PC graphics already exceed the next gen consoles

[kududoodoop]

this is the game CRYsis...from the creators of Far CRY (get it) this game is using the CRY engine 2 (get it by now?), made by the company CRYtech(you better fucking get it by now).:boink:

makes me salivate over the 800 dollar GPU i'm gonna have to buy. This is not the same trailer from last year.

CRYSIS (http://www.gamersreports.com/video.php?id=1143577372&g=810&ex=avi)

[ASSPOP]

wow.. this looks nice. lol.. cant wait.. :bigwink:

[Fullscale]

it doesnt work.. try again

[chezfez]

it does work and looks awesome.

Crysis eh....<3'd farcry.

[mO 64 StAnG 06]

I thought PC's have always had better graphics then the consoles...?

[el_real_madrazo]

i want a world war 1 game using this engine to be released for pc, it would be awesome. you would have to piss on the machine gun to keep them from overheating, run through corpse ridden trenches wearing a gas mask, etc. it would be the ultimate ww1 experience.

[mO 64 StAnG 06]

/\ Great Idea! Don't forget having to wait hours in a trench infested with dieseased rat's, muddy and flooded from rain, and then at the end of the round you have change your socks before you get trench foot.

WWI doesn't sound appealing to me at all, I still want to see a game involving the Korean War, that would be badass!

[el_real_madrazo]

yeah, korea or ww1 for me, something that really hasn't been seen much. theres a lot of focus on world war 2, with the medal of honor series, but it would be cool to fly one of those vintage ww1 planes and all that, hell, maybe even the revolutionary war, gotta fight those red coats aye.

[kududoodoop]

or do what battlefield is doing

TEH FUT0RZZ!!1!!11!!

BATTLEFILED 2142 HELLZ YEAH (no really it's actually coming out this year)

[kududoodoop]

I thought PC's have always had better graphics then the consoles...?

not when the new batch of consoles come out, but with this PC really takes the lead, but not everyone can afford an 800 dollar graphics card. it's like buying to premium 360's.

[wackjob]

my friends aRE into GUN, but i personally don't like it
there is a civil war game coming out
bf3 will be cool but i hate robots as its more sci fi gaming then real
face it, ww2 was huge, the battles were epic, and the weapons were intense. Thats why ww2 is popular.

although IMHO vietnam iraq and korean war would make a good game.

[VoXiSo]

gotta get that game

[Amadeus]

Exceeds next-gen consoles, huh?

Did you know that this's gonna be on both PC, and Xbox 360?

http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1396/Crysis/


And, usually, with games like Oblivion, the games look better (by allowing both HDR, and Anti-Aliasing, whereas the PC version only allows you to pick one, or the other, for example), since they're fully optimised for the console, since it's the same identical system, and they can take full advantage of it.


Regardless, this is a beautiful game. ..I especially love it when they show how the game'll actually look when you're playing it, where you're shooting at the soldiers in the middle of the jungle, and you see full lighting effects and natural shadowing EVERYWHERE in the game. :boink:

[Holy Cheese]

I'd rather upgrade a PC than keep buying consoles every year.

[tripb19]

Yes, we get it, PCs have better graphics than consoles, you PC gamers win, you can play your gorgeous MMORPGs for 19 hours a day while I play Mario Kart for 1 hour before I have to go to work.

[baldzone]

halo 3 is gonna take a shit on that game

[AxeMurderer]

halo 3 is gonna take a shit on that game
LOL!!! Yeah right!!! ROTFL!!!

[Redheaven]

LOL!!! Yeah right!!! ROTFL!!!

yeah, it is

[Thomson]

halo 3 is gonna take a shit on that game

Hmmmmm... i didnt think it would be long b4 all the xbox or PS fan boys start posting stupid shit.

[zoomos]

PC's will always have better graphics, but consoles must be compacted with the ability to cool during heavy game play and be under 400 bucks


I'm sure microsoft or sony could make a gaming system for 10k and it would just be sweet as fuck! but who can't afford it?

[Amadeus]

I'd rather upgrade a PC than keep buying consoles every year.


Next-gen consoles come out every 4-5 years, not every year. For the price of a good video card, you can buy the Xbox 360, or PS3. For the price of 2 gigs of RAM needed to play F.E.A.R 2: The Soich for More Money, you can get a Nintendo Revolution.


In order to build a capable gaming rig yourself on Pricewatch (the cheapest way), you have to spend 827 dollars for everything, of course that's not including the case, or monitor.

[AxeMurderer]

You need a $175 graphics card (or less) to play FEAR. That's all. That 175 dollar graphics card will play next generation games for some time to come too, just not on max settings. I space my purchases out to every 3 years on graphics cards (at around $200). That's a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a new Console ever 4-5 years and the addition memory packs, controllers, add-ons and so on that's not included with the console. Computers are cheaper, faster, and better.

[ruffle607]

go outside n00bs

[5.9_sniper]

consoles will always be ahead in my opinion, but this game does look really nice

[Lividum]

Damn. That game looks very awesome. Makes me wish I could afford a better computer right now.

[hithur]

will that game work with an Nvidia 6800 GT

[AxeMurderer]

Yes, but it won't be able to play it with all the bells and whistles I imagine.

[CowHater101]

you guys should check out project offset for good graphics and cooleness

www.projectoffset.com

[kududoodoop]

you guys should check out project offset for good graphics and cooleness

www.projectoffset.com

old as hell and no gameplay so fuck it.

[HaVoK]

halo 3 is gonna take a shit on that game

HALO IS DEAD!!! Halo CE > ALL

[theFBeye]

For anyone who missed this vid.... it's badass. Can't wait to shell out 3k on a new computer to play the game :(

[SyDias]

Console games are devekioed on Computers. That said, the computer will always be greater than the console.

