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eadgbe
11-20-2006, 03:29 AM
I used to be annoyed by this all too common occurence: someone recklessly bashing all consoles but his own. What puzzled me, however, was why this behavior was rarely seen outside the realm of video game consoles. After some consideration, I now think that fanboyism should be welcomed, not shunned. It isn't simply some stupid activity that retarded 12-year-olds do, but rather a complex phenomenon almost completely restricted to video games and systems.
The nature of the business is what creates this phenomenon: the major console companies create units that one must own to play the games that go with that unit. Smaller companies compete for market share for each brand of console. This exclusivity has a strange effect: when one larger company loses market share in the market for consoles, less people own the basic unit, and all the smaller companies developing for that system lose money as well. They in turn have less to spend on production, leading to games with lower budgets. New developers are discouraged from entering the market for that console, and veteran developers are more inclined to abandon the system. This is exactly what happened with the Gamecube. Nintendo couldn't sell enough units, so the potential profit of a Gamecube developer was tiny compared to that of a developer for another system. A mass exodus of developers followed, leading to its essential death.
This is where fanboys come in. Someone who invests in a system obviously wants good games, and because the quality of the games is directly linked to the success of the console, as described above, he therefore wants the system to be as successful as possible. Doing anything he can to get other people to abandon alternate consoles and buy his console is only natural.
Moral of the story: Don't get mad at people when they say something stupid about your system. Don't yell at that wii60 guy when he says that the PS3 will kill your family and the CEO of sony will take a dump on your porch. Fanboys are people too; they just suck at marketing.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 06:18 AM
...I scan read what you said.
Anyway, I think Console Launches are like Sports, you root for whichever Console you support and say yours will beat others.
When a Console is in Trouble, instead of resorting to "Well, we have alot of injurys", they reply "Well, it's got the Games I want". It's something I noticed, when browsing Forums.
Not forgetting the Sony Fanboys, especially here, are the worst, anyone remember me posting Game news from E3-TGS? All Sony got was bad PR, problems and other Bullshit...I posted it to inform, all I got was:
"Y00 iZ M$/N1|\|7y Fanbo1z, s0nY is a s3xGOD an|) r4Pe me"
But it can be said about all 3 Camps. If somebody Posts bullshit, counter it with a Fact, if they cry, ignore them...Or do the Basic formula:
"Go fuck ___ For ___"
Example:
"Go fuck Reggie for Nunchucks"
"Go fuck Peter Moore for Prepaid Live! Cards"
"Go fuck ken Kutaragi for BluRay Discs"
firepiss
11-20-2006, 06:45 AM
Here's what I know about the forum:
playstation fan boy division:
Rand0m
Wu-tang
Cee
MooCowz
Flesh Warlord
Nintendo fan boy divsion:
IGneois
firepiss (I'll admit it, I'm a little bias)
ROFLcopterPILOT
Xbox fan boy division:
Wii60
Wii60 Versus rand0m has been a pretty good fued.
I use to hate fan boys but it's cool. It is like rooting for a sports team. I'm probably going to get my ass flammed.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 06:54 AM
playstation fan boy division:
Rand0m
Wu-tang
Cee
MooCowz
Flesh Warlord
Nintendo fan boy divsion:
IGneois
firepiss (I'll admit it, I'm a little bias)
ROFLcopterPILOT
Xbox fan boy division:
Wii60
Wii60 Versus rand0m has been a pretty good fued.
I thought Wii60 was a Ninty Fanboy and a Microsft Fanboy?
EDIT: I reckon we should Sticky a Topic about "Who belongs to which Division", would be good for shits and giggles.
GeekyXP
11-20-2006, 07:57 AM
The only thing that I don't like about fanboyism, is the hyprocracy involved in it. Example, I remember back when 360 came out, all the sony fanboys were making fun of people for standing outside, waiting, and camping for days, before the release...
Yet, when ps3 came out, none of them made fun of the people doing the same exact thing.
In my opinion.. fanboyism is just stupid. Were gamers, nothing more, nothing less. We shouldnt be fighting over which is the better system, or which games are better, we should just be sharing the experience that we have as a gaming community.
Here's what I know about the forum:
playstation fan boy division:
Rand0m
Wu-tang
Cee
MooCowz
Flesh Warlord
Nintendo fan boy divsion:
IGneois
firepiss (I'll admit it, I'm a little bias)
ROFLcopterPILOT
Xbox fan boy division:
Wii60
Wii60 Versus rand0m has been a pretty good fued.
