Xbox 360 High Failure Rates

[Wu-tang]

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/high-failure-rates-finger-pointing-and-zombies-196797.php
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I don't really care much, but with the blatant ps3 hating I figured people would like to see this.

I haven't heard much about anyone around here, thought not many people around here have 360s, talk about problems with their 360, so of course I'm going to expect a bunch of "My 360 is fine" repsonses. I don't really care, I just figured it'd be intersting.

[D-roc]

My 360 is fine.

[camjoe87]

Yeah, got mine on launch and it works like a charm. Sucks for them I guess.

[kududoodoop]

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/high-failure-rates-finger-pointing-and-zombies-196797.php
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I don't really care much, but with the blatant ps3 hating I figured people would like to see this.

I haven't heard much about anyone around here, thought not many people around here have 360s, talk about problems with their 360, so of course I'm going to expect a bunch of "My 360 is fine" repsonses. I don't really care, I just figured it'd be intersting.

took you a year to post this fanboy?

hate to break it to you, but the percentage of fails is around 2-3%

which EVERY hardware goes through, including playstation and the famous disc read error, psp with the ejecting UMD's and the dead pixels and whatnot.

[xeoset]

...My Xbox 360 is fine and so is the 20+ peoples on my Friends list.

The Percentage is actually 3% are broken and scaling the 7 million Consoles SOLD (not replaced) that's 300,000 replaced, within 1 week of sending it off. Is this the only argument people can think of against the Xbox 360? Anyone remember the PS2 :rolleyes:

And why is EA complaining about it when Capcom made the game? Oh wait it's a EA Employee...What I'd love to know is

1. Why is it his buisness?
2. Where'd he get his figures from?

[L4NC3R]

Bahaha. I'm expecting nothing better from the PS3. You know... with all the actual new technology it utilizes. That is pretty pathetic on the X360's part, it just being a more powerful counterpart to the original unit.

[xeoset]

So...Xenon Processors, HD-DVD and it's very own operating system are just old news? The only extra different thing the PS3 has is XDR RAM, which is exactly the same as the Xbox 360's RAM. And the Xbox 360 has already beat the CELL Processor with it's Xenon (The Decoding Error that hit Sony's CELL thanks to IBM) and HD-DVD beats the PS3's BluRay (Because all Movies on the PS3 BluRay means it takes 30x more space to hold the Movie itself, and Single and Double layer HD-DVD Discs are 5 + 15 Gb bigger than the BluRay Single and Double Discs).

If you really want to discuss how much Sony's Tech is newer than Xbox 360's, I'll be glad to prove you wrong.

EDIT: Oh, and Xbox 360's own operating system is a brand new future Tech...Which is ALOT better than the PS3 Linux port from the PSP. Remember ho much stick the PSP Dashboard thing got.

Lawl. this is taken from a poll on the IGN.com front page as of now.


When will you be buying a PS3:
I'm not buying one: 31.2%
I'm buying one at launch: 13.1%

The rest just spans over from, sometime in the future to in 2+ years. Now think how many people actually visit that site. Oh and the 31.2% not buying one is twice as high than any other option (Well over twice as high).

[rand0m]

what the xbox360 offers that the xbox doesn't?

- more power
- wireless controllers

what the ps3 offers that the ps2 doesn't?

- more power
- wireless controllers
- new input from controllers (shaking and turning)
- built in harddrives
- built in next-gen disk drive (blue-ray)
- proper online capability
- Built in Wi-Fi function

what the game cube offers that the Wii doesn't?

- more power
- Revolutionary wireless controllers
- Online capabilites
- Free Online content from games to new levels
- built in storage
- Built in Wi-Fi Function*

*think thats right not sure though

This of course does not imply the xbox360 is not a good console. However it shows that Microsoft hasnt exactly experimented with new technologies, prefering to just upgrade everything.

[xeoset]

what the xbox360 offers that the xbox doesn't?

- more power
- wireless controllers

- Wireless headset
- Wireless Wheel
- Wirelees Live
- Live everywhere
- Blade OS
- Changeable HDD
- Customisable faceplates
- Customisable Dashboards
- Voice conversations
- Video conversations
- Customisable Video conversations
- Xenon
- HD-DVD
- Smaller system
- Neww controller design (Trust me its perfection)
- XBL marketplace
- Xbox live arcade
- recently played
- Reputation system
That's just off the top of my head.

