Obvious repost Xbox 360 vs PS3...

[ocpunk37]

...i know i know...this is a repost but im having REAL diffuctly deciding which console to purchase!

Wii is out of the picture for me...i have NO interest in it

Xbox 360:
cheaper price
has great titles like; Gears of War, HALO 3, Call of Duty 2, etc...

PS3:
ok...sony is only releasing 13 titles and 9 or so are also on the Xbox 360
ps3 also has some great titles; Metal Gear 4, Resistance.., but what else does it have to offer?

my mind is boggling on which console i should purchase!!! gimmie some feedback fellas!

[Pillow]

...i know i know...this is a repost but im having REAL diffuctly deciding which console to purchase!

Wii is out of the picture for me...i have NO interest in it

Xbox 360:
cheaper price
has great titles like; Gears of War, HALO 3, Call of Duty 2, etc...

PS3:
ok...sony is only releasing 13 titles and 9 or so are also on the Xbox 360
ps3 also has some great titles; Metal Gear 4, Resistance.., but what else does it have to offer?

my mind is boggling on which console i should purchase!!! gimmie some feedback fellas!



Get a 360.


You can't go wrong with Gears of War.

[kledster]

360. alot of great games coming are out for it.. mass effect, bioshock, halo wars, halo 3, fable II, alan wake, assasins creed are just a few of em.

PS3 will eventually have some good games but the ones that are lined to come out so far are definately not worth 600+ bucks.

[MooCowzRock]

If you just want to get some good games right now for a little cheaper and less features, get a 360. If you dont mind waiting a month or two for even better games for the PS3 and more features, get a PS3.

Cant go wrong with the sixaxis controller with Warhawk...Also, Killzone will probably be just like Gears of War, considering the strong focus on cover was originally theirs. Go watch some videos on Warhawk...that will help you make up your mind...

[MusicIsDead]

Whats happening in a month or two that will make the ps3 superior to the 360?:confused:

[xeoset]

Whats happening in a month or two that will make the ps3 superior to the 360?:confused:

Nothing, MooCow just prefers the PS3 to the 360 for some reason. I think he's just waiting on the 'ol ugly MGS4 :rollseyes

Get the 360, the 65nm Chips are getting put in the December Batches aswell as the batches onwards, a few of the games have been listed but there are so many good ones that are out like Viva Pinata, Splinter Cell, Chromehounds, Dead Rising and DOA4 to name a few.

Get a Wii later on when they have better Games out (SSBB + Mario Galaxy FTW!)

[ocpunk37]

Whats happening in a month or two that will make the ps3 superior to the 360?:confused:

the release of the "GOOD" games haha...

i know PS3 has iexplorer...and Xbox dosnt...but do i really need that since i have a PC? :banghead:

are there really any differences in graphics? if i play an Xbox on a "regular" TV are the graphics still gona look good? same with PS3?

[xeoset]

i know PS3 has iexplorer...and Xbox dosnt...but do i really need that since i have a PC? :banghead:

are there really any differences in graphics? if i play an Xbox on a "regular" TV are the graphics still gona look good? same with PS3?

The PS3 doesn't have IE...IE belongs to Microdoft, why hand it to a rival?

And again:

Triangle Setup
Xbox 360 - 500 Million Triangles/sec
PS3 - 250 Million Triangles/sec

Vertex Shader Processing
Xbox 360 - 6.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 2.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 16 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.5 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 12 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 8 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec

Filtered Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 12.0 Billion Texels/sec

Vertex Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Texels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing with 16 Filtered Texels Per Cycle (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing without Textures (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Multisampled Fill Rate
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz)
PS3 - 8.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz)

Pixel Fill Rate with 4x Multisampled Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
PS3 - 2.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz / 4)

Pixel Fill Rate without Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)

Frame Buffer Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 256.0 GB/sec (dedicated for frame buffer rendering)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with other graphics data: textures and vertices)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)

