Everyone Says New Music Is Trash But....

[IsItLiquidOrICE]

What about the artists out there that have talent? Who are the promising artists that could carry our music generation away from the trashy music that it has been infested with?

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I'll throw some names out there, you guys do the same.

-Jack Johnson
-Kanye West
-Damien Marley
-John Mayer
-Matisyahu
-Dave Mathews
-Dangermouse

[Just Spurplin]

John Legend

[islamabub]

this decade sucks and will continue to suck because everything of intrest has already been done is the 80's and 90's.( kidda like the 70's but no sex =C) what i want to see is what 2010's are gonna be like

[SevenTwoOffSuit]

We follow the black life style. More and more white people wanna become BLACK. Its sad, rap isnt even music.

We gotta go back to they we were in the 70s.

[/Tilt/]

-Matisyahu
Fuck you. And don't give me that "Even though he's Hasidic, it's still good music." bullshit. The reggae itself is mediocre.

[ypsidan04]

Audioslave & Velvet Revolver

[IsItLiquidOrICE]

Fuck you. And don't give me that "Even though he's Hasidic, it's still good music." bullshit. The reggae itself is mediocre.

I'm gonna assume Hasidic means Jewish since he dresses as a rabi but that wasn't really a factor.

But yeah, fuck me, for aving an opinion. Dick.

[wrathchild]

At least Iron Maiden are still making good music, to save us from the shite.

[Gnomad]

Whatever the hell you want to listen to.

That's the name I'm throwing in the hat. Enjoy.

[DerekSmalls]

At least Iron Maiden are still making good music, to save us from the shite.
The truth.

But there are so many new bands out there that are doing good music, you just have to know where to look.

[/Tilt/]

I'm gonna assume Hasidic means Jewish since he dresses as a rabi but that wasn't really a factor.
He doesn't dress like a rabbi, he dresses like a Hasidic Jew, because that's what he is. Do you even know what a Hasidic Jew is? I bet you don't even get the gimic. Sorry you like shitty music, dick.

[Baneofevil3]

Well, actually, most of the music I listen to is modern music. There's...

Sigur Rós
Built to Spill
TV on the Radio
Modest Mouse (if their next album is less poppy than their most recent)
The Arcade Fire
Sufjan Stevens
Radiohead
Iron & Wine
The Decemberists
Beck
Bloc Party
Explosions in the Sky
The Flaming Lips
Belle & Sebastian
Broken Social Scene
Pavement
Doves
My Morning Jacket

And, to a lesser extent, Stereophonics and The Shins.

[BaxterII]

^ Bloc Party sucks

[Baneofevil3]

I have to disagree. Though they make more simple and back-to-the-basics kind of rock, the music is still unique and works well (for the most part). I'm not saying that all of their songs are good, but the majority of them have more originality than anything else you'll hear on the radio (not classic rock stations) today. In fact, some of their songs are executed perfectly, such as Positive Tension and Banquet. The vocals match the music brilliantly, and the band actually puts effort and confidence into their music, making it all the better.

Retort.

[chronotub]

THeir are lots of good bands out at the moment
The Knife and Ladytron are 2 acts that I have been playing a lot

[adam_toker]

The Arcade Fire sucks a Jirniy Huy (If you russian you'll know what i mean)

[Baneofevil3]

Sorry to sound redundant, but The Arcade Fire puts forth such originality that I can't believe they suck. They convey a lot of emotions in their music, something that doesn't happen a lot in music anymore. I can understand someone not liking Bloc Party, because they have a rather ridiculous name, and the music is definitely not for everyone, but The Arcade Fire seems relatively accessible and considering the variety of instruments throughout the music, it seems unlikely that they suck.

[adam_toker]

naw they just suck... and they're really really stuck up too.

[anonymous04]

Big Punisher
Juvenile
The Prodigy
Styles of Beyond
Ladytron

[Gnomad]

I'll have to second the Arcade Fire sucking... but if you like it, cool, enjoy.

[camjoe87]

Well, actually, most of the music I listen to is modern music. There's...

Sigur Rós
Built to Spill
TV on the Radio
Modest Mouse (if their next album is less poppy than their most recent)
The Arcade Fire
Sufjan Stevens
Radiohead
Iron & Wine
The Decemberists
Beck
Bloc Party
Explosions in the Sky
The Flaming Lips
Belle & Sebastian
Broken Social Scene
Pavement
Doves
My Morning Jacket

And, to a lesser extent, Stereophonics and The Shins.
I agree with everything you have listed.. Even though I don't even like some of those genres. Those are some talented bands up there.