This of course does not imply the xbox360 is not a good console. However it shows that Microsoft hasnt exactly experimented with new technologies, prefering to just upgrade everything.

Well I've just named what, 3-4x as many as the PS3 has up till Q2 '07. And if Microsoft hasn't done new Techs...Explain this.

CELL = Xenon (Xenon is better because it can actually Decode MPEG4/H.264...So Xenon is winning)
BluRay = HD-DVD (HD-DVD is winning on both the 360 and instore while the PS3's BluRay is failing because of it's inabilitie to decode most video formats)
The Blade OS > The PSP Dashboard Port (I've seen both. The Blade OS completely beats the Linux PSP Port hands down, there is no denying this.)

Stop trying to post on things you obviously know nothing about. This is what pisses me off and starts Console war bullshit. Learn before you comment.

[Wu-tang]

took you a year to post this fanboy?

hate to break it to you, but the percentage of fails is around 2-3%


...My Xbox 360 is fine and so is the 20+ peoples on my Friends list.

The Percentage is actually 3% are broken and scaling the 7 million Consoles SOLD (not replaced) that's 300,000 replaced, within 1 week of sending it off. Is this the only argument people can think of against the Xbox 360? Anyone remember the PS2 :rolleyes:


Did you not read the article?
An insider at Electronic Arts told GameDaily that the Xbox 360 failure rates were around 30-50 percent and not the 3-5 percent Microsoft suggested.

I'm not going to believe it's that high, but I'm not gonna think it's that low. And why would EA say this? And what do you mean "It took you a year to post this?" I just saw it and posted it, the articles new you faggot. I'm not going to get more into the console war bullshit because it's retarded, but what I was wondering was this.
And why is EA complaining about it when Capcom made the game? Oh wait it's a EA Employee...What I'd love to know is

1. Why is it his buisness?
2. Where'd he get his figures from?

[Schizophrenic]

what the ps3 offers that the ps2 doesn't?

- more power
- wireless controllers
- new input from controllers (shaking and turning)
- built in harddrives
- built in next-gen disk drive (blue-ray)
- proper online capability
- Built in Wi-Fi function

what the game cube offers that the Wii doesn't?

- more power
- Revolutionary wireless controllers
- Online capabilites
- Free Online content from games to new levels
- built in storage
- Built in Wi-Fi Function*

What's bolded is what the original xbox had. This just shows that MS was way ahead of the curve when they released the xbox

[xeoset]

What's bolded is what the original xbox had. This just shows that MS was way ahead of the curve when they released the xbox


I didn't see that point. But why is the PS3 internal hard drive (Xbox's innovation) better than the Xbox's new External/Changeable/Upgradable innovation not even mentioned in the first place. Lawl.

[rand0m]

- Wireless headset
- Wireless Wheel
- Wirelees Live
- Live everywhere
- Blade OS
- Changeable HDD
- Customisable faceplates
- Customisable Dashboards
- Voice conversations
- Video conversations
- Customisable Video conversations
- Xenon
- HD-DVD
- Smaller system
- Neww controller design (Trust me its perfection)
- XBL marketplace
- Xbox live arcade
- recently played
- Reputation system
That's just off the top of my head.

the one thing that i would classify in there that actually fits this argument is the adjustable face plates and where it could be considered a good thing, i think most people just dont really care. I mean who the fuck stares at their console.

[xeoset]

- Wireless headset
- Wireless Wheel
- Wirelees Live
- Live everywhere
- Blade OS
- Changeable HDD
- Customisable faceplates
- Customisable Dashboards
- Voice conversations
- Video conversations
- Customisable Video conversations
- Xenon
- HD-DVD
- Smaller system
- Neww controller design (Trust me its perfection)
- XBL marketplace
- Xbox live arcade
- recently played
- Reputation system
That's just off the top of my head.

the one thing that i would classify in there that actually fits this argument is the adjustable face plates and where it could be considered a good thing, i think most people just dont really care. I mean who the fuck stares at their console.

You really are Console Retarded. All of those a brand spanking new things that makes the Xbox 360 innovative. ALL of those matter and all of those are more than what both Nintendo and Sony have done. Given both Sony and Nintendo will be using some of those things...All that innovation is down to Microsoft. Now all I need to see is the Nintendo Wii Dashboard before I make my view on who has the best OS and so far, it's Microsofts Blade OS...Really, please do some research before you post. Here's 3 big Sites to help you if need be.

www.ign.com
www.1up.com
www.gamespot.com

IGN is probably the best because they are by far most on the Fence because both 1up and GS have some biased Editors from what I've seen.

