Good News Americans! Bird flu won't reach U.S. anytime soon

[vking23]

Expert: Bird flu won't reach U.S. anytime soon.
Not likely to arrive this year via migration, says leading virologist.

“There is no H5N1 in the United States. And I don’t think it is going to get there this year by wild birds ... maybe not even next year,” he said on the sidelines of a conference organized by Fort Dodge Animal Health, a unit of Wyeth.

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[werdinator?]

Expert: Bird flu won't reach U.S. anytime soon.
Not likely to arrive this year via migration, says leading virologist.



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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12933353/

awww dat sucks... dem ignorants wont suffer

[david_slupper]

But once it starts transfering from person to person, I give it a few days before it hits the US.

[Devastation]

It doesn't transfer from person to person.

God, SARS was so much cooler.

[zamphir66]

I just heard on radio today that they are investigating a family in Indonesia wherein the virus appears to have transferred human to human.

Here's the story. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/23/indonesia.birdflu.ap/index.html)

What I don't understand is why the WHO is investigating. I mean, wtf does Pete Townshend know about virology?

[david_slupper]

It doesn't transfer from person to person.

God, SARS was so much cooler.

But once it starts transfering from person to person, I give it a few days before it hits the US.
Reading comprehension anyone?

[Devastation]

I just heard on radio today that they are investigating a family in Indonesia wherein the virus appears to have transferred human to human.

Here's the story. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/23/indonesia.birdflu.ap/index.html)

What I don't understand is why the WHO is investigating. I mean, wtf does Pete Townshend know about virology?
Hmm, if this is true, then yes, it'll hit the USA soon.

Naturally, I'll blame this on the Jews.

[qkslvr221]

Bird flu = population control for asia.

AIDS = population control for africa/san fransisco.

[troxy18]

What I don't understand is why the WHO is investigating. I mean, wtf does Pete Townshend know about virology?
Dont you know, he has the miracle cure (http://www.thewho.net/discography/songs/MiracleCure.html)

[zamphir66]

Dont you know, he has the miracle cure (http://www.thewho.net/discography/songs/MiracleCure.html)

There's a Doctor I've found can remove his sorrow,
He lives in this town let's see him tomorrow.

[Cousin Eddie]

Naturally, I'll blame this on the Jews.

LOL! funny ;)

Blame the asians ... who practically LIVE with their livestock. That's where all the flu strains come from.

[kududoodoop]

O NOEZ LETS KILL OURSELVES!~!!!~```111 NEW HYPED NEWS STORY!!!11!1

it's called media sensationalism, they do it for ratings and a new story, they did it with sars before.

[GLOBALIST]

Expert: Bird flu won't reach U.S. anytime soon.
Not likely to arrive this year via migration, says leading virologist.



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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12933353/


thank you captian obvious. :P

No, seriously, i knew birdblu was BULLSHIT (or birdshit?) from the moment the media started hyping SARS!! Remember that joke? What happened there?
Or the media hype of the killer bees, omg here they come to kill us all!! :ahhh:

[TORCH]

Yeah, I agree with GLOBALIST. Birdflu is nothing but just hype. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than catching bird flu.

The truth is that to this day, there is no reported PERSON TO PERSON contraction of the virus. There is only bird to human contraction as of right now. But yes, there is a chance that it can infact mutate to be able to be human to human, BUT it has not happened.

The only use of this bullshit (birdshit) flu is in order make the nutty people go out and buy all of the anti-bacterial soap they can find, and for those stupid enough to watch mini-movies about bird flu on TV (which just fucking pissed me off beyond belief).

A long story short.... You have a better chance of jerking off on someone and contracting AIDS than petting a chicken and getting Bird Flu. So please people, don't fuck the chickens!

[britishbulldog]

Hmm, if this is true, then yes, it'll hit the USA soon.

Naturally, I'll blame this on the Jews.

