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Warmonger
10-07-2006, 09:32 AM
Found this on Google-video - itīs definetly worth a watch:
9/11 Mysteries:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003
Deamatix
10-07-2006, 09:44 AM
Go to the 9/11 conspiracy section (http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=4b232875764b4a3e8ae7773b7dd14315) for this.
Sandalhar
10-07-2006, 04:26 PM
FUCK OFF
All this conspiracy bullshit of always "questioning" but never answering is a serious turn-off.
YouEnjoyMyself
10-07-2006, 04:34 PM
I think the only mystery is how our intelligence could let this happen.
Ace Hippie
10-07-2006, 04:39 PM
I think the only mystery is how our intelligence could let this happen.
Inefficient bureaucracy + major blunders + misplaced priorities + lack of adequate counter terrorism training + Clinton getting a blowjob = 9/11
deballedtomcat
10-07-2006, 04:44 PM
from Ace HippieInefficient bureaucracy + major blunders + misplaced priorities + lack of adequate counter terrorism training + Clinton getting a blowjob = 9/11
only part of it,it really should read:Inefficient bureaucracy + major blunders + misplaced priorities + lack of adequate counter terrorism training + Clinton getting a blowjob + Republicans and Democrats fighting over said blowjob and forgetting that they had a nation to run = 9/11
Just Spurplin
10-07-2006, 04:45 PM
Inefficient bureaucracy + major blunders + misplaced priorities + lack of adequate counter terrorism training + Clinton getting a blowjob = 9/11
Yeah, that bj was just the final nail in the coffin. You can just see Bin Laden on the phone. "What? Clinton? A blow job? *shakes head* It's time...."
Ace Hippie
10-07-2006, 04:49 PM
Yeah, that bj was just the final nail in the coffin. You can just see Bin Laden on the phone. "What? Clinton? A blow job? *shakes head* It's time...."
What many people don't realize is that the Koran specifically describes an infidel receiving a blowjob to be a legitimate cause for jihad. Pretty conclusive proof that Clinton is at fault for 9/11
YouEnjoyMyself
10-07-2006, 05:07 PM
Thanks for clearing that up guys.
DAMN YOU CLINTON!!!! *shakes fist*
MooCowzRock
10-07-2006, 06:10 PM
only part of it,it really should read:Inefficient bureaucracy + major blunders + misplaced priorities + lack of adequate counter terrorism training + Clinton getting a blowjob + Republicans and Democrats fighting over said blowjob and forgetting that they had a nation to run = 9/11
definitely....got too into he politics and not on the actual issues. Sadly, as much as we criticize politicians for doing it, we are just as guilty...
weister42
10-07-2006, 06:36 PM
Conspiracy is awesome because it boggle minds. I know our government hides shit from us and try to manipulate false thinking, I'm not affected by it because I believe in myself and my own opinions.
Just Spurplin
10-07-2006, 06:45 PM
DAMN YOU CLINTON!!!! *shakes fist*
But he is just so darn likeable. He could shoot your mom in the face. If you met him at a party, you'd still want him to think you're cool.
MooCowzRock
10-07-2006, 06:48 PM
But he is just so darn likeable. He could shoot your mom in the face. If you met him at a party, you'd still want him to think you're cool.
:lmao: ..lol.......
There are no 9/11 mysteries.
Aside from "how the fuck do these douchebags with no credible backgrounds in physics, aeronautical engineering, civil engineering, structural engineering, seismology, geomatic engineering, chemical engineering...hell engineering period, get the idea that they somehow make sense despite every credible professional physicist and engineer on earth disagreeing with them?"
ForksWa
10-08-2006, 06:56 AM
Yeah our government set up 9/11
our government has done this before to
Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored acts (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.
in other words the government did bad things and said another country did it.
Worldogore
10-08-2006, 08:59 AM
if thats true forkswa then i honestly havent a clue how anyone, on planet earth could defend or justify their actions
GotheriK
10-08-2006, 10:22 AM
Yeah our government set up 9/11
our government has done this before to
Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored acts (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.
in other words the government thought about doing bad things and saying another country did it. However, the operation was shot down by other members of the government.
Reading is your friend!
:lmao: You fail.
MooCowzRock
10-08-2006, 01:25 PM
Yeah our government set up 9/11
our government has done this before to
Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored acts (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.
in other words the government did bad things and said another country did it.
