Anti-War Protesters are blind

[Stanky105]

I fail to see any logic behind the anti-war protesters. Saddam Huissien is a murderer and liar. He was taking the same steps as Hitler did when building up Germany, the rest of the world slapped his wrist until Germany was strong and beat the crap out of it's neighbors. You think people would obviously see the same thing developing with Iraq. Diplomacy failed to stop the gulf war, and diplomacy failed to disarm Iraq for 12 years. 12 years!!! What makes you think he is keeping his word after that? And why would leaving Saddam in power bring peace to the region? He gasses his own people, has professional rapists who rape the wives of people who speak out against the regime. Yep, by golly, sounds peaceful to me. I bet the Iraqi people love to hear the protesters say how Iraqis love their government, with acid baths and public executions just for saying you do not agree with Saddam Huissien. Man, I could go on for pages, it just urks me that these anti-war protesters are blind to all of this. They hear the word "war" and flock to the street to stand there forever holding a sign demoralizing our troops in the gulf. And what was with that stupid skip-school strike? Yeah, thats patiotic, lets all skip school. You just better damn appreciate America, where you CAN protest without being gunned down.

[God666]

I especially find the religious protestors to be quite hypocritical. Many (not all) use the argument that God gave us the commandment Thou shalt not kill, but a story including Moses seems to disprove that argument. Moses went to war with some neighboring army, blah blah blah, God basically told Moses, "Yo Moses! If you keep ya arms raised up and stand on the top o this here hill, I'll make sure ya guys win. If you don't keep ya arms up, ya gonna lose." Sure enough Moses kept his arms up, and when he let them down, his army started losing. But Moses raised his arms again and he won. So why would God allow that to happen unless he felt that war (to an extent) can be justified. Yet in chris' words, they don't think, and they go on without educating themselves on the issue at hand.

[God666]

I just thought of something that I should make clear. I am not atheist, in fact I am an honest believer in God, I go to mass every Sunday, so I would appreciate it if you radicals wouldn't try to shoot me down with comments of how I have no respect for religion blah blah blah because the exact opposite is actually true. I thank you beforehand for being patient and respectful to not just me but everyone in the Forum.

[shade]

people shouldnt mention religion in this. when someone says something like "god wouldnt want you to kill people" or whatever, just list this off:

Noah's Ark - god kills everything on the planet
saddam - god destroys a city
gamora - god destroys a city
exodus - god kills the crops of egypt with locusts, every first born, many die of thirst from rivers turning to blood, from fire raining down, etc
god instructs moses to kill all of the babylonians (current day muslims living near israel)
god helps the kings of israel in the family line of david slaughter 100s of thousands, even millions of people in wars where he performs miracles to protect israel.

basically, tell them to read the fucking old testament and not to argue with you about religion or bring religion in to the debate.

oh yeah and "thou shalt not kill." well saddam has killed over 1,000,000 muslims...................... it would be a sin to do nothing to prevent him from killing 1 million more.

[pilot1982]

The thing that really sickens me is when I see the protests on the news and I see kids who are 6 or 7 years old protesting something that they have absolutely no idea about. It is a shame that their parents would subject them to that ordeal. Then again their parents don't have a clue on what they are talking about either. I say pack them all up and send them to Iraq if they need a different perspective.

[God666]

Originally posted by shade
oh yeah and "thou shalt not kill." well saddam has killed over 1,000,000 muslims...................... it would be a sin to do nothing to prevent him from killing 1 million more.
HELL YES! thank you for saying that i wholehearted agree with you. i know what you mean about the religion thing but it was just something that was bothering me and i wanted to say something about it. i really do believe in God, it's just that some people portray him as a mass murderer, and i feel that they're highly mistaken about that. you're right again when you say that people should read the old testament; it's the OLD testament that's how God WAS, the new testament shows a much more loving and benign God.

