Drew Brees Noooo!!! [Archive] - eBaum's World Forum

atreyu_2020

02-27-2006, 11:23 PM

The Chargers whole organization is full of dumbshits. They very easily should have went to the playoffs. (why the hell didn't they start Antonio Gates against the Cowboys?) And why'd they let Drew play that last meaningless game?

Thats exactly it..the management and coaching..they have one of the most talented offenses in the NFL, and they have been the #1 rush defense in the league for 2 years...that is enough to get you in the playoffs...it's the consistency and coaching of the team.

crocop

02-27-2006, 11:29 PM

So there full of dumbshits.Atleast they beat the gay NY Giants with there gay qb sheli manning.

Wu-tang

02-27-2006, 11:41 PM

Atleast we made it to the playoffs...
Atleast we weren't 3rd in our division...

No wait I got a better one, atleast we have a QB.

crocop

02-27-2006, 11:55 PM

atleast when we make it to the playoffs we get shutout 23-0
and we do have a qb hes called phillip rivers

atreyu_2020

02-28-2006, 12:00 AM

atleast when we make it to the playoffs we get shutout 23-0
and we do have a qb hes called phillip rivers

Rivers hasent proved anything dude..

Wu-tang

02-28-2006, 12:07 AM

1. Baby steps...baby steps..
2. 17 completions and 148 yards in his career, he's something special.

AsHopeDies

02-28-2006, 12:11 AM

no....Eli's playoff performance...now that's something special ;) They had to do something, I mean, they didn't draft Rivers for nothing, you don't leave talent like that on the bench. Believe me...Chargers fans will be happier with Rivers, he's no Ryan Leaf.

crocop

02-28-2006, 12:29 AM

I know hes something special look at the guy

http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eli9pu.jpg

beardo

02-28-2006, 12:52 AM

COME TO CLEVELAND BREES!

Jimothy51

02-28-2006, 04:16 PM

I'm a Broncos fan, so I hope they release him.

MusicIsDead

02-28-2006, 04:24 PM

I'm a Broncos fan, so I hope they release him.
As a raiders fan, i hope they do too. Al will probably make a move on him because walter isnt ready yet and collins should finally be gone:). Brees will leave, but not leave the division.

atreyu_2020

02-28-2006, 09:05 PM

I wouldnt care if he went to Baltimore or Cleveland...nothing can save those teams..Braylon will be a bust, and Winslow will find some way to injury prone himself again...as for Baltimore, bye bye Lewis (not like that was a big deal anyway)..Mason is getting old, Heap is their only talent on that team..Clayton will be good in a few years.

TheDawgPound72

02-28-2006, 09:19 PM

atreyu_2020

02-28-2006, 09:21 PM

How will Braylon be a bust? In his rookie season before he got hurt, he led all rookie receievers in receiving yards. He burned one of the best defenses in the league in Jacksonville with 4 catches/88 yards/2 TDs, before he was hurt, with a rookie QB throwing to him. Frye/Edwards will be a good combo for years to come.

Well leading the league out of rookies is uh, not that big of an accomplishment, considering Edwards was the #1, #2 receiver..while Mike Williams, Matt Jones, and Troy Williamson were 3rd slot receivers..

He burned one defense? Jacksonville is not one of the best defenses in the league, they have a great defensive line, thats about it..not that big of an accomplishment.

Frye...:rolleyes: 41-0 :)

Biological_Dad

02-28-2006, 11:09 PM

As much as a love Brees, and he's looking down on me from his poster directly above my monitor, beggars simply can't be choosers. He has to realize his injury is rare and that there's too speculation when it comes to his performance after it heals up.

Anyways, i'm predicting he'll end up with the Chargers, AJ Smith just likes to prolong stuff like this all the time and it ends up working up. I remember when all of SD thought Merriman wouldn't play with us because of the contract dispute, and AJ Smith wasn't giving an inch, and then it all worked up.

Brees will be a charger next season.

atreyu_2020

03-01-2006, 12:11 AM

I love how 6 people voted no..do you honestly think Philip Rivers would do a better job than Brees?

