Dream Theater

[slapnpopbass]

I love them, but I'm pissed that not many people know them. I'm slowly spreading the faith. If you havent listened, check them out. I hope you wont be disappointed.:wave:

[VercettiCartel]

They remind me of Symphony X. However, I think Dreamtheatre started playing music before they did.

[sparrky]

Dream Theater is by far my favorite band, other bands are good, even amazing, but DT is godlike.

[Solaris]

I love 'em too, and I think they're generally famous in metal circles.

[wrathchild]

I love Images & Words and Awake, but every album has a handful of awesome songs on it.

[ThePope#15]

Yeah I love them. I always thought they were pretty popular though.

[Sezril]

I used to be fanatical about Dream Theater. Nowadays, eh. I like them but I'm not so big on progressive metal in general anymore.

[Mount_Happy]

Ive loved em for a couple years now, seeing them live was mind-blowing.

[slapnpopbass]

Crap, i should have made this a public poll, so we'd know who to flame...

[tripb19]

They have inspired me more than any other band, and I love their music dearly, but I think Portnoy is a tool for letting his influences getting in the way of other members' creativity.

[Liquid Tension]

They have inspired me more than any other band, and I love their music dearly, but I think Portnoy is a tool for letting his influences getting in the way of other members' creativity.

What do you mean?

[tripb19]

What do you mean?

Preventing Myung/La Brie/Ruddess from having musical input on 8vm and making 1 track sound like a blatant U2 rip-off and 2 tracks sound like blatant Muse ripoffs because they are/were the bands Portnoy was currently listening to.

[YouEnjoyMyself]

They're pretty talented musicians, but I find their music to be SUPER boring.

[strikeandburn]

When I first listened to DT I thought they sucked and that guys voice was annoying, Now I think they are just amazing musicians, I've only heard 2 of their albums but i'm looking forward to getting more of them.
Fuck, I'll listen to DT right now.

[Liquid Tension]

Preventing Myung/La Brie/Ruddess from having musical input on 8vm and making 1 track sound like a blatant U2 rip-off and 2 tracks sound like blatant Muse ripoffs because they are/were the bands Portnoy was currently listening to.


Where did you here this from?

[atreyu_2020]

I love them, but I'm pissed that not many people know them. I'm slowly spreading the faith. If you havent listened, check them out. I hope you wont be disappointed.:wave:

They're one of the most musically versatile bands in the history of music, how can people not know of them? I dont know if this is true but if it is, that's just wrong.

[slapnpopbass]

I just introduced this kid at work to them. He's already a Rush and iron maiden fan, so i told him to sit back and hold on. I played This Dying Soul for him. He was in utter shock.

[temp100]

Mmm, I like Dream Theater.

Petrucci can go a bit over the top at times, but they're seriously a good band.

[Gooser]

I chose "Meh, their alright".

But Metropolis and The Glass prison have been 2 of my favourite songs for a while now, so im a fan i guess.

im gonna buy their album, which one should i get first?

[Sander]

There excellent but most dont know some guitar stuff is on piano and sounds like huitar :)

[The Machine]

Liquid Tension Experiment IMO is better cuz its' DT without the singing.

[GNR Fan]

I chose "Meh, their alright".

But Metropolis and The Glass prison have been 2 of my favourite songs for a while now, so im a fan i guess.

im gonna buy their album, which one should i get first?

Images and Words, Train of Thought, Awake. Are all very good albums try and get one of those.

[MiKe]

They're pretty good. Dream Theater is what happens when you combine monstrous musical talent and creative genious with bitchy vocals. There's tons of bands out there like this.
Musically speaking, and in terms of talent and capability, the whole band is fuckin incredible. But very often they tend to over-do it and it seems like they're trying too hard, like they're just saying "Hey! Look what I can do!". But they are amazing when it comes to writing complex and very technical music. It can just get boring after a while.
I prefer Liquid Tension Experiment. It's got the over-the-top complex virtuosic music like Dream Theater, minus the winey singing.

[sparrky]

I <3 James LaBrie

[slapnpopbass]

I took me a while to get used to LaBrie, but I think he's great now. His on-stage performance needs to improve. Maybe he should go hang out with Ted Nugent for a week.

[a7x1337]

i loved labrie from the second i played octavarium (my first dt cd)...

[temp100]

They're pretty good. Dream Theater is what happens when you combine monstrous musical talent and creative genious with bitchy vocals. There's tons of bands out there like this.
Musically speaking, and in terms of talent and capability, the whole band is fuckin incredible. But very often they tend to over-do it and it seems like they're trying too hard, like they're just saying "Hey! Look what I can do!". But they are amazing when it comes to writing complex and very technical music. It can just get boring after a while.
I prefer Liquid Tension Experiment. It's got the over-the-top complex virtuosic music like Dream Theater, minus the winey singing.
Plus Tony Levin. :D

[Solaris]

I agree 100% about LaBrie's on stage performances - they're pretty weak. He doesn't put any energy in to it.