[scorpiogal]

I completely agree with Stanky. I get so pissed whenever I turn on the news and see these morons on TV protesting. If they actually put down their signs and watched the news for 5 minutes they might see that the people in Iraq have been waiting for this war for years! The way I see it is, if people in Iraq dont have a problem with this war WHY should the protesters? THEY arent the ones that have to live in fear of being murdered or tortured. They want peace? Well sometimes it takes war to bring peace. If we listened to protesters in WWII all of Europe and possibly America, would be speaking German right now, and no Jews would be alive today. These protesters keep saying they dont want a war over oil. WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GET THAT FROM! iF we wanted the damned oil we could have taken it 12 years ago when we kicked their asses the last time! This is about getting rid of a maniac that can and will kill as many Americans as he possibly can if given the chance, not to mention what he does to his own people on a daily basis. They say we should look for another way to solve this problem. but I dont hear a one of them offering up any REALISTIC suggestions. I seriously think that these people must live in a Brady Bunch episode if they honestly believe talk and reason will change the mind of an unreasonable man. You cant reason with a psycho!

[g3ddy_lee]

Hey guys, I wrote a pro-war article for

http://www.run-around.com

Please read it and tell me what you think. [Site is still in development stages] Click 'U.S. At War' under 'Political Rants.'

-Geddy Lee

[God666]

"golf clap?" "golf clap."
patpatpatpatpat

[Truerussian558]

i'll say this again. the u.s. is only atacking Iraq because it has oil. there are 4 or 5 other countries with evil dictators doing the same things (torturing their people, jailing political opositions)
but the u.s. doesn't care becasue there is nothing valuable on their land. I'm not saying that Saddam husein should be left in power i'm saying is that we should let the iraqi peopel handle it. they will realize that saddam is a bad person. otherwise what we are doing right now is increasing iraqi support for saddam husein as a hero protecting his country and this makes the military personell more eager to protect saddam husein

[g3ddy_lee]

They already KNOW he is a bad person! What the fuck can they do, overthrow a dictator with a personal military? Dream on! Maybe in your little Utopia it would work. But not in the real world.

-Geddy

[Truerussian558]

right now the u.s. is only making the iraqi people to change their mind because he is being looked as a hero protecting his country

[God666]

Originally posted by Truerussian558
i'll say this again. the u.s. is only atacking Iraq because it has oil. there are 4 or 5 other countries with evil dictators doing the same things (torturing their people, jailing political opositions)
but the u.s. doesn't care becasue there is nothing valuable on their land. I'm not saying that Saddam husein should be left in power i'm saying is that we should let the iraqi peopel handle it. they will realize that saddam is a bad person. otherwise what we are doing right now is increasing iraqi support for saddam husein as a hero protecting his country and this makes the military personell more eager to protect saddam husein
1. name some of those other countries please. specifics help us understand exactly what's going and what you're saying.
2. the people of Iraq CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO OVERTHROW SADAAM! they already realize he's a bad person, that's why he kills people in his own country, because they have different opinions than he does. sadaam is too powerful in the country. he has all the weapons. he has all the troops, so who's going to fight sadaam?
3. as you said in the "Pro-War Article" thread, "next time research you oppinions a bit more before writing them", which i think you meant "your opinions". you obviously are not educated on the subject and until you are, you should not post anything. that is hypocrisy and as some people here know i despise that with a passion.

[scorpiogal]

Have you actually been watching any of the news thats been on 24/7? Iraqi's are welcomming the U.S. troops, they dont love SAddam they want him GONE! On Dateline the other night the Iraqis interviewed were saying that they are cooking food for our troops THAT is how much they are anticipating our arrival! Oh yeah it really sounds like they think Saddam is a hero! Where in Gods name did you get that impression?
Another thing, Iraqi people cannot and will not be able to "handle it themselves" Saddam has been in power for over 30 years and had killed millions in that time. Saddam's son personally tortures and murders olympians and Iraqi athletes if they, heaven forbid...play poorly and disgrace Iraq. If this is what they do to athletes can you imagine what they would do to an average citizen who tries to overthrow him? They are in fear..ALL of them even their military. Many U.S. troops have commented on how the Iraqi soldiers seem more than willing to surrender, they have said its almost as if the soldiers are relieved that they dont have to follow Saddams orders any more. Seriously watch the new before you comment on how thet Iraqis love Saddam

[God666]

assuming your name indicates your sign, scorpiogal, we scorpios kick ass!

