Scumbags rape disabled girl, mother cries "racism"

[VercettiCartel]

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060727/1046115.asp

Rape charges against youths racially motivated, families say

Investigators say case is built on law, not race

By NANCY A. FISCHER
NEWS NIAGARA BUREAU
7/27/2006
LOCKPORT - Four teenagers charged in the gang rape of a disabled classmate in May have been released from jail, and family members of the suspects said during a hearing Wednesday that the charges are racially motivated.

"Would we be here if the girl was black, too?" said the legal guardian of suspect Dartain M. Ubiles, who declined to give her name. She noted the victim is white, while the four suspects, all 16, are black.

The woman also said the four - Dontre Woods of Lock Street; Ubiles of Frontier Street, Niagara Falls; Nicholas Smith of Crosby Avenue; and Antonio J. Sheppard of Gabriel Drive - were forced to sign statements at Lockport High School to avoid being suspended.

"They turned [the boys against] each other without involving the parents," the guardian said.

Police said the case was brought to them by the Lockport High School principal in May, and the four were charged following a two-month investigation by Lockport Police Lt. David Barrancotta.

The teens are accused of befriending the girl, 15, and luring her to the home of one of the boys, then using a cell phone to record the attack.

Detective Capt. Lawrence Eggert said skin color has absolutely nothing to do with this case.

"All I care about is the law. I didn't know who was black and who was white. For 26 years I've worked hard to be fair. To call this a racial issue is ridiculous. This case will stand or fall on its own merit."

The Rev. Mark Sanders, a Lockport community policing aide and local pastor, said the four boys are themselves victims.

"I think all the facts are not out," he said. "These boys have already been demonized and tried. It's wrong to make a judgment before all sides have been heard."

"This has polarized the community. Rape and torture is not what happened. When all the facts come out, I guarantee this is not going to be seen in the same way," said Sanders.

Sanders said he has visited the boys in jail in his role as pastor.

"They are all broken up," he added. "They come from good homes. They are athletes who box and play football. These are not thugs from the street. None of them have ever been in jail." Sanders said he also sympathized with the 15-year-old girl and called her situation traumatizing. "My heart is broken. Sexuality is a big problem for teens," Sanders said.

Several family members of the suspects were in Lockport City Court on Wednesday as a show of support.

Ubiles' mother, Katrina, who declined to reveal her last name, said, "This incident should never have gotten this far. They've got them scared. None of this is true."

Sheppard was freed on bail Tuesday. The other three were freed Wednesday on their own recognizance.

The four, who were ordered to stay away from the girl and stay out of trouble as a condition of their release, are scheduled to return to court at 9 a.m. Aug. 30.

Lockport—Four 16-year-old youths are charged in the gang rape in May of a 15-year-old disabled girl at the home of one of the boys.

Police say the attackers violated the girl and recorded the assault with a cell phone camera.

The charges followed a two-month investigation by Lockport Police Lt. David Barrancotta.

The teens befriended the girl then lured her to the home of one of the attackers May 12, where they took turns attacking her over an hour and a half, said Detective Capt. Lawrence Eggert.

He said the victim and the suspects were students at Lockport High School.

The four charged are: Dontre R. Woods of Lock Street, where the attack occurred; Dartain M. Ubiles of Frontier Street, Niagara Falls; Nicholas M. Smith of Crosby Avenue; and Antonio J. Sheppard of Gabriel Drive.

Two were charged with first-degree forcible rape and three youths were charged with felony first-degree criminal sexual act. A fourth youth was charged with videotaping the attack on his cell phone.

{snip}

Eggert said the cell phone was confiscated by police, but noted that a 30-second video clip of the rape was erased. He said Sheppard admitted to police that he had taped the other youths raping the girl.

“We’re not sure if the video was widely seen by other people, but we did receive some notification from others that the video existed,” Eggert said.

Kelly Campbell, captain of the Lock Street Block Club, a neighbor of the Woods family, said she was sad about what happened to the girl, but was also sad for the four youths.

“None of these kids would have done this on his own. I don’t think they are that kind of kids, but they made a huge mistake, which will affect their whole lives,” Campbell said.

