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YankeesSuck
05-20-2006, 01:53 AM
Supposely North Korea may be preparing a missile launch that could reach somewhere in the United States. Full Story (http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0002/20060519/1714460864.htm&floc=NW_1-T) So is this serious or not? And where in the US would it hit, if they do fire.
wocked
05-20-2006, 02:31 AM
I seriously doubt that any government is stupid enough to attack a Western country.
I seriously doubt that any government is stupid enough to attack a Western country.
Stupid? No.
Crazy? You bet.
Il is a certfiable nutjob with a Napoleanic complex so bad Napolean would be shadowed by his eccentricities. The guy kidnapped a SK film director and forced him to teach him the art of creating movies.
If he had the missiles to do it, I wouldn't put it past him. he'd probably knock out Hollywood, his chief movie-making competition, and perfectly situated closest to him on the west coast and one of our largest cities.
As far as him having the weapons, I'm not sure he does. I really do think he talks so big all the time is to keep us on our toes. He claims to have tested and perfected a lot of capabilities there is no proof of him testing or having at all.
We know he wants nuclear capabilities, and if his humanitarian record for his own people holds true, it's certainly not to provide Korea with power.
wocked
05-20-2006, 03:31 AM
Consider what an attack from North Korea on US soil would entail.
The US would be given the right to retaliate. Other powerful nations like England, France (yes, even France), Canada, Australia, etc... would join.
This would not be a matter of helping out the United States after getting attacked again. This would purely be an act of pre-emption out of fear that they would be next.
Bk2FuT
05-20-2006, 09:59 AM
I read about this the other day. North Korea is still developing its missiles which can already reach Alaska. America is obviously has a much more advanced military capability...so if North Korean missiles can reach half way around the world how far can American missiles reach? Does America have the capability to send a nuke anywhere in the world? :uhoh:
clutch-monkey
05-20-2006, 10:02 AM
^ yes. with multiple warheads, no less.
csite
05-20-2006, 01:38 PM
i think it's a missile test! there nothing wrong with that. Anyways i am sure china would quietly be happy if north korea wiped japan off the map
North Korea will never attack America, only deter them with their ever growing missiles!
YouEnjoyMyself
05-20-2006, 02:18 PM
Umm...isn't it Hans Blix?
jn_powell
05-20-2006, 02:52 PM
Umm...isn't it Hans Blix?
It is a reference to Team America: World Police.
YouEnjoyMyself
05-20-2006, 02:53 PM
Oh, I see. Well I guess I should brush up on my puppet movies.
jn_powell
05-20-2006, 02:55 PM
Oh, I see. Well I guess I should brush up on my puppet movies.
Damn it man, get some culture.:)
Umm...isn't it Hans Blix?
Team America, Kim Jong Il puppet accent.
Csite, do you ever stop to think about what you're saying? A guy like Kim Jong Il should not have control of anything, let alone missiles that can go half-way around the world.
If he even is just testing this rocket, that still means he has weapons well beyond what is considered safe for NK to have in regards to the rest of the world. If he's not so bad a guy, why is he trying to desperately to further his stockpile of weapons while his people are starving and rotting in the streets?
Also, do you know anything about that cease-fire everyone signed back in the Korean War? If NK attacks Japan, the US, SK, or China, the other three are contractually obligated to come to the aid of those attacked in a military manner, meaning a 4-on-1 beat-down on whoever aggresses and attacks first.
Pajman
05-20-2006, 03:24 PM
i think it's a missile test! there nothing wrong with that. Anyways i am sure china would quietly be happy if north korea wiped japan off the map
Attacking Japan is equivalent to attacking the US.
MooCowzRock
05-20-2006, 03:59 PM
Attacking Japan is equivalent to attacking the US.
So true...If they touched Japan, that really is the equivalent of attacking the US...
Especially if they do it before the PS3 comes out...:D :ahhh:
appleb
05-21-2006, 02:02 AM
Launching a test missile and having it fall short of Alaska is something NK would do. However I seriously doubt Kim Jong Il is crazy enough to attack the US directly with a single missile in Alaska. NK only needs to show it has missile range capability, since their regime thrives on this type of fear to gain leverage in any of their negotiations.
If NK launched such a successful test, then Japan would freak out, China wouldn't care, South Korea would pretend to ignore it due to their sunshine policy, and the US would be alarmed but unable to do anything in retaliation. A week after the missile test happens, everyone will forget about the real threat of NK with their proclaimation of nukes and start arguing about easier targets like Iran again.