[scorpiogal]

Yes it does, and yes we do!

[Snooginz]

I gotta go ahead and say here and now.......Fuck protestors. To hell with all of you. I want you to understand what you people are protesting. You are protesting the liberation of a country that has lived in pain, suffering, and poverty for longer than most of these god damn protestors have been alive. You are protesting ridding the world of an evil dictator who thrives on seeing the blood of his own countrymen just for political power. And you are protesting ridding the world of to put this simply........Evil. If we, as Americans do not go into Iraq and remove Sadaam from power......who the hell will? Who is gonna save these people? Are we supposed to sit idely by as he gasses, rapes, and executes his own countrymen without doing a damn thing? Are we supposed to just sit around with our thumbs up our asses while Sadaam continues to arm himself with nuclear and biological weapons? It took three, THREE envelopes with antrhax to shut this country down a year and a half ago......three little envelopes with powder scared our country shitless, and killed innocent people.......Now lets look at a bigger scale terrorist attack. What is gonna happen when Sadaam has the capability to launch biological weapons massive enough to hit every corner of our country.......Will you protest war when that day comes? Will you be aginst war when your parents, grandparents, wives, husbands, children, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc. are killed on account of biological warfare? Believe me, I feel for the people who are going to die in this war. I dont want to see anymore dying as much as the next person........But we need to think about what is going to happen if we let Sadaam sit on his thrown of power for a second longer. If this war were to not happen, then innocent Iraqi citizens will continue to be slaughtered. Men, women, children who only wanted to live free like every american has the right to do. This is our chance to free them. And by protesting you are saying that innocent Iraqi people can't live freely. You're saying they don't deserve the freedom that we have. I want Sadaam to die. Here and now I say he needs to pay for what he did. The man needs to be killed. to hell with exile. the man needs to be killed immediately. Not for oil, not to make America look like a bully......But for freedom.

[Instigator]

Well that certainly puts things in perspective.:rolleyes:

Apparently we're fighting for freedom...!

[Kobe]

@Anti-war protestors

How would you fill if sadam did have wmd and bombed the usa and killed your family would you still protest against war.

[Instigator]

Originally posted by Kobe
How would you fill if sadam did have wmd and bombed the usa and killed your family would you still protest against war.

lol. This is what your party hath wrought, shade.

[Bergs]

I prefer that than clueless fools like lynch, nobrain, sid, and yourself.

[BigMattTheHobo]

Originally posted by Kobe
@Anti-war protestors

How would you fill if sadam did have wmd and bombed the usa and killed your family would you still protest against war.


That is the stupiest question I have ever heard. You can't make decisions based on fake situations. Should we blow up mars? Because what if aliens were on mars and they wanted to kill us?

[huge_mischief]

Originally posted by Instigator
lol. This is what your party hath wrought, shade. I like how Instigator goes digging through the cobwebs to find old posts to attack.
You should feel so guilty, Instigator, for mercilessly attacking abandoned threads by unregistered guests who must care so much about their posts. I'm sure they are just sitting their staring at the moniter foaming at the mouth with rage over your replies.

[Bergs]

Actually this is dug up because BabyZeus is a homo and pushed up a shitload of year old threads.

[Instigator]

Good job, mischief, you fuckstick.

[Kobe]

Originally posted by BigMattTheHobo
That is the stupiest question I have ever heard. You can't make decisions based on fake situations. Should we blow up mars? Because what if aliens were on mars and they wanted to kill us?

Im not asking them to make a decisions,Im asking them how they would fill if that did happen.