Texture/Vertex Memory Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 22.4 GB/sec (shared with CPU)
Xbox 360 - 14.4 GB/sec (with 8.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
Xbox 360 - 12.4 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with frame buffer)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)

Shader Model
Xbox 360 - Shader Model 3.0+ / Unified Shader Architecture
PS3 - Shader Model 3.0 / Discrete Shader Architecture

[ocpunk37]

i saw the review on G4 TV...i believe he said that Xbox didnt have ie...maybe sony just added some TYPE of browser...but seriously...what for? just use a PC...

the next console they are gona release is gona have a damn keyboard i bet haha...might as well just buy a PC and buy the games for it

[xeoset]

i saw the review on G4 TV...i believe he said that Xbox didnt have ie...maybe sony just added some TYPE of browser...but seriously...what for? just use a PC...

the next console they are gona release is gona have a damn keyboard i bet haha...might as well just buy a PC and buy the games for it

The PS3 will eventually release a Keyboard and Mouse.

Most 360 Games that are on the PC (When Vista comes) will let you play with either a K + B or a 360 Wired/Wireless Pad, and let you play other people over Xbox LIVE! (As in PC vs. 360ers)

[ocpunk37]

hmm thats cool...

ok...what about...the 20G hard-drive VS 40G...do you really need to put up more cash for the extra 20? plus..i dont plan on getting Xbox live anytime soon

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Invest 600 bucks in upgrading your PC instead.

[AsHopeDies]

Wait a while...play them all...pick the one you like the most. Everyone's opinion on here is...well...an opinion. All 3 of them seem to be kick ass systems. So like with the last generation consoles...the only real differentiator is your personal preference.

[RancidMilk]

It would be best to wait a few months. It will be easier to compare the two and decide then. Personaly, I'm leaning towards PS3 for a few reasons: Future releases that appeal to me, the controller, and free online play. Although a new computer is the priority for me. I still have a Dell from 2002 with all original parts.

[Da Vinci]

Ps3,

the next generation of games is PS3, all these fucktards will be in awe when PS3 demolishes the gaming scene.

[skater910]

Ps3,

the next generation of games is PS3, all these fucktards will be in awe when PS3 demolishes the gaming scene.

LOL

On topic, upgrade your PC. The only thing that remotely interests me about the 360 is Dead Rising (big fan of zombie games) and the only thing interesting me about the PS3 is MGS4, which will probably come out for another console later on and/or is not worth dropping $550-650 for. I'm hyped for countless games on the PC (I think I'll pass out when I get my hands on Crysis). Second place would be the Wii, but you said that it doesn't do anything for you, so never mind.

I suppose if you had to choose out of those two, I'd say 360.

[Al Paccioli]

Frankly, just wait a few more months to get a general feel of where the developers that make the games you want to play go to. Don't underestimate the Wii, and remember that the PS2 sold more than twice as many consoles than Xbox and Gamecube combined. That's the soundest advice I can give.

[TriggerOfDemise]

PS3 has a very restriction free attitude towards their system..unlike MS 360. PS3 can...

-upgrade to ANY 2.5" hard drive or be modded to use 3.5" hard drive(warranty not voided)http://www.slashgear.com/ps3-hard-drive-upgrade-132464.php MS charges you $100 for a measly 20gb hard drive. for under $90, you can get a 80gb hard drive(or more if you shop right) and swap it on the PS3.

-play almost every media files

-can install Linux and also "other" OS http://www.qj.net/How-to-install-another-OS-on-your-PS3-/pg/49/aid/72538

-supports universal voltage

-use any standard HDMI cable

-record gameplay

-region free

-allows gamer to create their own mods for games just like on the PC

-Sony officially annouced that homebrew will be possible(and they SUPPORT IT!) http://ps3.qj.net/Its-Official-The-PS3-will-support-Linux-and-Homebrew-/pg/49/aid/40039

-open freeroaming online network

-almost %100 of it's 8000+ games are backward compatible... with a few that are not perfect though. cus nothing's perfect. 360 only has 200 games backward compatible currently.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Sooo, in other words... Get a good computer?