I'll add Porcupine Tree to the list. They are a great modern pychedelic/Progressive rock band.

[Baneofevil3]

I agree with everything you have listed.. Even though I don't even like some of those genres. Those are some talented bands up there.

I thank you sincerely that you're not as ignorant as some of the other members of this board.

You don't have to like a band for them to be good. Remember that; people will like you more.

[wodahS]

Honestly, most artists sucks right now, but, there's always more to discover from the past decade. We do not HAVE to only pick new artists, althought you are FORCED to give them a try, I, personaly, randomly buy cds from older artists.

My 2 cents.

[Gnomad]

I thank you sincerely that you're not as ignorant as some of the other members of this board.

You don't have to like a band for them to be good. Remember that; people will like you more.

Good is a bit subjective. Talented, maybe not so much, but what I consider good is definitely different than what others might suggest.

Taste is always going to be subjective, and someone is always going to say something sucks. They may be ignorant in their choice of words, but that ignorance doesn't apply to their taste in music. It would be ignorant to assume you know what's better for them.

So yeah, it really depends on what a person likes. I wouldn't say Arcade Fire is talentless, but are they good? Not in my opinion. You're right about ignorance applying to refusal of accepting certain talents though... except ICP.

[Baneofevil3]

Well, even though I don't agree with you, I thank you for actually saying something intelligent, instead of just saying that I suck or the music I listen to sucks.

[Just Spurplin]

Honestly, most artists sucks right now, but, there's always more to discover from the past decade.

There are just as many good artists out there now as there have ever been. People like you just arent willing to look for them. Twenty years ago people were saying the exact same thing as you are, and twenty before that and before that. The past will always look better then the present because we already know the past. The present/future we are unsure of, so people will constantly label it as shit because they are afraid of finding something they might not like.

[wodahS]

There are just as many good artists out there now as there have ever been. People like you just arent willing to look for them. Twenty years ago people were saying the exact same thing as you are, and twenty before that and before that. The past will always look better then the present because we already know the past. The present/future we are unsure of, so people will constantly label it as shit because they are afraid of finding something they might not like.

Oh, I do like some, but still, I do beleive that by buying older cds you definitly have more chance to hit something better. And then, even the artists that I like that are still singing, were way better back then.

As many as twenty years ago... I do not agree with. Good artists today are rarely given a chance.

[reggie jax]

I have to agree that Bloc Party sucks. Along with most new bands that are part of that whole "indie" movement.

[TheGrimKreeper]

I have to agree that Bloc Party sucks. Along with most new bands that are part of that whole "indie" movement.
My retort to that would be (me being of like mind with Baneofevil3) to say the same as you have said, only replacing indie with rap. It's just a difference of opinions. I think rap is horrible muic leading nowhere, and apparently that's how you feel about indie. Does that make either of us right? Hardly so.

[pill popper]

The Darkness and Jet were pretty good, then i never heard from them again.

[chronotub]

Thier is just as much good music today as their has ever been, You might not like the styles that are around now but that doesn't make them any worse.
And lets not forget that the crap out today is in your face all the time, the crap from the 70s has been forgoten about

[reggie jax]

My retort to that would be (me being of like mind with Baneofevil3) to say the same as you have said, only replacing indie with rap. It's just a difference of opinions. I think rap is horrible muic leading nowhere, and apparently that's how you feel about indie. Does that make either of us right? Hardly so.That's not how I feel about indie. That's how I feel about bullshit bands like Bloc Party that pass as indie in the mainstream these days. Hence why I put the " " around indie.

You think rap sucks.. good for you. What is that a bargaining tool? "I think your music sucks too so let's call a truce?"

[TheGrimKreeper]

You think rap sucks.. good for you.
Well, that was kind of my point to you with what you said. I was saying that just because you say they suck doesn't mean they suck; you can't say something like that as if it's factual. The way you said it implied such.

The best you can do is offer logical reasons as to why a band is or isn't good, as Bane did. Saying they suck accomplishes nothing.

