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dysphunktion
09-13-2006, 02:55 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/09/13/canada.shooting.ap/index.html

Pretty sad. I think this is one of the first, if not few, shootings of this nature in Canada.

OE800
09-13-2006, 02:59 PM
thats sad, hopefully this will be the last shooting like this in canada.

rand0m
09-13-2006, 03:10 PM
fuck thats bad.

dysphunktion
09-13-2006, 03:19 PM
Canada's worst mass shooting also happened in Montreal. Gunman Marc Lepin killed 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic on December 6, 1989.

That shooting spurred efforts for tighter gun laws and greater awareness of societal violence -- particularly domestic abuse. Canada's tighter gun law was achieved mainly as the results of efforts by survivors and relatives of the victims.

Another shooting in Montreal occurred in 1992, when a Concordia University professor killed four colleagues.

Oh man. :(

theC
09-13-2006, 03:20 PM
Certainly not the first of its kind. Remember the Montreal Massacre of 89 where 14 students were killed? School shootings are pretty rare in canada though.

CNN is reporting that 2 of the suspects died (one killed by police) and several students were injured, CBC is reporting that 4 people are dead..

Edit.. guess you beat me too it.

dysphunktion
09-13-2006, 03:23 PM
Certainly not the first of its kind. Remember the Montreal Massacre of 89 where 14 students were killed? School shootings are pretty rare in canada though.

CNN is reporting that 2 of the suspects died (one killed by police) and several students were injured, CBC is reporting that 4 people are dead..

Edit.. guess you beat me too it.

Usually things like this don't get a second thought from me. But Canada, in my mind, has been a place of peace. Sure, they pride themselves in their difference from us Americans but can you really blame them? Tragic none the less.

Face Plant
09-13-2006, 03:32 PM
Usually things like this don't get a second thought from me. But Canada, in my mind, has been a place of peace. Sure, they pride themselves in their difference from us Americans but can you really blame them? Tragic none the less.

We've had these kind of shootings before and they certainly won't be the last. Despite what many Americans believe getting access to guns is not too difficult in Canada. Many in my family own firearms, when the gun registry sends out warnings of fines and or jail if you fail to register we laugh and throw the form in the garbage.

NSX-R
09-13-2006, 03:34 PM
Montreal already has a recent history of university shootings and this new incident just adds to that history.

dysphunktion
09-13-2006, 03:37 PM
Once again, misinformation or lack thereof is key. Americans, for the most part, just assume that due to the gun registry that Canada is practically crime free. But that obviously isn't the case. But shootings like this are just fscking sad and pointless.

Watusa
09-13-2006, 04:01 PM
Fuck, a bunch of my friends go to Dawson.

By the way, none are dead so far. 13 wounded, 8 critical.

rand0m
09-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Tbh if a group of people constantly bullied a guy and eventually wreaked the guys life, he would certainly have a 'reason' to shoot those bullies.

however random killings is just stupid ...

Watusa
09-13-2006, 04:07 PM
Tbh if a group of people constantly bullied a guy and eventually wreaked the guys life, he would certainly have a 'reason' to shoot those bullies.

however random killings is just stupid ...

It's 4 different shooters, only one is dead so far. They are some Columbine High wannabe motherfuckers, they have the trench coats and black boots.

SaraBluebird
09-13-2006, 04:32 PM
This is just so sad to hear, I've been following it on the radio all day long. Of course my first thought was about the killing spree that happened at a Montreal college previously. To those Canadians who are talking about how others think we're crime free and blah blah blah about gun registry, stfu. Our crime rates are lower and MORE people own guns. Don't diss your freaking country

Cee
09-13-2006, 04:37 PM
Holy shit what the hell are people thinking these days?

My wishes are with the victims.

rand0m
09-13-2006, 04:42 PM
im curious if they shoot a certain number of people are the S.W.A.T teams allowed to just shoot them in the head?

Watusa
09-13-2006, 04:43 PM
im curious if they shoot a certain number of people are the S.W.A.T teams allowed to just shoot them in the head?

If they're armed, they have a right to shoot to kill.

Face Plant
09-13-2006, 04:45 PM
This is just so sad to hear, I've been following it on the radio all day long. Of course my first thought was about the killing spree that happened at a Montreal college previously. To those Canadians who are talking about how others think we're crime free and blah blah blah about gun registry, stfu. Our crime rates are lower and MORE people own guns. Don't diss your freaking country

Are you addressing me specifically? STFU? What you don't like the truth, is your national identity that insecure that you have to tell people to shut the fuck up.