[Wip3ou7xL]

My Xbox 360 works PERFECTLY... Although it's the third one I've had since the last 2 were defective.

[Offcell]

my friend has one and he said that if you bump it it burns a ring around the cd. he showed me what it did to his NCAA 07 game, there was a burn ring around the whole thing. he said it was making like a crazy grinding sound when he bumped it too. so i think ill stick to my pc.

[MercifulMolina]

can't we have a thread where people don't try to start concole wars???Please?

[PhyuckYu]

You guys are retarded.

[L4NC3R]

X360 is not more advanced than PS3 just because of the interface.... come on!

[Swindler]

my friend has one and he said that if you bump it it burns a ring around the cd. he showed me what it did to his NCAA 07 game, there was a burn ring around the whole thing. he said it was making like a crazy grinding sound when he bumped it too. so i think ill stick to my pc.

Uhh...don't bump it then?

[killer scott]

I like my 360... 'Snice!

I agree that XBOX360 has just as many innovations as ps3 and wii are slated to have. Microsoft just has a different focus. Rather then the actual hardware, which still is new and insane, they are looking at the gamer experience and making it funner. Marketplace and live are great. I've probably downloaded 50 different things... 'Svery nice.

[kududoodoop]

X360 is not more advanced than PS3 just because of the interface.... come on!

cell was a waste of many, xenon's cache is bigger plus it can actually decode most video formats, so compressing data on the discs means they don't have to make the console use an uber expensive video format.

GPU: any developer will tell you the 360 GPU is better than PS3, 360 GPU has more shaders and pipelines, an i think it has more system memory.

and the most important part, the PS3 has a craptastic lineup of games for it, xbox 360 has some really good games already out, great exclusives, and more are coming out and it's cheaper, sony forces their blu ray on you, what if you don't want a blu ray drive, why should you have to pay 200 more for it, a game system is a game system, not a "super computer" like sony says, which is just laughable.

Xbox live is leaps and bounds the best online service ever, sony's sucks ass and nintendo won't even have on until WII comes out, which i'm looking forward to. don't complain about paying for live since it's extremely cheap at $50 A YEAR, which is about $4 a month

[el_real_madrazo]

The only reason the systems might be giving buyers problems is because of the prolonged usesage the gamers put them through. I have a friend who will play nonstop for about 6 hours on a daily basis, of course his unit is going to start giving him trouble. I only play mine for about an average of 2 hours a day, i get bored quickly, but of course its still fun.

[L4NC3R]

and the most important part, the PS3 has a craptastic lineup of games for it, xbox 360 has some really good games already out, great exclusives, and more are coming out and it's cheaper, sony forces their blu ray on you, what if you don't want a blu ray drive, why should you have to pay 200 more for it, a game system is a game system, not a "super computer" like sony says, which is just laughable.
Aside from being an extremely long sentence, that statement is also BLASPHEMY! Wu-Tang already beat that dumb arguement into the ground, favor of the PS3. So don't go there.

Xbox live is leaps and bounds the best online service ever, sony's sucks ass and nintendo won't even have on until WII comes out, which i'm looking forward to. don't complain about paying for live since it's extremely cheap at $50 A YEAR, which is about $4 a month
As I read in the press release, PS3's standard online service is free. Thus, it's automatically better, says I. And if PS3 online is anything like PS2 Network, you'll hear no compaining from me. IMO, Xbox Live wasn't better. If I understand correctly, it was only slated to be better due to the amount of online games available for it. Most of which were shitty games - but I'm a PS fanboy.

[xeoset]

and the most important part, the PS3 has a craptastic lineup of games for it, xbox 360 has some really good games already out, great exclusives, and more are coming out and it's cheaper, sony forces their blu ray on you, what if you don't want a blu ray drive, why should you have to pay 200 more for it, a game system is a game system, not a "super computer" like sony says, which is just laughable.