[reggie jax]

Not to be rude but don't you think you're being a bit nit picky? I went back and read my post just to check if maybe I implied it was factual, and I don't see how you could say that. I said "I have to agree Bloc Party sucks." If it was factual then it wouldn't be a matter of agreeing would it? You wouldn't say "Yes I have to agree that 2 + 2 = 4."

As far as giving logical reasons they suck.. I don't understand how you could really link musical taste and logic to be honest. I don't like them because I believe their music sounds like generic electro shit. Is that not a logical enough reason to dislike them?

I think what's really going on is that I agreed with whoever said Bloc Party sucks and that offended you because you like Bloc Party. You wanna write me an essay on why they're actually groundbreaking and glorious or why rap is shit then go ahead, I won't stop your venting process. But just sitting here and disecting the way and the reasons that I insult a band is pointless, to say the least.

But you're right. I added nothing by saying they suck. That's cause I wasn't trying to be meaningful or insightful. That's MY venting process. So let's just agree that my post, and all of our posts debating my post, have been pointless and officially no longer matter. Deal?

[GiveItAway]

-Jack Johnson
-Kanye West
-Damien Marley
-John Mayer
-Matisyahu
-Dave Mathews
-Dangermouse

I see nothing good, each one of these people is a rehash of something thats been done a thousand times. And don't say its all been done because it hasn't and it never will be.

[FsB_BeN]

LOL @ all the bitter old people.

[TheGrimKreeper]

Not to be rude but don't you think you're being a bit nit picky? I went back and read my post just to check if maybe I implied it was factual, and I don't see how you could say that. I said "I have to agree Bloc Party sucks." If it was factual then it wouldn't be a matter of agreeing would it? You wouldn't say "Yes I have to agree that 2 + 2 = 4."

As far as giving logical reasons they suck.. I don't understand how you could really link musical taste and logic to be honest. I don't like them because I believe their music sounds like generic electro shit. Is that not a logical enough reason to dislike them?

I think what's really going on is that I agreed with whoever said Bloc Party sucks and that offended you because you like Bloc Party. You wanna write me an essay on why they're actually groundbreaking and glorious or why rap is shit then go ahead, I won't stop your venting process. But just sitting here and disecting the way and the reasons that I insult a band is pointless, to say the least.

But you're right. I added nothing by saying they suck. That's cause I wasn't trying to be meaningful or insightful. That's MY venting process. So let's just agree that my post, and all of our posts debating my post, have been pointless and officially no longer matter. Deal?
Sorry, you do have valid points. It just annoys me that nearly all that people have to offer to anything is "it sucks". That's really all that drew me to comment in the first place. My comment may as well have been directed to you as to all the other people on this thread, or any thread for that matter, that just say "it sucks" for seemingly no reason. At the very least say, "I don't like them", or, "I think they suck." Just saying "they suck" gives off a somewhat pompous air with you and or taste in music, and implies that they produce no good music by anyone's standards and have no skill. Obviously, someone will disagree with that. And what I ment as far as logical reasons is to say just why you don't like them, what you find disagreeable about the music, which you pointed out.

I guess what I'm saying is that just saying, "they suck," makes you seem like a closed-minded dick, as oppose to saying why you don't like them, which generally settles much better with people. That, and that reasoning can actually contribute something to a conversation.

[IsItLiquidOrICE]

I see nothing good, each one of these people is a rehash of something thats been done a thousand times. And don't say its all been done because it hasn't and it never will be.

Well if they are a "rehash" of someone else, do you mind telling me who? I can see that they may be INFLUENCED by older artists, but I highly doubt they just copied their exact formula.

But go on and explain what you mean.

[reggie jax]

I guess what I'm saying is that just saying, "they suck," makes you seem like a closed-minded dick, as oppose to saying why you don't like them, which generally settles much better with people. That, and that reasoning can actually contribute something to a conversation.Ah, but I AM a closed-minded dick. No use in running from my true self.

[KEALYBOY]

That's not how I feel about indie. That's how I feel about bullshit bands like Bloc Party that pass as indie in the mainstream these days. Hence why I put the " " around indie.

Agreed, Bloc Party are fucking shite and typical of the current wave of overhyped UK indie that includes Arctic Monkeys, Babyshambles and the atrocious 'We Are Scientists'. As DrFrasierCrane's official spokesman, I can confirm that he shares this view on the matter at hand...

More pwnage...

[TheGrimKreeper]

Ah, but I AM a closed-minded dick. No use in running from my true self.
Heh, fair enough.