Has everyone already forgotten about the 1998 NK missile test thrown over Japan?
vchampionl70
05-21-2006, 02:12 AM
Launching a test missile and having it fall short of Alaska is something NK would do. However I seriously doubt Kim Jong Il is crazy enough to attack the US directly with a single missile in Alaska. NK only needs to show it has missile range capability, since their regime thrives on this type of fear to gain leverage in any of their negotiations.
If NK launched such a successful test, then Japan would freak out, China wouldn't care, South Korea would pretend to ignore it due to their sunshine policy, and the US would be alarmed but unable to do anything in retaliation. A week after the missile test happens, everyone will forget about the real threat of NK with their proclaimation of nukes and start arguing about easier targets like Iran again.
Has everyone already forgotten about the 1998 NK missile test thrown over Japan?
I certainly have. Then again, I was only 12 ....
If a North Korean missile comes anywhere near the United States it will be a grave mistake for Kim Jung Il. Something like that would warrant sever repercussions. It's one thing to do so to a defenseless Asian nation. It's quite another thing to do it to the world's largest military power.....
carpepax
05-21-2006, 02:15 AM
If NK attacks Japan, the US, SK, or China, the other three are contractually obligated to come to the aid of those attacked in a military manner, meaning a 4-on-1 beat-down on whoever aggresses and attacks first.
They have to attack first? :p
They have to attack first? :p
Yes, of any of those 5 nations, whichever one initiates battle, war, or what have you, against any of the other 4, all 4 have to allign themselves against that first one.
We could end up fighting alongside Japan, SK, and NK against China.
SK could very well be up against the US, NK, Japan, and China.
and so on, depending on who starts what with who.
The question is: which of those countries would break the cease-fire agreement clause? Would NK really work alongside the US? Would China work with Japan? Would the US even get involved if it meant fighting against China?
Turbocharger
05-21-2006, 02:59 AM
If North Korea attacked us with a missile, Korea wouldn't exist for more than a few hours.
YouEnjoyMyself
05-21-2006, 03:04 AM
If North Korea attacked us with a missile, Korea wouldn't exist for more than a few hours.
The people of the world would cease to exist shortly after that as well.
Bk2FuT
05-21-2006, 10:49 AM
The people of the world would cease to exist shortly after that as well.
Not for Australia :D Where to far out of the way for anybody to bomb us and like everybody loves us.
csite
05-21-2006, 01:00 PM
Not for Australia :D Where to far out of the way for anybody to bomb us and like everybody loves us.
The Lebanese don't :wave:
If North Korea attacked us with a missile, Korea wouldn't exist for more than a few hours.
:lol: muhahaha, yeah and america wouldn't exist after that! you think china will allow nuclear dust on their boarders if north korea is nuked? You nuke north korea chinese people will certainly be affected.
It’s worth while for America to have Alaska nuked and do nothing about it rather than risk total destruction of the usa and the world.
Anyways, cool kim isn't crazy, he isn't going to nuke anyone.
Turbocharger
05-22-2006, 01:57 AM
The Lebanese don't :wave:
:lol: muhahaha, yeah and america wouldn't exist after that! you think china will allow nuclear dust on their boarders if north korea is nuked? You nuke north korea chinese people will certainly be affected.
It’s worth while for America to have Alaska nuked and do nothing about it rather than risk total destruction of the usa and the world.
Anyways, cool kim isn't crazy, he isn't going to nuke anyone.
..........."cool kim isn't crazy, he isn't going to nuke anyone"?
What are you on?
bergshadow
05-22-2006, 03:34 AM
Kim Il Jung is not going to commit suicide by nuking anyone.
Especially not with a missile he can't aim, and for no reason.
For one thing, his military would probably not allow that. He can be replaced, and he knows it.
He might want to trade something for food, though. And threat reduction is about all N Korea has to trade.
The US might have done a little better by following through on its promises of nuclear power and inspection teams, back a few years. Negotiation gets a lot tougher when you have a reputation for reneging.
wataba
05-22-2006, 04:35 AM
Sounds just like Kim Jong Il is trying to get more attention. He likely won't start anything, but he feels safe enough to run his mouth and flex some muscles. But to me it's just business as usual.
Perhaps, though, this could start an arms race in east Asia? Who knows, but Japan is hardly a defenseless country.
Sketcher
05-22-2006, 11:27 AM
If he had the missiles to do it, I wouldn't put it past him. he'd probably knock out Hollywood
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Oh, I see. Well I guess I should brush up on my puppet movies.