Capt_Canada
09-13-2006, 04:47 PM
I hate when this stuff happens, when people have bad lives they have to take it out on others.

Watusa
09-13-2006, 05:10 PM
They are saying its actually a highschool that's called Dawson College.

:squint: I can confirm it's an actual college of 10,000 students.

Squibbles
09-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Yea, they showed it on the news and it had streets, never seen a Highschool with streets.

Cee
09-13-2006, 05:13 PM
:squint: I can confirm it's an actual college of 10,000 students.

Yeah my friend just told me that on the phone, he lives in Montreal and I'm also to late and deleted my post.

SaraBluebird
09-13-2006, 05:25 PM
Are you addressing me specifically? STFU? What you don't like the truth, is your national identity that insecure that you have to tell people to shut the fuck up.

I don’t know who it was, but it was annoying me. My national identity is very strong tyvm. It’s a shame that something like this can happen and I thought the comments about Americans not knowing that we have crime and guns was stupid

Face Plant
09-13-2006, 05:40 PM
I don’t know who it was, but it was annoying me. My national identity is very strong tyvm. It’s a shame that something like this can happen and I thought the comments about Americans not knowing that we have crime and guns was stupid

It was me and I was adressing dysphunktion's comments.

"But Canada, in my mind, has been a place of peace."

I was pointing out to him that school shootings have happened here before and the fact that it annoys you does not make it any less true.

As for you demanding Canadians not diss their country, I don't remember you speaking for all Canadians on this board. Besides stating the truth does not equal dissing your country. I also did not say that Canadian crime was on par with the US so clean the sand out of your vagina.

SaraBluebird
09-13-2006, 05:49 PM
I just looked, there is no sand in my vagina, whew cause I haven't been to the beach in a few weeks!

No need to get all pissy at me. And I didn’t say school shootings haven’t happened, just that we have a lower crime rate and MORE guns It's a sad thing that happened today

Face Plant
09-13-2006, 05:55 PM
Fine, just don't tell people to STFU next time you don't like something.

waterbottl
09-13-2006, 06:01 PM
We should tighten up the gun laws, then noone will be able to get a gun no matter how bad they want one right? ....Right?

Tier
09-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Errr... they should Blame Amerikkaa?

Roameyoe
09-13-2006, 06:18 PM
Yea, they showed it on the news and it had streets, never seen a Highschool with streets.

It's not a high school. High School finishes in grade 11 in the province of Quebec. Dawson College is what's called a CEGEP, basically a pre-university college. It would be the equivalent of grade 12 and first year university.

strikeandburn
09-13-2006, 06:23 PM
Wow, what retards, who the fuck in the right/wrong mind would fucking shoot up a college? Thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard, i can understand high school more cause you can't leave the shithole, but college? Nobodys forcing you to go.
What Pussys.

TFS
09-13-2006, 06:34 PM
I just looked, there is no sand in my vagina, whew cause I haven't been to the beach in a few weeks!

No need to get all pissy at me. And I didn’t say school shootings haven’t happened, just that we have a lower crime rate and MORE guns It's a sad thing that happened today

You need to understand: a lot of Canadians both in our media and on these boards would try and have us think that violence in Canada is so rare it's un heard of, like every town there is Fargo.

These are the same smug bastards that somehow equate tighter laws (despite the inability to enforce them) and lower crime rates to Canada automatically being vastly superior to the US. They actually think that the fact that they can't own pepper spray makes them superior to Americans.

Common sense dictates to the contrary in regards to the paragragh I mentioned fargo in, but that doesn't stop their arrogant little selves from pretending it's so.

And I'd love to see each of them get pepper-sprayed for saying things about people not being able to own guns, knives, pepper spray, and tazers somehow making them automatically better. Maybe tazered too...and then given a prison tattoo...but not shot.

Deamatix
09-13-2006, 06:40 PM
Makes you wonder how many lives could have been saved if Canada had looser gun control laws, and another student had been able to stop the shooters...

Cee
09-13-2006, 06:47 PM
You need to understand: a lot of Canadians both in our media and on these boards would try and have us think that violence in Canada is so rare it's un heard of, like every town there is Fargo.

These are the same smug bastards that somehow equate tighter laws (despite the inability to enforce them) and lower crime rates to Canada automatically being vastly superior to the US. They actually think that the fact that they can't own pepper spray makes them superior to Americans.