AsHopeDies

03-01-2006, 10:51 AM

Yes, no doubt it my mind. Did you watch Rivers at all at NC State? And honestly, with the weapons in San Diego, they should be doing better than they are.

atreyu_2020

03-01-2006, 05:00 PM

Yes, no doubt it my mind. Did you watch Rivers at all at NC State? And honestly, with the weapons in San Diego, they should be doing better than they are.

This isnt even opinion mattered because we havent seen Rivers play or start a full game, we know NOTHING of this kids NFL talents..

wsuwarrior

03-01-2006, 06:37 PM

I love how 6 people voted no..do you honestly think Philip Rivers would do a better job than Brees?

No, but i want them to release him. Brees would look pretty handsome in the Green & Gold.

Wu-tang

03-01-2006, 10:57 PM

...Are you kidding me?

MusicIsDead

03-01-2006, 11:04 PM

No, but i want them to release him. Brees would look pretty handsome in the Green & Gold.
*Silver and black.

atreyu_2020

03-02-2006, 12:17 AM

*Silver and black.

Not even Drew Brees could fix that team.

seansean

03-02-2006, 09:49 AM

Fuck that and Bledsoe, Dallas needs him. Bledsoe plays like a Macy's manequin with a football.

AsHopeDies

03-02-2006, 10:57 AM

I love how 6 people voted no..do you honestly think Philip Rivers would do a better job than Brees?

This isnt even opinion mattered because we havent seen Rivers play or start a full game, we know NOTHING of this kids NFL talents..

Congratulations...you just killed whatever credibility you had. You asked if people thought he could do better than Brees, so I say yes, I think he can/will because of the way he played in college, and you say, this isn't about opinion? Uh....what? I think Rivers has more tools that Brees and will easily go down as the better pro player. I think they played on getting Brees out of there earlier but after Rivers held out, Brees earned the job for a year, and not making the playoffs for a team like San Diego is not the best way to hold on to that job.

atreyu_2020

03-02-2006, 04:29 PM

Congratulations...you just killed whatever credibility you had. You asked if people thought he could do better than Brees, so I say yes, I think he can/will because of the way he played in college, and you say, this isn't about opinion? Uh....what? I think Rivers has more tools that Brees and will easily go down as the better pro player. I think they played on getting Brees out of there earlier but after Rivers held out, Brees earned the job for a year, and not making the playoffs for a team like San Diego is not the best way to hold on to that job.

Yep, I killed it all because I said that :dunce: dipshit

How is it an opinion when you havent seen what Rivers can do in an NFL game, for a full game, and a starting game...as of NOW, Brees is the man, if Rivers gets that team to the playoffs with good numbers, I'll say it was a right move..at this point though, Brees is their QB, and no one could say Rivers is better because HE HASENT PLAYED.

Because the way he played in college? You do realize how different the NFL is from college right? I'm sure you could name a couple dozen players that were excellent in college but didnt show up in the NFL.

liquid jesus

03-02-2006, 08:52 PM

No, but i want them to release him. Brees would look pretty handsome in the Green & Gold.

this is the thing im afraid of, the packers have a shitload of money and i still don't think they are sold on aaron rodgers. If favre retires they could really look into brees. ITs really unlikely though

Wu-tang

03-02-2006, 11:39 PM

Congratulations...you just killed whatever credibility you had. You asked if people thought he could do better than Brees, so I say yes, I think he can/will because of the way he played in college, and you say, this isn't about opinion? Uh....what? I think Rivers has more tools that Brees and will easily go down as the better pro player. I think they played on getting Brees out of there earlier but after Rivers held out, Brees earned the job for a year, and not making the playoffs for a team like San Diego is not the best way to hold on to that job.
lol it wasn't Drew's fault they didn't get to the playoffs...it's the Charges coaching and managements fault.

Ex: They didn't start Antonio Gates against Dallas, a game that they barely lost and was one of the reasons they didn't make the playoffs this year.

Jimothy51

03-03-2006, 09:18 AM

Ex: They didn't start Antonio Gates against Dallas, a game that they barely lost and was one of the reasons they didn't make the playoffs this year.
Gates was suspended for that game because he was holding out of camp.