She blamed both raging hormones and children in the blighted area having nowhere to redirect their energy.


I love the race card. It's always pulled whenever the mother of the alleged criminal decides that her child is somehow perfect and immune from all aspects of punishment for his actions. You raised your kid wrong you hag. Now, you're going to have to deal with the consequences of him rotting in jail.

[D-roc]

Yeah that sux always calling RACIST and waving the race card. Thats why racism is still alive today.

[Nocturnal]

Yeah that sux always calling RACIST and waving the race card. Thats why racism is still alive today.


That's bullshit. Racisim still exists because too many people are ignorant fucks, not because of false claims of racism.

[reggie jax]

Too bad there was only 4 of them, if there was one more then she could've just tossed them a basketball and everything would've been ok.

[rand0m]

Racism exists because it suits Black people just fine.

[_Joe]

The Rev. Mark Sanders, a Lockport community policing aide and local pastor, said the four boys are themselves victims.

Is he kidding? They have the video on record, what else do they need to convict? Apparently they have statements from all of them, too, and now they say they didn't do it?? So much bullshit.

ps: rape is rape

[Synch]

That's bullshit. Racisim still exists because too many people are ignorant fucks, not because of false claims of racism.

You don't think that the statements made by the family members of the suspects of this case has impaired the good well of many for black people.(or white liberals for that matter[Thomas Sowell reference])

[Nocturnal]

That's bullshit. Racisim still exists because too many people are ignorant fucks, not because of false claims of racism.


You don't think that the statements made by the family members of the suspects of this case has impaired the good well of many for black people.(or white liberals for that matter[Thomas Sowell reference])


Yeah that sux always calling RACIST and waving the race card. Thats why racism is still alive today.

I believe I disuputed this claim quite correctly. He said that people are racist because the race card is played too often. (btw, doesn't his statement tacitly absolve blacks from being racist) In fact there are many reasons people are racist.

Of course people playing the race card willy nilly makes the situation worse, but how is that enough to make somebody racist?

"Hmm, some black people complain about racism too much. Because of that I decide to hate black people."

[Synch]

Of course people playing the race card willy nilly makes the situation worse, but how is that enough to make somebody racist?

"Hmm, some black people complain about racism too much. Because of that I decide to hate black people."

Why not? You judge a people by its actions.
I believe I disuputed this claim quite correctly. He said that people are racist because the race card is played too often. (btw, doesn't his statement tacitly absolve blacks from being racist) In fact there are many reasons people are racist.

I think he was referring to white racism against blacks.

[Nocturnal]

Why not? You judge a people by its actions.


I think he was referring to white racism against blacks.


That would be pretty fucking insane. To hate a group of people because a few of them make silly legal complaints from time to time.

Think about this logically. Racism has existed as long as there were races. To claim that Whites are racist against blacks because of overuse of the race card, that implies there one day the old reasons for racism disapeared, and the next day blacks started using the race card. That idea is laughable. So White-Black racism is not effected by racist parents, crime, cultural differences, etc. but instead is just because of the race card.

I know what he was refering to, but he said that "Racism" is caused by playing the race card. So he either means that Whites play the race card also (that's why blacks can be racists also) or that Blacks are never racists.

[Synch]

That would be pretty fucking insane. To hate a group of people because a few of them make silly legal complaints from time to time.

Think about this logically. Racism has existed as long as there were races. To claim that Whites are racist against blacks because of overuse of the race card, that implies there one day the old reasons for racism disapeared, and the next day blacks started using the race card. That idea is laughable. So White-Black racism is not effected by racist parents, crime, cultural differences, etc. but instead is just because of the race card.

I know what he was refering to, but he said that "Racism" is caused by playing the race card. So he either means that Whites play the race card also (that's why blacks can be racists also) or that Blacks are never racists.

I'm not saying it's the only reason, but this adds fuel to the fire.

I think you're getting too picky with his statement there, he just intended to make one little rant and you've dissected it to death. I'm just saying his statement has some truth to it.

[Nocturnal]

I'm not saying it's the only reason, but this adds fuel to the fire.

I think you're getting too picky with his statement there, he just intended to make one little rant and you've dissected it to death. I'm just saying his statement has some truth to it.