[eadgbe]

PS3 has a very restriction free attitude towards their system..unlike MS 360. PS3 can...

-upgrade to ANY 2.5" hard drive or be modded to use 3.5" hard drive(warranty not voided)http://www.slashgear.com/ps3-hard-drive-upgrade-132464.php MS charges you $100 for a measly 20gb hard drive. for under $90, you can get a 80gb hard drive(or more if you shop right) and swap it on the PS3.

-play almost every media files

-can install Linux and also "other" OS http://www.qj.net/How-to-install-another-OS-on-your-PS3-/pg/49/aid/72538

-supports universal voltage

-use any standard HDMI cable

-record gameplay

-region free

-allows gamer to create their own mods for games just like on the PC

-Sony officially annouced that homebrew will be possible(and they SUPPORT IT!) http://ps3.qj.net/Its-Official-The-PS3-will-support-Linux-and-Homebrew-/pg/49/aid/40039

-open freeroaming online network

-almost %100 of it's 8000+ games are backward compatible... with a few that are not perfect though. cus nothing's perfect. 360 only has 200 games backward compatible currently.

but is it FUN?

that's all i care about.

EDIT: yes, that was a loaded question, and no, it won't be as fun.

[ocpunk37]

i went to check prices for 360...i think im gona buy the "299.00" version...and then just get a hard drive ...i save at least 40 bux by doin that...since i have no interest in Xbox live...i dont need the other shit

PLUS!!! i can get 15% discount at Target!!! family works their haha

=\ its only gona cover tax tho haha

[rand0m]

Sooo, in other words... Get a good computer?

Yeah but that costs a fuckload more.

[doorknobopener]

PS3 has a very restriction free attitude towards their system..unlike MS 360. PS3 can...

-upgrade to ANY 2.5" hard drive or be modded to use 3.5" hard drive(warranty not voided)http://www.slashgear.com/ps3-hard-drive-upgrade-132464.php MS charges you $100 for a measly 20gb hard drive. for under $90, you can get a 80gb hard drive(or more if you shop right) and swap it on the PS3.

-play almost every media files

-can install Linux and also "other" OS http://www.qj.net/How-to-install-another-OS-on-your-PS3-/pg/49/aid/72538

-supports universal voltage

-use any standard HDMI cable

-record gameplay

-region free

-allows gamer to create their own mods for games just like on the PC

-Sony officially annouced that homebrew will be possible(and they SUPPORT IT!) http://ps3.qj.net/Its-Official-The-PS3-will-support-Linux-and-Homebrew-/pg/49/aid/40039

-open freeroaming online network

-almost %100 of it's 8000+ games are backward compatible... with a few that are not perfect though. cus nothing's perfect. 360 only has 200 games backward compatible currently.
That reminds me of the PSP. Had a crapload of features and had only a few good games. And we all know how the PSP is turning out

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Depends... If you want to go all out and get a top of the line PC, yeah, expect to shell out 4 grand.

Or, if you shop smart, you could get a PC that would still game extremely well for about double the price of a PS3.

Edit:

Oh, and if you've already got a decent monitor, there's no point in spending another couple hundred on that, instead, invest it back into the computer itself.

[kududoodoop]

PS3 has a very restriction free attitude towards their system..unlike MS 360. PS3 can...

-upgrade to ANY 2.5" hard drive or be modded to use 3.5" hard drive(warranty not voided)http://www.slashgear.com/ps3-hard-drive-upgrade-132464.php MS charges you $100 for a measly 20gb hard drive. for under $90, you can get a 80gb hard drive(or more if you shop right) and swap it on the PS3.