This is a matter of Opinion. I agree, Both the Wii and Xbox 360 have better Titles in my Opinion, people will obviously enjoy the limited exclusives the PS3 has (Wii has something like +5 more Exclusives than the PS3 while the Xbox 360 has more than 50+ more exclusives than the PS3) Source: Technophilia


As I read in the press release, PS3's standard online service is free. Thus, it's automatically better, says I. And if PS3 online is anything like PS2 Network, you'll hear no compaining from me. IMO, Xbox Live wasn't better. If I understand correctly, it was only slated to be better due to the amount of online games available for it. Most of which were shitty games - but I'm a PS fanboy.

No it doesn't make it better. Like I've said time and time again. You really think Sony is going to waste million upon millions of dollars just so you can have some that could at LEAST rival Xbox Live? Your fucking joking right?

Plus, the coming 'Live Anywhere' (Meaning you can play people on Xbox Live from a Windows Vista game and Vice Versa, so Console and Computer game mix a bit online. You can get your Gamertag on your phone and say if you meet someone while your out you can trade GT's right fucking there and then).

Nothing is going to rival Xbox Live, it's just way too ahead of everything else.

[ZeroTigerX]

- more power
- wireless controllers

- Wireless headset All I've seen is wired.
- Wireless Wheel
- Wirelees Live Wi-Fi? Something we're seeing on PS3 and Wii?
- Live everywhere ?
- Blade OS
- Changeable HDD
- Customisable faceplates Not revolutionary
- Customisable Dashboards
- Voice conversations
- Video conversations - Not revolutionary
- Customisable Video conversations
- Xenon
- HD-DVD
- Smaller system - So was the GameCube, we don't mention it.
- Neww controller design (Trust me its perfection)
- XBL marketplace Not revolutionary
- Xbox live arcade-Not new
- recently played
- Reputation system
That's just off the top of my head.

So? A lot of those stuff we can care less about. Nothing fresh up there.

What we are seeing here is fanboys that bought the system, and only sticking up for it because they own it.

[rand0m]

change of subject, why is wireless considered so amazing.

Personally id rather a decent controller thats wired in, that way there is no chance i can lose it and wont need to worry about battery life.

[L4NC3R]

I hate wireless... I really don't care for it, nor consider it an advantage. The Xbox 360 comes with wired controllers anyway, and you can damn well buy yourself wireless PS3 controllers too, if they didn't make production - which none of us know yet.

But having wireless controllers doesn't make a console anymore futuristic or amazing. Wireless has been out since the first Nintendo console. So there's another arguement you can bury...

Nothing is going to rival Xbox Live, it's just way too ahead of everything else.
You haven't stated anything considerable in proving Xbox Live's superior being. As far as I'm concerned, online gaming on a PC through a Microsoft OS or through a Microsoft online account of some sort is no different than playing against any other Xbox 360 console. I'm glad Microsoft recognized that and finally made that link.

[xeoset]

So? A lot of those stuff we can care less about. Nothing fresh up there.

What we are seeing here is fanboys that bought the system, and only sticking up for it because they own it.

Err, Fanboy? I'm getting all three. And I'm sticking up for the Xbox 360 because there are ignorant, arsehole fanboys that are to scared to admit that this generation the Xbox has the better of the PS3 and the Wii is make a huge comeback for Nintendo.

- more power
- wireless controllers

- Wireless headset Out in September
- Wireless Wheel
- Wirelees Live
- Live everywhere The ability to use your Gamertag on Portables such as a Mobile Phone and if you have an Xbox GT and Windows Vista, you can take Xbox/PC ports and play using your Gamertag across both Platforms.
- Blade OS
- Changeable HDD
- Customisable faceplates The actual Companys allowing you to customise your actual console (as in giving you the parts to do so) hasn't been done before.
- Customisable Dashboards
- Voice conversations
- Video conversations In gaming it is
- Customisable Video conversations Go watch one of the IGN weeklys (21 I think) and look at the Video effect range. I have never come across (1) That many effects (2) And those kind of effects.
- Xenon
- HD-DVD
- Smaller system Look at the difference between the original Xbox and this one, the Xbox had loads of power and needed that much ventilation. Now the PS3 and Xbox 360 kick out the same amount of power but look at how huge the PS3 is.
- Neww controller design (Trust me its perfection)
- XBL marketplace This is Revolutinary. $5 says you've never seen how much Content there actually is to purchase over over XBLM?
- Xbox live arcade I know, done on the original Xbox but it's had a massive improvement.
- recently played
- Reputation system
That's just off the top of my head.


But having wireless controllers doesn't make a console anymore futuristic or amazing. Wireless has been out since the first Nintendo console. So there's another arguement you can bury...