As it says in the article it all depends upon how easily the virus is transferred. If it cannot transfer easily then its unlikely to become pandemic.

[kevinsmith]

More media hype: global warming.
Read State of Fear by Michael Crichton. It's fiction, but with a lot of true studies and survey's that show some interesting information.

[kududoodoop]

More media hype: global warming.
Read State of Fear by Michael Crichton. It's fiction, but with a lot of true studies and survey's that show some interesting information.

sorry buddy globabl warming is fact, ask any scientist. measure the loss of glaciers and the recesion of the north and south pole and tell me it's not real, or imagery showing a massive o-zone hole above the south pole.

[Devastation]

sorry buddy globabl warming is fact, ask any scientist.
Nuh-Uh!!!!!!!

If it is real, I blame it on the Jews.

[whocares]

sorry buddy globabl warming is fact, ask any scientist. measure the loss of glaciers and the recesion of the north and south pole and tell me it's not real, or imagery showing a massive o-zone hole above the south pole.
Well, those mammoths should have used many SUV's during the ice age...

[EvaMonkey]

I'm gonna smuggle a diseased chicken in my suitcase

[kevinsmith]

sorry buddy globabl warming is fact, ask any scientist. measure the loss of glaciers and the recesion of the north and south pole and tell me it's not real, or imagery showing a massive o-zone hole above the south pole.

Before reading the book, I would have agreed with you. But then you see studies that indicate some areas the climate is cooling. Some glaciers are advancing. Many of the theories of global warming are being proven wrong. Is the environment in danger? Yes. Is global warming what the media are making it out to be? No.
The studies that are made public are funded by groups that want to see global warming, to push their side of the isues. While studies that show global warming isn't happening are discredited by saying "they must be funded by big business or oil or what not" no one wonders who funds the other studies. Money is to be made on both sides, and scientists with a predermined idea of what a study needs to say to keep their funding have an amazing way of making a study turn out that way.
Again, I'm not saying the environment doesn't need our help, just dont' fall for the one sided media hype.

[whocares]

Before reading the book, I would have agreed with you. But then you see studies that indicate some areas the climate is cooling. Some glaciers are advancing. Many of the theories of global warming are being proven wrong. Is the environment in danger? Yes. Is global warming what the media are making it out to be? No.
The studies that are made public are funded by groups that want to see global warming, to push their side of the isues. While studies that show global warming isn't happening are discredited by saying "they must be funded by big business or oil or what not" no one wonders who funds the other studies. Money is to be made on both sides, and scientists with a predermined idea of what a study needs to say to keep their funding have an amazing way of making a study turn out that way.
Again, I'm not saying the environment doesn't need our help, just dont' fall for the one sided media hype.
I say that yes, the average temperature of the Earth is rising, just like everyone says, just that it is normal and natural. The Earth has warmed and cooled itself in previous periods of time, so, that shows that it's most probably something natural and not something created by men.

Also, yes, pollution is a problem, but that, in no way, proves global warming.

[kevinsmith]

I say that yes, the average temperature of the Earth is rising, just like everyone says, just that it is normal and natural. The Earth has warmed and cooled itself in previous periods of time, so, that shows that it's most probably something natural and not something created by men.

Also, yes, pollution is a problem, but that, in no way, proves global warming.

Another one of the studies they indicates, actually, no the temperature isn't rising in many areas. And in many other areas, it's been like a degree over the past hundred or so years.
Again, read State of Fear. It's a great book with an intereting plot, and a lot of interestin facts, all of which are properly referenced.

[whocares]

Another one of the studies they indicates, actually, no the temperature isn't rising in many areas. And in many other areas, it's been like a degree over the past hundred or so years.
Again, read State of Fear. It's a great book with an intereting plot, and a lot of interestin facts, all of which are properly referenced.
Well, that's what I meant when I said that the Earth's average temp is rising... 1 degree per 100 years, according to some studies... dunno how old they are...