.....you do realize that we never did that, dont you? It was proposed by some nut, but never even considered.
Pat McCrotch
10-08-2006, 03:08 PM
FUCK OFF
All this conspiracy bullshit of always "questioning" but never answering is a serious turn-off.
YES FUCK OFF
Your insulting all the families and every fucking person who helped and died
YES FUCK OFF
Your insulting all the families and every fucking person who helped and died
No he isn't.
He's insulting the conspiracy nuts.
The conspiracy nuts are the only ones who are insulting those that helped, and//or died, and their families.
And I am speaking as a family member of someone who died that day.
Pat McCrotch
10-10-2006, 01:14 AM
Im agreeing with Sandalhar im not telling him to fuck off, im saying towards topic starter
Newground Spy
10-15-2006, 05:00 PM
will you conspiracy nutjobs get a hold of yourselves? iF OUR GOVERMENT PLANNED THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE LEAKED.
MattyB
10-16-2006, 12:04 AM
.....you do realize that we never did that, dont you? It was proposed by some nut, but never even considered.
It was approved by every member of the joint chiefs of staff and top pentagon officials.
MooCowzRock
10-16-2006, 12:12 AM
It was approved by every member of the joint chiefs of staff and top pentagon officials.
some proof would be nice. Something credible, please.
It was approved by every member of the joint chiefs of staff and top pentagon officials.
But was subsequently shot down. Period. That one simple fact that it was completely scrapped renders you trying to use it as proof the government is out to kill us as retarded and silly.
Pajman
10-16-2006, 12:58 AM
YES FUCK OFF
Your insulting all the families and every fucking person who helped and died
Although I don't buy the conspiracy theories, I never understood the argument that they are somehow "insulting the victims" either.
MooCowzRock
10-16-2006, 01:02 AM
Although I don't buy the conspiracy theories, I never understood the argument that they are somehow "insulting the victims" either.
definitely...its just one extreme trying to attack another...just ignore it...
Warmonger
10-16-2006, 05:32 PM
I see - you guys would rather stay in denial of the obvious fact that no steelframed building has never collapsed due to fire. The fires, or the airplanes for that matter, didnīt bring down wtc 1, 2 and 7 - explosives did.
The "conspiracy nuts" arenīt telling these facts to insult you or any of the victims - on the contrary. I know itīs hard to accept that the government did this to their people, iīve had a very hard time facing this myself, but denying isnīt going to change what happened that day.
Liberator13
10-16-2006, 06:08 PM
"Yes, Cartman, 1/4th of the American population are retards."
MooCowzRock
10-16-2006, 06:18 PM
I see - you guys would rather stay in denial of the obvious fact that no steelframed building has never collapsed due to fire. The fires, or the airplanes for that matter, didnīt bring down wtc 1, 2 and 7 - explosives did.
The "conspiracy nuts" arenīt telling these facts to insult you or any of the victims - on the contrary. I know itīs hard to accept that the government did this to their people, iīve had a very hard time facing this myself, but denying isnīt going to change what happened that day.
You know...except for the fact that the government didnt do it.:rollseyes
You want the proof? Refer to the 500+ 9/11 debate thread in the video section, where the side of the official story is greatly dominating.
Sketcher
10-16-2006, 06:26 PM
I see - you guys would rather stay in denial of the obvious fact that no steelframed building has never collapsed due to fire. The fires, or the airplanes for that matter, didnīt bring down wtc 1, 2 and 7 - explosives did.
It wasn't just the fire that brought down the buildings. It was also the fact that A FUCKING AIRPLAINE destoryed most of the framing on those floors. I can't fucking believe that your "proof" for this bullshit is that it never happened before.
And how the hell were explosives supposed to be planted in there? Those towers were fully staffed 24/7. It's not like it was some pizza shop that closed down for the night and on holidays. Seriously, start thinking logically for a second.
I hear alot of conspiracy nuts saying that people heard explosions which to them is proof that there actually were explosions. Guess what, when that Yankee player's plane flew into that building last week, witnesses described it as sounding like an explosion. If a private plane sounds like an explosion, of course a passenger jet is going to sound like one.
I see - you guys would rather stay in denial of the obvious fact that no steelframed building has never collapsed due to fire. The fires, or the airplanes for that matter, didnīt bring down wtc 1, 2 and 7 - explosives did.
