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rizzleman
04-17-2006, 09:33 AM
http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/04/rocketcam.html

Just where did they (those NASA people) expect those disposed rockets to go?
The ones that the rocket detached along the way into space.



^ Ocean.

I thought that was a interesting video.

What confuses me.
From what it looked like. They actually took a turn while they were going up.
Otherwise you would not see the edge of the earth like that in the video. If you really went STRAIGHT UP (perpendicular to the launch site), you would have to be really damn far to see any edges, if not, all the edges of the world. If you think
the world as a perfect sphere. Or if the camera was angled differently.. But the camera looked like it was angled straight down.
Do you get it?
So if the camera is angled straight down, and the rocket is going
straight up taking no turns or strafing, you would have to be really far away to see any edges of the earth. Because when you do, you'd see the whole world.

See this circle O (imagine the circle is the earth)
O> See the arrow?
THe arrow is the line of sight from the camera's point of view.

So where am i going with this? Since the rocket apparently took a turn, they've calculated where to put the disposed rockets is what you're saying?
Because if they clearly went straight up, the rockets that was disposed woudl clearly come back straight down back into the base. Regardless of the winds pushing it, it wouldnt land nearly in the same spot. Or area.

Suppose they didn't calculate it.
The rockets could have landed anywhere.. SAy cities... That rocket site must be damn near 200 miles away from urban areas.
The higher you go up, the more chance of the rockets landing farther away from a calculated point. Wind factors and such.

firepiss
04-17-2006, 10:02 AM
^ Ocean.

I thought that was a interesting video.

Sniper2
04-17-2006, 10:41 AM
that video was cool...and yeh i think those parts end up in the ocean

BATeller
04-17-2006, 11:30 AM
All major launch sites are near the ocean for this vary reason... and yes the rocket doesn't go 'straight up' during it's entire launch.

cletusxi
04-17-2006, 12:51 PM
Actually.. The rocket does go straight up, the curvature of the Earth makes it appear as if it curves. The Earth isnt 100% spherical, its squashed.

And the fuel rockets which are detached from the rockets around about FOUR MILES up burn up in the atmosphere before they even reach the ground.

armani
04-17-2006, 01:18 PM
Actually.. The rocket does go straight up, the curvature of the Earth makes it appear as if it curves. The Earth isnt 100% spherical, its squashed.

What exactly is "straight up?" I mean, the shuttle is headed in a line no matter what direction it's going, aka it's going straight. Do you mean it's ascending exactly perpendicular to the launch zone? If that was your understanding, you'd be wrong.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle):

The vehicle climbs in a progressively flattening arc, accelerating as the weight of the SRBs and main tank decrease. To achieve low orbit requires much more horizontal than vertical acceleration.

And cletusxi, you also said:

And the fuel rockets which are detached from the rockets around about FOUR MILES up burn up in the atmosphere before they even reach the ground.

First off, four miles is not high at all. Anything falling from four miles will most certainly NOT burn up in the atmosphere (I mean, people typically skydive from TWO miles). The tanks that burn up in the atmosphere are discarded at about SIXTY miles. The tanks that are jettisoned at about 30 miles deploy parachutes and are recovered in the ocean.

thegnome54
04-17-2006, 06:20 PM
OHHH!! You idiots just got BITCHED!! I hope some of you will learn your lessons and stop pretending to know about shit you have no idea about.

Snoop916
04-17-2006, 06:27 PM
OHHH!! You idiots just got BITCHED!! I hope some of you will learn your lessons and stop pretending to know about shit you have no idea about.

Thank you.

PHfan1090
04-17-2006, 06:45 PM
Yes, precisely. They go to the lucious blue ocean or get sucked to the sun's massive gravitational pull and burned to oblivion.
Hrmm

PHfan1090
04-17-2006, 06:45 PM
First off, four miles is not high at all. Anything falling from four miles will most certainly NOT burn up in the atmosphere (I mean, people typically skydive from TWO miles). The tanks that burn up in the atmosphere are discarded at about SIXTY miles. The tanks that are jettisoned at about 30 miles deploy parachutes and are recovered in the ocean.
Oh snap, ohhh snap!

Indras
04-17-2006, 07:42 PM
Basically every launch of a rocket or shuttle must go into orbit before going anywhere else. In order to orbit the earth, it must go up first, to clear the atmosphere as quickly as possible, then turn horizontal to achieve the correct speed to stay in orbit.

xdamousex
04-17-2006, 08:48 PM
None of you all know shit so shut up

Norgol
04-18-2006, 03:10 AM
a little thread about a video turns into science class, Please Tell Me Where Rockets Go After They Go Through A Worm Hole Bill Nye.

rizzleman
04-18-2006, 07:34 AM
What exactly is "straight up?" I mean, the shuttle is headed in a line no matter what direction it's going, aka it's going straight. Do you mean it's ascending exactly perpendicular to the launch zone? If that was your understanding, you'd be wrong.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle):



And cletusxi, you also said:



First off, four miles is not high at all. Anything falling from four miles will most certainly NOT burn up in the atmosphere (I mean, people typically skydive from TWO miles). The tanks that burn up in the atmosphere are discarded at about SIXTY miles. The tanks that are jettisoned at about 30 miles deploy parachutes and are recovered in the ocean.

THank you Armani.
You've answered my question thoroughly. I appreciate your intelligence and wisdom =) And taking the time out to answer my question :)

Refuse
04-18-2006, 08:00 AM
THank you Armani.
You've answered my question thoroughly. I appreciate your intelligence and wisdom =) And taking the time out to answer my question :)



And googling abilities...

Remission
04-18-2006, 10:39 AM
None of you all know shit so shut up

And you do?