Are you ashamed of your nationality??

[JustinJJ]

I was taking a look at some of the threads about the US vs Europe and noticed that some people were ashamed of their nationality. I don't see how though, I mean it is your home country! Anyway, just curious to see if people are really ashamed of their nationality.

[j.elohim]

You probably need to recognise the distinction between being ashamed of your government and being ashamed of your nation. I loathe my government but i am english and am not ashamed to be so. So i am not ashamed of my nationality but i am ashamed by the so called "ambassadors" for it.

[ramittinbawdeep]

i love my country but dislike the government that is currently running it
all spin no substance. think that britain along with america,and australia are the countries on this planet with a sense of fair play decency and willingness to help others and i will always support britain to the best of my ability

[fubar]

I have no problem with my country except for the government, and probably half of the people living here. But I think it's a great place to live, but if it continues in the direction it's heading, I'm going to have to move the fuck out of here.

[Dual]

I think the US is great but the government running it isn't.

Besides, shouldn't it be "couldn't care less" instead of "could care less"?

[fubar]

I think the US is great but the government running it isn't.

Besides, shouldn't it be "couldn't care less" instead of "could care less"?

I've always hated that phrase, it don't make no sense.

[Sketcher]

I've always hated that phrase, it don't make no sense.

Yeah, same here.

BTW, yes, I'm proud to be American.

[ColdReaper]

I am proud of my country (Germany) and pretty much everything about it... No complaints about the government mostly since I have no clue what the government is doing at the moment.

[Bergs]

I am Germanian... err wrong commercial...

Yes, you fucking Canadians have a great commercial. I want to steal it.

[tourettes]

sadly, i am ashamed to be canadian. the liberals will be in power foverer and so will our stereotypes of being wusses. i wonder if there is a connection between them?

[shade]

But I think it's a great place to live, but if it continues in the direction it's heading, I'm going to have to move the fuck out of here. Dont let the door hit you on the way out. Oh, why didnt you post any follow ups on the founding fathers thread?

[Dozzi]

In almost every aspect America is the best place to live. Physically we have everything, beautiful beaches, wetlands, forests, plains, mountains. You name it, America's got it.

Politically I'm very happy with this country, but I sincerely doubt any of us have any idea what direction it's going in. Think about it. In eight months we could have another man in office, who thinks opposite of Bush (and himself for that matter), and this country could be turned in the opposite direction. Right now if everything continues as is, this country is headed for prosperous times in the face of adversity.

Only thing about this country that doesn't make it the best, is the emotion of the people. I'm not going to pretend I know what the sentiment of other country's citizens is, but here in America, seeing people who don't support Bush is one thing, but seeing those who ridicule soldiers, who's job it is to be in Iraq and the Middle East is just sickening. I would love to go to every one of their jobs sometimes and heckle them and tell protest against whatever it is they're doing. I want to seriously demoralize these people who demoralize those who help to protect this great nation. An enemy within is what this country has. But that in turn is a great thing, because only in America do we have such freedoms. Only in America can you hate said Country. Go to Iraq a year and a half ago and say, "I hate Iraq and Saddam Hussein." Yeah see you tomorrow asshole.

[Viceroy]

In almost every aspect America is the best place to live. Physically we have everything, beautiful beaches, wetlands, forests, plains, mountains. You name it, America's got it.

Castles.

Right now if everything continues as is, this country is headed for prosperous times in the face of adversity.

Isn’t your chief executive presiding over the worst job loss since the Great Depression?

seeing people who don't support Bush is one thing, but seeing those who ridicule soldiers, who's job it is to be in Iraq and the Middle East is just sickening.

I’ve yet to see anyone ridicule the soldiers, unless it’s in such a way to suggest they were conned by their government for fight a pointless war. That’s less ridiculing of soldiers and more attacks on your government.

An enemy within is what this country has.

You consider those who like to exercise their right to free speech by speaking out against their government to be in league with the enemy? What brand of ignorance is this? :confused:

only in America do we have such freedoms. Only in America can you hate said Country.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What an ill informed dumbass you are. I suppose America is the only country where people have civil liberties? America is the only country where people can speak out against issues they disagree with?

You are an idiotic twat.

[Bergs]

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

Isn’t your chief executive presiding over the worst job loss since the Great Depression?