I use to hate fan boys but it's cool. It is like rooting for a sports team. I'm probably going to get my ass flammed.
I thought I was more indifferent. I actually own 360 and most recently ordered a Wii for my brother.
I am so sad.
Molson
11-20-2006, 09:50 AM
In my opinion.. fanboyism is just stupid. Were gamers, nothing more, nothing less. We shouldnt be fighting over which is the better system, or which games are better, we should just be sharing the experience that we have as a gaming community.
yeah, and there should be world peace too..
OOpman
11-20-2006, 10:27 AM
Here's what I know about the forum:
playstation fan boy division:
Rand0m
Wu-tang
Cee
MooCowz
Flesh Warlord
Nintendo fan boy divsion:
IGneois
firepiss (I'll admit it, I'm a little bias)
ROFLcopterPILOT
Xbox fan boy division:
Wii60
Wii60 Versus rand0m has been a pretty good fued.
I use to hate fan boys but it's cool. It is like rooting for a sports team. I'm probably going to get my ass flammed.
You should be adding Xeoset to the Xbox Team from what i read he seems like he deserves the spot.
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-20-2006, 11:03 AM
Pff, I use the name WiiMote when playing Wolf:ET.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 11:53 AM
You should be adding Xeoset to the Xbox Team from what i read he seems like he deserves the spot.
I actually belong in the Sega Camp...I stick up for the new kid on the Block, and actually own a 360, aswell as a Genesis, SNES, PS1, PS2, Xbox and Gamecube and I'm having my Wii Pre-Ordered next week.
I just like Sega Games and a few Series.
Fanboy of Games, not Consoles.
rand0m
11-20-2006, 01:27 PM
I'd just like to point out that i think all the systems are pretty awsome.When people go out their way to completely bash a system to the ground it pisses me off, why? because those people are talking out their fucking assholes. Also extremely overhyping a game is pretty annoying and gay.
However to me the Playstation 3 strengths are the sort im looking for.
I mean hell the Wii mote looks pretty sweet, however im lazy and like the more violent games and nice graphics.
The xbox 360 has pretty nice graphics and quite a good game base starting up, however it lacks hardware functions that i need.
People like Wii60, seem hell bent on the fact that one of the systems is shit. He doesnt take any compromises, taking as many hits on it as possible and attacking anyone that trys to defend it.
Fanboys shouldnt be praised, for they loose all rational thought and destroy any chances of any compotition to arise.
A perfect example is the movie Equilibrium, when it came out some Matrix fan-boys started spouting shit that it was coping the matrix and thus spread rumors about it sucking, in effect killing the support it should have gotten at the cinema.
Fanboys are not good.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 02:21 PM
The xbox 360 has pretty nice graphics and quite a good game base starting up, however it lacks hardware functions that i need.
Out of curiosity, what are these functions? HDMI? WiFi?
rand0m
11-20-2006, 02:49 PM
Out of curiosity, what are these functions? HDMI? WiFi?
-Backwards compabilty (ps games)
-Blue-ray
-Wi-Fi, with just free internet play.
-Controllers, i like the tilt option.
-Quiet Cooling, (my headphones dont reach from my tv to the sofa)
-Open operating system and gaming community (mods, anyhardrive compaitble)
-Card reader and shit, USB ports.
-Keyboard and mouse supported
and that awsome sleak black design which goes perfectly with my TV, DVD-player and stand.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 03:06 PM
-Backwards compabilty (ps games)
You'll have to wait for the Update to clear that
-Blue-ray
Unless you own a BluRay Player/Movie already I can't really understand why you'd want this over HD-DVD seeing how MS owns the better HD Formats
-Wi-Fi, with just free internet play.
The Wii has that for £180
-Controllers, i like the tilt option.
The Wii has Full Motion Sensing
-Quiet Cooling, (my headphones dont reach from my tv to the sofa)
This isn't a Feature lol, but my 360 runs almost Silently
-Open operating system and gaming community (mods, anyhardrive compaitble)
Fist Console Benifical Point you've made so far :p, though the Mods are a bad point, it'll Screw Online Gaming.
-Card reader and shit, USB ports.
Both the Wii and 360 has these...
-Keyboard and mouse supported
The 360 has these
and that awsome sleak black design which goes perfectly with my TV, DVD-player and stand.