-play almost every media files

-can install Linux and also "other" OS http://www.qj.net/How-to-install-another-OS-on-your-PS3-/pg/49/aid/72538

-supports universal voltage

-use any standard HDMI cable

-record gameplay

-region free

-allows gamer to create their own mods for games just like on the PC

-Sony officially annouced that homebrew will be possible(and they SUPPORT IT!) http://ps3.qj.net/Its-Official-The-PS3-will-support-Linux-and-Homebrew-/pg/49/aid/40039

-open freeroaming online network

-almost %100 of it's 8000+ games are backward compatible... with a few that are not perfect though. cus nothing's perfect. 360 only has 200 games backward compatible currently.

you may be able to put other hard drives in, but it's the speed and cache that matter, and not all hard drives work with it. though a good feature, could possibly screw your system

why install linux, what's the point, that's what computers are for.

universal voltage...cool i'll make sure to bring my ps3 to europe with me

HDMI is good

record? as in like video record? if so, who gives a flying fuck.

ps3 is NOT region free and neither is wii or 360

and how do you create mods on your ps3? and how is it distributed, you know you can mod any console you want.

online network, both 360 and wii have them

8000 games, minus the ones that outright don't work, minus the ones that peform terribly, minus about half, because half of them are quite shitty, case in point backwards compatibility is not that big of a deal, i'm not going to go back and play crash bandicoot 3 anymore. 8000 vs. 300, no shit you have 10 years worth of playstation games vs. 5 years worth of xbox games, no shit. i'm more concerned about THIS generation's games.


still, i see nothing the ps3 has that the 360 doesn't have that would sway me to ps3

[kledster]

what games are supposed to come out for ps3 next month that make it better? most of the games are gonna be on 360, anyways. and EGM said that MGS4 may come out for the 360 in the future.

[SupraTwinTurbo]

Nothing, MooCow just prefers the PS3 to the 360 for some reason. I think he's just waiting on the 'ol ugly MGS4 :rollseyes

Get the 360, the 65nm Chips are getting put in the December Batches aswell as the batches onwards, a few of the games have been listed but there are so many good ones that are out like Viva Pinata, Splinter Cell, Chromehounds, Dead Rising and DOA4 to name a few.

Get a Wii later on when they have better Games out (SSBB + Mario Galaxy FTW!)

What does that mean performance wise?

[Rootraz]

I think he's just waiting on the 'ol ugly MGS4

Ya, must be. Considering the games he mentioned were Killzone and Warhawk

[customerservice]

-allows gamer to create their own mods for games just like on the PC

fucking idiot (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/aug06/08-13XNAGameStudioPR.mspx)

and your other bullet points are fucking stupid. those are the worst reasons ever to buy a console. you are probably one of the greasy losers sitting out side of target right now waiting to get your mitts on whats eventually going to flounder and die.

and you will be thinking to yourself "O.. GAWD ITS REGION FREE Y 4 NO ONE BUY IT?!?!?!" finally... i can import hideo kojimas brilliance before it EVER gets released here, in a language i can understand!!!

[Turbocharger]

I'm not trying to insult Sony here, but this whole thing reminds me of a movie plot. A company makes this giant extravagant thing that is supposedly able to do everything in the world, then a different company makes a cheaper less sophisticated item to compete with it. Then the expensive ultra-marvelous thing turns out to break and not do anything right, while the cheaper one works great and makes people happy.

Not a great comparison, but you get the idea.

[clutch-monkey]

What does that mean performance wise?
yeah, and if it makes a huge difference can it be retro-fitted to already purchased 360's

[SupraTwinTurbo]

yeah, and if it makes a huge difference can it be retro-fitted to already purchased 360's

I did a quick search on it and I think it has to do with the processor. Im assuming it will be a faster processor?

[clutch-monkey]

I did a quick search on it and I think it has to do with the processor. Im assuming it will be a faster processor?

i'm just hoping if it's a big improvement you can have it fitted to an existing 360 :confused:

[Xbox 360]

I have a question about the PS3

I have heard that it is not HD compatible, is this true?