[Nolimitsoldier]

Originally posted by Bergs
I prefer that than clueless fools like lynch, nobrain, sid, and yourself.

I wanna punch you in the face

[huge_mischief]

Originally posted by Instigator
Good job, mischief, you fuckstick. Was there a post in between yours and the previous one that was deleted?

[Bergs]

I wanna punch you in the face

The feelings mutual, although I wouldnt stop there.

[j.elohim]

Originally posted by Nolimitsoldier
I wanna punch you in the face

Words cannot express how stupid that statement is :eek:

[Slim]

Originally posted by j.elohim
Words cannot express how stupid that statement is :eek:

Actually it was kinda funny!

[PunXnotDead]

Anyone can see that Bush is a damn liar, he wanted Iraq's oil, and Iraq had no WMD, nor did they stand a chance against us. So, why it is questioned why we would protest to Bush killing civilians(even children, 50% of the population of Iraq is under the age of 15) and liberating a country so that he could make the rich get rich and the poor get poor. Anyway, why the hell would someone support Bush's hypocritical Start a war to prevent a war bullshit anyway? War is wrong no matter what the cause, it is nothing but murder. You just might find this interesting- http://www.ajc.com/news/content/opinion/bookman/2004/020504.html some people only see one side of the story when it comes to war because of nationlism. I understand Hussein was a fascist dictator who killed and experimented chemical weapons on civilians and raped and so on and so on, and I think that is evil, BUT, that is clearly not what this war was about! What is the matter with you people!

[ClamChowderMan!]

for those of u who say stop saddam from killing
why is it not terrorism when we do the killing - not just iraq plenty of other innocent counrties that we seem to never hear about because we r the "good guys who protect peace"

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by ClamChowderMan!
for those of u who say stop saddam from killing
why is it not terrorism when we do the killing - not just iraq plenty of other innocent counrties that we seem to never hear about because we r the "good guys who protect peace"

hmmm...lets see. Do we go around killing several thousand innocent people? no. Terrorists attack the innocent. We attack those who attack the innocent. When the Germans attacked the Jews, we attacked them. When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, we attacked them. When Al-Quida attacked the WTC, we attacked them. Its the same thing with Saddam. He attacked his own people and we went after him. The WMD were only part of the reason why we went after him. Bush made that clear in his State of the Union address back when all this started. The U.S. intellegence had gathered evidence that Saddam had chemical weapons. Bush did not just randomly come to the conclusion that Saddam had WMD. If you were president and the intellegence that you relied on told you that Iraq was an imminate threat, would you just ignore that and sit back and do nothing? I really doubt it.

[BigMattTheHobo]

YAY!!! Another person who thinks Iraq attacked us!!!!!! YAY!!!!

[Bergs]

In his defense Matt, he didnt say that, although what he said was illogical.

Sketch, the United States does not attack people solely because they abuse their people or attack another country. America attacks when our national interests are at stake. Saddam abusing his people had nothing to do with it, if it did we would have went in in 88. And the Jews had nothing to do with us being at war with Germany.

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by BigMattTheHobo
YAY!!! Another person who thinks Iraq attacked us!!!!!! YAY!!!!

Please, tell me, when did I say that? I said Al-Quida attacked us. I said Saddam attacked his own citizens. Please read more carefully before making yourself look like an idiot.

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by Bergs Saddam abusing his people had nothing to do with it

Actually it did. Read the President's State of the Union Adress from 2003.

[BigMattTheHobo]

Yes, I misread, I apologize. Although the post blows anyways.

We didn't attack Germany for killing Jews. To my knowledge we didn't even though that stuff was going on until we got near them. And Japan attacked us first, we retaliated and Germany decalred war on us.


lol, al quida.

[bobby2k]

Bush did not just randomly come to the conclusion that Saddam had WMD. If you were president and the intellegence that you relied on told you that Iraq was an imminate threat, would you just ignore that and sit back and do nothing? I really doubt it.

this is the whole entire contraversy coming about right now.