Not trying to stop you with your Purchase, but you could get all that for at least £220 cheaper. Unless you haven't listed all the "Features" you want, you must be hell bent on FFXIII :D
rand0m
11-20-2006, 03:12 PM
Urm, I would like blue ray since my TV looks crap with normal dvds. I need somthing to actually use all the pixels on the screen.
Most the decent games are still work with the PS3.
Wii doesnt have ne decent games (for me)
I dont want full motion sensing, like i said im lazy.
Xbox 360 and Wii dont have the full card reading kit.
My friends xbox 360 is quite noisy, (not that bad, just really noticable)
You can actually use keyboard and mouse in games in PS3, xbox 360 wont allow it.
Burningnun
11-20-2006, 03:14 PM
Fanboys for processors are stupider. They ignore the benchmarks and are convinced that their company is better. Unless you own shares in a company, what do you actually achieve in being a fanboy?
xeoset
11-20-2006, 03:18 PM
Urm, I would like blue ray since my TV looks crap with normal dvds. I need somthing to actually use all the pixels on the screen.
...Like I pointed out, HD-DVD offers better use of those Pixels
Wii doesnt have ne decent games (for me)
An Opinion, which I respect.
I dont want full motion sensing, like i said im lazy.
Ok, you do realise you have to MOVE to use Tilt right?
Xbox 360 and Wii dont have the full card reading kit.
Yes they do. The 360 Reads all External HDD's, MP3 Players and the Wii reads all SD Cards.
My friends xbox 360 is quite noisy, (not that bad, just really noticable)
...Like I said, mines almost Silent.
You can actually use keyboard and mouse in games in PS3, xbox 360 wont allow it.
You can with the 360, I used the Keyboard while playing Phanatsy Star Universe Beta...
...I think your running on Opinions of a Console, not Opinions of what you need.
rand0m
11-20-2006, 04:07 PM
...Like I pointed out, HD-DVD offers better use of those Pixels
They're disk formats ... how do they affect the use of Pixels on a screen.
Ok, you do realise you have to MOVE to use Tilt right?
Hardly at all, simply a little flick of the wrists.
Yes they do. The 360 Reads all External HDD's, MP3 Players and the Wii reads all SD Cards.
Oh ok, still PS3 has all of it in one.
My friends xbox 360 is quite noisy, (not that bad, just really noticable)
...Like I said, mines almost Silent.
like i said, ive seen one and their noisy.
You can with the 360, I used the Keyboard while playing Phanatsy Star Universe Beta...
Can you link to an article or somthing which specifically states the Xbox360 allows keyboard and mouse to be used in gameplay. Since i cant find ne thing.
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-20-2006, 04:31 PM
Found several different sources saying that the XBox 360 does in fact support keyboard for online chatting after about 5 minutes on google. You simply plug it into the front (through the controllers extension).
As of yet, there doesn't seem to be any support for a mouse though.
rand0m
11-20-2006, 04:34 PM
.... im talking about GAMEPLAY USING MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IN GAMES AS IN MOVING WITH THE KEYBOARD
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 05:36 PM
Here's what I know about the forum:
playstation fan boy division:
Rand0m
Wu-tang
Cee
MooCowz
Flesh Warlord
Nintendo fan boy divsion:
IGneois
firepiss (I'll admit it, I'm a little bias)
ROFLcopterPILOT
Xbox fan boy division:
Wii60
Wii60 Versus rand0m has been a pretty good fued.
I use to hate fan boys but it's cool. It is like rooting for a sports team. I'm probably going to get my ass flammed.
you forgot xeoset is a 360 fanboy....or at least and anti-ps3 fanboy.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 05:44 PM
.... im talking about GAMEPLAY USING MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IN GAMES AS IN MOVING WITH THE KEYBOARD
I'm pretty sure it does, I only tested Typing in PSU, I'll have a look for an Article.
you forgot xeoset is a 360 fanboy....or at least and anti-ps3 fanboy.
Hey babes, read my earlier Post in this Thread. :rolleyes:
ItchyItchyFace
11-20-2006, 05:45 PM
I am tired of all systems. The PS2, XBox, PS3, Xbox360, PSP, GBA, Gamecube all bore me to death.
I am however exited by games like Brain Age, ElectroPlankton and WiiSports.
Does that make me a Nintendo Fanboy?
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 05:47 PM
Oh yeah, and I'll go ahead and add---
The PS3 has the graphics of the 360, AND the controller of the Wii.....It has both in one. The Six-axis controller is worth the extra hundred dollars over the 360 all by itself!!
