View Full Version : Best QB of all time (*FINAL ROUND*)
soso0901
02-22-2006, 05:14 PM
Ok, this is the final round of "The Best QB of all time"
We've narrowed it down to just three QBs, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and John Elway.
At this point you are voting for who the best is.
The QB with the most votes wins... pretty simple.
Squibbles
02-22-2006, 05:16 PM
i vote elway
Jimothy51
02-22-2006, 05:28 PM
As much as I love Elway, it has to be Montana. He has the stats and the rings.
Wu-tang
02-22-2006, 06:19 PM
How is it this close? Are you fucking kidding me?
atreyu_2020
02-23-2006, 12:29 AM
Elway is clown shoes compared to these guys, (I'll save some of you people the time of typing "He has rings!!1!1!!")...he has 2 rings, big fucking deal as to none, he wasnt better than Marino, and sure as shit wasnt better than Montana.
soso0901
02-23-2006, 12:30 AM
Elway is clown shoes compared to these guys, (I'll save some of you people the time of typing "He has rings!!1!1!!")...he has 1 ring, big fucking deal as to none, he wasnt better than Marino, and sure as shit wasnt better than Montana.
...He actually has two rings, and was superbowl mvp in his second one.
atreyu_2020
02-23-2006, 12:35 AM
...He actually has two rings, and was superbowl mvp in his second one.
My bad, typing error.
And it still doesnt make him better than Marino.....BenRo already has 1 ring, probably will get more...hell even more than Elway, but that still doesnt make him better than Marino.
Lloyd Christmas
02-23-2006, 12:46 AM
My bad, typing error.
And it still doesnt make him better than Marino.....BenRo already has 1 ring, probably will get more...hell even more than Elway, but that still doesnt make him better than Marino.
OK your saying he isn't better than Marino and Montana, can you elaborate on it alittle bit?
atreyu_2020
02-23-2006, 12:54 AM
OK your saying he isn't better than Marino and Montana, can you elaborate on it alittle bit?
Okay, obviously he isnt better than Montana, Montana had eyes in the back of his head...he was more accurate than Elway, 63 percentage, took his team to 4 Superbowls....I know I was just rambling on about how rings dont mean anything...but 4...4 rings is something thats not even heard of, taking your team to team to the big time and winning it 5 times is something no quarterback will ever do (including Brady)...also, 3 time Superbowl MVP, cant beat that.
As for Marino, I can easily say Elway had the twice the team Marino had.
#1 in pass attempts, completions, passing yards, touchdowns, 59 percentage completion, more accurate, better cannon, the better quarterback overall...and he did all this WITHOUT A TEAM.
Wu-tang
02-23-2006, 01:04 AM
Are you kidding me?
Quickest release, 9 pro bowls.
Here's some more stats if you really want them.
* Most Attempts, Career: 8,358
* Most Completions, Career: 4,967
* Most Yards Passing, Career: 61,361
* Most Touchdown Passes, Career: 420
* Most Passing Yards, Season: 5,084 in 1984
* Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Career: 13
* Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Season: 4 in 1984
* Most Games, 300 or more Yards Passing, Career: 60
* Most Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98)
* Most Consecutive Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 9 (1984-92)
* Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Career: 21
* Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Season: 6 in 1984
* Most Consecutive Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes: 4 in 1984
* Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Rookie Season: 2.03 in 1983 (296-6)
* Most Seasons Leading League, Attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
* Most Seasons Leading League, Completions: 6 (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1997)
* Most Seasons, 40 or more Touchdown Passes: 2 (1984, 1986)
* Most Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 13 (1983-92, 1994-95, 1998)
* Most Consecutive Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 10 (1983-92)
* 100 TD Passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 44 (9/7/86 at San Diego)
* 200 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 89 (9/17/89 at New England)
* 300 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 157 (9/4/94 vs. New England)
* Named NFL Most Valuable Player (1984)
* Played 242 games, starting 240 of them
* Career completion percentage of 59.4%
* Career passing efficiency rating is 86.4
* Threw 252 interceptions in his career
* First QB in NFL history to have six 4,000-yard seasons (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1994)
* Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories
* Holds Dolphins team record for most seasons played, 17.