The "conspiracy nuts" arenīt telling these facts to insult you or any of the victims - on the contrary. I know itīs hard to accept that the government did this to their people, iīve had a very hard time facing this myself, but denying isnīt going to change what happened that day.
You're the only one in denial, and it's because you feel the subconcious need to think of yourself as special and smarter for seeing something no one else sees...despite what you see being completely ass-fucking retarded.
The only ones who ever suggest that the WTC collapsed due to fire are the conspiracy nuts when they try to use that no building has ever collapsed like that to prove themselves right. It's misleading everytime a conspiracy nut brings that up because no one ever even suggested it.
The heat from the fire caused by the planes was hot enough to warp and weaken the steel structure, compromising its ability to support the weight of the floors above it to the extent it was intended to when it was built. The fire didn't eat through the steel, nor did it melt it: it just warped and weakened it.
Then, with gthe steel structure weakened, the weight of half of the South tower above the collision point was too much for it to hold, and it collapsed, causing massive seismic activity. The seismic activity was large enough and close enough to the north tower that it combined with the weight of the floors above the collision point in that building and the weakened state of the steel frame at that same point, that it was enough to cause the North tower to then collapse as well, generating even more seismic activity. The seismic activity of both towers combined was large enough, long enough, and close enough to building 7 to cause it to collapse as well.
You're right that it's not any good to deny the truth...especially when the obvious truth is usually the only truth to anything. Theories aren't truths, just ideas, and 9/11 theories are all completely unfounded and uncredible. No one who ever comes up with them has ever been a credible, educated voice in the fields they are trying to weigh in on in regards to 9/11.
And you made a grammatical error: conspiracy nuts should never be in quotes as that is simply what they honestly are. However, when using the word "truth" in reference to conspiracy theories being the truth, it should always be in quotations because it is not what the truth really is.
YouEnjoyMyself
10-16-2006, 06:59 PM
Can we move on? Conspiracy or not, whoever did this will never be brought to justice.
How about we work on getting our country out of this shit hole we are in and work towards the future instead of bickering about something that will never be proven?
Liberator13
10-16-2006, 07:06 PM
Can we move on? Conspiracy or not, whoever did this will never be brought to justice.
How about we work on getting our country out of this shit hole we are in and work towards the future instead of bickering about something that will never be proven?
Thank you.
Also, very well put, TFS. It sucks that you must keep repeating everything, but you do well. :p
Thank you.
Also, very well put, TFS. It sucks that you must keep repeating everything, but you do well. :p
I was a macaw in a former life.
At least that's what I'd believe if I was a Buddhist.
liverpool
10-16-2006, 09:57 PM
But was subsequently shot down. Period. That one simple fact that it was completely scrapped renders you trying to use it as proof the government is out to kill us as retarded and silly.
More accurately, JFK, the man who scrapped the plan, was shot down...
MooCowzRock
10-16-2006, 10:32 PM
More accurately, JFK, the man who scrapped the plan, was shot down...
Dude, go away. Coming up with irrational and baseless past conclusions does NOTHING to prove a 9/11 conspiracy, so get off it.
More accurately, JFK, the man who scrapped the plan, was shot down...
The only believable conspiracy about JFK's assassination is that the mob somehow orchestrated it.
Bergs
10-17-2006, 04:54 AM
Did anybody else see last week's South Park? It proved once again that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are geniuses who offer some of the best social commentary available today.
"It was only the most perfectly implemented plan ever."
Shameonyou
10-17-2006, 06:08 AM
I see - you guys would rather stay in denial of the obvious fact that no steelframed building has never collapsed due to fire. The fires, or the airplanes for that matter, didn´t bring down wtc 1, 2 and 7 - explosives did.
The "conspiracy nuts" aren´t telling these facts to insult you or any of the victims - on the contrary. I know it´s hard to accept that the government did this to their people, i´ve had a very hard time facing this myself, but denying isn´t going to change what happened that day.
You are so fucking blind its almost sad. It wasnt just the FIRE that compromised the Twin Towers structural integrity, it was the impact of a 200 thousand pound plane hitting the WTC at almost 600 miles an hour. I mean im no engineer but as i was watching the attacks live on television i knew it was the velocity of the planes that contributed the most to destroying them. Honestly, who are you going to listen to, people who have no background in engineering whatsoever but obviously have alot of time to make movies on their Macs or professionals who consistantly agree that the WTC was brought down by Impact+Fire not some fucking phantom demolitionists?