Not to mention it comes with a STANDARD HD, meaning developers never have to take into consideration those people that DONT have the HD, meaning BETTER GAMES.
Not to mention HD bluray movies out of the box, without having to pay 200 more dollars for an add-on.
FREE ONLINE SERVICES AND GAMING.
plus a whole lot more not right off the top of my head...
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 05:51 PM
I am tired of all systems. The PS2, XBox, PS3, Xbox360, PSP, GBA, Gamecube all bore me to death.
I am however exited by games like Brain Age, ElectroPlankton and WiiSports.
Does that make me a Nintendo Fanboy?
no, if you're just interested in those games, whatever. You're only a fanboy when you claim your console is better.....when it clearly isnt.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 05:54 PM
Here we go...:rolleyes:
Oh yeah, and I'll go ahead and add---
The PS3 has the graphics of the 360, AND the controller of the Wii.....It has both in one. The Six-axis controller is worth the extra hundred dollars over the 360 all by itself!!
...360 has better Graphics, it's been said a million times already and SIXAXIS is nothing compared to the WiiMote...And I can buy both Systems and get WiiSports + a Games for the same price.
Not to mention it comes with a STANDARD HD, meaning developers never have to take into consideration those people that DONT have the HD, meaning BETTER GAMES.
So that's why all the BC Games look like Crap? :rolleyes:
Not to mention HD bluray movies out of the box, without having to pay 200 more dollars for an add-on.
Meaning I can buy it later, you know, when there's a steady Stream of HD-DVD Movies.
FREE ONLINE SERVICES AND GAMING.
So wheres your Unified Friends List? Can't Message in a Game? Can't Video Chat? Can't Voice Chat in a Game? Have a Website as a Marketplace, Puh-Lease.
plus a whole lot more not right off the top of my head...
What's the matter? Feel threatened? The PS3 not living up what you expected it to?...Get off the Internet and cry to Mommy, we don't want to hear it.
no, if you're just interested in those games, whatever. You're only a fanboy when you claim your console is better.....when it clearly isnt.
Irony, at it's fucking best.
MercifulMolina
11-20-2006, 05:56 PM
no, if you're just interested in those games, whatever. You're only a fanboy when you claim your console is better.....when it clearly isnt.
So basically you're saying that the PS3 isn't as good as the Wii or 360 because you did acknowlodge that you were a PS3 fanboy or atleast you didnt't deny it either that or your defintion makes no sense
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-20-2006, 06:06 PM
.... im talking about GAMEPLAY USING MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IN GAMES AS IN MOVING WITH THE KEYBOARD
Exactly, and that's why I specified that only the keyboard is used for chatting.
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 06:26 PM
Here we go...:rolleyes:
What's the matter? Feel threatened? The PS3 not living up what you expected it to?...Get off the Internet and cry to Mommy, we don't want to hear it.
Irony, at it's fucking best.
Wrong, to get everything the PS3 has and can do, you would have to pay at least 700 dollars for the 360, and 250 dollars for the Wii, because the Wii's graphics cant get any better...
That is almost 1000 dollars for what the PS3 does for 500.
And you better learn WTF you're talking about when talking about video chatting, etc. With the PS3, you can set up a different TV and video chat WHILE PLAYING A GAME!!!!!
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-20-2006, 06:26 PM
Oh yeah, and I'll go ahead and add---
The PS3 has the graphics of the 360, AND the controller of the Wii.....It has both in one. The Six-axis controller is worth the extra hundred dollars over the 360 all by itself!!
Not to mention it comes with a STANDARD HD, meaning developers never have to take into consideration those people that DONT have the HD, meaning BETTER GAMES.
Not to mention HD bluray movies out of the box, without having to pay 200 more dollars for an add-on.
FREE ONLINE SERVICES AND GAMING.
plus a whole lot more not right off the top of my head...
You know, I don't care if the console uses a holographic projector. If the games don't deliver, you've got a piece of crap console. And frankly, the PS3 simply doesn't deliver for the more hardcore gamers. Hardcore gamers that want to play online will get a PC. Hardcore gamers that enjoy single player games on consoles will go for the one that actually provides the gamers with an addictive sort of challenge.
The PS3 is fantastic for a casual gamer with too much money to spend. But they might want the XBox 360 more anyways because they may prefer MS's games.