AsHopeDies

03-03-2006, 11:28 AM

Because the way he played in college? You do realize how different the NFL is from college right? I'm sure you could name a couple dozen players that were excellent in college but didnt show up in the NFL.

Yes, oddly enough, they predict the way a player will perform on one level based on how they performed in the previous level, crazy huh? And the list of players that were great in college and shitty in the pros is monumentally shorter then the list of players who were great in college and great in the pros. It's an opinion, and opinions are based on things, and opinions about how good a player is going to be in the NFL is based, in part, on how he did in college. By your "logic", why draft? Why bother scouting college players and games? I fully agree that it's a question mark, an unknown, right now. But you asked the simple question, Does anyone honestly think Rivers will be better than Brees? And I said yes, I do think that, based on the skills I have seen from each player. Shit man, your "logic" states that David Carr is better than Matt Leinart because he's started a game in the NFL. Is it possible that Carr will be better than Leinart? Yes, but do people think that? No. And why? Based on Carr's skills and the skills Leinart has shown in college.

Oh, and Wu-Tang, I wasn't saying it's Drew's fault they didn't get into the playoffs, but them not getting there is a strong argument to get Rivers in there. And there is no need to have them both. I mean, why stick with the guy who can't get you to playoffs. Maybe they put Rivers in and the whole team clicks and everyone plays better etc and they do make the playoffs. If you aren't getting the job done, making the playoffs, then it's time to change something up. Regardless of who's fault it is. You think it was Nomar's fault that the Sox never won a world series with him there? You think anyone thinks Cabrera is better then Nomar? But look at what happened when they got rid of him.

atreyu_2020

03-03-2006, 05:14 PM

Yes, oddly enough, they predict the way a player will perform on one level based on how they performed in the previous level, crazy huh? And the list of players that were great in college and shitty in the pros is monumentally shorter then the list of players who were great in college and great in the pros. It's an opinion, and opinions are based on things, and opinions about how good a player is going to be in the NFL is based, in part, on how he did in college. By your "logic", why draft? Why bother scouting college players and games? I fully agree that it's a question mark, an unknown, right now. But you asked the simple question, Does anyone honestly think Rivers will be better than Brees? And I said yes, I do think that, based on the skills I have seen from each player. Shit man, your "logic" states that David Carr is better than Matt Leinart because he's started a game in the NFL. Is it possible that Carr will be better than Leinart? Yes, but do people think that? No. And why? Based on Carr's skills and the skills Leinart has shown in college.

Carr is already better than Leinart, give him a line and he'd show you.

MusicIsDead

03-03-2006, 08:17 PM

Not even Drew Brees could fix that team.
Well see buddy. Wanna make a forum bet(quite possibly the coolest thing to do), that my lowly raiders will beat your superbowl champions next year?
Silver and black are back.

Wu-tang

03-03-2006, 09:53 PM

lol...Are you serious?

MusicIsDead

03-03-2006, 11:41 PM

lol...Are you serious?
Dead serious.

crocop

03-04-2006, 12:04 AM

Giants Suck

atreyu_2020

03-04-2006, 04:59 AM

Well see buddy. Wanna make a forum bet(quite possibly the coolest thing to do), that my lowly raiders will beat your superbowl champions next year?
Silver and black are back.

I want to know how the most pathetic excuse of a team is "back" after a miserable season with a horrible defense and an ungodly salary cap that just lost their best defensive player, along with no quarterback, no offensive line, no owner...and no coach are "back"..

You know they could beat the Steelers, one reason only I can think of, is the Steelers would take them lightly like they usually do with scrap teams, then make it close, or lose...usually happens, but if thats not the case, we shouldnt have any problem demolishing them.

Then again, you are part of the same group of people that thought the Collins/Moss duo would be the best duo in the league...

MusicIsDead

03-08-2006, 06:40 PM

I want to know how the most pathetic excuse of a team is "back" after a miserable season with a horrible defense and an ungodly salary cap that just lost their best defensive player, along with no quarterback, no offensive line, no owner...and no coach are "back"..