[milthaar]

yea sure but while you buy a 800$ gpu and a 2000$ computer ile be playing games that look better or just s good on a 500$ ps3

[323miklo]

PC RULES

consoles are for 13 year olds hyped up on sugar

[kududoodoop]

yea sure but while you buy a 800$ gpu and a 2000$ computer ile be playing games that look better or just s good on a 500$ ps3

first of fall ps3 and 360 are the same, this game is only on computer and we've never even seen Ps3 footage so you are an idiot, Ps3's price is not confirmed

[milthaar]

first of fall ps3 and 360 are the same, this game is only on computer and we've never even seen Ps3 footage so you are an idiot, Ps3's price is not confirmed
even so you think that the ps3 is gona be 2800$? (prob gona give some dumbass reason why it will be ) and ps3 and 360 aint the same ps3 is by far the most powerfull consol it has the most powerfull processor in the world yes even more powerfull then any pc to date

[timberwolf]

Pfft......PC gaming is going the way of the dinosaur. Go to any EB or Gamestop and you will see the itsy bitsy PC gaming section way in the back of the store. Eventually PC gaming will be all but extinct.

And have fun trying to run the newest super graphically intense games on an ordinary PC. You have to spend thousands to get a system that can even run those games, and getting playable framerates is another story.

It's a fact that consoles absolutely rule the gaming industry. Consoles are the present and future of gaming.

[timberwolf]

even so you think that the ps3 is gona be 2800$? (prob gona give some dumbass reason why it will be ) and ps3 and 360 aint the same ps3 is by far the most powerfull consol it has the most powerfull processor in the world yes even more powerfull then any pc to date

It is well known that the 360 and PS3 are equal in power.

[crazyjames1233]

Pfft......PC gaming is going the way of the dinosaur. Go to any EB or Gamestop and you will see the itsy bitsy PC gaming section way in the back of the store. Eventually PC gaming will be all but extinct.

And have fun trying to run the newest super graphically intense games on an ordinary PC. You have to spend thousands to get a system that can even run those games, and getting playable framerates is another story.

It's a fact that consoles absolutely rule the gaming industry. Consoles are the present and future of gaming.


as long as personal computers exist(and they arent goin anywhere) computer games will always have a place, it doesnt matter if some stores arent focusing on them as much now cause a lot of games you can simply buy online and download directly onto your computer. and not all new games require really really badass graphics cards. even if you have a ghetto pc you can still play lots of awesome games, all you have to do is turn down the graphics and mess with them a little. my friend played half life 2 on his pc with a 64mb graphics card and other kinda weak specs other than his ram(768) at 800x600 resolution and it got a decent framerate. and it doesnt take thousands to but a good system if you know where to look.

[kududoodoop]

as long as personal computers exist(and they arent goin anywhere) computer games will always have a place, it doesnt matter if some stores arent focusing on them as much now cause a lot of games you can simply buy online and download directly onto your computer. and not all new games require really really badass graphics cards. even if you have a ghetto pc you can still play lots of awesome games, all you have to do is turn down the graphics and mess with them a little. my friend played half life 2 on his pc with a 64mb graphics card and other kinda weak specs other than his ram(768) at 800x600 resolution and it got a decent framerate. and it doesnt take thousands to but a good system if you know where to look.

they just don't get it, i'll be playing battlefield 2 in the meantime, 64 person multiplayer, SHOVE IT CONSOLES! i still like my 360 though, seeing as how i can't run oblivion on a 5950 ultra which is quite rediculous.

[Kinerry]

Of course PCs exceed consoles
How else would the develop games for them???

[milthaar]

It is well known that the 360 and PS3 are equal in power.
such bullshit 360 has 15 terafops ps3 has 35 teraflops and the ps3 has the cell

[TriggerOfDemise]

this is the game CRYsis...from the creators of Far CRY (get it) this game is using the CRY engine 2 (get it by now?), made by the company CRYtech(you better fucking get it by now).:boink:

makes me salivate over the 800 dollar GPU i'm gonna have to buy. This is not the same trailer from last year.

CRYSIS (http://www.gamersreports.com/video.php?id=1143577372&g=810&ex=avi)

i'll agree that PC graphics will always eventually exceed consoles, but what makes you think the next gen console, especially ps3 can't produce those graphics? those graphics didn't really wow me that much.

[emoisgay]

pc's infact will always dominate consules why else do you think consules are trying to be more and more like like PC's, 1 simple reasson Cause most dumb asses dont know shit about a pc so they dont get to experince the best games like we do, so they make consule for those inferior gamers of the consule world.

[kledster]

of course pc graphics already exceed next gen consoles. halo 3 for the 360 is not going to be anything special. hell, by the time H3 comes out it will already look ancient on the 360 compared to pc's.

[kkevvy]

Cna you imagine having a force feedback mouse and a subwoofer as that huge robot beatle thing screams?

ahh, I loved farcry.

[doodsaq]

Cna you imagine having a force feedback mouse and a subwoofer as that huge robot beatle thing screams?


Not really, ya fuckin' nerd.

[kududoodoop]

i'll agree that PC graphics will always eventually exceed consoles, but what makes you think the next gen console, especially ps3 can't produce those graphics? those graphics didn't really wow me that much.

because ps3 and 360 are the same, ps3 is not any better.

if those didn't wow you, you need an eye examination.

[timberwolf]

such bullshit 360 has 15 terafops ps3 has 35 teraflops and the ps3 has the cell

That is all theoretical mumbo jumbo. If anything, the 360 has a slight edge because of more bandwidth. But it is well known that both consoles will be equal when in comes to real world performance.

[Dayve]

Consoles will always be behind PCs, not the other way around. Console games are basically run and gun, completed in 2 hours and no replayability, apart from a few adventure games like the final fantasy series and one or two horror games, the rest are mindless shooting with no replayability. Multiplayer games on consoles are usually limited to about 8 people... And aiming without auto-aim help with a joypad is very difficult and frustrating.

PC games however, most have unlimited replayability due to the fact that most can be played over the internet in multiplayer, most shoot em ups can be played with 64 people in one single map and the games are more complex than their console versions. Face it, consoles are for kids who want to kill nazis in mindless shooting un-replayable games like MoH...

Now i'm not racist against consoles, my all time favourite game is on a console, (final fantasy 7) but it's also on the PC...

PCROX... And wtf was the big deal about HALO? It was a mindless shoot em up with no storyline...

[timberwolf]

Consoles will always be behind PCs, not the other way around. Console games are basically run and gun, completed in 2 hours and no replayability, apart from a few adventure games like the final fantasy series and one or two horror games, the rest are mindless shooting with no replayability. Multiplayer games on consoles are usually limited to about 8 people... And aiming without auto-aim help with a joypad is very difficult and frustrating.