And spout all of the technical nonsensical jargon you want, fact or fiction, I don't care. The PSP is simply more technologically advanced than the DS, but which one sells more? Which has more games? Which do people actually enjoy playing more?
Call me oblivious, call me discriminatory, point out that all of my "facts" are purely circumstantial. Save this post and talk to me again in a couple years. The PS3 simply won't do as well as the PS2 did.
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 06:31 PM
You know, I don't care if the console uses a holographic projector. If the games don't deliver, you've got a piece of crap console. And frankly, the PS3 simply doesn't deliver for the more hardcore gamers. Hardcore gamers that want to play online will get a PC. Hardcore gamers that enjoy single player games on consoles will go for the one that actually provides the gamers with an addictive sort of challenge.
The PS3 is fantastic for a casual gamer with too much money to spend. But they might want the XBox 360 more anyways because they may prefer MS's games.
And spout all of the technical nonsensical jargon you want, fact or fiction, I don't care. The PSP is simply more technologically advanced than the DS, but which one sells more? Which has more games? Which do people actually enjoy playing more?
Call me oblivious, call me discriminatory, point out that all of my "facts" are purely circumstantial. Save this post and talk to me again in a couple years. The PS3 simply won't do as well as the PS2 did.
So.....you're claiming gamers like 360 games better than PS3 games.....when the PS3 is BARELY even out yet...
Flesh Warlord
11-20-2006, 07:10 PM
I am defiantly a PS3 fan boy, I prefer it much more then the other consoles. The games, the controller and the whole system itself.
There are 2 kinds of fan boys, at least of what I have seen.
#1. The type who will actually own one particular system, but will still enjoy other systems very much. Even compliment other consoles.
#2. The type who will totally bag on other systems, say everything about the other systems is shit and that his/her console is the obvious winner. (So many of them on this forum!!)
I remember back in my school days when there was PS1 vs N64. This loser had a PS1 book and he found a picture of the N64 symbol in it and got angry, then ripped out that whole page and threw it away. Makes me angry how stupid some people are.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 07:11 PM
Wrong, to get everything the PS3 has and can do, you would have to pay at least 700 dollars for the 360, and 250 dollars for the Wii, because the Wii's graphics cant get any better...
That is almost 1000 dollars for what the PS3 does for 500.
Ohhhh, your on about Sony's false Spreadsheet, you know the one that MS Threatened to Sue over, then Sony shit it's pants and said Sorry?
Premium 360:
Console
HDD
Headset
Wireless Controller
*HD* Cables
1 Month of Live Free x3
£250
Premium PS3:
Console
HDD
Wireless Controller
BluRay
...?
£475
-For £100 I can get a HD-DVD Drive, which plays better Compression/Formats than what the BluRay can (H.264, e.t.c).
-The PS3's gonna need some HDMI Cables to play in HD, £100
360: £350
PS3: £575
Wow, that really is more expensive isn't it...Oh right, no it isn't.
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 07:45 PM
Ohhhh, your on about Sony's false Spreadsheet, you know the one that MS Threatened to Sue over, then Sony shit it's pants and said Sorry?
Premium 360:
Console
HDD
Headset
Wireless Controller
*HD* Cables
1 Month of Live Free x3
£250
Premium PS3:
Console
HDD
Wireless Controller
BluRay
...?
£475
-For £100 I can get a HD-DVD Drive, which plays better Compression/Formats than what the BluRay can (H.264, e.t.c).
-The PS3's gonna need some HDMI Cables to play in HD, £100
360: £350
PS3: £575
Wow, that really is more expensive isn't it...Oh right, no it isn't.
lol, you are DESPERATE to mislead people....you forgot including the 250 Wii in the 360 price, because the 360 controller it not as capable as the PS3 controller, you forgot the 50 dollars yearly for live, you also forgot the 200 dollar price tag for hd on the 360, etc....
But you go ahead and leave all that out. Leave out whatever numbers you want, it doesnt make the 360 any better.:rollseyes
silverspade14
11-20-2006, 07:49 PM
lol, you are DESPERATE to mislead people....you forgot including the 250 Wii in the 360 price, because the 360 controller it not as capable as the PS3 controller, you forgot the 50 dollars yearly for live, you also forgot the 200 dollar price tag for hd on the 360, etc....
But you go ahead and leave all that out. Leave out whatever numbers you want, it doesnt make the 360 any better.:rollseyes
The PS3 controller is not as capable as the Wii controller. So nyeh!