[( ((hoBodav)) )]

I guess what I'm saying is that just saying, "they suck," makes you seem like a closed-minded dick, as oppose to saying why you don't like them, which generally settles much better with people. That, and that reasoning can actually contribute something to a conversation.

Well in Bloc Party's case, I actually have evidence that can let me say objectively that they suck: I saw them on tour opening for the Pixies last year, and they sucked.

They played horribly, every song sounded like the last, and I wished they would just end their set. Of course, I was being rained on, and I was more than a little pissed. So, giving them the benefit of the doubt, I went to see them again when they were playing in my city at a DANCE CLUB, and you know what? They still sucked. A LOT.

And the people attending their show were all old sweater-wearing, horn-rimmed glasses wearing weird haired "indie" freaks.

Maybe YOU could retort by saying that you saw them at two or three shows and they were better then.

It shocks me that bands like this and the Bravery got as much attention as Franz Ferdinand/the Killers/whatever, when they so obviously just jumped on the bandwagon of the bands that instigated this already-dying genre. I can't believe that their album was remixed by the likes of M83 and Mogwai.

I know you'd like to say, oh I listen to Wire, oh I listen to Joy Division, but its highly likely that you never would have heard of those bands if you hadn't been listening to Interpol and Franz Ferdinand, and once you ARE listening to those older bands, well what's the point of rehashing it again with shitty-ass, absolutely pointless and insignificant music like Bloc Party, We are Scientists, etc that have been squeezed through the accessible pop-making machine?

Don't get me wrong, baneofevil and thegrimreaper; my tastes overlap with yours in many ways, but you have to realize that just because some band is/was originally on an indie label doesn't automatically mean you should hail it as the next great thing. They are EXTREMELY overhyped. Their album is a top seller on amazon and all kinds of unpleasant people who call themselves "indie," but don't truly respect independent music, are fawning over it. Or maybe you are one of those people too, and I'm just preaching to dead air.

Plus, the music just isn't my thing.

On that note, you want modern music: http://www.younggodrecords.com/

[Shameless]

The Darkness and Jet were pretty good, then i never heard from them again.

The Darkness just came out w/ a new album a few months ago...pretty good.

Jet is currently recording a new album.

[Baneofevil3]

Well in Bloc Party's case, I actually have evidence that can let me say objectively that they suck: I saw them on tour opening for the Pixies last year, and they sucked.

They played horribly, every song sounded like the last, and I wished they would just end their set. Of course, I was being rained on, and I was more than a little pissed. So, giving them the benefit of the doubt, I went to see them again when they were playing in my city at a DANCE CLUB, and you know what? They still sucked. A LOT.

And the people attending their show were all old sweater-wearing, horn-rimmed glasses wearing weird haired "indie" freaks.

Maybe YOU could retort by saying that you saw them at two or three shows and they were better then.

It shocks me that bands like this and the Bravery got as much attention as Franz Ferdinand/the Killers/whatever, when they so obviously just jumped on the bandwagon of the bands that instigated this already-dying genre. I can't believe that their album was remixed by the likes of M83 and Mogwai.

I know you'd like to say, oh I listen to Wire, oh I listen to Joy Division, but its highly likely that you never would have heard of those bands if you hadn't been listening to Interpol and Franz Ferdinand, and once you ARE listening to those older bands, well what's the point of rehashing it again with shitty-ass, absolutely pointless and insignificant music like Bloc Party, We are Scientists, etc that have been squeezed through the accessible pop-making machine?

Don't get me wrong, baneofevil and thegrimreaper; my tastes overlap with yours in many ways, but you have to realize that just because some band is/was originally on an indie label doesn't automatically mean you should hail it as the next great thing. They are EXTREMELY overhyped. Their album is a top seller on amazon and all kinds of unpleasant people who call themselves "indie," but don't truly respect independent music, are fawning over it. Or maybe you are one of those people too, and I'm just preaching to dead air.

Plus, the music just isn't my thing.

