i agree with that. it's nice to have an original copy and the original cd all in the original artwork. it's more fun to collect and you can support the bands you like, that are probably struggling with money.
i do own authentic albums; in fact, they are all i own. i do not burn music. i burned a cd of songs by one band once, but went on to buy 4 of their cds so i don't see the harm at all. and last christmas all i asked for were certain cds, i got 6 or 7... plus money that i used to buy more.

i just don't want to spend my money on one of these albums if i can't own a few songs to see what it sounds like, first.

[WhatTheFluck295]

oh, i agree with that. it's nice to have an original copy and the original cd all in the original artwork. it's more fun to collect and you can support the bands you like, that are probably struggling with money.
i do own authentic albums; in fact, they are all i own. i do not burn music. i burned a cd of songs by one band once, but went on to buy 4 of their cds so i don't see the harm at all. and last christmas all i asked for were certain cds, i got 6 or 7... plus money that i used to buy more.

i just don't want to spend my money on one of these albums if i can't own a few songs to see what it sounds like, first.

Well what's the use of pissing money away when you already have access to the songs for free?

Having the shitty artwork that comes with the CD doesn't make it any better.

[TheRadPotato]

because, that's retarded. i can understand your view of "who needs a jet plane with a sofa?" but the bands i choose to support are nowhere near to that kind of wealth. if they make my favorite music, i want to support them and their future efforts. to just download it for free is selfish, and if everyone did that, my favorite bands wouldn't be able to continue... i think having the original album would be cooler when you dig it back up in 20 years and find the original album, than finding a burned cd.

i don't think downloading music is necessarily stealing, as before stated. i do think that downloading an entire album and burning it to a cd instead of buying the album is stealing. my honesty means more to me than 14 bucks, maybe it doesn't for you.

and tell me, what ever-so-important things do you buy with the money you save on cds? and to whoever said "buy more important things, a life for example." you can't buy a good life, that is just retarded.

[El Nacho]

i hate rap. its all about sex and pimps and stuff.

[REB GTA]

this is actually pretty interesting

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

[WhatTheFluck295]

and tell me, what ever-so-important things do you buy with the money you save on cds? and to whoever said "buy more important things, a life for example." you can't buy a good life, that is just retarded.

Eh, iduno...maybe pay some bills? Fill up your gas tank? Buy some new clothes? You know, things you CAN'T get for free.

I just don't see the point in spending $18.00 for the CD jacket and pretty art on the disc and $2 for the damn CD just so you can dig it up 10 years from now and say "Aaaw, I'm SO glad I blew my money on this! Looking at the pretty picture and the way it wraps around the disc was SO worth the twenty bucks!"

[TheRadPotato]

did you read my post at all? i didn't say i'd buy it JUST for the artwork and collectibility, most of the reason was to support the bands i like.
also, you're acting like every cd costs 20 bucks...
also, like i said, my honesty matters more to me than 15 bucks does. if a teacher accidently gives me too high of a score in a class, i will tell them, because again my honesty is more important than a couple of points.
you probably don't have the same opinions as me on that, but still why would you not want to support your favorite artists? if they're already so rich, they probably make crappy mainstream music and you should find littler guys to support because it's fun to help people with unappreciated talent.

[WhatTheFluck295]

if a teacher accidently gives me too high of a score in a class, i will tell them, because again my honesty is more important than a couple of points.


Wow. You are OFFICIALLY a dumbfuck. Most teachers don't even want you to report a mistake in grading that HELPS your grade because, well, it HELPS your grade. But you actually tell them when they screwed up and it HELPED your grade? No wonder you're stupid enough to pay for music...

[brainkandy87]

did you read my post at all? i didn't say i'd buy it JUST for the artwork and collectibility, most of the reason was to support the bands i like.
also, you're acting like every cd costs 20 bucks...
also, like i said, my honesty matters more to me than 15 bucks does. if a teacher accidently gives me too high of a score in a class, i will tell them, because again my honesty is more important than a couple of points.
you probably don't have the same opinions as me on that, but still why would you not want to support your favorite artists? if they're already so rich, they probably make crappy mainstream music and you should find littler guys to support because it's fun to help people with unappreciated talent.

I think sid has a new username.

[TheRadPotato]

Wow. You are OFFICIALLY a dumbfuck. Most teachers don't even want you to report a mistake in grading that HELPS your grade because, well, it HELPS your grade. But you actually tell them when they screwed up and it HELPED your grade? No wonder you're stupid enough to pay for music...
thanks for the insults. i never said you had to agree with me. my teachers aren't out to get me, they don't try to give me less points or something...
all i can say is that honesty is very important to me, and i'm not going to be honest only if it benefits me; that isn't honesty at all. i am not living my life for myself and that sets a drastic difference in our viewpoints from the start.


you will find that i am not "sid," but it doesn't bother me if you think that.

[marshalldylan10]

All of eminems songs are about making fun of homosexuals, growing up in the hood, and killing people.

[ILUSH]

All of eminems songs are about making fun of homosexuals, growing up in the hood, and killing people.

Not completly true. That's the big picture they want you to see, yes he does rap about it sometimes, but if you listend to his music alot you'd understand more, plus what you said it's less then half what he raps about. He raps about love, his friends, problems...ect.

[Coach_lmc]

Eminem sucks ass so nothing else really matters...


(starts humming stairway to heaven)

Long Live Rock!!!

hehe opinion of course

[Hoovie]

again, i dont think this is eminem...i know people who can do impressions of him...obviously not identical but maybe thats why its on the phone, so it distorts his voice...maybe im wrong...where did the person who start the thread get this from??