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kududoodoop

08-24-2006, 02:28 AM

wait until the direct X 10 cards come out, just be pacient it'll pay off because the. The Direct X 10 games are coming soon, so just hold out, Crysis and unreal tournament 2007!

and when one company releases theirs, just wait for the other to release theirs so you can make a better choice, and if you can purchase the new intel duel proccessor, it's honestly better than AMD.

kledster

08-24-2006, 02:42 AM

waterbottl

08-24-2006, 02:45 AM

It's gonna be great when DX10 comes out because then DX9 prices will go down so I can buy a good DX9 card.

usefulidiot316

08-24-2006, 10:46 AM

yea crysis looks amazing, but idk. buying the direct x 10 card also means buying a completely new OS which also hasn't come out yet. all that cash will add up fast and i know alot of people who would rather get a 7900gtx now while waiting for all the upcoming tech to go down in price.

also i would reccomend not buying the new intel duel proccessor, but instead wait for the new one from AMD which will be better. besides, AMD is ideal for gaming because it is literally built for overclocking as where intel is 100% non-overclockable.

Actually, the new Intel Core 2 processors beat out every Athlon X2 processor when it comes to overclocking. For instance, spending $200 on the low end Core 2 duo E6300 and overclocking it to the max(around 2.8ghz) will beat out spending $800 on an FX-62 and overclocking it to the max(around 3ghz). The new Core 2 processors are just better than the athlons in every way but power consumption, and there's not much of a difference at all there.

Anyway, DirectX 10 is great and all, but the new cards are reported to have 64 pipelines on each of them on the high end, and are supposed to also use 300W a peice, which means you're going to need a second power supply just to run the cards. You're better off buying the midrange card and upgrading again a year later, or just waiting for less power hungry cards to be released with the same specs. For those who don't care about power, the new cards should use 33% more power than a 7950gx2 card, so you'll probably need a good 600W or 700W PSU to run it, or you can buy one of those PSUs that plus into your 3.5" bay and supply power to just the video card.

ATI just released their x1950 cards, so it will be a while before their DX10 cards are released. Nvidia, on the other hand, hasn't released a new card in months, and their G80 is supposed to come out in October, maybe September of this year.

glotwp55

08-24-2006, 05:48 PM

Nvidia, on the other hand, hasn't released a new card in months, and their G80 is supposed to come out in October, maybe September of this year.
Unless you count the 7950.

born2lose

08-24-2006, 06:10 PM

PS3 is on the way also. PC gaming will come to a halt (at least for me) for a long time.

waterbottl

08-24-2006, 08:55 PM

PS3 is on the way also. PC gaming will come to a halt (only for me) for a long time.

Fixed it for you.

MexAmercn_Moose

08-24-2006, 09:17 PM

Fixed it for you.

exactly...PC Games will always be superior to any console out there

wrathchild

08-24-2006, 09:39 PM

Is changing a graphics card in a laptop easy(ish)?

SwyfT

08-25-2006, 02:12 AM

I think I might just jump on getting a X1950. A $450(?) pricetag and it beats Nvidia's QUAD SLI setup on nearly all aspects. Grabs nearly 200 frames on Quake 4 with 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF :eek:

usefulidiot316

08-25-2006, 10:51 AM

Unless you count the 7950.
The 7950 came out a few months ago. After that, it's been months since Nvidias released a new video card.
I think I might just jump on getting a X1950. A $450(?) pricetag and it beats Nvidia's QUAD SLI setup on nearly all aspects. Grabs nearly 200 frames on Quake 4 with 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF :eek:

The 1950 doesn't always beat the quad SLI setup, the only time it does is in the benchmarks released by ATI. In fact, the 1950 often gets beaten by the 7950. If you're going to spend that much on a single video card, you might as well buy the 7950.

SwyfT

08-25-2006, 07:54 PM

The 1950 doesn't always beat the quad SLI setup, the only time it does is in the benchmarks released by ATI. In fact, the 1950 often gets beaten by the 7950. If you're going to spend that much on a single video card, you might as well buy the 7950.

I looked around and saw no benchmarks suggesting that the 7950 outperforms them. Mind to paste a link then?

The only area in which a quad SLI outperforms a X1950 is when you get into all AA/AF turned up to the max, because the 4 chips can handle that better. But even then it's a small gain for 2.5x the price. And the 7950 is $100 more than a X1950, so why the hell would I "might as well buy the 7950?"

Dailytech's Benchmarks: http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/2259_large_ati_radeon_x1950_vendor_supplied.png

silverspade14

08-25-2006, 08:03 PM

When are the DX10 cards coming out? I don't want to wait too long.

Cerby

08-25-2006, 08:38 PM

just buy an interim card, I spent $130 on an x1600 pro, and its cheap enough and new enough I can sell if for $50 in 6 months when the new cards come out.

usefulidiot316

08-25-2006, 11:47 PM

I looked around and saw no benchmarks suggesting that the 7950 outperforms them. Mind to paste a link then?

The only area in which a quad SLI outperforms a X1950 is when you get into all AA/AF turned up to the max, because the 4 chips can handle that better. But even then it's a small gain for 2.5x the price. And the 7950 is $100 more than a X1950, so why the hell would I "might as well buy the 7950?"

Dailytech's Benchmarks: http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/2259_large_ati_radeon_x1950_vendor_supplied.png

Those aren't DailyTechs benchmarks, those are ATIs benchmarks. DailyTech is run by the guys at Anandtech, who did their own benchmarks, here (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2821). Look at the scores carefully, the x1950 gets beaten in all but one test, and usually by a pretty good margin that makes it worth the extra $100 for the 7950. That's why "the hell would I "might as well buy the 7950?""

OLIAX

08-26-2006, 01:50 AM

if you can purchase the new intel duel processor, it's honestly better than AMD.

how do you know mr expert you got a duel and a similar spec amd to benchmark?

Ginkster

08-26-2006, 05:16 AM

I think DX10 is only coming with Vista i believe? So to be able to run a DX10 card is going to be a stupidly expensive upgrade.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32444

kududoodoop

08-26-2006, 06:27 AM

how do you know mr expert you got a duel and a similar spec amd to benchmark?

don't just ask me, read every review for the chip hotshot, every review i've read says it's better than AMD and i just purchased mine and it's perfect, the overclocking is superb.

Ginkster

08-26-2006, 06:42 AM

Yup it's true, the new Intels are more powerful than the x2 AMDs, for the moment at least.Don't forget this is intels answer to AMDs x2 chips, i'm sure AMD are working on their next series of chips to counter these Intels.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795

rand0m

08-26-2006, 10:42 AM

i dont understand this thread. the guy is saying dont get a graphics card at the moment, wait for ones for direct x10 to come out ...

i swear i read somewhere that the geforce 7 series is direct x10 compaitble.

oh and to say the new intel processors rape all AMD things is a little stupid. its like saying the Pentium 4 beats the Pentium 3. Just wait for AMD's new chips to come out and rate them against the new intel ones.

Ginkster

08-26-2006, 01:59 PM

i swear i read somewhere that the geforce 7 series is direct x10 compaitble.

oh and to say the new intel processors rape all AMD things is a little stupid. its like saying the Pentium 4 beats the Pentium 3. Just wait for AMD's new chips to come out and rate them against the new intel ones.

There aren't any DX10 cards out at the moment mate.

As i mentioned before, the current intel chips are competing with AMD chips that have been out for maybe a year now.