PC games however, most have unlimited replayability due to the fact that most can be played over the internet in multiplayer, most shoot em ups can be played with 64 people in one single map and the games are more complex than their console versions. Face it, consoles are for kids who want to kill nazis in mindless shooting un-replayable games like MoH...

Now i'm not racist against consoles, my all time favourite game is on a console, (final fantasy 7) but it's also on the PC...

PCROX... And wtf was the big deal about HALO? It was a mindless shoot em up with no storyline...

Maybe limited replayability used to be the case with consoles, but not anymore. Xbox Live offers all the multiplayer experience that PCs do, and it's better than 99% of PC online gaming servers. Also RPGs with lots of depth are coming to consoles now too. Just look at Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion, it's arguably the best RPG ever made, and it was made for the Xbox 360 and was ported to the PC. Oblivion looks better and runs better on the 360. So your argument, that PC games have more replayability, holds no weight.

[Dayve]

So your argument, that PC games have more replayability, holds no weight.

Your mom holds no weight.

[Mrbo]

Here is the way I see it.

PC games have better controls. Keyboard + Mouse offers far more than a couple control sticks and 10+ buttons. Use of menus and actions is far more intuative on the PC. Imagine playing Xbox Halo against PC Halo players. The Xbox players would be hiding in the corner praying they dont get blasted the second they take a step. Control wise, playing a game on the console is like playing a gimped PC game.

Graphics will ALWAYS exceed console's. Consoles hold the ability, at this moment, to compare to high-range PC Graphics. This is due to their static hardware setup. Game makers know what platform they're working with and can adjust the game to work with it. PC Games have to compensate for both the current edge of technology, and those that trail behind. But in the end the technology divide is too much. When the PS4 comes out in 5-6 years PC games will be lightyears ahead of the PS3 in terms of graphics and functionality. In 5-6 years low-end machines will even be running technology far ahead of a current console.

Every couple years PC Developers force a leap of technology on their players. They tell them to keep up and wave the goodies in their faces. In 5 to 6 or 7 years console developers will finally give their players something new to play with. And it will be comparable to something PC gamers have had for at least a year or so.

In the end heres the cold hard facts. Consoles can currently run great looking games, but I can play those same games, with the same graphics, on my PC. What I get from my PC is another 5 years of technological advancement that will leave console gamers twidling their thumbs.

Edit :

Consoles are fun too though :) They have their own place in the universe of gaming.

[mudwhistle]

Now i'm not racist against consoles

LOL.......

[asdfkjhg]

what the fuck!! that was insanity! :ahhh:

[mudwhistle]

PC game replayability smokes console.

1. Almost every multiplayer game is free except for some mmorpgs
2. MODs! I played bf1942 for 3 years and there was always a new map or modification, a good game never stops being developed.
3. Like dayve said 64 player maps

I could go on for days, but it is a stupid argument anyway. PC wins hands down.

[Katzenschlager]

Yes, we get it, PCs have better graphics than consoles, you PC gamers win, you can play your gorgeous MMORPGs for 19 hours a day while I play Mario Kart for 1 hour before I have to go to work.

WORLD OF WARCRAFT OWNZ YOU!

[mudwhistle]

Next-gen consoles come out every 4-5 years, not every year. For the price of a good video card, you can buy the Xbox 360, or PS3. For the price of 2 gigs of RAM needed to play F.E.A.R 2: The Soich for More Money, you can get a Nintendo Revolution.

Who keeps a pc for more than 4-5 years? You need a pc anyway so why be a cheapskate? You can’t really compare the full cost of a pc vs. a console because a pc does so much more and you would be getting a new pc at least every 4-5 years anyway. So instead of buying an e-machine pos, you could get a fairly decent computer w/ a good video card and a bunch of ram (ram is cheap as hell nowadays) and you're good to go. You may have to upgrade the video once more between pc upgrades, but it really isn’t that expensive.

---Or you could go with a pos computer, which is basically a 1000$+ word processor and internet browser. Add the cost of the console and you are probably paying more.

[smallbrady89]

im not argueing for or against anything here but i find it weird that the mouse/keybord set up was designed for use with word prossesors and icon slection yet people are saying its the best gameing set up out there.

[Dayve]

As far as FPS shooters go it is the best setup out there.

[timberwolf]

Comparing PC gaming to console gaming is laughable. PC gaming is a small niche market, whereas console gaming dominates the industry. Consoles are much better for the following reasons:

- No software incompatibilties
- Very few (if any) patches ever necessary
- Better graphics
- Better screen to play games on (HDTV)
- Affordable
- 5 year system life (before a new system comes out)
- Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc.
- Better quality games more frequently
- Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct.

[SregoR]

only thing consoles have over pc without a doubt is, you don't have to worry about if your console is gonna be able to run the game your buying smoothly.

[Dayve]

Dood PC gaming will never be almost extinct... Like i say, at some point, kids grow up and get tired of mindless shooting, like in HALO, or generally all console games... Then they move on to the PC for more in depth games where a little thinking is involved. It happened to me, happened to all my friends, all grew up with consoles and went to the PC, it happens to everybody eventually... Nah, PC gaming will never be extinct.

[SregoR]

Comparing PC gaming to console gaming is laughable. PC gaming is a small niche market, whereas console gaming dominates the industry. Consoles are much better for the following reasons:

- No software incompatibilties
- Very few (if any) patches ever necessary
- Better graphics
- Better screen to play games on (HDTV)
- Affordable
- 5 year system life (before a new system comes out)
- Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc.
- Better quality games more frequently
- Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct.
All the things i put in bold are bullshit reasons that hold no real weight. For example better graphics? are you kidding me? HDTV kinda goes against your affordable agruement now doesn't it. Better quality games more frequenntly is more of a opinion then a fact. PC gaming going extinct will happen when computers stop making the games that are played on your consoles.

but hey it doesn't really matter, i play both console and PC games

Dood PC gaming will never be almost extinct... Like i say, at some point, kids grow up and get tired of mindless shooting, like in HALO, or generally all console games... Then they move on to the PC for more in depth games where a little thinking is involved. It happened to me, happened to all my friends, all grew up with consoles and went to the PC, it happens to everybody eventually... Nah, PC gaming will never be extinct.
weak post, im guessing you guys weren't into RPGS on console? also what PC games made you think more then console games? Chess?

[ConanTL]

- Very few (if any) patches ever necessary

You have to usually wait longer for the game to come out


- Better graphics

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Very funny.