Speaking of demolition, when did anybody have the time to plant that much dynamite in TWO of the largest buildings in the world when those two buildings were NEVER completely empty? THINK, MOTHERFUCKER, THINK!!
Shameonyou
10-17-2006, 06:12 AM
Did anybody else see last week's South Park? It proved once again that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are geniuses who offer some of the best social commentary available today.
"It was only the most perfectly implemented plan ever."
haha bergs, so true. while conspiracy nuts go on rants and brew up elaborate stories on how 9/11 'really happened'. Trey/Stone will always be there to fuck their faces up.
MattyB
10-17-2006, 06:45 PM
Dude, go away. Coming up with irrational and baseless past conclusions does NOTHING to prove a 9/11 conspiracy, so get off it.
Its not trying to prove the conspiracy theroy itself but show the mindset of those people within the government. Remember, he was also trying to abolish the federal reserve system, and the CIA. Then wanted to pull out of the war. Coming from a man who warned about secret societies and the people who are really in control of the presidency. And then we all know how that ended.
MooCowzRock
10-17-2006, 07:24 PM
Its not trying to prove the conspiracy theroy itself but show the mindset of those people within the government. Remember, he was also trying to abolish the federal reserve system, and the CIA. Then wanted to pull out of the war. Coming from a man who warned about secret societies and the people who are really in control of the presidency. And then we all know how that ended.
soooo....explain to m why Alex Jones and Dylan Avery are still alive today??
If the government could kill the FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, how can they not kill a teenager and some nut with a couple of websites??
And either way, the argument that the government was behind it is STILL baseless. There is NO solid evidence for it, and the argument is SO weak it isnt taken seriously by anyone with a high education.
kledster
10-17-2006, 09:40 PM
soooo....explain to m why Alex Jones and Dylan Avery are still alive today??
If the government could kill the FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, how can they not kill a teenager and some nut with a couple of websites??
IMO no one is going to kill alex jones. but just for the sake of discussion...
if a high profile man has a conspiracy to expose a high profile asassin clan, and suddenly he is ambigiously killed, everyone will automatically know who did it. he would have tragically and ironically won, while the assasins would have defeated their own purpose.
in other words, even IF the government wanted to kill jones or anything other high profile conspirist, they wouldn't. now, if the conspirists were low profile nobodys that don't have their own radio show, then perhaps that's a different story.
MooCowzRock
10-17-2006, 09:53 PM
IMO no one is going to kill alex jones. but just for the sake of discussion...
if a high profile man has a conspiracy to expose a high profile asassin clan, and suddenly he is ambigiously killed, everyone will automatically know who did it. he would have tragically and ironically won, while the assasins would have defeated their own purpose.
in other words, even IF the government wanted to kill jones or anything other high profile conspirist, they wouldn't. now, if the conspirists were low profile nobodys that don't have their own radio show, then perhaps that's a different story.
so then why would they kill JFK?
kledster
10-18-2006, 02:54 AM
so then why would they kill JFK?
because whoever did it was not a high profile personality who had let the world know his contempt for for JFK. if olswald had his own radio show commited to exposing JFK (a la alex jones), then yeah... they would have pointed fingers at him, no questions asked. hell, they might have been expecting it from him. 'high profile' is the key.
IMO no one is going to kill alex jones. but just for the sake of discussion...
if a high profile man has a conspiracy to expose a high profile asassin clan, and suddenly he is ambigiously killed, everyone will automatically know who did it. he would have tragically and ironically won, while the assasins would have defeated their own purpose.
in other words, even IF the government wanted to kill jones or anything other high profile conspirist, they wouldn't. now, if the conspirists were low profile nobodys that don't have their own radio show, then perhaps that's a different story.
But we're talking about the same assassins who pulled off "only the most perfectly implemented plan ever." Surely they could make it look like a heart attack and buy off whatever morticians and coroners are involved like they did the hundreds of thousands of soldiers, CIA operatives, firefighters and cops that committed suiced, the airline passengers that haven't been seen since, all the world's professional engineersm phycists, and anyone having to do with aviation in any relevant way, and all the people who are teachers of the next generations in all of these same fields and never once did any of them open it up just out of greed for their own 15 minutes of fame when we live in a society where a guy becomes an over-night late-night MTV sensation for sucking on a cow's udder in a NY grocery store.
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