MooCowzRock
11-20-2006, 08:06 PM
The PS3 controller is not as capable as the Wii controller. So nyeh!
Very close. The Wii has the added ability of having two of them at a time, but the PS3 makes up for that with dual analog.
xeoset
11-20-2006, 08:07 PM
lol, you are DESPERATE to mislead people....you forgot including the 250 Wii in the 360 price, because the 360 controller it not as capable as the PS3 controller, you forgot the 50 dollars yearly for live, you also forgot the 200 dollar price tag for hd on the 360, etc....
But you go ahead and leave all that out. Leave out whatever numbers you want, it doesnt make the 360 any better.:rollseyes
FFS.
I'm misleading people? SIXAXIS is nothing more than Sony being so scared of losing to the Wii they needed to *TRY* to steal their thunder, which backfired.
I don't need LIVE! for the Video Chat, Text Chat, Marketplace, Arcade, Unified Friends List.
And my Prices are the English Prices, the HDD here is £100. My pirces remain True
Wii: £180
360: £350
PS3: £575
Very close. The Wii has the added ability of having two of them at a time, but the PS3 makes up for that with dual analog.
Wrong again.
SIXAXIS = 3 Postivie, 3 Negative.
WiiMote = Unlimted
ItchyItchyFace
11-20-2006, 08:11 PM
:banghead: What the fuck is this shit with the prices?
The main reason for buying a console is the games, and having fun. Wii, Xbox360 and PS3 have different games. Saying things like "price(PS3) < price(X360) + price(Wii), thus PS3 is cheaper" makes no sense.
PS3 = 500$
Amount of people having fun with PS3 in my home: 1 (me).
500/1 = 500$
Wii = 250$
Amount of people having fun with Wii in my home: 3 (me, dad, old sister, maybe mom)
250/3 = 64$
Wii wins. :p
MexAmercn_Moose
11-20-2006, 08:14 PM
.... im talking about GAMEPLAY USING MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IN GAMES AS IN MOVING WITH THE KEYBOARD
lol...just use a computer
oh and to you console fanboys...pc> everything
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-20-2006, 08:47 PM
So.....you're claiming gamers like 360 games better than PS3 games.....when the PS3 is BARELY even out yet...
I didn't say that; thanks for putting words in my mouth. But I'll clarify since I was typing too fast for you before.
I said that a casual gamer might get the 360, or might get the PS3. They might prefer the games out on the 360 over the ones on the PS3. They might prefer the opposite.
What I WAS claiming was that hardcore gamers are going to go for PC games over consoles for multiplayer. And if they like console games that are actually challenging, they might look look in a different direction than the PS3 since it's trying to focus more on multiplayer this generation. Let's face it, the single player portions of multiplayer games lack challenge. If you want a game that's really going to make your fingers blister, you'll go for something with a more arcade style gameplay.
Each new generation of console dumbs down the difficulty of games more and more. There's few companies out there that actually challenge you as a gamer to complete objectives. And, at the risk of sounding like a fanboy, Nintendo is the only one I really find releasing games like that. XBox's Ninja Gaiden was a real hit with me, because it was hard as hell. But I can't think of a single PS2 exclusive that really made me work hard to complete my goals, not saying there aren't any, just that I haven't seen or played one yet.
Now, I'm not saying the PS2 didn't have good games. There were definitely a some real gems on the system. But, personally, I prefer some difficulty when playing a game.
Edit:
Ah, and also, it looks pretty bad to quote an entire statement with a counterpoint to only a single paragraph in it. Especially when someone makes several points, and your rebuttle is completely misguided.
rand0m
11-21-2006, 01:04 PM
Xeoset ... woo your compairing prices from a console thats been out for a year with one thats barely left the factory ...
And you state the xbox 360 premium for 250 when
http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=xbox+360+premium&btnG=Search&hl=en&show=dd
then you state WHOOO HOLY SHIT
PS3 HDMI CABLES 100 FUCKING POUNDS WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xeoset are you fucking joking? Your taking the fucking piss right? 100 fucking pounds for a cable ...
You know the more i read your post the more it pisses me off, and the more it makes me not want to buy a Xbox 360.
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746978p1.html
Ohh fucking look at that
Today, Sony Japan at last got around to announcing official PS3 brand cables. Set for Japanese release on 11/22 is an official D-terminal cable. It will be followed on 12/7 by a composite AV cable, an S-video cable and a component AV cable. The composite cable will sell for 1,500 yen with the three other cables delivering double plus performance for double the price, 3,000 yen.