If that's the case I guess I've been giving racists a little too much credit.

[taste_u]

Offenders are often portrayed as victims, look at insane people said to be victims of illnesses beyond their control.

In any case, this is typical of the flawed way in which racism is elevated to status as the great taboo in our society - how is calling someone a black bastard any different from a fat shit? All forms of prejudice are equally heinous.

The race card is the product of a culture where no one takes responsibility for their own actions, other examples being folks complaining about being offended by x (to take offence, note, an action) or suing y for their misfortune.

[ThePope]

Black atheletes raping a white woman? No way!
[/sarcasm]

[Jay-Z]

That pastor is an idiot.

[Henkie]

Rape is Rape and awfull, obviously.

But I think there's more to this issue than what the article claims there to be. The pastor says it's not rape and there's more facts, so maybe we should wait for that before we pass judgement. Maybe there is more and it is racist, in which case we can't blame the mother for playing the race-card. Or maybe it isn't, in which case nobody should care about what has to say to begin with.

[D.Brent]

Damnit I am dissapointed. I thought this was the video section.

[_Joe]

Rape is Rape and awfull, obviously.

But I think there's more to this issue than what the article claims there to be. The pastor says it's not rape and there's more facts, so maybe we should wait for that before we pass judgement. Maybe there is more and it is racist, in which case we can't blame the mother for playing the race-card. Or maybe it isn't, in which case nobody should care about what has to say to begin with.
I understand, but what could they possibly have that would avoid a conviction if the prosecution has video evidence and statements from all of the suspects?

[GenralisimoHanz]

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060727/1046115.asp
Sanders said he also sympathized with the 15-year-old girl and called her situation traumatizing. "My heart is broken. Sexuality is a big problem for teens," Sanders said.



Yeah, especially when you can't even defend yourself or don't have the capacity to consent.

[Cee]

It's true, leave race out of it and let the justice system take it's course.

[hitman33]

Racism exists because it suits Black people just fine.

you remind me of racist

[VercettiCartel]

Only in Canada would they give that women permission to use false racism in court.

[Henkie]

you remind me of racist
Of course he does, because, while blaming black people for problems is something everybody does once in a while, blaming them for racism is really quite absurd, unless you seriously believe that they have nothing to complain about anymore.

[firepiss]

How about if it were 4 white kids that raped a 15 year old black girl. Now everybody would be calling that racist! lol.

[Danimal87]

The teens befriended the girl then lured her to the home of one of the attackers May 12, where they took turns attacking her for over an hour and a half, said Detective Capt. Lawrence Eggert.
I can only imagine how scared this poor girl was, and for it to go on for so long and recorded as well must have been like Hell for her. And these people are saying that the boys are the victim?
"They are all broken up," he added. "They come from good homes. They are athletes who box and play football. These are not thugs from the street. None of them have ever been in jail."
It was likely (http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/8-18-2003-44365.asp) to happen sometime.

Black men born in the United States in 2001 will have a one in three chance of going to prison during their lifetime if current trends continue, according to a report by the US justice department.
In 2001 a sixth of African-American men were current or former prisoners, compared with one in 13 Latinos and one in 38 whites. The incarceration of women remains lower than of men but has increased at twice the rate since 1980 and shows similar racial disparities.

[JesusTheJedi]

"All I care about is the law. I didn't know who was black and who was white. For 26 years I've worked hard to be fair. To call this a racial issue is ridiculous. This case will stand or fall on its own merit."


A good man... Glad to see that there are some authorities out there with some common sense and rational thought.

[Viet Era Marine]

That would be pretty fucking insane.

To hate a group of people because a few of them make silly legal complaints from time to time.




Define 'Time to Time' please.

Seems to me that evertime I turn the page in
a newspaper, there's good'ol Jessie or Al
screamimg the 'RACE CARD'.

So, wtf?

Regards,
VEM

[Nocturnal]

Define 'Time to Time' please.

Seems to me that evertime I turn the page in
a newspaper, there's good'ol Jessie or Al
screamimg the 'RACE CARD'.

So, wtf?

Regards,
VEM


Time to time, often, 24/7, does it matter? If a few individuals use the race card, that is a pretty silly reason to be racist.