- Better screen to play games on (HDTV)

LCD monitors are still better, since they have a higher resolution. And HDTVs cost a shit load of money, that you could invest into a PC.


- Affordable

Generally yes, but if you want an HDTV with that and many games which are more expensive ... than no.


- 5 year system life (before a new system comes out)

Generally a good thing.


- Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc.

If you knew how to work a PC you wouldn't have such problems


- Better quality games more frequently

Nonsense (although there are very good console-only games). What about strategy games.


- Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct.
Bullshit. What are you basing that assumption on?

Anyway, the main reason I like the PC more: THE MOUSE!

I love FPS and strategy games. FPSs handle like shit with those fucking analog sticks. And there are barely any strategy games for consoles.

PCs are far better. The only negative aspect is the price and the occasional good console game that doesn't come out for the PC.

[Dayve]

At about the age of 10, 11... I became fascinated with history. Not long after i found out about such PC games as AoE and Cossacks... Games that provide a challenge and some thinking power. Games like these were impossible to find on the consoles of that time, and are still like that now... Only on the PC can i get a good RTS game...

Also the PC had games such as MoH:AA, my favourite period in history, world war 2... As many as 32 real people from all over the world could play against each other with all the weapons of the second world war... On the playstation there was simply - Medal of Honour. Horrible graphics, horrible AI, and although it was good the first time i played it, after i completed it it went on the shelf.

Consoles now allow multiplayer games, but like i say... 8 people to a server.. Boring crappedy crap... And you have to pay more than a broadband connection on a PC for it when it isn't even as good... Screw that. Strategy wargames still aren't made for the consoles, or if they are they're very rare and never as good as their PC cousins. I just got tired of the same old boring mindless run and gun, complete then put on the shelf console games.

Now, i still have my old consoles and a select few games that are some of my favourites of all time that will never lose their replayability for me... They are the final fantasy 7, 8 and 9 games, metal gear solid 1, the resident evil series, silent hill... Games i grew up playing... But until consoles start being sold with a mouse and keyboard for FPS gaming, strategy wargames and a multiplayer function that isn't so retarded it makes you laugh everytime you try to play it, i'll be sticking with my PC tyvmand goodnight.

[timberwolf]

At about the age of 10, 11... I became fascinated with history. Not long after i found out about such PC games as AoE and Cossacks... Games that provide a challenge and some thinking power. Games like these were impossible to find on the consoles of that time, and are still like that now... Only on the PC can i get a good RTS game...

Also the PC had games such as MoH:AA, my favourite period in history, world war 2... As many as 32 real people from all over the world could play against each other with all the weapons of the second world war... On the playstation there was simply - Medal of Honour. Horrible graphics, horrible AI, and although it was good the first time i played it, after i completed it it went on the shelf.

Consoles now allow multiplayer games, but like i say... 8 people to a server.. Boring crappedy crap... And you have to pay more than a broadband connection on a PC for it when it isn't even as good... Screw that. Strategy wargames still aren't made for the consoles, or if they are they're very rare and never as good as their PC cousins. I just got tired of the same old boring mindless run and gun, complete then put on the shelf console games.

Now, i still have my old consoles and a select few games that are some of my favourites of all time that will never lose their replayability for me... They are the final fantasy 7, 8 and 9 games, metal gear solid 1, the resident evil series, silent hill... Games i grew up playing... But until consoles start being sold with a mouse and keyboard for FPS gaming, strategy wargames and a multiplayer function that isn't so retarded it makes you laugh everytime you try to play it, i'll be sticking with my PC tyvmand goodnight.

blah...blah...blah....shut up

Console gaming > PC gaming

[ConanTL]

blah...blah...blah....shut up

Console gaming > PC gaming

translation: I realize I don't have a point.

[emoisgay]

blah...blah...blah....shut up

Console gaming > PC gaming


Not in the life time idiot, PC gaming will always domiante consoles from every aspect control, replay value, fun factor, online capabilities, better games, use almost anything the only thing console can beat a pc in is price...

Just answer me a few questions.

Name any console game that is still fun even after you beat it one that you won't get bored with put on self and will collect dust.

1.Why are console games so blocky?

2.Why are more console games trying to put PC games on there sytems.

3.Why is online abilty becoming more popular now (if you have a pc it's obvious)
i'd throw some more in but its clear that PC gaming is better and always will.

[Dayve]

blah...blah...blah....shut up

Console gaming > PC gaming

Oh come on, you can't just leave it at that. There are a lot of strategy wargame fans, and the only place they can get a good strategy wargame is on the PC... Not just that, what about the MMORPGS? None of those on the consoles yet simply because their servers can handle like 8 people... Not much of an MMORPG with only 8 people is it?

And by god, one more thing... It's already been mentioned... PC games, people make mods for them... I've spent the last year and a half playing Rome: Total War... I got bored of the original game, a huge mod came out, the game had new life breathed into it. Recently another new mod, the best one that could ever be for that game has been released, and it is only half way complete at the moment... For a year and a half i have spent £60 ($100) on 2 games, Rome: Total War, and more recently, Battlefield 2 to fullfil my FPS needs.

In a year and a half of console gaming i would have to buy one new game every week (literaly) to keep me occupied for that whole year and a half. Just another advantage of the PC that the console will not acquire for many many MANY years.

[emoisgay]

Oh come on, you can't just leave it at that. There are a lot of strategy wargame fans, and the only place they can get a good strategy wargame is on the PC... Not just that, what about the MMORPGS? None of those on the consoles yet simply because their servers can handle like 8 people... Not much of an MMORPG with only 8 people is it?

And by god, one more thing... It's already been mentioned... PC games, people make mods for them... I've spent the last year and a half playing Rome: Total War... I got bored of the original game, a huge mod came out, the game had new life breathed into it. Recently another new mod, the best one that could ever be for that game has been released, and it is only half way complete at the moment... For a year and a half i have spent £60 ($100) on 2 games, Rome: Total War, and more recently, Battlefield 2 to fullfil my FPS needs.

In a year and a half of console gaming i would have to buy one new game every week (literaly) to keep me occupied for that whole year and a half. Just another advantage of the PC that the console will not acquire for many many MANY years.