3,000.00 JPY
Japan Yen = 13.3962 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds
Round that up because where an island and we get riped, ooo about 15-20 pound MAX
OK, im going to re do this correctly.
Xbox 360 Premium £279.99 (http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=Xbox+360+premium&btnG=Search+Froogle&hl=en)
+
HD-DVD £129.99 (http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=Xbox+360+HD-DVD&btnG=Search&hl=en&show=dd)
+
Xbox 360 Harddrive 20Gig £63.99 (http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=Xbox+360+hard+drive&btnG=Search&hl=en&show=dd) x 2 (ps3 has 60gig)
+
Flash card reader £24.99 (http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=Xbox+360+flash+card+reader&btnG=Search&hl=en&show=dd)
= £562.95
Playstation 3 Main pack (blue-ray, 60gig hd, wifi) = £315-350
+ £15 - 20 for cables.
= £330-370
emoisgay
11-21-2006, 02:10 PM
the guy missed the pc gamers that laugh at console gamers <----.
Fan boys are okay i guess every one needs idiots and the ps3 fanboys are what we need to feel better about our selfs when we realize life sucks.
xeoset
11-21-2006, 06:25 PM
You don't NEED a Flash Card Reader for the 360, it has no fucking use for it, no Console should even need a USB Port in the First Place, EVER!
So your that desperate to find the highest priced 360? Ok, I'll go find the Cheapest.
Core - Amazon - $100 - £52
HDD - Newegg - $100 - $52
HD DVD - Newegg - $200 - £104
Wireless Pad - Newegg - $40 - £20
£228.
Playstation 3 Main pack (blue-ray, 60gig hd, wifi) = £315-350
PS3? £315? Fuck right off mate.
Phail. (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/18/uk-playstation-3-comes-in-at-425-sony-loses-its-marbles/)
£425
MooCowzRock
11-21-2006, 08:36 PM
You don't NEED a Flash Card Reader for the 360, it has no fucking use for it, no Console should even need a USB Port in the First Place, EVER!
So your that desperate to find the highest priced 360? Ok, I'll go find the Cheapest.
Core - Amazon - $100 - £52
HDD - Newegg - $100 - $52
HD DVD - Newegg - $200 - £104
Wireless Pad - Newegg - $40 - £20
£228.
PS3? £315? Fuck right off mate.
Phail. (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/18/uk-playstation-3-comes-in-at-425-sony-loses-its-marbles/)
£425
What the FUCK are you talking about the core 360 being 100 dollars???? Are you talking about that one time, first come first serve sale that Amazon is doing for only 10,000 360s???
We are talking about REAL PRICES, STOP SKEWING THE NUMBERS. A core 360 is 300 dollars, period.
rand0m
11-22-2006, 01:23 PM
Xeoset has been making things up ...
xeoset
11-22-2006, 03:35 PM
Xeoset has been making things up ...
O rly?
On Black Friday and the following two days Amazon.com Priced the Core 360 at $100. I didn't even know WTF Black Friday was till an American Friend sent me that link to the 360.
Black Friday is where they slash electronic prices to pracitaclly Zero, not to mention alot of 360 Merchandise was filling stores because MS had a shipment 11 days ago and Amazon.com was stuffed and had to move it. I've actually got a pic of the sale somewhere.
MooCowzRock
11-22-2006, 04:07 PM
O rly?
On Black Friday and the following two days Amazon.com Priced the Core 360 at $100. I didn't even know WTF Black Friday was till an American Friend sent me that link to the 360.
Black Friday is where they slash electronic prices to pracitaclly Zero, not to mention alot of 360 Merchandise was filling stores because MS had a shipment 11 days ago and Amazon.com was stuffed and had to move it. I've actually got a pic of the sale somewhere.
Dude, its a fucking promotional sale and only for about 10,000 360's. You cant use that to claim the 360 only costs 100 dollars. Christ, dude, you are really pulling some stupid arguments lately...have we really backed you into a corner that badly?
kledster
11-22-2006, 04:10 PM
it's just a console. jesus. don't get your underwear in a bunch guys. go play some games or something.
MooCowzRock
11-22-2006, 04:15 PM
it's just a console. jesus. don't get your underwear in a bunch guys. go play some games or something.
I'm going to go and play Gears of War, right now...I've almost beat it...
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