[turtleturtle]

Time to time, often, 24/7, does it matter? If a few individuals use the race card, that is a pretty silly reason to be racist.

I was called a racist once when I said hi to someone that lives near me. You know what I think about him, he is racist against white people. He was black. I had no problem with him, otherwise I would have no said hello. I like to know my who lives near me. And that wa snot the first time either. Once, one the Navy base here in Corpus, I got in a small fight with this guy and pulled the race card out with me, and the person that was watching this and was going to back me out if shit hit the fan. I could have easily taken him out, but I did not want to get in trouble. He started to call the racist names, and then called me racist.:rollseyes And it all started because he did not know how to park a car and I was trying to help him out.

[PolishKing84]

they need to be whipped properly, in order to 'tame the little rascals'

[Sketcher]

Four white guys rape a black girl = The four guys are racist.

Four black guys rape a white girl = girl is racist for accusing them of rape.

Wow.

[skymater]

Four white guys rape a black girl = The four guys are racist.

Four black guys rape a white girl = girl is racist for accusing them of rape.

Wow.


Err no she's not racist for accusing them of rape .. they say she's racist because she said they were motivated by racism to rape her. Nobody is denying there was rape :squint:

[_Joe]

Err no she's not racist for accusing them of rape .. they say she's racist because she said they were motivated by racism to rape her. Nobody is denying there was rape :squint:
Wrong, the mother of the black boys is saying if it were a black girl raped by black boys, there wouldn't be so much fuss. She didn't say anything about racism.

[skymater]

Wrong, the mother of the black boys is saying if it were a black girl raped by black boys, there wouldn't be so much fuss. She didn't say anything about racism.


What are you on about? The "she" I said is the girl that was raped. I'll say it again.

The girl that was raped was not called a racist when she said "I was raped". Nobody doubts the fact that she was raped.

"Four black guys rape a white girl = girl is racist for accusing them of rape"

[_Joe]

What are you on about? The "she" I said is the girl that was raped. I'll say it again.

The girl that was raped was not called a racist when she said "I was raped". Nobody doubts the fact that she was raped.

"Four black guys rape a white girl = girl is racist for accusing them of rape"
Okay, we're saying the same thing. The way you constructed the sentence, it sounded like you were saying she DID say that

[Nocturnal]

Four white guys rape a black girl = The four guys are racist.

Four black guys rape a white girl = girl is racist for accusing them of rape.

Wow.


It's not quite fair to say that. There were people that claimed that the Black girl was being racist for targeting the white Duke guys too.

It's not what the people involved claim (shocker that scumbags will grasp at any straw), it's what our justice system finds that counts.

[MattyB]

Man, this sucks. I hate hearin shit like this man. Its like theres rape and instead of screaming RAPISTS!!! it has to be RACISM!!! Just cut their dicks off and that will be justice.

[_Joe]

It's not quite fair to say that. There were people that claimed that the Black girl was being racist for targeting the white Duke guys too.

It's not what the people involved claim (shocker that scumbags will grasp at any straw), it's what our justice system finds that counts.
There was very little evidence in the Duke case, and what was there was circumstancial. There is video evidence of this one, along with statements from the perps. Race had nothing to do with the Duke case, it only did in the eyes of black people.

[GotheriK]

That's bullshit. Racisim still exists because too many people are ignorant fucks, not because of false claims of racism.
Truth is, some Black people want racism to stay alive, because they can use it as a pawn to recieve special treatment? Why work hard, study in school, and take responsibility for your actions when you can just blame everything on "racism", and get money, aid, and sympathy catered to you?

[Bk2FuT]

Well what other reason would they rape a disabled person? This is disgusting. These things are getting out of hand, they should all be locked up for life...where talking about someone who is disabled here! :motz_6:

It probaly was racially motivated.

[eadgbe]

I see one small problem with this whole racist thing. If I disliked a group of people, or hated them for skin color, the last thing I would do is have forcible sex with them...

Regardless, that is absolutely despicable, and those kids should be put away for a long time.

On another note, you can rape people and only get a slap on the wrist if you're black? HOT DAMN!

*gets face paint and sex torture toys*