You know they could beat the Steelers, one reason only I can think of, is the Steelers would take them lightly like they usually do with scrap teams, then make it close, or lose...usually happens, but if thats not the case, we shouldnt have any problem demolishing them.

Then again, you are part of the same group of people that thought the Collins/Moss duo would be the best duo in the league...
Hahaahaha. You will see next year. The defense was awesome last year, many goalline stands and they played with pride. It was the offense that underachieved. 50% chance of picking up culpeper, and if not we still have Walter ready to go. I'd rather a high school janitor than collins. Al davis is one of the best owners in the leauge, if not best. And definetly the most pimp. He without a doubt stole randy moss. And art shell was one of the best raider coaches ever and is very inspiring. The raiders have all of the talent needed to be successful, they just need someone to light a fire under their asses. Obviously norv turner isnt the best guy to do that.

And yes I agree,they could beat the steelers. Not only could they, but they will. And your excuse if your boys lose is that they take it easy on scrap teams? You shouldnt be worried about your superbowl champions being beat by "the most pathetic excuse of a team."

And dont put words into my mouth. Not once, have I ever supported Kerry Collins in any way. I hoped for him to lead my team to victory, but right from the get go I hated him and wanted him cut right away. The moment gannon went down I cringed because I knew it's over.

EDIT: and what the fuck do you mean, just lost our best defensive player? In my opinion Charles woodson, derrick burgess, danny clark, kirk morrison, stuart schgurt(sp), and warren sapp are a little better than ted washington. To each his own, I guess?:squint:

wsuwarrior

03-08-2006, 07:49 PM

youre not serious are you?

ypsidan04

03-08-2006, 08:02 PM

All I know is, you've got two of the best quarterbacks the college game has ever seen. Both are the best ever in their respective conferences. I dont care about the Chargers, but Brees is cool.

MusicIsDead

03-08-2006, 09:25 PM

youre not serious are you?

About what?

Big_Jake

03-08-2006, 09:50 PM

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/SD/9251811

As the deadline for giving Brees a contract grows ever nearer, he becomes ever so much farther from being a Charger.

He's such a great QB and I don't think Phil Rivers can get us to the playoffs.

So what do you guys think, should the Chargers keep him or dump him?

What the fuck do you mean "us". Since when have you been a part of the fucking team. I can understand bieng a fan and all, but actually thinking your one of team is nuts, and i thought computer geeks were smart.

atreyu_2020

03-08-2006, 11:42 PM

Hahaahaha. You will see next year. The defense was awesome last year, many goalline stands and they played with pride. It was the offense that underachieved. 50% chance of picking up culpeper, and if not we still have Walter ready to go. I'd rather a high school janitor than collins. Al davis is one of the best owners in the leauge, if not best. And definetly the most pimp. He without a doubt stole randy moss. And art shell was one of the best raider coaches ever and is very inspiring. The raiders have all of the talent needed to be successful, they just need someone to light a fire under their asses. Obviously norv turner isnt the best guy to do that.

Al Davis is one of the best owners of the league...I know you have to be smoking something.

And yes I agree,they could beat the steelers. Not only could they, but they will. And your excuse if your boys lose is that they take it easy on scrap teams? You shouldnt be worried about your superbowl champions being beat by "the most pathetic excuse of a team."[/QUOTE]

Well if you have watched any Steeler games, mostly teams who arent that great they do take lightly, it's been proven many times, the Raiders could be an acception......when did I say I was worried?

And dont put words into my mouth. Not once, have I ever supported Kerry Collins in any way. I hoped for him to lead my team to victory, but right from the get go I hated him and wanted him cut right away. The moment gannon went down I cringed because I knew it's over.[/QUOTE]

Mmmmhmmm, admit it, Collins/Moss was the SAVIOR of the the Raiders.

EDIT: and what the fuck do you mean, just lost our best defensive player? In my opinion Charles woodson, derrick burgess, danny clark, kirk morrison, stuart schgurt(sp), and warren sapp are a little better than ted washington. To each his own, I guess?:squint:

Hey ummm...boy, you do realize the Raiders cut Charles Woodson? (Whom was their best defensive player) You're awful confident your pathetic team will beat the Superbowl champs for not even knowing anything about your team.