On that note, you want modern music: http://www.younggodrecords.com/

Firstly, I heard Joy Division before Interpol or Franz Ferdinand. Secondly, I don't hail everything that was originally on an indie label. That would be foolish and ignorant. Thirdly, Bloc Party probably is overhyped, but I still like them, and the fact that they're bad live (I've never seen them) doesn't mean they suck. As for all of their songs sounding the same, you can say that about any band, or any genre of music, even. I think all country music sounds the same, but that doesn't mean it sucks. It simply means that I'm not into it enough for me to hear the differences. If you don't like Bloc Party's sound, that's fine; I don't care if you don't like Bloc Party. They're not even close to my favorite band, but that still doesn't mean that it's a fact that they suck.

[reggie jax]

But it's never a "fact" that a band sucks. So what's the point here?

[Shocka]

-Matisyahu


Yess.... Matisyahu - King Without A Crown - http://troubledone.com/musicvids/matisyahuking.htm

[SausMcMuff]

wow you guys both lost 3 inches off your penis after this thread... good job.

internet radio is probably the easiest way to find new talent nowadays, try woxy.com... it's pretty dope

[Baneofevil3]

But it's never a "fact" that a band sucks. So what's the point here?

I don't know. ( ((hoBodav)) ) just said that he had evidence that let him objectively say that Bloc Party sucks, so I replied to his post.

[( ((hoBodav)) )]

I'm sorry, I was really harsh. I was just being silly about the objective thing. I don't mean to shoot you down for liking one band, because you have awesome taste :bigwink:

What I was trying to say is that, to me, an artist should be able to skillfully present their art. If they can't recreate the music on their album in a live setting, then that tells me a) who they appear to be on the album is not who they actually are as a band, and b) they are SHAM artists. So to me, just from my personal experience with the band, in my eyes they are sham artists.

But this really doesn't bother me, because I know there are so many other really good bands that can fill that void, so I don't need to worry that I'm missing out on something "significant" by not having Bloc Party songs on my playlist.

But if you see something more in them, then awesome. "Good" is relative. As an answer to this pointless thread, good means any number of things to any number of people. I just want to find out what good is on my own, instead of having MTV or amazon.com tell me that Bloc Party or whatever else is hot now is "good," and believe it unquestionably.

[reggie jax]

What I was trying to say is that, to me, an artist should be able to skillfully present their art. If they can't recreate the music on their album in a live setting, then that tells me a) who they appear to be on the album is not who they actually are as a band, and b) they are SHAM artists.Not to keep playing devils advocate, but that would include a lot of great artists. How about a safe pick.. the Beatles? Their live shows couldn't have been anything like their studio recordings. There are just certain things you can do in a studio that you can't do on stage.

[BigRenn]

My chemical romance, the ghost of you. very good song...lyrics are great and the music video is awesome! that lead singer will go somewhere.

[wrathchild]

My chemical romance, the ghost of you. very good song...lyrics are great and the music video is awesome! that lead singer will go somewhere.
You better put on your flame-proof suit for saying anything good about MCR.
Because they suck sooo much its not even funny anymore.

[Stupified]

My chemical romance, the ghost of you. very good song...lyrics are great and the music video is awesome! that lead singer will go somewhere.

You're so open-minded that your brain fell out.

[KEALYBOY]

Melt-Banana

[temp100]

You're so open-minded that your brain fell out.
Haha, that's awesome. I think I'll remember that line.

[paranoia]

At least Iron Maiden are still making good music, to save us from the shite.

I FUCKING love Iron Maiden, are they working on a new album?!

[temp100]

At least Iron Maiden are still making good music, to save us from the shite.
Yes, indeed. How many bands could boast that they've been in music for decades and claim that they're still putting out brilliant albums like Brave New World and Dance of Death. I love Maiden.

[wrathchild]

I FUCKING love Iron Maiden, are they working on a new album?!
I have no sources for this, but I expect they will have one out later this year. However, now that they are getting old (lets face it), they are having more rest time after touring.

[fearfactory1100]

All Ipecac record label artists

Tomahawk
Fantomas
Dalek
Guapo
Kid606
General patton Vs. Exe-Cutioners
Melvins
Skeleton Key
Curse of the Golden Vampire

Umm...

Some others like Radiohead, Pelican, SIgur Ros, Mogwai

[liquid jesus]

I accutally like alot of modern music

like

Sufjan stevens
Death Cab For Cutie
John mayer
Minus The Bear
Muse
Pete Yorn
Primus(not really new but not to old either)
311

[TheGrimKreeper]

Yes, Sufjan Stevens. If anything, Sufjan Stevens can hold good music for us for a while longer yet.