Common sense dictates to the contrary in regards to the paragragh I mentioned fargo in, but that doesn't stop their arrogant little selves from pretending it's so.

And I'd love to see each of them get pepper-sprayed for saying things about people not being able to own guns, knives, pepper spray, and tazers somehow making them automatically better. Maybe tazered too...and then given a prison tattoo...but not shot.

Yes we have those type of people living in Canada, lets keep this from becoming a USA vs. Canada thread.


Edit
One of the victims....a young woman has died from her wounds in a hospital.

SaraBluebird
09-13-2006, 06:49 PM
Makes you wonder how many lives could have been saved if Canada had looser gun control laws, and another student had been able to stop the shooters...

It makes me wonder how someone can be so completely fucked in the head that they shoot up a college

Sherlock
09-13-2006, 07:00 PM
Makes you wonder how many lives could have been saved if Canada had looser gun control laws, and another student had been able to stop the shooters...
Are you serious?
Your saying Canadian colleges shoud allow students to carry guns in college in case they need them. I expect that would only cause more trouble.

waterbottl
09-13-2006, 07:06 PM
Are you serious?
Your saying Canadian colleges shoud allow students to carry guns in college in case they need them. I expect that would only cause more trouble.

Right, the college not allowing that maniac to carry a gun helped loads huh?

SaraBluebird
09-13-2006, 07:14 PM
I don't really think it is a matter of gun control, its a matter of someone being fucked up and killing people

Powassan
09-13-2006, 07:14 PM
Concealed carry is an excellent idea for Canada. The justice system is not strict enough in Canada and criminals have nothing to fear. If they knew that some legitimate citizens were packing they would think twice about pulling shit like this.

TFS
09-13-2006, 07:16 PM
Yes we have those type of people living in Canada, lets keep this from becoming a USA vs. Canada thread.


Edit
One of the victims....a young woman has died from her wounds in a hospital.

I wasn't trying to turn it into that kind of thread, just explaining to that person that the reason Americans have that misconception is because of Canadians (not by any means all Canadians that just misrepresent but seem to get more coverage) that perpetuate the misconceptions by verbally affirming them.

I'd like to see those Canadians pepper-sprayed because they don't do the rest of you justice.

dysphunktion
09-13-2006, 07:22 PM
This is just so sad to hear, I've been following it on the radio all day long. Of course my first thought was about the killing spree that happened at a Montreal college previously. To those Canadians who are talking about how others think we're crime free and blah blah blah about gun registry, stfu. Our crime rates are lower and MORE people own guns. Don't diss your freaking country

I looked and looked for someone from Canada, or anywhere, that was saying anything like you implied, well, 'cept me. And I'm American and simply said that I just assumed that Canada was a very peacefull place. But you had to go off on a misinformed tangent for no reason. You win at thinking.

Capt_Canada
09-13-2006, 07:54 PM
If the airlines allowed innocent people carry guns on planes make you think how many lives could have been saved on 9/11

asshole.

Most guns here are smuggled in, if somone has the thought and will to do this they can carry it out one way or another.

MooCowzRock
09-13-2006, 08:01 PM
If the airlines allowed innocent people carry guns on planes make you think how many lives could have been saved on 9/11

asshole.

Most guns here are smuggled in, if somone has the thought and will to do this they can carry it out one way or another.

probably only a couple hundred.

Dont forget about the fact that the terrorists claimed there were bombs on the plane. Shooting them wouldnt have helped them, except for maybe flight 93 when they found out what they were planning to do.

Sketcher
09-13-2006, 08:11 PM
If the airlines allowed innocent people carry guns on planes make you think how many lives could have been saved on 9/11

That's why we've been putting more and more Air Marshals on commuter planes.

viper025
09-13-2006, 08:29 PM
wow saw it on the news....tat sucks...fukin kids now a days kill innocent ppl than take the cowards way out by killin themself.....i heard there were 2 gun men....one was killed by the cops and the other shot himself...dunno if tats true or not.....but hope no more die

Cee
09-13-2006, 08:39 PM
I wasn't trying to turn it into that kind of thread, just explaining to that person that the reason Americans have that misconception is because of Canadians (not by any means all Canadians that just misrepresent but seem to get more coverage) that perpetuate the misconceptions by verbally affirming them.

I'd like to see those Canadians pepper-sprayed because they don't do the rest of you justice.

Fair enough, I do agree with you.

MattyB
09-13-2006, 08:50 PM
Don't hear about that stuff often in Canada, very sad though.