[kevinsmith]

Well, that's what I meant when I said that the Earth's average temp is rising... 1 degree per 100 years, according to some studies... dunno how old they are...

Okay, I'm digging through the book, and these are some stats I found from weather stations located around the world.

Alice Springs, Australia= No change 1879-2003
Clyde, NWT = minus one degree 1943-2004
Christchurch, NZ up one tenth 1864-2003
Kamenskoe, Siberia up two tenths 1949-1998
Rome, Italy up less than one tenth 1811-1989
Paris, Le Bourget down one tenth 1757-1995
Miloano-Linate down less than one tenth 1763-1986
Sttutgart, germany down one half 1792-1999
Nevacerrado, Spain down one tenth 1941-2004
Gotrborg, Swededn up less than one tenth 1951-2004
Pasadena, California up three degrees 1930-2000
Berkely, California up three thenths 1930-2000
Death Valley, California up two tenths 1933-2000
McGill, Nevada down one degree 1930-2000
Guthriee, Oklahoma down four tenths 1930-2000
Boulder, Colorado down four thenths 1930-1997
West Point, NY no change 1826-2000

The sources from those graphs is the book I have been mentioning. The book got them from the United States Historical Climatology Network and NASA.

Many of the changes you see in studies are taken from major cities, which have indeed gotten warmer due to the heat island effect. Other data will change with the timeline. For example, take West Point. Only go back to 1900, and it looks like they've gone up about a degree. But go back to when they started keeping records, and the average temp remains at 51 centigrade.
My point is, don't just accept that there is global warmin because the news and the "scientists" tell us there is. The same people that call others sheep because they listen to the media about the war or what not willingly swallow the global warming line. Understanding the global climate is a huge undertaking, and we don't yet.

[caralheiros]

Bird flu = population control for asia.

AIDS = population control for africa/san fransisco.

I was going to say that. There are too many asians in the world and bird flu could remedy that. It would be good to ease the population pressure on natural resources.

[bergshadow]

Before reading the book, I would have agreed with you. But then you see studies that indicate some areas the climate is cooling. Some glaciers are advancing. Many of the theories of global warming are being proven wrong. No theory of global warming by greenhouse gas effect says that the warming will be universal, everywhere the same with no cooling anywhere.

No theory of global warming by greenhouse gas effect says that all glaciers will melt away by it and no glaciers will increase even in the short term.

No theory of global warming by greenhouse gas effect says that the other variations in temperature will stop happening, or become invisible.

The large increase in greenhouse gas concentration in the Earth's lower atmosphere is measured, incontrovertible, and definitely from human sources. The effects of this increase remain to be seen, but trapping heat energy (especially at night) is one very likely one. There is nothing improbable about a net mean temp increase, a rapid one, for the Earth's lower atmosphere. If it doesn't happen, on top of and in addition to the other "natural" variations, there will have to be a explanation.

Crichton's book is no doubt a reasonably entertaining page-turner, but his science has in the past been - - how to say this - - entertaining at best. His giant, pack-hunting, man-killing gorillas in the Congo, his sex-changing dinosauers reconstructed by frog DNA splicing of mosquito stomach contents, apparently his latest theories on climate change, are not exactly what one finds in peer-reviewed journals.

Just for example: Take a careful look at that list of temp gradients you posted. got any idea why so many of the western US ones start in 1930? Why it's based on average daily highs, rather than nightly lows? And why the longer and better established US stations in other regions are not as well represented as the chancier and less standard ones from the southwestern US?

Bird flu is less certain than global warming, but more immediately catastrophic if it hits. The 1919 virus was apparently a bird flu - that's a bit scary. Fortunately, birds who get sick apparently have a hard time migrating, and aren't very contagious when they do. But it's good to keep an eye on a ticking bomb.

[Jay-Z]

Bird flu = population control for asia.

AIDS = population control for africa/san fransisco.
zombies = population control for everyone