MusicIsDead

03-09-2006, 12:25 AM

Al Davis is one of the best owners of the league...I know you have to be smoking something.
He is. He's been all about the team from day 1, all that al davis cares about is winning. Occasionally he has to get the fuck out of the way, but he practically stole the most exciting player in football.

Well if you have watched any Steeler games, mostly teams who arent that great they do take lightly, it's been proven many times, the Raiders could be an acception......when did I say I was worried?
Any team will take it semi lightly on a shittier team but they will still play to win.. You're right, you never did say you were "worried" but you stated that the raiders "could" beat the steelers. And thats a pretty shitty excuse that they took it easy, if the raiders win. There is still a raiders-steelers rivalry, and I really dont see either team taking it lightly.

Mmmmhmmm, admit it, Collins/Moss was the SAVIOR of the the Raiders.
No. Collins is the worst QB in the league. Under no circumstances will he ever achieve anything. He had one good year in New York, and even Giants fans will tell you that it had nothing to do with collins. Looking forward to a possible Culpepper/Moss again, and mark my words "that will be the SAVIOR of the Raiders." If that doesnt pan out, we have a great upcoming QB in Walter.

Hey ummm...boy, you do realize the Raiders cut Charles Woodson? (Whom was their best defensive player) You're awful confident your pathetic team will beat the Superbowl champs for not even knowing anything about your team.
Hey ummm...boy he wasnt cut. He didnt get the franchise tag, but al davis loves this man. He will not him slip away. Its possible he will leave, but he wasnt cut yet, and yeah I do know a lot about my team.

atreyu_2020

03-09-2006, 12:32 AM

Al Davis is one of the best owners of the league...I know you have to be smoking something.
He is. He's been all about the team from day 1, all that al davis cares about is winning. Occasionally he has to get the fuck out of the way, but he practically stole the most exciting player in football.

Yes his choices in coaches are just superb he has to fire them after a few years because they are great.

LT is the most exciting player in football, Moss can run his straight fast routes all he wants, he's not even in the top 10 of most exciting players.

win.. You're right, you never did say you were "worried" but you stated that the raiders "could" beat the steelers. And thats a pretty shitty excuse that they took it easy, if the raiders win. There is still a raiders-steelers rivalry, and I really dont see either team taking it lightly.

Yep, such a hated rivalry that Tommy Maddox is 2-0 against them..

He wasnt cut. He didnt get the franchise tag, but al davis loves this man. He will not him slip away. Its possible he will leave, but he wasnt cut yet, and yeah I do know a lot about my team.

Are you sure he wont let him slip away? If Woodson isnt over 35 and washed up then I dont think Davis will come near him.

He will not be a Raider next year...he knows getting away from Oakland will be good for him, some team is going to give him a big contract and he'll grab it, kiss him goodbye.

MusicIsDead

03-09-2006, 12:41 AM

Yes his choices in coaches are just superb he has to fire them after a few years because they are great.
Tom Flores, John Madden, Art Shell, Jon Gruden...any of them ring a bell? I'll admit over the past decade we have had more than our fair share of "yes men" but Art knows what hes doing.

LT is the most exciting player in football, Moss can run his straight fast routes all he wants, he's not even in the top 10 of most exciting players.

:lol: Alright, name 10 players that are more exciting than randy moss.

Yep, such a hated rivalry that Tommy Maddox is 2-0 against them..

Are you fucking retarded? Admitted, lately there hasnt been much of a rivalry,but theres still one there and both teams play hard in a rivalry.

Are you sure he wont let him slip away? If Woodson isnt over 35 and washed up then I dont think Davis will come near him.