Ado
09-13-2006, 09:01 PM
Man, I just started college this year and I live like 90 mins from Montreal. It's been on my news channel all day long and... dammit, no where is safe nowadays.

triggafinga6969
09-13-2006, 09:37 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/09/13/canada.shooting.ap/index.html

Pretty sad. I think this is one of the first, if not few, shootings of this nature in Canada.

What when did they die, I just got the news that the Gunman died, frigging loser can't get anywhere in life. i say they take his corpse and piss on it so make his death vain

Liberator13
09-13-2006, 11:46 PM
*Waits for Michael Moore to show up at the scene in his dirty t-shirt and crappy baseball cap*

Very sad, unfortunate for the one that died, hopefully the hospital can save the other 8-9+ critically wounded.

Asbestos Crayon
09-13-2006, 11:49 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/09/13/canada.shooting.ap/index.html

Pretty sad. I think this is one of the first, if not few, shootings of this nature in Canada.


Couple of months ago there was a big shooting at a mall in Canada.

Liberator13
09-13-2006, 11:52 PM
Couple of months ago there was a big shooting at a mall in Canada.

If I remember correctly, that was gang related. Immigrants from Jamaica, I think. Or what it Haiti? I don't remember, one of those countries.

TFS
09-14-2006, 12:46 AM
If I remember correctly, that was gang related. Immigrants from Jamaica, I think. Or what it Haiti? I don't remember, one of those countries.

A shooting is a shooting. Bullets flew, chambers cleared...and some jackass around the corner thought it was fireworks.

Liberator13
09-14-2006, 12:51 AM
A shooting is a shooting. Bullets flew, chambers cleared...and some jackass around the corner thought it was fireworks.

I agree, I was just trying to point out Canada has the same problems we do.

dysphunktion
09-14-2006, 01:15 AM
A shooting is a shooting. Bullets flew, chambers cleared...and some jackass around the corner thought it was fireworks.

That was actually rather eloquent.
Dig it.

kken24
09-14-2006, 01:26 AM
Only 1 shooter carrying 3 guns, a Mohawk haircut and a t-shirt with "GOTH" write on it

Killing 1 girl and wounded 19 students

He was killed by a police officer

Police intervention was very fast and effective

It's a english college

TFS
09-14-2006, 01:37 AM
That was actually rather eloquent.
Dig it.

I didn't think like that at first, but now that I reread it, and think about the conversation about the misconception of how peaceful Canada is, I'm amazed at myself.

It maybe accidental genius, but I'll take it anyway I can get it.

Watusa
09-14-2006, 03:11 AM
Pretty sad. I think this is one of the first, if not few, shootings of this nature in Canada.

To tell you the truth, this is the 5th school shooting in Montreal in the past 15 years. It's not even about being bullied over here, it's just that this city is so damn multi racial that we have sick lunatics killing people because of their race or gender. 15 years ago some guy killed 14 women at a school in montreal because he hated feminists.

SuperEraser
09-14-2006, 07:23 AM
In fairness, this is a college and not a school of children.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of drug/gang related murders in big cities and usually they happen in nightclubs or in neighbourhoods at night.

The Lepine mass murders also in a post secondary (as in adult) building but we have had a number of these events in Canada.
I have never seen anyone break down the numbers to a chart but keeping in mind Canada is one-tenth the population of the USA and I think 'School Shootings' would be closer than you might think.

Cee
09-14-2006, 08:26 AM
I just saw a report that the shooter was posting info aobut this shooting on his page on www.vampirefreaks.com but has sinced been removed. I'm trying to find people who saved that page onto their computers.

Edit
THe killer's name is Kimveer Gill.

Edit2
The site, I guess they placed it back up.
http://vampirefreaks.com/gallery.php?u=fatality666

Maelstrom
09-14-2006, 09:44 AM
Taken from cbs5.com--

"In postings on a Web site called VampireFreaks.com, blogs in Gill's name show more than 50 photos depicting the young man in various poses holding a rifle and donning a long black trench coat and combat boots.

One photo has a tombstone with his name printed on it — below it the phrase: "Lived fast died young. Left a mangled corpse."

The last of six journal entries Wednesday was posted at 10:41 a.m, about two hours before the gunmen was shot to death after the college shooting.

He said on the site that he liked to play "Super Columbine Massacre," an Internet-based computer game that simulated the April 20, 1999, shootings at the Colorado high school by two of its students that left 12 classmates and one teacher dead."

www.cbs5.com

Liberator13
09-14-2006, 12:11 PM
Wheres the pictures of him with the rifle?

