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Cocaine
09-14-2006, 04:13 PM
So, what do you guys think??
DontBottaMe13
09-14-2006, 04:36 PM
i cant imagine after all the controvery surrounding the big sluggers he would even consider taking them...hes not even that big as much as hes a great hitter..if he breaks 61 hes the home run king in my eyes
atreyu_2020
09-14-2006, 05:13 PM
Fuck no, look at the guy, he's a chubster, no way he's taking riods.
Tanooki
09-14-2006, 07:29 PM
So a baseball player hits over 50+ HRs and you think he takes steroids?

:banghead:
D4MVP
09-14-2006, 08:52 PM
Steroids = No

MVP = Jes
Jimothy51
09-14-2006, 09:14 PM
MVP = Jes
Miguel Cabrera eats Ryan Howard for an after breakfast snack.
chengy
09-14-2006, 11:57 PM
Ryan Howard, he's a free swinger so no he's not on roids. Besides roids guys generally suck in HR derby, he showed he is simply a power guy.
Nerdcraft
09-15-2006, 04:49 PM
Ryan Howard, he's a free swinger so no he's not on roids. Besides roids guys generally suck in HR derby, he showed he is simply a power guy.
That's the dumbest thing ever, so because he won the HR derby he's not on roids? Howard isn't dumb enough to take steroids.
Travmire
09-15-2006, 04:52 PM
He's like Dunn, a big guy who swings for the fence. No, I don't think he's on 'roids.
atreyu_2020
09-15-2006, 05:31 PM
Just look at the guy, he's chubby, no way he's on steroids.
2000 civic si
09-15-2006, 06:27 PM
I was woundering when a thread was going to get started about Ryan Howard and steriods. The guy is out of shape and it's waaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooo eary to tell anything unless you catch him in the act. But seriously lets not slander his name and judge him based on Conseco, Mcguire, Bonds fuck ups. This guy howard is the real deal and will blow bonds home run record away within the next two years if he keeps hitting like he does. I say good luck and have fun doing to Ryan Howard.
PhyuckYu
09-16-2006, 02:58 PM
Jesus did steroids, but he was more of a line drive hitter.
piggyman18
09-16-2006, 03:14 PM
I am thoroughly surprised at the number of people that said no. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind he is juicing. The only person who is making it more obvious than him is Frank Thomas.
AsHopeDies
09-17-2006, 03:52 AM
I was woundering when a thread was going to get started about Ryan Howard and steriods. The guy is out of shape and it's waaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooo eary to tell anything unless you catch him in the act. But seriously lets not slander his name and judge him based on Conseco, Mcguire, Bonds fuck ups. This guy howard is the real deal and will blow bonds home run record away within the next two years if he keeps hitting like he does. I say good luck and have fun doing to Ryan Howard.

Wow...there is so much wrong with this. First of all...out of shape? Are you stuck on stupid? He's a professional athlete...a very good one at that...he's in shape dumbass. And you say let's not slander him because of McGuire and Bonds? Neither of them have ever been proven to have done steroids. So what you are saying is let's not slander him like we have slandered McGuire and Bonds. You're a moron.
cmacdon
09-17-2006, 01:19 PM
Jesus did steroids, but he was more of a line drive hitter.

He's got a point.

And being from Philly, I don't think he does. Not biased, I don't even really like the Phils, but Howard would be a total let down to the city if he was found using em. I think the kid just has a great swing.
2000 civic si
09-17-2006, 01:29 PM
Wow...there is so much wrong with this. First of all...out of shape? Are you stuck on stupid? He's a professional athlete...a very good one at that...he's in shape dumbass. And you say let's not slander him because of McGuire and Bonds? Neither of them have ever been proven to have done steroids. So what you are saying is let's not slander him like we have slandered McGuire and Bonds. Im a moron.

The reason Bonds hasnt been proven yet is becuase his trainer won't testify facts on bonds steriod use, then Mark Mcguire doesnt want to talk about the past, lol how does that make you look, Guilty i say, sure they havent be proven but we all know they did. Then also you say Howard is a pro athlete so that makes him in shape, Get the fuck out of here, So your telling me that that David Ortiz is in Shape, He needs to lose 30 pounds to be in shape. I guess in the NFL only WR, RB and QB's are the only Pro athletes since their in shape and the Offensive and some defensive linemen arent becuase they for sure aren't in shape. I am not saying Howard is fat, He's just not in shape.
ftbllplr
09-17-2006, 09:45 PM
I don't think hes on steroids. He, physically, doesn't look like the people who obivously took steroids. (Bonds, McGuire, Conseco, Sosa. Whoever disagrees is kidding themselves.) If he passes Rodger Maris he should be the home run king.
AsHopeDies
09-17-2006, 10:37 PM
The reason Bonds hasnt been proven yet is becuase his trainer won't testify facts on bonds steriod use, then Mark Mcguire doesnt want to talk about the past, lol how does that make you look, Guilty i say, sure they havent be proven but we all know they did. Then also you say Howard is a pro athlete so that makes him in shape, Get the fuck out of here, So your telling me that that David Ortiz is in Shape, He needs to lose 30 pounds to be in shape. I guess in the NFL only WR, RB and QB's are the only Pro athletes since their in shape and the Offensive and some defensive linemen arent becuase they for sure aren't in shape. I am not saying Howard is fat, He's just not in shape.

Haha, yes, Ortiz and all NFL linemen are in shape. Those fuckers work hard, they need that weight to play their positions, but when they are in season...they are in shape.
Travmire
09-17-2006, 10:51 PM
Is Jason Giambi changing anyone's opinion about steroids? I can't imagine him being on them now, and he's as good as ever.
piggyman18
09-17-2006, 10:54 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many of you that say he is clean have read Jose Canseco's book?
Jk1725
09-17-2006, 10:54 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many of you that say he is clean have read Jose Canseco's book?

Exactly
The argument he is chubby so he isnt using is ridiculous
Alot of times steroids make the user "fat" because they dont use them right
Travmire
09-17-2006, 11:07 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many of you that say he is clean have read Jose Canseco's book?

I haven't (is it any good?). Right now, he's innocent until proven guilty. Have some of the others been proven guilty? No, but there's enough suspcision to change opinions. Right now, there's nothing on Howard.

And besides, if Pujols hadn't been hurt, he'd probably have as many, if not more home runs. Is he on steroids? Just look at Howard. He's a really big guy, but is he inhuman? I wouldn't say so.

I don't want to live in a world where anyone who hits fifty homers is considered on drugs. That kills the sport of the game; ignorance is bliss.