* Had 116 wins under Don Shula – the most by a head coach - quarterback combination in NFL history.
* Won the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 18 times in the regular season
* Started 240 Regular Season Games and Held a 147-93 record as a starter
* Played in 18 Playoff Games and Held a 8-10 Record in the Playoffs
* One of only six quarterbacks in NFL history that have achieved two consecutive (back-to-back) 30-touchdown passing seasons at least one time in their careers
You can't blame Marino for never winning a Supebowl eithr. The only receivers Marino had were the Mark brothers. After Shula retired Jimmy Johnson fucked Marino over. The Bills at the time were a more complete team than the Dolphins were. The Dolphins had no defense. And they never had a good RB to take the load off of Marino.
This is just why Marino is ebtter than Elway. Montanna is...just obviously better than the two. Elway was a great QB though don't get me wrong. But nto better than Marino.
Shorty|*|RocK89
02-23-2006, 01:20 AM
Elway all the way!!!!!!!!!
-Played in a franchise-record 22 postseason games (including five Super Bowls), with 21 starts, and produced a 14-7 record (9-2 at home, 3-2 on the road and 2-3 at neutral sites).
-He is the only player ever to start in five Super Bowls, and has the NFL's all-time best record as a starting quarterback in Conference Championship Games at 5-1.
-Elway owns or shares 18 Broncos' postseason records, including most passing yards, most touchdown passes and total offense (combined rushing and passing yards).
-He completed 355 of 651 passes (54.5%) for 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns and 21 interceptions.
-Rushed 94 times for 461 yards (4.9 av) and six touchdowns and caught one pass for 23 yards in postseason play.
-Elway ranks second in NFL postseason history in passing yardage (Montana), third in completions (Montana, Marino) and pass attempts (Montana, Marino) and fourth in passing touchdowns (Montana, Marino and Bradshaw).
-In Super Bowl games Elway ranks No.1 in pass attempts (152), No.3 in completions (76), No.2 in passing yards (1,128) and tied for second in rushing TD's (4) with Franco Harris and Thurman Thomas (Emmitt Smith has 5).
-Six of Elway's NFL-record 47 fourth-quarter game-winning or game-saving drives came in the postseason.
-Only player in NFL history to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 200 yards in the same season for seven straight years (1985-91).
-Generated 4,771 of the 5,806 points (82.2%) scored by the Broncos during his 16-year tenure with the club.
-Ranks No. 1 in NFL history in fourth quarter, game-winning or game-saving drives with 47 (46-0-1 record), and had 36 career 300-yard passing games in the regular season, third among active quarterbacks at the time of his retirement (Marino, Warren Moon). Also caught three passes in regular season play for 61 yards, including a touchdown of 23 yards from Steve Sewell in 1986 (vs Raiders wk. 1).
# In 1991, he became the only quarterback to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 200 yards in the same season for seven consecutive seasons.
# He was named the AFC Offensive MVP in 1993 when he passed for over 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns.
# In 1997, he led the Broncos to their first ever Super Bowl win in Super Bowl XXXII. His three previous attempts in Super Bowls XXI, XXII, and XXIV were unsuccessful.
# On January 31, 1999, in Super Bowl XXXIII he passed for 336 yards in a 34-19 victory over the Atlanta Falcons. Elway was named the Super Bowl MVP.
# He was selected to the Pro Bowl nine times during his 16 seasons with the Broncos.
# Over his professional career, he led his teams to a record 47 fourth quarter comebacks.
# He led the NFL all-time list with 148 wins as a starting quarterback.
-Played baseball for the New York Yankees' Oneonta (NY) single-A farm club in 1982, hitting for a .318 average and knocking in a team-high 25 RBI in 42 games.
-Was the Yankees' first selection in the 1981 summer draft.