SaraBluebird
09-14-2006, 12:12 PM
I looked and looked for someone from Canada, or anywhere, that was saying anything like you implied, well, 'cept me. And I'm American and simply said that I just assumed that Canada was a very peacefull place. But you had to go off on a misinformed tangent for no reason. You win at thinking.

Thanks, I like winning things.

Just reading the news this morning and 2 of the 6 in critical condition are fighting for their lives :( Seems this sick fuck called himself the angel of death.

Cee
09-14-2006, 12:17 PM
Wheres the pictures of him with the rifle?

He used a Beretta Cx4 Storm, its a carbine I believe that uses 9mm.

Liberator13
09-14-2006, 12:21 PM
Wow, good research. I know of the Cx4 Storm, never seen it though.

Chewy
09-14-2006, 12:23 PM
To tell you the truth, this is the 5th school shooting in Montreal in the past 15 years. It's not even about being bullied over here, it's just that this city is so damn multi racial that we have sick lunatics killing people because of their race or gender. 15 years ago some guy killed 14 women at a school in montreal because he hated feminists.

5th school shooting but only the second school massacre in Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Infamous_school_massacres), two guys outside a school fighting over race or gangs is not the same as a lunatic discharging a weapon into a crowd of people.

As for the last time in Canada such a massacre took place you are correct in identifying the École Polytechnique massacre(1989), (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_Massacre)also in Montreal.

SuperEraser
09-14-2006, 05:57 PM
I just saw a report that the shooter was posting info aobut this shooting on his page on www.vampirefreaks.com but has sinced been removed. I'm trying to find people who saved that page onto their computers.

Edit
THe killer's name is Kimveer Gill.

Edit2
The site, I guess they placed it back up.
http://vampirefreaks.com/gallery.php?u=fatality666


The plot thickens.
A few months ago small town in Alberta had some shocking triple murders:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_family_murders

"He also had a user account at the VampireFreaks.com web site. Jasmine also had a page at the same site, leading to speculation they met there. However, later, an acquaintance of Steinke said the couple actually met at a punk dance in early 2006."

I have no doubt the police will see if there was some connection between them at this vampirefreaks website.

NSX-R
09-14-2006, 10:26 PM
You figure that only a dellusional white guy would fire at random people for fun but for this occassion, no! Kimveer Gill is a Sikh Indian who was brainwashed into Goth culture and decided one day to kill as many people as possible.

Just to clear things up, Dawson college is a pre-university school. The students are essentially high-school students as the education system in Quebec is different. There have been quite a few large scale school shootings in Montreal the past few years. In 1989, a lunatic shot and killed 14 women in an engineering school because he believed women should not attend university.

SuperEraser
09-14-2006, 11:09 PM
I just point out the ages because I would make a distinction between children killing other children and adults killing adults.
At least the justice system does that.

When its 12-14 year old actual children killing other children.. man that just takes it to another entirely new level of disturbing.
Like this isnt already bad enough.
These arent children but in his case its something where he seems to still have the mentality of a twelve year old.

J.T.
09-15-2006, 02:12 AM
Does this mean that Mike Fatass moore is going to go up to Canada and soil your land like he has ours, and make some hair-brain self-fulfilling piece of crap documentry on how guns and Canadian rednecks don't mix?


Seriously, I don't want to hear another Canadian say ONE more thing about America in these regards!