Quoted for the truth when you really think about it, you spend how much on a game for consule $55 with taxes and all i counted 13,000 on my console games most which just collect dust and i only counted by 50's i left out the the cheaper ones, all in all you could by a new pc and what you spend on games for a console you could upgrade the pc. FYI those games i counted weren't that many only 27 total for my GC and ps2 so lets add this all up every 4-5 new Next gen sytems come out usually 3, average kid get's 2 of them so thats 1000 With tax memory cards another controller and all the basic stuff, we still didn't get into games, future add on's, and other stuff. All in all Seems like consule actually passes the pc's price in time then when it's done what do you with the sytem and all the games that you got for it? Play them again? Well you can't do that it's only so fun for so long until it collects dust. Where as pc buy 1 game pay a good 70 or cheaper, and thats it just mods and a upgrade here and there and thats the end :) PC>>>> console.

[timberwolf]

PC gaming is a huge headache. First off you gotta hope everything in your PC is compatible with the game, otherwise the game will either not perform well, or it will constantly crash. Second, you gotta hope your PC is powerful enough to run the game, which usually means upgrading to a better graphics card which can cost upwards of $500. Third, you gotta deal with downloading numerous patches. After all that, you start the game, select a decent resolution (at least 1024 X 768), put AA on, put high quality settings in the game menu on, and guess what? It runs all choppy, because apparently only a $10,000 gaming rig can play it at those settings. So you just spent $550 ($500 for the video card + $50 for the game) and 2 hours to realize that the game is gonna run and look like crap on your rig.

And the graphics on the Xbox 360 are definitely BETTER than any PCs on the market right now, and it will remain that way for a few years at least. Just look at Oblivion, it looks better on the $400 Xbox 360 + HDTV than on a $10,000 super duper gaming PC.

Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC

[Dayve]

I have about 15 PC games... I've been playing PC games for 5 years... When the PS2 came outi had 15 different games in the first 15 weeks... Had to buy a new one every week like i say... At £30-40 a piece, we can just say for arguments sake i buy 26 PS2 games in a year, which is 1 per fortnight, and i'll add £375 for the PS2 itself with the insurance i bought. So, 26x35 = Holy shit... £910... £910 pounds a year on PS2 games... 1 every 2 weeks... That's like $1500... Just on games, in one year... Plus £350 for the console, a grand total of £1,250 or around $1,800, for one years worth of entertainment.

I could buy the sweetest gaming PC with that money... And about 3 PC games, which if i chose wisely (which i do) would keep me entertained for a very long time... Then, for the upgrades that will be needed every 2 years or so, (G-card, processor, ram) i would have to spend maybe £400 or $650 every 2 years thereafter for upgrades, as opposed to £910 for PS2 games to keep me occupied for the next year of gaming... So don't anybody here dare say that a console is cheaper than a PC, because a PC works out cheaper than a console. PC doesnt just own console, it turns console upside-down and mops the floor with it.

Also, you don't have to hope your PC will run this or that, because most PC's will run most games, you just have to lower a little of this and a little of that... I've always said that graphics don't make a game good, and i stick by it. You DON'T need to buy a new G-Card everytime a new game comes out... Once every 2-3 years is enough. I bought a Radeon-X800 a year and a half-2 years ago, and guess what? It's gonna last me for another 2 years, comfortably... I don't need to worry about new games not running on my PC simply because i know they will, just that i might have to turn off some effects which aren't actually essential.

[timberwolf]

I've always said that graphics don't make a game good, and i stick by it.

Really? Then how come we are all not just playing Pong?

Face it, graphics are a big part of gaming. And the next gen consoles (360 & PS3) have better graphics than PCs, and it will remain that way for a few years.

[MyBike]

Comparing PC gaming to console gaming is laughable. PC gaming is a small niche market, whereas console gaming dominates the industry. Consoles are much better for the following reasons:

- No software incompatibilties
- Very few (if any) patches ever necessary
- Better graphics
- Better screen to play games on (HDTV)
- Affordable
- 5 year system life (before a new system comes out)
- Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc.
- Better quality games more frequently
- Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct.

The only reason that consoles actually dominate the market is convenience. People want simplicity and the ability to be able to just pop a cd in and start playing, not having to worry about hardware or software issues.


As for the other post:
No software incompatibilties - Thats because every console game is specified to a single unit, there is no need to worry about bugs that may come up because of the variety of the units. This is actually the only sole advantage consoles have over pc's.

Very few (if any) patches ever necessary - Patches are a good thing, they usually make the game run smoother, better, and sometimes even introduces new gameplay.

Better graphics - No. (See various posts prior to this one on graphics.)


Better screen to play games on (HDTV) - Most newer HDTV's and most newer video cards have the ability to run off DVI or component video (hell, even vga). Computers games CAN utilize HDTV :idea:

Affordable - Considering the amount of money you will be spending on games, it in fact IS NOT affordable (unless you'll play 1 game for the rest of the console's lifespan) Buying 5 new games on an Xbox 360 will cost you $300. With a PC, you have a friend called bittorrent. ;)

5 year system life (before a new system comes out) - If I get a top of the line system now, It'll last me over 5 years. In fact, I can probably still get a couple hundred bucks out if it when I do decide to sell it. Or I can reuse the parts and upgrade it. (Better than an outdated console collecting dust in the corner isnt it? :raiseeyeb )

Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc. - With all the new protection programs coming out nowadays, I'd give it 1-2 years before adware will cease to exist. Besides, its usually the ignorant people who download 18kb Javascript files of Limewire saying that its a crack for all games ever created.

Better quality games more frequently - I don't see consoles coming out with a San Andreas every month. Actually, most console games are crap with no replayability.


Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct. - I see it the other way around. As consoles keep trying to become closer and closer to being a pc, developers will eventually find a way to make pc gaming as easy as consoles.

Add all that to the fact that you can get free porn on a pc. :boink:



Face it, graphics are a big part of gaming. And the next gen consoles (360 & PS3) have better graphics than PCs, and it will remain that way for a few years.

Do the words "space constraints" and "under $500" ring a bell?

[Dayve]

Really? Then how come we are all not just playing Pong?

Face it, graphics are a big part of gaming. And the next gen consoles (360 & PS3) have better graphics than PCs, and it will remain that way for a few years.

No man no... Go out and buy the latest and best hardware for a PC, put it all together and then compare it with a 360 or a PS3, the PC wins, again...