But that kind of Wireless hasn't been utilized as it is now. When say me and my Brothers played on the PS2/GC/Xbox we always had to spend ages untangling the Wires from moving and jumping around when we got a point or something. Now with wireless on the 360, it's a big help and glad it's being utilized.

Look at the Wii's 3D Motion Sensing, you really think that's be great with a wired controller?

[kledster]

360 has ALOT of amazing exclusive games coming out this winter. mass effect, lost planet, gears of war, and then of course halo 3 in early 2007. but damn, mass effect is what i'm waiting for the most. that game looks incredible. i can't fucking wait :)

[L4NC3R]

Good for the X360. PS3 has just as many good games coming out upon release. Something X360 coulnd't do... :D

[xeoset]

Good for the X360. PS3 has just as many good games coming out upon release. Something X360 coulnd't do... :D

Saving the good stuff for the PS3 and Wii launch. :boink:

[Wip3ou7xL]

PS3 exclusives are gonna rock even harder. The next Wipeout, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy games (not that MMO garbage), Warhawk, Motorstorm, Gran Turismo Vision, SOCOM, Coded Arms: Assault, Xenogears/saga, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance: Fall of Man, Killzone 2, TEKKEN 6, Heavenly Sword, F1-06, Golden Axe (!), GTA 4, Monster Kingdom, SEGA Rally Revolution, Virtua Fighter 5, Bladestorm, Army of Two, Genji, MS Gundam, Sonic, and more. Not to mention flawless backwards compatibility with graphic acceleration of all PS1 and PS2 games... even if there were no PS3 games coming out at all, it would still be worth it to me just to be able to play all those old games in HD w/ sick ass texture filtering and higher framerates.

(btw I own a 360 and I love it, even though the first 2 I had died on me)

[xeoset]

PS3 exclusives are gonna rock even harder. The next Wipeout, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy games (not that MMO garbage), Warhawk, Motorstorm, Gran Turismo Vision, SOCOM, Coded Arms: Assault, Xenogears/saga, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance: Fall of Man, Killzone 2, TEKKEN 6, Heavenly Sword, F1-06, Golden Axe (!), GTA 4, Monster Kingdom, SEGA Rally Revolution, Virtua Fighter 5, Bladestorm, Army of Two, Genji, MS Gundam, Sonic, and more. Not to mention flawless backwards compatibility with graphic acceleration of all PS1 and PS2 games... even if there were no PS3 games coming out at all, it would still be worth it to me just to be able to play all those old games in HD w/ sick ass texture filtering and higher framerates.

(btw I own a 360 and I love it, even though the first 2 I had died on me)

Lawl. You just named nearly all of the Exclusives for the PS3. Oh, and Sonic isn't exclusive. The only problem with those exclusives are that barely any of them are out before Christmas, where alot of top exclusives for the 360 will be (Mass effect, Bioshock, Gears of War, Lost Planet, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Test Drive, Viva Pinata to name a few).

[Not Registered]

I have a 360 and love it, and that being said I'm not gonna go "argue", if thats what you call it, of what one is better.

Just get what's best for you, for me it's the 360. The only reason I'd get a ps3 is to play socom, but I'm not sure if I'd even like it that much.

It's like arguing what car/engine/etc is better, and we all know what the car forum is like now. Please don't turn this into that.

[kledster]

Good for the X360. PS3 has just as many good games coming out upon release. Something X360 coulnd't do... :D

go look at the 360 games that are releasing around the time of PS3. something ps3 couldn't do :D

[MasterChef]

go look at the 360 games that are releasing around the time of PS3. something ps3 couldn't do :D

I never saw the Xbox360 launch November 17. :rollseyes

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[ThaiTanium22]

It's like arguing what car/engine/etc is better, and we all know what the car forum is like now. Please don't turn this into that.

It's not that bad anymore. Certain people got banned/left. This reminds me of the iPod bashing that goes on sometimes though.

[killer scott]

Lawl. You just named nearly all of the Exclusives for the PS3. Oh, and Sonic isn't exclusive. The only problem with those exclusives are that barely any of them are out before Christmas, where alot of top exclusives for the 360 will be (Mass effect, Bioshock, Gears of War, Lost Planet, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Test Drive, Viva Pinata to name a few).

also gta4 is going to be on xbox360 with exclusive content and features, so thats another to take off his list.