Chewy
09-15-2006, 02:35 AM
Seriously, I don't want to hear another Canadian say ONE more thing about America in these regards! You don’t see a discrepancy in these events and what nation seems to have more of these events then others?
Bath School disaster - Bath, Michigan, United States; May 18, 1927 (45 dead, 58 injured)
Poe Elementary School Attack - Houston, Texas, United States, September 15, 1959 (6 dead)
Cologne School Massacre - Cologne, Germany, June 11, 1964 (11 dead)
University of Texas at Austin Tower Massacre;United States, August 1, 1966 (15 dead, 31 injured)
Ma'alot massacre, Israel by DFLP gunmen (see [2]); 1974 (26 dead, 60 injured)
California State University, Fullerton Library Massacre;United States, July 12, 1976 (7 dead)
École Polytechnique Massacre - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; 1989 (14 dead, 13 injured)
Stockton Massacre - Stockton, California, United States, 1989 (6 dead, 30 injured)
University of Iowa shooting - Iowa City, Iowa, United States; 1991 (5 dead, 1 injured)
Dunblane massacre - Dunblane, Scotland, United Kingdom; 1996 (18 dead)
Heath High School shooting - McCracken County (near Paducah), Kentucky, United States; December 1, 1997 (3 dead, 5 injured)
Sanaa massacre - Sanaa, Yemen; 1997 (8 dead)
Jonesboro massacre - Craighead County (near Jonesboro), Arkansas, United States; March, 1998 (5 dead, 10 injured)
Columbine High School massacre - Jefferson County (near Denver and Littleton), Colorado, United States; April 20, 1999 (15 dead, 24 injured)
Osaka school massacre - Ikeda, Osaka prefecture, Japan; 2001 (8 dead, 15 injured)
Appalachian School of Law shooting - Grundy, Virginia, United States; January 16, 2002 (3 dead)
Erfurt massacre - Erfurt, Germany; 2002 (17 dead)
Red Lion Area Junior High School Murder/Suicide - Red Lion, PennsylvaniaUnited States, ; 2003 (2 dead)
Beslan school hostage crisis - Beslan, Russia; 2004 (359 dead, over 700 injured)
Red Lake High School massacre - Red Lake, Minnesota, United States; 2005 (10 dead, 15 injured)
Dawson College shooting - Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13, 2006 (2 dead, 19 injured) :rolleyes:

TFS
09-15-2006, 02:47 AM
Hey Chewy, not trying to argue or anything, because facts is facts, but just curious...does your source have information on all cases of kids killing kids, guns or not? If not, do you have a source on that readily available?

I'm just curious as to how the ratio changes when it's not limited to using guns as the means for killing, considering how much tighter your gun control laws are than ours.

SuperEraser
09-15-2006, 02:47 AM
Taber Alberta shooting not mentioned in there.
Again, quite a large population difference and Im not enough of a math keener to figure out the numbers there.

Whats worth mentioning here - why 'shooting' gets counted as some sort of 'premiere' murder category.
Canada is supposed to be happy that Jeremy Steinke (another vampirefreaks.com kid) killed a couple and their eight year old son using KNIVES.
No shootings in Medicine Hat we are proud to say... oh, but getting totally butchered to death with a knife?

bergshadow
09-15-2006, 02:58 AM
Population of Canada about 10% US, so massacre ratio of 2/12 (from Chewy's list) overrepresents Canada.

Very small sample size.

TFS
09-15-2006, 03:03 AM
Population of Canada about 10% US, so massacre ratio of 2/12 (from Chewy's list) overrepresents Canada.

Very small sample size.

Still, given what we have to work with, that's still 1/6th of the violence with just 1/10 the population.

But like I said, I'd rather see how things stack up when all violent crimes are totalled, see how that ratio stacks up with that percentage of population, and we'll get a much more accurate picture.

SuperEraser
09-15-2006, 03:50 AM
I cant find the CanStats page right now but as reported a few months ago, Canada's murder rate went up the last little while.
Murder by firearms went DOWN
Murder by blunt instruments went UP.

So thanks to all the righteous gun control advocates who ingeniously figured out 'guns are bad'.
Now you are less likely to get killed quickly with a gun but more likely to get stomped to death or beaten with a hockey stick until you die.

Way to go Canada!

Watusa
09-15-2006, 06:32 AM
Sigh, a thread about innocent people being shot at in Canada had to go and be turned into an America vs. Canada war. Way to go Americans, very sympathetic. I'll be sure to post why Canada is better than America the next time you have innocent civilians killed. Which would be about right... now.

SuperEraser
09-15-2006, 06:36 AM
The guys profile on vampirefreaks is so predictable its all the more reason to see why he had a severe identity crisis.
Movies: Natural Born Killers
Slogans: Fuck the World
Hates Principals and School

I mean, its funny how people try and be 'unique' and end up becoming a carbon copy conformist.
See: South Park.

Deamatix
09-15-2006, 06:38 AM
Sigh, a thread about innocent people being shot at in Canada had to go and be turned into an America vs. Canada war. Way to go Americans, very sympathetic. I'll be sure to post why Canada is better than America the next time you have innocent civilians killed. Which would be about right... now.

Hey, if you don't like America then you can just get out, we don't need you here.

Watusa
09-15-2006, 06:39 AM
Hey, if you don't like America then you can just get out, we don't need you here.

LOL LMAO!!!!!



















Your country is run by Canada's resources, that makes you a part of us, not the other way around. n00b.