We aren't playing pong for the same reason we aren't still playing tetris... Because when played over a long enough period, a game will get old and boring... Just like console games, leading me to the point ONCE AGAIN, that even the oldest of PC games can have new life breathed into them with something new added, because PC eggheads have the ability and the means of opening up a game and changing/modifying things, mods, whereas console games DO NOT...

I agree with everything MyBike just said basically... Although it may be illegal, i can bittorrent a new game for free, provided i don't plan on playing MP, and even then with some effort you can use a ripped game with multiplayer... Also, just as Bike said, free porn, free movies, free music, all the glorious hours you can spend arguing like this in a forum, work related tasks, PCs can do all this apart from just run games... Consoles can't do any of it.

And again, graphics don't make a game. Graphics help, but don't make a game, at all. Gameplay makes a game, and if it's an RPG then storyline and music too, pretty graphics serve only to draw you to the game when it is released.

[Haker]

I thought PC's have always had better graphics then the consoles...?

They have, just came close w/ the 360, even though viewdistances make me claustriphobic on the 360.\

[NinjaDave]

I found the power of the 360 to be a little odd.... I noticed a very large decrese in preformance when playing GR.... Now it may just be the fact that the system just came out and its still not refined to prefection.... but like cmon, the textures and stuff in ghost recon arnt all that dense and complex.... If we are already seeing some frame issues this early in the relese that wories me.... How the hell will the 360 hold up under the new CRYTECH 2 engine or the UNREAL 3 for that matter? Im hoping that the PS3 can actualy do half the shit it claims it can.

Prety much everything else that i had to say has been said.... Dayve had some of the best points, you can do more than game, you can edit games and whatnot that kinda leads back to the PC's prety much making consoles.

The only reason i still have consoles is because of the racing games (GT4 and Forza) and the MGS serise.

[Haker]

Comparing PC gaming to console gaming is laughable. PC gaming is a small niche market, whereas console gaming dominates the industry. Consoles are much better for the following reasons:

- No software incompatibilties
- Very few (if any) patches ever necessary
- Better graphics
- Better screen to play games on (HDTV)
- Affordable
- 5 year system life (before a new system comes out)
- Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc.
- Better quality games more frequently
- Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct.

- No software incompatibilties- Bullshit, Microsoft, nuff said.

- Very few (if any) patches ever necessary - Bullshit, Microsoft, nuff said :) - Woops, sorry you don't get updates, and any bugs you have, you have for life :)

- Better graphics - More Bullshit

- Better screen to play games on (HDTV) - Huge load of bullshite, if you wanted you could hook a PC to an IMAX

- Affordable - Bullshit, Hvae to include the game costs controller costs memory stick costs, aswell of the cost of taht HDTV in that one. O and for Online the XBox live cost. This is totally invalid, Console gamers are complete consumer whores.

- 5 year system life - Ok, live with OK graphics for the first year, and then shitty graphics for the next four years. Plus not to mention the shitty gameplay.

- Don't have to deal with system resources being hogged up by spyware, adware, crapware, etc. - Stop looking up porn. Get an Antivirus, poor poor Console Noob.

- Console gaming will still be around in 10 years, whereas PC gaming might be close to extinct. All's I can say to this is "Lol"

[MyBike]

Consoles > PC's! First of all, I don't have to pay $2000 for a top of the line gaming computer only to have it outdated in 1 year. With a console, I can sleep peacefully knowing that my console won't be outdated for another 5 years. I also don't have to put up with any blue screens or errors that are normally present in PC's.

[Dayve]

Consoles > PC's! First of all, I don't have to pay $2000 for a top of the line gaming computer only to have it outdated in 1 year. With a console, I can sleep peacefully knowing that my console won't be outdated for another 5 years. I also don't have to put up with any blue screens or errors that are normally present in PC's.

Wtf did you just completely change your argument to the exact opposite of what you said in the previous page? Spread the costs of games for those 5 years and you'll find it works out cheaper to have a PC... And where you get this "Outdated in a year" rubbish from i do not know... If you buy a top of the line graphics card it'll last you a good 3 or 4 years...

I also never get any blue screens or errors... The only people that get crashes/blue screens of death during games are those who don't know what the fuck they're doing with a computer... Generally the people who have been downloading pr0n without Ad-Aware, AVG and Zone Alarm :raiseeyeb

Then they start playing a game and get some popups advertising penis enlargement pills which freezes their system up, they jam all the keys trying to close it and end up with blue screen of death... But i still have no idea why you changed your argument entirely.

[refoops]

Christ, You people are worst then a bunch of 6 year olds.

[PsiRedEye22]

Ive had my computer for 3 years, built it myself, and it runs even the latest games with absolutely no problems. A tv and a console cost way more.

[JakeHarris74]

Christ, You people are worst then a bunch of 6 year olds.


:lol: I just realized I read through two pages of this PC vs Console argument before I came to this post and was like "what the hell am I doing".

[ticksNleeches]

Exceeds next-gen consoles, huh?

Did you know that this's gonna be on both PC, and Xbox 360?

http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1396/Crysis/


And, usually, with games like Oblivion, the games look better (by allowing both HDR, and Anti-Aliasing, whereas the PC version only allows you to pick one, or the other, for example), since they're fully optimised for the console, since it's the same identical system, and they can take full advantage of it.


you say usually, but oblivion is the only game on the market right now that has problems with hdr and AA and it's because of the ways the developers implemented it. even then you can run both on ati x1xxx series cards.

[MyBike]

Wtf did you just completely change your argument to the exact opposite of what you said in the previous page? Spread the costs of games for those 5 years and you'll find it works out cheaper to have a PC... And where you get this "Outdated in a year" rubbish from i do not know... If you buy a top of the line graphics card it'll last you a good 3 or 4 years...



But I'm just trying to fit in with the cool kids! :ahhh:

[tripb19]

PC gaming is a small niche market, whereas console gaming dominates the industry.
This is the most salient of all points. The console gaming market is worth a lot more than PC gaming market. Hence if it dies, it will be after PC gaming does.

It's apples and oranges anyway. But $$$ = everything to longevity of entertainment medium.