Elway made history , throwing the new Vortex foam football over 110 yards.
atreyu_2020
02-23-2006, 01:32 AM
Elway all the way!!!!!!!!!
-Played in a franchise-record 22 postseason games (including five Super Bowls), with 21 starts, and produced a 14-7 record (9-2 at home, 3-2 on the road and 2-3 at neutral sites).
-He is the only player ever to start in five Super Bowls, and has the NFL's all-time best record as a starting quarterback in Conference Championship Games at 5-1.
-Elway owns or shares 18 Broncos' postseason records, including most passing yards, most touchdown passes and total offense (combined rushing and passing yards).
-He completed 355 of 651 passes (54.5%) for 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns and 21 interceptions.
-Rushed 94 times for 461 yards (4.9 av) and six touchdowns and caught one pass for 23 yards in postseason play.
-Elway ranks second in NFL postseason history in passing yardage (Montana), third in completions (Montana, Marino) and pass attempts (Montana, Marino) and fourth in passing touchdowns (Montana, Marino and Bradshaw).
-In Super Bowl games Elway ranks No.1 in pass attempts (152), No.3 in completions (76), No.2 in passing yards (1,128) and tied for second in rushing TD's (4) with Franco Harris and Thurman Thomas (Emmitt Smith has 5).
-Six of Elway's NFL-record 47 fourth-quarter game-winning or game-saving drives came in the postseason.
-Only player in NFL history to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 200 yards in the same season for seven straight years (1985-91).
-Generated 4,771 of the 5,806 points (82.2%) scored by the Broncos during his 16-year tenure with the club.
-Ranks No. 1 in NFL history in fourth quarter, game-winning or game-saving drives with 47 (46-0-1 record), and had 36 career 300-yard passing games in the regular season, third among active quarterbacks at the time of his retirement (Marino, Warren Moon). Also caught three passes in regular season play for 61 yards, including a touchdown of 23 yards from Steve Sewell in 1986 (vs Raiders wk. 1).
# In 1991, he became the only quarterback to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 200 yards in the same season for seven consecutive seasons.
# He was named the AFC Offensive MVP in 1993 when he passed for over 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns.
# In 1997, he led the Broncos to their first ever Super Bowl win in Super Bowl XXXII. His three previous attempts in Super Bowls XXI, XXII, and XXIV were unsuccessful.
# On January 31, 1999, in Super Bowl XXXIII he passed for 336 yards in a 34-19 victory over the Atlanta Falcons. Elway was named the Super Bowl MVP.
# He was selected to the Pro Bowl nine times during his 16 seasons with the Broncos.
# Over his professional career, he led his teams to a record 47 fourth quarter comebacks.
# He led the NFL all-time list with 148 wins as a starting quarterback.
-Played baseball for the New York Yankees' Oneonta (NY) single-A farm club in 1982, hitting for a .318 average and knocking in a team-high 25 RBI in 42 games.
-Was the Yankees' first selection in the 1981 summer draft.
Elway made history , throwing the new Vortex foam football over 110 yards.
Funny how aside from all these fourth quarter stats, everything else Marino has him beat....oh, and now since you want to bring in other statistics, besides football....Dan Marino is a sports commentator on 2 different shows, being one of the best might I add, and throwing a Vortex foam football has nothing over Marino eating 2,381 hot wings in 15 minutes...beat it honky.
His 461 rushing yards and 6 rushing touchdowns have nothing on Montanas 1676 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns...again, Marino and Montana
As much as I love Elway, it has to be Montana. He has the stats and the rings.
Montana is 4-0 with Super Bowls, ya? Ya. Done.
Masterbasser412
02-23-2006, 04:28 PM
Atreyu, did u vote for Marino or Montana?
atreyu_2020
02-23-2006, 04:46 PM
Atreyu, did u vote for Marino or Montana?
I voted for Montana, if Marino would have atleast won 1 Superbowl I'd probably pick him over Montana.
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