He will not be a Raider next year...he knows getting away from Oakland will be good for him, some team is going to give him a big contract and he'll grab it, kiss him goodbye.
Woodson has almost slipped away twice and Al has signed him. The defense is finally starting to gel and woodson said he really likes our DC Rob Ryan. I'd say chances are 60-40 that he stays.

atreyu_2020

03-09-2006, 01:14 AM

Tom Flores, John Madden, Art Shell, Jon Gruden...any of them ring a bell? I'll admit over the past decade we have had more than our fair share of "yes men" but Art knows what hes doing.

Right, I'm not talking about the land before time when the Raiders were worth a damn, I'm talking when it matters..now, and in the past decade your owner has been one of the worst in the league.

:lol: Alright, name 10 players that are more exciting than randy moss.

LT, Shawn Alexander, Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, TO, Dwight Freeney, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Dante Hall, Larry Johnson...wait thats more than 10. I told you, Moss isnt that exciting of a player, he doesnt go through the middle, he doesnt play hard every game, he's fast...and runs straight routes while making an incredible catch here and then...Brandon Lloyd also makes incredible catches, he's not that much of an exciting player, and he sure as hell isnt as exciting as the receivers I mentioned, or players.

Are you fucking retarded? Admitted, lately there hasnt been much of a rivalry,but theres still one there and both teams play hard in a rivalry.

Please, it's not a league popular rivalry, and do you know why? BECAUSE IT'S THE RAIDERS...you do realize that everyone in the league, and league fans, except for a few homers, know the Raiders are one of the most pathetic teams in the NFL. It's not a rivalry because it's not consistent, especially not like the Cleveland Ravens/Pittsburgh Steelers...where the Ravens actually beat the Steelers...your team is 0-2 against Tommy Maddox, saying something.

Woodson has almost slipped away twice and Al has signed him. The defense is finally starting to gel and woodson said he really likes our DC Rob Ryan. I'd say chances are 60-40 that he stays.

Third time is a charm, I guarentee Woodson will not be a Raider.

I cant believe I'm still having a discussion with some homer that "knows" the Raiders will beat the Steelers next season, it's almost sad on my behalf.

In fact, the only reason that you even say the Raiders will beat the Steelers is simple, you have nothing to lose, you know why? Your a RAIDER fan...there is nothing you can say to anyone to convince people that the Raiders will beat the Steelers, the Steelers are better on both sides of the ball, and the only way they could beat them is if the Steelers beat themselves, and that is the only possibilty. The Steelers are nearly 3 times the team, better coaches, better players, better owner, better almost everything.

atreyu_2020

04-28-2006, 01:02 AM

Right, I'm not talking about the land before time when the Raiders were worth a damn, I'm talking when it matters..now, and in the past decade your owner has been one of the worst in the league.

LT, Shawn Alexander, Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, TO, Dwight Freeney, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Dante Hall, Larry Johnson...wait thats more than 10. I told you, Moss isnt that exciting of a player, he doesnt go through the middle, he doesnt play hard every game, he's fast...and runs straight routes while making an incredible catch here and then...Brandon Lloyd also makes incredible catches, he's not that much of an exciting player, and he sure as hell isnt as exciting as the receivers I mentioned, or players.

Please, it's not a league popular rivalry, and do you know why? BECAUSE IT'S THE RAIDERS...you do realize that everyone in the league, and league fans, except for a few homers, know the Raiders are one of the most pathetic teams in the NFL. It's not a rivalry because it's not consistent, especially not like the Cleveland Ravens/Pittsburgh Steelers...where the Ravens actually beat the Steelers...your team is 0-2 against Tommy Maddox, saying something.

Third time is a charm, I guarentee Woodson will not be a Raider.

I cant believe I'm still having a discussion with some homer that "knows" the Raiders will beat the Steelers next season, it's almost sad on my behalf.

In fact, the only reason that you even say the Raiders will beat the Steelers is simple, you have nothing to lose, you know why? Your a RAIDER fan...there is nothing you can say to anyone to convince people that the Raiders will beat the Steelers, the Steelers are better on both sides of the ball, and the only way they could beat them is if the Steelers beat themselves, and that is the only possibilty. The Steelers are nearly 3 times the team, better coaches, better players, better owner, better almost everything.

Can you now shut the fuck up MusicIsDead? :cool: