Some funny emails

[StXFoo]

I received this email from my roommates mom, surprisingly enough, and thought i'd like to share the occurence with everyone. Nothings been edited. It appears that it is 6821 characters too long - thus, the two posts.

Initial Email from my roommates MOM:

Hi, I'm Nick's mom. Could you please return the
fridge to the kitchen area of the dorm room so that
Nick and Jake can use it too?

Thanks.

Kendra

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My initial response:

Mrs. Hildbold,

The fridge is in no longer in the kitchen area for a few reasons. First of
all, I have no problem returning it to that area whatsoever. Nick (nor
Jake) have made mention to me that they wanted to use it at any point
during their entire time being in room 545. More importantly, the move was made for serious reasons. One, I mentioned to them that it was all right to
drink my soda that I have purchased with my own money, so long as they
replace it with soda that they purchase. For the first month, both Nick
and Jake drank all of my soda and never once placed anything in the fridge. I
mentioned this fact to them several times, Nick's response was that "he was
lazy and that he would be getting some this(referring to that upcoming)
weekend." This never happened. Rather then getting angry, I posted a sign
on the fridge (since your son and his room mate keep strange hours and are
rarely around), stating clearly, to not drink any of my soda or to use my
water without asking.

Several of my friends witnessed this and I am sure your son can attest to
the same. And yet, surprisingly enough, many of my drinks kept disappearing,
with the sign still on the fridge. During the week following my posting of
the sign, I left 8 marked cans of soda in the fridge, and all of them were
drank. While I don't know who drank them, I do know that your son had
friends over several nights that week and ordered pizza (while prank
calling my friend who lives down the hall) and the next morning, empty cans were present in the common area (along with all the trash left from the previous night). So, at that point, since nothing else entered the area of the
fridge, meaning they never put anything in it, I assumed that they were not
using it, and rather than losing money that I work 5 days a week for, I
would protect my possesions. Ever since the move has been made, none of my
drinks are disappearing. Interesting how that is.

Similarly, I would appreciate it if there is a problem, that Nick or Jake
talk to me.

Vaibhav Shukla

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Her counter response:

Nick has given me a different story. In the past, I would purchase items
for Nick and Jake to share and so would Jake's mother. We have never had
any problems until they moved in with you. I know for a fact that he has
been keeping items in his room and I personally purchase the items that he
consumes.

Please put the fridge where it belongs or I will be forced to ask the
housing department to get involved.

I further expect there to be no further arguments or problems regarding the
use of the "living room" areas.

I would expect all of you to be able to communicate and "play fairly" from
this point forward.

Kendra Hildbold

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My reply:

Clearly, there is a conflict of truth here, and frankly, I don't need to
defend myself to you. If at any point any of my stuff is damaged, missing,
abused or used in a manner other than specified, I will be sure to let the
appropriate authorities know about your son's actions and habits that
conflict with the housing agreement that they signed to live in this Honors'
dorm. In that agreement, it is specified to not damage or harm any of the
supplied furnishings. There are countless stains on the sofas and the floor
that are now in the common room. While I don't put the blame on anyone, it
is not my duty as the elder resident, to clean up after their messes that
they choose not to clean up. While lately, they have been out drinking with
their friends and not mussing up the common room, I cannot make any
references to any occurrences in the past two weeks. I hope this is a trend
that continues.

Similarly, your son HAS made a reference to the reasoning as to why they
left Calhoun, and that it was due to problems that occured in their previous
place of residence. And once again, problems are occuring where they live.
Please realize that I have accomodated them in allowing them to move in, the
resident advisor did ask me if it would be a problem to have two new
residents move into my room. I have chosen not to involve him in these
problems, because frankly, I was unaware of there being a problem.


On a final note, if you did purchase those items, why did they resort to
taking mine? Please do not talk to me with contempt, and do not threaten
me. It appears that you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. If
there is a problem that we, as dorm mates, cannot solve, we'll make sure to
involve you as soon as we can.

Vaibhav Shukla

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A letter sent to the housing director, Andrew Naylor (fwd'd to me by her):

Andrew,

Hello. I hate to ask for your help once again, but I feel that while Nick's
room mate showed early signs of being wonderful, he has since become hostile
towards Nick, Jake and now me.

I made a simple request that he return the fridge, which has been missing
from the kitchen area for weeks, back to the kitchen area so that it can be
used by all. I recv'd 2 very rude emails from him. I do not appreciate his
tone or attitude towards me!! Nor do I appreciate his accusations with
regards to Nick. I am aghast at his boldness to treat an elder with such
disrespect and it only confirms the hostile environment that Nick is living
in.

Andrew, you and I both know why Nick left Calhoun and for this person to
claim that he knows anything is ridiculous. Can I ask for your advise or
intervention yet again? I feel like this student is unable to reason and is
not happy about sharing what he perceives to be his room. It is my
understanding that this room is shared by all the occupants and each and
every one of them should be kind and respectful of the others needs and
things. It is my further understanding that the fridge/micro is provided by
UC for the entire room and each occupant.

Thanks so much for your help, again. I am just sick that this student has
taken this stance and attitude. Feel free to contact me to discuss.

Kendra Hildbold
513 673.1937 mobile

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An email sent to me from her immidiately after the fwd:

I have forwarded your emails to the UC Housing Department. I will work
directly w/ them to correct this situation.

My final words to you would be to respect others and your elders. This
could have been as simple as returning the fridge. I do not appreciate your
accusations regarding my son. Unless UC tells me otherwise, you do not own
the space and are required to share. I am sorry that you do not enjoy Nick
as a room mate and I look forward to the housing department resolving this
issue by the spring quarter. As far as why Nick left Calhoun, you have no
idea why and quite frankly it is none of your business!

Kendra Hildbold

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[StXFoo]

Zach Chaney's Response to the situation.

Mrs. Kendra,

My name is Zach Chaney, and I live on the 5th floor of Turner Hall. I've lived here for the past 2 school years, and I met your son, Nick, and his roommate Jake when they moved in during the Winter Quarter. I understand that there is some conflict right now, and I hope that I am able to shed some light on the situation.

I've known Vaib, Nick's elder roommate, since my Sophomore year in high school. Vaib and I have been good friends for some time now, and we lived on the same floor for the past 2 years here in Turner. Last year, Vaib's room had 4 people in it, and there were no conflicts whatsoever. Vaib and James Morris continued to live in the same room this year, and again, there had been no conflicts whatsoever. In fact, there were no conflicts until your son Nick and his friend Jake moved into the room. I cannot stress enough how much that is true: there were NO conflicts whatsoever UNTIL your son and his friend moved into 545. Vaib gets along with everyone on the floor because he is an honest, level-headed guy. That's why I was concerned when I started hearing about the problems that were happening after Nick and Jake had moved in. Initially, when I met Nick and Jake, they both came across as decent guys. We all exchanged cell phone numbers and talked whenever we saw each other. After about a week, things started getting strange. Without prompt, your son Nick decided it would be funny to make a prank call, and chose me as the target. He called and acted like he was trying to order a pizza from me, seemingly thinking that I worked at Donato's. I promptly told him that I was NOT Donato's and hung up without losing my temper. Coincidentally, Nick did the same stunt to my roommate that night. Then the next day, Vaib told me about the incidents involving the refrigerator in their common room. He told me that Nick and Jake were taking his food and drink without permission, and leaving trash for him to clean up. Now I have known Vaib for some time, and I know that he isn't unreasonable about his food and drinks. We have both shared our food and/or drink with each other, but always asking before doing so. However, it is obvious that Nick and Jake were taking Vaib's items and leaving them sitting around the room for Vaib to clean up.

As if theft weren't enough reason for Vaib to take reasonable action, there are other things you should be aware about. Within the first week of they moving in, Nick and Jake BOTH were seeming rather suspicious. One night when we had a couple of friends over to Vaib's room, we noticed that Nick and Jake had stuffed a towel in the crack under their room door. As if that wasn't suspicious enough, the room hasn't smelled the same since. Not only does it smell like alcohol and/or marijuana, but it doesn't help when Nick and Jake's friend gets sick in their shower. Not only is this completely unsanitary, it's flat out ridiculous. Nick and Jake have repeatedly had friends over to their room at unreasonable hours of the night. Nick, Jake, and their friends have obviously been intoxicated on multiple occasions. The first time that we suspected this, Vaib asked Nick about this. He was concerned that Nick had been drinking and driving, and Nick used the ever-so-cliche "I only had one" response. Yes, we have good reason to believe that your son was DRINKING AND DRIVING, UNDERAGE AS IT IS. Please, read that sentence again and make sure it sinks in.

Vaib told me about the recent situation involving the emails sent back and forth between him and you. After discussing it with 4 other people tonight, most of whom have met Nick and Jake on multiple occasions, we feel that Vaib did not act out of line in any way. The simple truth is this, Nick and Jake were stealing Vaib's possessions, and Vaib took action to prevent this from happening. Nick and Jake didn't even use the fridge for weeks, so it's not like they were losing anything anyway. And once you requested that he put it back, he did just that. Also, I understand that you and Jake's mother buy food and drink for your sons, so I have to ask, why would they be stealing from Vaib anyway? Why is it that none of Nick and Jake’s actions make any sense?

From this incident, I feel like you may have the wrong impression of how Vaib treated Nick and Jake. As I pointed out earlier, both myself and Vaib introduced ourselves to Nick and Jake, and for a short while, we all got along rather well. Once again, I cannot stress enough the fact that Nick and Jake were the ones to instigate these incidents, and no one else is at fault. Vaib has been nothing short of absolutely accommodating to Nick and Jake. He has tolerated their misbehavior and acted reasonably. James Morris, Vaib's previous roommate who will be returning for the Spring Quarter, was NOT happy to hear that he will have roommates who make a mess and do not clean up after themselves.

I'm also concerned about the fact that Nick never once asked Vaib about why he moved the fridge. It seems like an 18 or 19 year old guy should be able to talk to his roommate about something so trivial as this. It also surprises me that he didn't go to his RA or his RC, like he should have when this first happened. Nick never contacted anyone even remotely related to the Housing Department. It seems like Nick took the most indirect way to solve this problem, which was to have someone else do it for him. Please, correct me if I'm wrong about this, but wouldn't it have been much more effective and faster if Nick had just talked to someone in the Housing Department, instead of going to you, who talked to Vaib, who responded to you, who, even though the problem had been resolved, took this to the Housing Department after the fact?

Lastly, I'm surprised at the way that you treated Vaib in your emails. Vaib explained the situation to you, and solved the problem promptly, but it seems as if you made things worse by dragging things out. The way I see it, things went like this:
-Nick and Jake moved in, seemed normal
-Nick and Jake then stole Vaib's things
-Vaib talked to them about this, but the problem persisted, and Vaib took measures to prevent this from happening again
-Nick complained about missing something that he never used
-Nick talked to you about the problem at some point
-You emailed Vaib about the problem
-Vaib fixed the problem and explained the situation to you
-You explained what Nick told you
-Vaib explained the discrepancies between the truth and Nick's story
-The Housing Department is now involved in a resolved problem because Vaib is "hostile" as you put it
Please, let me know what your understanding of these events is, so that we can solve any discrepancies.

I can vouch for Vaib and I assure you, he told you the truth about the situation. I would know as well, because I have seen Nick and Jake on many occasions, acting immature and disrespecting the personal property of others. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would vouch for Vaib. I can think of at least 5 other people that would certainly recall accounts of Nick and Jake's unacceptable behavior in the dorm. Many of those people are fellow residents that are unhappy with how Nick and Jake are treating others around them.

I want to make sure you realize this again, there were NO conflicts UNTIL Nick and Jake moved in. To be blunt, your son and his friend have been acting like children, for no apparent reason, making the environment in the room uncomfortable, stealing their roommates possessions, acting obnoxious at all hours of the night, doing illegal activities repeatedly, and not cleaning up after themselves. In general, Nick and Jake are disgusting slobs that are disliked by the majority of residents in the vicinity. I have no idea why they moved out of Calhoun, but I hope you take time to consider the POSSIBILITY that your sons WERE the reason they moved out of Calhoun and ARE the reason for this unnecessary conflict.

The last thing that I have to say is this: I find it absolutely ridiculous that you judged Vaib so quickly. You think that he is "hostile" when he was being reasonable. He only took action when he had talked to Nick about the problem, but the problem persisted. Please note that your son NEVER talked to Vaib about the missing fridge, so it's no wonder this conflict has taken this long to resolve. For Vaib's sake, I hope you two never meet in person.

I hope you realize that all I did was affirm what Vaib has already told you. Being his friend, I felt that I had no choice but to back him up when someone quickly misinterpreted this acts of reason for hostile actions against you and your son. In the future, if there is a problem, it seems obvious that Nick should take some action before using his parents to do it for him.

I'm sure that I will hear from you about this, and if you would like to discuss the situation in detail before jumping to more conclusions, you can freely contact me at your convenience. In fact, I insist that you contact more people before you decide to take action about something when the only "knowledge" you have are the lies that your son told you.

Truthfully,

Zach Chaney

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I just thought i'd add: if you ever meet zach, he is a god amongst mere mortals, and should be respected as such.

[murc]

Typical momma and her perfect little angel garbage. I need not say more. But I must comment on your bud zach's letter... I absolutely love the way he started out all calm, then bashed the hell out of those little twirps. I'd love to see her response to that.

Petition for an eviction. If this problem has yet to be solved.

[Predator04]

ya cant wait for more:P

[Godlike]

Pretty intense letter from Zach. Where is this school at?

[Zach]

School is at UC, University of Cincinnati. These 2 kids are the biggest douche bags we've had in the building in 2 years.

[Zach]

So we talked to the guy at the Housing Department, and he basically asked us to hold off on any more emailing until Housing got involved, which they definitely would do. But the mom emailed me back, told me it was none of my business (despite the fact that his actions affect me too) and that she didn't need to hear my opinion. So she wants to hear the story from one person and instantly deny it rather than have multiple people account for these 2 kids' actions. Yeah, that makes sense:rolleyes:. We'll see what happens with them.