[kududoodoop]

I found the power of the 360 to be a little odd.... I noticed a very large decrese in preformance when playing GR.... Now it may just be the fact that the system just came out and its still not refined to prefection.... but like cmon, the textures and stuff in ghost recon arnt all that dense and complex.... If we are already seeing some frame issues this early in the relese that wories me.... How the hell will the 360 hold up under the new CRYTECH 2 engine or the UNREAL 3 for that matter? Im hoping that the PS3 can actualy do half the shit it claims it can.

Prety much everything else that i had to say has been said.... Dayve had some of the best points, you can do more than game, you can edit games and whatnot that kinda leads back to the PC's prety much making consoles.

The only reason i still have consoles is because of the racing games (GT4 and Forza) and the MGS serise.

PS3 can't, here's the problem, most of the games you've seen that are ports, were ported in short time, not allowing developers to change it's architecture for the console, but i had no prolem with GRAW at all, never stuttered or anything.

360 and ps3 are the same, with a graphics card about the strength as the nvidia 7900.

there both equal in CPU power, 360 getting a bit ahead in raw CPU peformance, no to mention three cores helps balance very well when programed correctly.

and GPU is about the same, though 360's GPU handles shaders considerably better and has more video memory than the ps3's RSX.


all in all PC all the way, not to mention hooking up a 360 controller is awesome, especially when playing games on pc that demand it, like GTA, peforms so much better on PC and loads way faster and i can still use a controller.

[Dayve]

We're like a bunch of 6 year olds for discussing something? Fuck off.

PC Gaming is NOT a small community, it is infact VERY large, although nowhere near as large as the console market, PC gaming will never be dead simply because the game developers make a lot of money out of their games. The only reason a lot of people don't have PCs for gaming is because they can't afford the initial $1800 you have to spend to get a great gaming rig, but once you make that step and learn how to use the computer, you'll never look back.

Why play the newest FPS games on the PS3 or 360 where you'll be bored after you complete them, when you can play it on the PC with 64 players from around the world in different maps, new ones being released often so you never get bored, BETTER GRAPHICS provided you have the right gear...

You people saying that gaming will die are idiots though... Gaming will never die, console or computer... There will always be children buying console games and there will always be people getting older looking for more fun/replayable/challenging games coming to the PC.

[ramstein]

Yes, we get it, PCs have better graphics than consoles, you PC gamers win, you can play your gorgeous MMORPGs for 19 hours a day while I play Mario Kart for 1 hour before I have to go to work.

Far cry isn't MMORPG, DOOM3 isn't, HL2 isn't, UT2K4 isn't, EA Fifa isn't, Obvilion isn't and tons and tons of PC Games ain't MMORPG, so you are a dumbass.

[SHARPjaws]

most ideots here are ignoring the fact that u spend 2000$$ and buy a pc not just for gaming(or trying to ignor cuz thats all consol can do) . but u get great power for gaming and every thing else. for eg, i like 3d art, go here and see for ur self http://www.cgsociety.org/ now go beat any of that graphics with ur consol, u cant do none of that with ur consol but its well worth spending 2000$ to be abel to do all of that with ur pc..
o and i can defintly earn my money back with a pc too..

[ozmiummink]

Wow you guys keep talking about the price of pc's... you are so ignorant. This is what I paid for my computer:

Processor / Motherboard = $200 ( oc'ed processor to 2.8 Gigs, so I saved a bunch )
Video Card - $109 ( 6600 GT run ANY game in existance for PC, without lagg and at high settings, for the most part )

Total with the rest of the stuff I spent $700 dollers on my rig, and it runs every game out there perfectly.

Whoever said you need a $500 doller graphics card is retarded. Not only do you not NEED a 7800 GTX, or 1800 XT to run ANY game, there is no way in hell that a $500 doller graphics card would run the game choppy. you are an ignorant fool. Play some CS:S then go play shitty ass halo-2. Tell me whats better.

[FuckYourGod]

America must have a new currency...what the fuck is a doller? :lmao:

[Have_A_Nice_Day]

Wow you guys keep talking about the price of pc's... you are so ignorant. This is what I paid for my computer:

Processor / Motherboard = $200 ( oc'ed processor to 2.8 Gigs, so I saved a bunch )
Video Card - $109 ( 6600 GT run ANY game in existance for PC, without lagg and at high settings, for the most part )

Total with the rest of the stuff I spent $700 dollers on my rig, and it runs every game out there perfectly.

Whoever said you need a $500 doller graphics card is retarded. Not only do you not NEED a 7800 GTX, or 1800 XT to run ANY game, there is no way in hell that a $500 doller graphics card would run the game choppy. you are an ignorant fool. Play some CS:S then go play shitty ass halo-2. Tell me whats better.

qouted for truth, my computer was about 700 in total, it plays every game that has come out for xbox360 with the same if not better graphics, and its 4 years old. its also totally custom, so why buy some gay ass dell. buying a 360 is just like getting another pc where you cant do any of the things a pc can do :P and the games are cheaper and customizable

[MasterChef]

there both equal in CPU power, 360 getting a bit ahead in raw CPU peformance, no to mention three cores helps balance very well when programed correctly.

The PS3 has 7 operating SPEs, and one CPU to regulate them.

[timberwolf]

The PS3 has 7 operating SPEs, and one CPU to regulate them.

Once again, it is well known the XBOX 360 and PS3 are equal in power.

Sorry Sony fanboys.

XBOX 360 = PS3

[timberwolf]

If you want to a good computer, you buy a Mac. If you want a good gaming system, you buy a XBOX 360. It's that simple.

[Have_A_Nice_Day]

xbox 360 + ps3 + windows xp = PC

edit: LOL a mac, thats funny

[FuckYourGod]

Once again, it is well known the XBOX 360 and PS3 are equal in power.

Sorry Sony fanboys.

XBOX 360 = PS3

But the PS always has better games =)

[MasterChef]

Once again, it is well known the XBOX 360 and PS3 are equal in power. I was replying to his inferrence that the PS3 has one core. Even if they are equal... I couldn't care the fuck less. ;)

Xbox 360 running UE3:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/huxley/screenindex.html

Brothers In Arms: Hells Highway, PS3 version:

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7a9087f477a11f03b428c1d9a6301f.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d061f42b5250eade13d97682b4603s.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d491e3f3bfc89061649a3522c2dc8m.jpg

Lair, for PS3

http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d491e3f3bfc89061649a3522c2dc3e.jpg

(Note: May or may not be ingame, the health bar and movement tips suggest the latter... but its safe to say just take it for granted.)