[Solidus]

ppl can say new music sucks all they want...i know what music i like and nobody is gonna sway me another way. (btw if you like country you are gay) harhar
edit: I don't like most "gangster" rap, but I like the beats of some hip hop and how it has changed some music.

[firepiss]

Sorry, you do have valid points. It just annoys me that nearly all that people have to offer to anything is "it sucks". That's really all that drew me to comment in the first place. My comment may as well have been directed to you as to all the other people on this thread, or any thread for that matter, that just say "it sucks" for seemingly no reason. At the very least say, "I don't like them", or, "I think they suck." Just saying "they suck" gives off a somewhat pompous air with you and or taste in music, and implies that they produce no good music by anyone's standards and have no skill. Obviously, someone will disagree with that. And what I ment as far as logical reasons is to say just why you don't like them, what you find disagreeable about the music, which you pointed out.

I guess what I'm saying is that just saying, "they suck," makes you seem like a closed-minded dick, as oppose to saying why you don't like them, which generally settles much better with people. That, and that reasoning can actually contribute something to a conversation.


TheGrimKreeper, me and you should form an alliance. I've been trying to tell some of the people here the same thing! You've gained my respect. I look foward to your future posts.

[MiKe]

I'm with you guys.

[ChEeSuS]

I usually try to only listen to new music and i think its pathetic if u only listen to old music ...seriously get a life...

[Lambchop]

Generally, I don't listen to rap or country songs (however, there ARE good songs in both of those categories). It's not that I have any special dislike for those genres, I just get bored before the song ends. Who wants to listen to boring music?

Recently I've been listening to:
Panic! At The Disco
~Great lyrics, very creative songs; even if you don't like them, you must say they are original. The Chuck Palahniuk references are cool, as well.

The Academy Is...
~Not the most standout band by any means, but certainly not bad either. Appreciation came after a few listens; since then I have come to really like them.

Motion City Soundtrack
~I must admit, I am a new fan to MCS. Not every song is great on their new album, but Pierre's voice is a fun change from the norm. Plus, when the songs are good, they're damn good.

Fall Out Boy
~Yes, I do only have their new album. Yes, I know there are others. No, I am not a "scene" kid. FOB has great original lyrics, and cool guitar riffs.

O.A.R.
~Some of the chillest music that I know of. The blend of rock/reggae/ska seems silly on paper, but is great in execution. I have three of their albums, and I only dislike about 4 or 5 songs. None of them are unlistenable.

Jack Johnson
~Great acoustic music. Yeah, so a guy and an acoustic guitar has been done before. So what? That doesn't make his music any less enjoyable.

I also like:
Dropkick Murphys (gotta love the bagpipes)
Flogging Molly (I like me some sham-rock)
Yellowcard (though only the Ocean Avenue album... I wish they'd continue in that direction, those songs are awesome)
Green Day (Yes, yes, I know, I know... but I enjoy it)
Maroon 5 (I borrowed this CD when it first came out, and thought it was shit... months later I listened again and found that I enjoyed it quite a bit)

and there are many more...

Yes, I do like older stuff as well. But I think the classic rock die-hards who say that the only good music was made more than 10-20 years ago are doing themselves a disservice. No, there may not be another Jimi Hendrix or Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd, but that doesn't mean music will never be good. Open your eyes.

[JustinJJ]

I usually try to only listen to new music and i think its pathetic if u only listen to old music ...seriously get a life...

I'm sorry that I'm not as hip and trendy as you are. People like you are stupid. I don't get why people care so much about what other people listen to. I only listen to old music because I like it. Since I like it, I'll continue to listen to it. The reason I like to listen to old music is because it reflected the culture at the time. Every decade has a different type of music to reflect the culture at the time. That's why 80's music sounds different than 50's music and so on. The only reason I like old music because I like the way it sounds. I don't listen to music to be hip and trendy.

I'm not saying that all people who listen to new music listen to it to "fit in" but it's obvious that ChEeSuS does.

[reggie jax]

It's obvious to me that Cheesus or whatever is just a fake account created to stir up shit.

[wallpapertools]

We follow the black life style. More and more white people wanna become BLACK. Its sad, rap isnt even music.

We gotta go back to they we were in the 70s.

what is it then if it isant music?

everyone writes mystery novels, its sad, its not even a book....thats how stupid you sound. Just because you dont like something does not mean its not music or literature or anything. homo.