That began during the last chief executives term and has recovered substantially. Now go bitch about your own problems. Our domestic issues are none of your fucking business.

I’ve yet to see anyone ridicule the soldiers,

You have you putrid twat along with everyone that called Pat Tillman an idiot.

You consider those who like to exercise their right to free speech by speaking out against their government to be in league with the enemy?

He didnt say that. He said the people that hate the soldiers are an enemy within. They are.

[ramittinbawdeep]

Castles.



Isn’t your chief executive presiding over the worst job loss since the Great Depression?



I’ve yet to see anyone ridicule the soldiers, unless it’s in such a way to suggest they were conned by their government for fight a pointless war. That’s less ridiculing of soldiers and more attacks on your government.



You consider those who like to exercise their right to free speech by speaking out against their government to be in league with the enemy? What brand of ignorance is this? :confused:



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What an ill informed dumbass you are. I suppose America is the only country where people have civil liberties? America is the only country where people can speak out against issues they disagree with?

You are an idiotic twat.


you want to do us all a favour and shut the fuck up. i've only been on here about a week and i've noticed you have took every opportunity to turn threads around to slag off america and george bush in particular maybe you should spend time discussing the merits ,if any of the present UK government. thers a lot more wrong with tony than george IMO except tont can string two words together properly

[Jacksplat]

you want to do us all a favour and shut the fuck up. i've only been on here about a week and i've noticed you have took every opportunity to turn threads around to slag off america and george bush in particular maybe you should spend time discussing the merits ,if any of the present UK government. thers a lot more wrong with tony than george IMO except tony can string two words together properly

LMFAO Umm yeah what he said.

[Dozzi]

Castles.



Isn’t your chief executive presiding over the worst job loss since the Great Depression?



I’ve yet to see anyone ridicule the soldiers, unless it’s in such a way to suggest they were conned by their government for fight a pointless war. That’s less ridiculing of soldiers and more attacks on your government.



You consider those who like to exercise their right to free speech by speaking out against their government to be in league with the enemy? What brand of ignorance is this? :confused:



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What an ill informed dumbass you are. I suppose America is the only country where people have civil liberties? America is the only country where people can speak out against issues they disagree with?

You are an idiotic twat.


In reference to the enemy within, I'm afraid you have to... be a part of this country to realize it. By enemy I mean those with Anti-American sentiment who take advantage of... the advantages that America provides them. I'm not saying speaking out against issues they disagree with. Cunt. I'm saying those who take action against our own country. There's a difference between a peaceful protest, and a protest that gets violent. A protest that gets violent, an anti-war protest, is an example of such. I'm just saying that can you be so bent against something, an issue, to destroy your own country and it's reputation along with it?

Now I'm tired of hearing you be judgemental all the time. In debates people choose to conduct themselves in a manner that is human. Half the shit you say is directed in a derogatory manner towards whoever it is you're debating, for the reason you feel it makes your argument stronger. Here's something Vice. We can all curse and make fun of each other. What seperates everyone here, Me, Shade, Bergs, Instigator, all sides of the spectrum, from you is that we maintain order as we debate and we provide factual basis for our opinions. You curse profusely and are a fucking retard. See? I can do it too asshole.

[Dozzi]

And By the way, when you've nowhere to turn you can't delete this thread as you've shown the ability to do in past actions.

[Viceroy]

In reference to the enemy within, I'm afraid you have to... be a part of this country to realize it. By enemy I mean those with Anti-American sentiment who take advantage of... the advantages that America provides them. I'm not saying speaking out against issues they disagree with. Cunt. I'm saying those who take action against our own country. .

You equate protesters with terrorists. You’re a dumbass ignoramous.

There's a difference between a peaceful protest, and a protest that gets violent. A protest that gets violent, an anti-war protest, is an example of such. I'm just saying that can you be so bent against something, an issue, to destroy your own country and it's reputation along with it?

The whole idea of a protest is to keep it peaceful. Otherwise it’s more like a riot. You don’t hear of people going to march in a riot do you, asshole?

They don’t destroy your country’s reputation. They show that your country still has freedoms. That’s worth much more. Here in Britain we seem to have a major protest every few years. Most people don’t bat an eyelid.

Half the shit you say is directed in a derogatory manner towards whoever it is you're debating, for the reason you feel it makes your argument stronger.