MOH: Airborn, for PS3:

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen1copy27sg.jpg

Consoles always have noticable mojo in their first coupla' marketing years; nevertheless, PC's always exceed them after a few years.

[SHARPjaws]

But the PS always has better games =)
i dout it will happen with ps3, xbox 360 came out years b4 ps3 did, giving it enough time to produce tones of games..

yesh.. CSS > all games.. plus i can get a 6800GT for like 200$ but i love my 7900GT. i run all games at ultra graphics. quake 4 graphics owns, and i cant wait to see ghost recon :)

[the_commanche]

or do what battlefield is doing

TEH FUT0RZZ!!1!!11!!

BATTLEFILED 2142 HELLZ YEAH (no really it's actually coming out this year)

Umm no. It's running on the same engine as the current Battlefield, so it's not going to be more then marginally better looking.

timberwolf: If you want a good computer, buy XP for it's compatibility, then put 5 minutes for the very slight ammount of maintainence you need for a computer.

But by all means, buy a Mac if your lazy and incompetent.

Also, better screens to play console on? ARE YOU THAT RETARDED?! Here's a hint: TV runs at 640x480. You can also see indiviual pixels if you get real close to it. An average monitor is 1024x768, and more going up into the 2000s of pixels across both dimensions. I run all my games at 1280x1024, which is at the HDTV standard, and above any cheap knockoffs.

And for your "pc gaming is dead" theory, what do you base this on? What reports? The reports that state in-store purchases? You can't base anything on those. Games purchased via Steam, EA Downloader and Online Stores don't get tallied in. So find those reports, and add 5 million people monthly who pay for subscriptions for WoW alone.

Reading this thread, I have to say half of you don't know what you're talking about, and are relying on bias press releases.

Actually, none of you have anything to base this on. At all. All of these are pre-rendered, and you have no proof that they were rendered on said consoles/a single PC. What's worse is still images (Looks at MasterChef) because those are more susceptible to editing.

And, off topic, SHARPjaws, I am revoking your right to call anything "stupid" or "retarded" because you spell "idiot" as "ideot."

Come on now..

I have to keep editing this because I see even more retarded posts!

[kududoodoop]

I was replying to his inferrence that the PS3 has one core. Even if they are equal... I couldn't care the fuck less. ;)

Xbox 360 running UE3:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/huxley/screenindex.html

Brothers In Arms: Hells Highway, PS3 version:

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7a9087f477a11f03b428c1d9a6301f.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d061f42b5250eade13d97682b4603s.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d491e3f3bfc89061649a3522c2dc8m.jpg

Lair, for PS3

http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d491e3f3bfc89061649a3522c2dc3e.jpg

(Note: May or may not be ingame, the health bar and movement tips suggest the latter... but its safe to say just take it for granted.)

MOH: Airborn, for PS3:

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen1copy27sg.jpg

Consoles always have noticable mojo in their first coupla' marketing years; nevertheless, PC's always exceed them after a few years.

lol the airborn pic isn't even in game, and neither is lair, i remember that from last E3, it's pre rendered art. ps3 has never been showed demo'ed so wait and see, i think it's all bullshit their claims, just like psp and ps2.

i don't see any in game pics at all really, i'm confused, what are you trying to say?

sure they all look nice, but i've never seen huxley live, MOH (series sucks anyway, COD all the way) live, lair or even any footage of lair live. in fact none, there's no ps3 game ever demo'ed so far, and that 360 pic isn't in game so i doesn't matter, games can look good in pics, but in action you'll see a great difference.

ps3 and 360 are the same, just different companies.

i choose PC.

[Watusa]

I've never seen so many nerds in one thread before.

[the_commanche]

I've never seen so many nerds in one thread before.

So don't post if that's all you have (that being nothing) to contribute.

[rand0m]

PC
- Games just generally cheaper, plus you get patches, mods, and new game content.
- You can Illegally download games so you dont have to pay.
- You usually get free online play
- You can do far far far more stuff on a pc.
- Games are generally longer, more detailed and the input is alot easier (mouse and keyboard)
- Dont need to pay $100 for a harddrive, it comes with pc.

theres probably a load more reasons, however the only way a consol beats the pc is that you can have like 4+ players playing together on the same box.

Oh and for the record PS3 games are going to be far more intelligent (bots and shit) due to the Cell Proccessor

[the_commanche]

PC
- Games just generally cheaper, plus you get patches, mods, and new game content.
- You can Illegally download games so you dont have to pay.
- You usually get free online play
- You can do far far far more stuff on a pc.
- Games are generally longer, more detailed and the input is alot easier (mouse and keyboard)
- Dont need to pay $100 for a harddrive, it comes with pc.

theres probably a load more reasons, however the only way a consol beats the pc is that you can have like 4+ players playing together on the same box.

For the most part good. Although the same pirating of games can be done with consoles: Mod Chip
And hard drives, especially high performance Western Digital drives, can be very pricey. That argument only counts if you buy a computer pre-made, but either way you're paying for the drive.
But...

Oh and for the record PS3 games are going to be far more intelligent (bots and shit) due to the Cell Proccessor

Are you SERIOUS?! AI is for the most part programming, because everything is scripted, with alot of options. The cell processor won't do shit unless the programmers put in the time to make intelligent code.

No one is close to making a processor equivelant to that of a human brain. While our current processes are rating in Millions of Instructions Per Second (MIPS) a brain is in the Trillions of Instructions Per Second.

[rand0m]

Are you SERIOUS?! AI is for the most part programming, because everything is scripted, with alot of options. The cell processor won't do shit unless the programmers put in the time to make intelligent code.

No one is close to making a processor equivelant to that of a human brain. While our current processes are rating in Millions of Instructions Per Second (MIPS) a brain is in the Trillions of Instructions Per Second.

yea i am serious, as the cell proccessor with its multi cpu cores is capable of giving the AI more proccessing power for things like pathfinding. Sure they only go as far as the programmers put them, but the cell proccessor allows the programmers to put them further ahead.

[the_commanche]

AI (in video games atleast) never has, and will not for some time come close to utilizing even todays processors.

And pathfinding isn't necassary because game designers set waypoints on included maps. Dynamic pathfinding hasn't been used in some time, once people realized the use of passive pathfinding.