You know they're puppets? So you HAVE seen it :D
Garihm
05-23-2006, 12:42 AM
Dammit Arec Bardlin!
I was sent from planet Gyron to conquer the Earth
I had a terrific plan
I thought it would work
Tried to get the earthlings all to kill each other
You see
But it all went wrong and now I must decree
You are worthless, Alec Baldwin
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You failed in every way and now my stock in you has fallen.
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And your children are all Baldwin
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But also with Balmacks who are giant bees
The Zypods and the Balmacks are at constant war
So we wanted a new home and that’s what Earth was for
But you are worthless, Alec Baldwin
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And now Gyron is smeared with Balmack Pollen
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LegendaryU2K
05-23-2006, 12:44 AM
If it happens, it happens. But if it does happen, i say we dont fire, i say we sit down and talk out our problems.
Garihm
05-23-2006, 01:09 AM
If it happens, it happens. But if it does happen, i say we dont fire, i say we sit down and talk out our problems.
So I was walking home from work today. Short day, only worked about 4 hours. Theres a shortcut across this alley behind this old factory I usually take to get home quicker. But today was different -- I came across a 12 year old boy sitting quietly across a dozen newborn babies. He quickly rose as he saw me and started smashing the heads in of the precious bundles of joy. Blood was splattering against the pavements as his foot crunched their heads in so I immediately told him to sit down so we could talk out our problems but he ignored me and continued. I tried talking to him but he killed every last one, kicked me in the nuts and ran...I could have saved 11 babies but I chose not to use force...
erm, obviously fake story but seroiusly, are you living in Lala Land?
Bk2FuT
05-23-2006, 10:03 AM
Not really related to missiles or anything, but I just watched this documentary on TV about North Korean refugees. They showed how all these people where fleeing the country to escape inhumane treatment. It's really sad watching the ones who didn't make it across or who where caught by the authorities on the other side. They where sent back to North Korean and into detention camps. Only God knows what happens to them in there, I don't think many make it out alive.
People really, really need to realise the torture and abuse of human rights in North Korea. These people don't even have food or shoes. Apparently, the country is in this state of poverty and things are only getting worse. They said that if the state loses control over its people, millions more will simply die from starvation and the peace in Asia would destabilise.
At the end they filmed this family of 7 North Koreans hiding in China. They filled out papers so that they could seek Asylum and made banners which read "Please Save Us" and "Please, Please, Please Save Our People!" You see, if they where caught by Chinese officials they would almost certainly be sent back to North Korea so they tried to legally gain citizenship. The youngest in the family was this 15 year old chick who was crying about the idea of being sent back. So anyway they tried to gain access to the embassy in Beijing with all the proper paperwork and these freedom banners, but they where denied access. Legions of guards just pounced on them after they realized who they where and they where sent back to North Korea.
This whole ordeal was filmed and published world wide of these poor people. They where sent back not as refugees, but as political prisoners because of the media publishing the story. Due to this, they would not be treated as normal refugees and they would not be going to a detention camp...instead they would be sent to a death camp. No one ever saw them again...
But yeah, to the point. This really got to me. :wah: As in, I feel extremely bad and depressed for these people. How could they do these horrible things? I don't care what happens as long as the free countries of the world do something about it. I can't believe this regime of evil. That’s exactly what it is, pure evil. If we ever decide to use military action, I will be all for it on one condition. Everybody involved will put 110% to getting food, clothes etc to the people of North Korea. I also want to see countries accepting many North Korean immigrants. Something MUST be done! If we truly are the so called "freedom fighters" that we proclaim to be, than everything in our power must go to saving these poor people. Money is no object, human lives is.
http://www.seoultrain.com/ - If you can get a chance, watch this documentary. Google it or see if you can find it on YouTube or something...
wataba
05-23-2006, 03:10 PM
If it happens, it happens. But if it does happen, i say we dont fire, i say we sit down and talk out our problems.
That's usually something you try to do BEFORE you're being killed. And that's definitely when it's most effective.....
zamphir66
05-23-2006, 03:22 PM
If it happens, it happens. But if it does happen, i say we dont fire, i say we sit down and talk out our problems.
If NK decides that incinerating tens of thousands of American civilians is the wisest choice on the table, then clearly our differences are irreconcilable.
We probably wouldn't retaliate with nukes, for fear of effecting neighboring allies. Instead, I can see us giving the go ahead, and whatever support needed, for China to turn NK into a parking lot.
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