You just called me a cunt above.

we maintain order as we debate and we provide factual basis for our opinions.

They do. You don’t.

[Instigator]

I was taking a look at some of the threads about the US vs Europe and noticed that some people were ashamed of their nationality.

Who?

I'm not ashamed of my country, because I don't consider myself responsible for the actions of my government. I'm proud of my culture and my heritage, if that's what you were asking.

[Dozzi]

You equate protesters with terrorists. You’re a dumbass ignoramous.



The whole idea of a protest is to keep it peaceful. Otherwise it’s more like a riot. You don’t hear of people going to march in a riot do you, asshole?

They don’t destroy your country’s reputation. They show that your country still has freedoms. That’s worth much more. Here in Britain we seem to have a major protest every few years. Most people don’t bat an eyelid.



You just called me a cunt above.



They do. You don’t.


I think you my friend... are the ignoramous dumbass.

I said:

In reference to the enemy within, I'm afraid you have to... be a part of this country to realize it. By enemy I mean those with Anti-American sentiment who take advantage of... the advantages that America provides them. I'm not saying speaking out against issues they disagree with. Cunt. I'm saying those who take action against our own country.

You said:

You equate protesters with terrorists. You’re a dumbass ignoramous.

Wrong. Again.

I did not equate protesters with terrorists. I said those who take action against our country are the enemy within and I stick by it. Think back during Vietnam, when protests becamse violent. Again protests became violent. (Protests became violent). These people did not go to join in a riot, they went to join a protest which turned violent due to extremists. We give people the freedoms to protest, and by taking advantage of said freedoms, by looting stores, committing acts of violence and arsony, they become an enemy to our cuontry. Terrorists attack buildings. In our countries past we've had protesters attack buildings. The only difference is the Terrorists have the name Terrorists, while the protestors have sympathy felt for them. I have none for such an enemy.

You said:

The whole idea of a protest is to keep it peaceful. Otherwise it’s more like a riot. You don’t hear of people going to march in a riot do you, asshole?

No I don't hear of people going to march in a riot. What kind of moron thinks that shit up? :confused:


You Said:

They don’t destroy your country’s reputation. They show that your country still has freedoms. That’s worth much more. Here in Britain we seem to have a major protest every few years. Most people don’t bat an eyelid.

A major protest demonstrates a country that is divided. How does that look to other countries. They see Britain, where people are satisified enough to protest as you say once every few years. They see Haiti who protests all the fucking time. Haiti is not held in good regards when compared to Britain. Which of these countries, when protests per year are concerned, is the U.S. closest to.

You said:

You just called me a cunt above.



They do. You don’t. (In reference to my comment about acting accordingly)

I say:

Cunt.

[Tiken]

I love my country (canada) and I support our government though I have doubts about Paul Martin as Prime Minister. And I am one of a few Canadians who will say this but I would take Jean Chritean back if I had a choice.

[tourettes]

I love my country (canada) and I support our government though I have doubts about Paul Martin as Prime Minister. And I am one of a few Canadians who will say this but I would take Jean Chritean back if I had a choice.
yes you are one of the few...
there is a reason for that...
what did he do that was so great?

[shade]

Isn’t your chief executive presiding over the worst job loss since the Great Depression? http://channels.netscape.com/ns/pf/chart_quote.jsp?TickerSymbols=QQQ&time=120&x=13&y=2 You should go read my old economics threads. In short, this graph of the NASDAQ shows that the stock market crash began one year before Bush entered office on Jan 20 2001. Its called a correction, and it costs jobs. It is not Bush's fault. However this same graph shows the impact of the tax cuts. Look at how the steep decline slowed and reversed due to the tax cuts.

Current unemployment is lower than the average rate of the 90s. This is one of those topics where you are a stupid brit who should not be discussing domestic US situations.

[Instigator]

"I get satisfaction knowing that Reagan is at home shitting his pants a drooling."

haha bravo. thank you for that, shade.

[Big D]

You probably need to recognise the distinction between being ashamed of your government and being ashamed of your nation. I loathe my government but i am english and am not ashamed to be so. So i am not ashamed of my nationality but i am ashamed by the so called "ambassadors" for it.I agree. I hate what the US is doing right now, but I love my country.

[Dual]

Castles.


Hmmm....wetlands, beaches, forests, mountains, castles. What doesn't belong?