[MusicIsDead]

I have a question about the PS3

I have heard that it is not HD compatible, is this true?

Man youre names Xbox 360, your avy is xbox, and ur slogan is xboxs slogan. Are you getting paid?:err:

[Pillow]

Man youre names Xbox 360, your avy is xbox, and ur slogan is xboxs slogan. Are you getting paid?:err:

I don't think he posts enough to warrant anyway to pay him.

Probably just a fanboy.

[Rootraz]

I have a question about the PS3

I have heard that it is not HD compatible, is this true?

Well, since nobody answered your question, i guess I will. No, that's not true

[TriggerOfDemise]

fucking idiot (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/aug06/08-13XNAGameStudioPR.mspx)

and your other bullet points are fucking stupid. those are the worst reasons ever to buy a console. you are probably one of the greasy losers sitting out side of target right now waiting to get your mitts on whats eventually going to flounder and die.

and you will be thinking to yourself "O.. GAWD ITS REGION FREE Y 4 NO ONE BUY IT?!?!?!" finally... i can import hideo kojimas brilliance before it EVER gets released here, in a language i can understand!!!


ooh wow, you got me with the link! oh no! what must i do!

ahhaha im glad i pissed you off. you're an noob when it comes to flaming....someday you'll learn though. carry on grasshopper! hehe

[customerservice]

ooh wow, you got me with the link! oh no! what must i do!
apparantly youre going to do nothing except say i'm a "noob". gg.

ahhaha im glad i pissed you off. you're an noob when it comes to flaming....someday you'll learn though. carry on grasshopper! hehe
i'm a "noob" when it comes to "flaming"? i wasnt flaming you r-tard, i was pointing out that your post was trite, and was wrong.

[Turbocharger]

apparantly youre going to do nothing except say i'm a "noob". gg.

i'm a "noob" when it comes to "flaming"? i wasnt flaming you r-tard, i was pointing out that your post was trite, and was wrong.

You misspelled "artard".

And you obviously looked up the word "trite" so you could sound smart.

[customerservice]

You misspelled "artard".

And you obviously looked up the word "trite" so you could sound smart.
i know plenty of words, big and small.

here's one for you: dipshit

anybody who has graduated high school with a C or above should know the word trite.

[MooCowzRock]

i know plenty of words, big and small.

here's one for you: dipshit

anybody who has graduated high school with a C or above should know the word trite.

I am making over a 4.0 GPA, made a 1950 on may SATs, and got a 3 and a 4 on my AP US and AP Bio AP tests, and am in 3 AP classes right now, along with honors in everything else......

And I have no idea what trite means.:dunce:

[ocpunk37]

WHOA! whoa whoa.... the 299.00$ core 360 dosnt have HDD? how much does it cost to upgrade? and are the graphics gona have a major difference?>

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Meh, high definition console gaming is over rated.

As for the core system. Check out Amazon's front page. Save yourself 200 dollars (or 300-400 if you were planning on the PS3). And simply get a hard drive for it. Hell, depending on how much space save files take, a memory stick might be the way to go. I personally don't give a shit about Live play, but I like having music on my XBox.

[rand0m]

At the moment High dfinition console gaming is overrated, however i have a HD-TV that pixelates with normal tv and my ps2, i want somthing to actually use all the pixels on the screen.

[psychomonkey62]

Konami really wants MGS4 to be released for the 360, which would completely kill ANY interest in the PS3 for me. I hope they do.......

[ZeroTigerX]

This reminds me of the last generation. Everybody became PS2 fanboys because it came out earlier, and wouldn't move to the Xbox despite it's superiority. Now it is the other way around.

[MooCowzRock]

Konami really wants MGS4 to be released for the 360, which would completely kill ANY interest in the PS3 for me. I hope they do.......

Never....Hideo is too loyal to the Japanese community. I dont see it happening any time soon.