[Daucus Karota]

Mayhem's chainsaw gutsfuck is better than anything Dream Theater have ever produced:D

[sparrky]

I took me a while to get used to LaBrie, but I think he's great now. His on-stage performance needs to improve. Maybe he should go hang out with Ted Nugent for a week.
Ted Nugent is a pussy ass liberal bitch.

[aronax0195]

Mayhem's chainsaw gutsfuck is better than anything Dream Theater have ever produced:D

Mayhem sucks, sorry.

[slapnpopbass]

I agree 100% about LaBrie's on stage performances - they're pretty weak. He doesn't put any energy in to it.
It's not the lack of energy, its the lack of manliness.

Ted Nugent is a pussy ass liberal bitch.
Your sarcasm is killing me.

[Daucus Karota]

manliness makes music ugly and sucky

[rerat]

My brother -" How can some of the best musicians I've ever heard come together to form such a shitty band?"

[sparrky]

My brother -" How can some of the best musicians I've ever heard come together to form such a shitty band?"
Your brother is a fucking kyke. sorry to say.

[MiKe]

^I think his brother's opinion is pretty much right on the money. Seperately, everyone in DT is fuckin amazing at what they do. Together, it's like everyone of them is trying to out-shred the others and it all just turns into a fairly boring wankfest.

Plus Tony Levin. :D

Yeah, he fuckin owns Myung.

[emster]

I dl'ed some songs and TRIED to love it, but failed. But I guess they're alright.

[crimsoncitizen]

They're pretty talented musicians, but I find their music to be SUPER boring.

..............Ditto.....................

[slapnpopbass]

Yeah, he fuckin owns Myung.
I agree they are both extremely talented musicians, but i'm going to go with Myung on speed.

[Liquid Tension]

Do the people who call Dream Theater over the top realize that most of their songs employ pnly a few moments of virtuosity and the rest is just very music and emotional songwriting?

[temp100]

Do the people who call Dream Theater over the top realize that most of their songs employ pnly a few moments of virtuosity and the rest is just very music and emotional songwriting?
Yeah, I realise that. That's why I like Dream Theater, even though Petrucci goes over the top at times.

[slapnpopbass]

Yeah, I realise that. That's why I like Dream Theater, even though Petrucci goes over the top at times.

So, would you just kinda sit around and play power chords if you had the ability to play some crazy virtuoso shit?

[tripb19]

Yeah, he fuckin owns Myung.
They're both good at doing completely different things.

[temp100]

So, would you just kinda sit around and play power chords if you had the ability to play some crazy virtuoso shit?
When I say Petrucci sometimes goes over the top, I don't mean he plays crazy virtuoso shit, because there are different types of virtuosos. I mean that I think he sometimes plays for technicality's sake. Nevertheless, it doesn't bother me much, it's not too common and I don't resent him for it. DT does write good music in my eyes and I like DT a fair bit.

Just because I could shred at an unreasonable pace doesn't mean I would. Technicality isn't the be all and end all. But just because you're not playing crazy virtuoso stuff doesn't mean that you have to play power chords - that's a bit of a drastic oversimplification of music.

I'm not saying technicality is bad either - but technicality for the sake of technicality isn't particular great.

[sparrky]

When I say Petrucci sometimes goes over the top, I don't mean he plays crazy virtuoso shit, because there are different types of virtuosos. I mean that I think he sometimes plays for technicality's sake. Nevertheless, it doesn't bother me much, it's not too common and I don't resent him for it. DT does write good music in my eyes and I like DT a fair bit.

Just because I could shred at an unreasonable pace doesn't mean I would. Technicality isn't the be all and end all. But just because you're not playing crazy virtuoso stuff doesn't mean that you have to play power chords - that's a bit of a drastic oversimplification of music.

I'm not saying technicality is bad either - but technicality for the sake of technicality isn't particular great.
I know if i could play like petrucci, I sure as hell would.

[slapnpopbass]

When I say Petrucci sometimes goes over the top, I don't mean he plays crazy virtuoso shit, because there are different types of virtuosos. I mean that I think he sometimes plays for technicality's sake. Nevertheless, it doesn't bother me much, it's not too common and I don't resent him for it. DT does write good music in my eyes and I like DT a fair bit.

Just because I could shred at an unreasonable pace doesn't mean I would. Technicality isn't the be all and end all. But just because you're not playing crazy virtuoso stuff doesn't mean that you have to play power chords - that's a bit of a drastic oversimplification of music.

I'm not saying technicality is bad either - but technicality for the sake of technicality isn't particular great.

Yeah, i dont play full strength 100% of the time. I mean, Petrucci has gotta make some of DT's music playable by others...

[piggyman18]

Dream Theater are an embarrassment to King Crimson, Yes, ELP, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator, and the other bands they supposedly model their music after.

[tripb19]

Take your Gentle Giant crusade and shove it up your ass. I have no fucking clue how you linked DT to GG, and I don't think you know either.

[kledster]

IMO dream theatre is great at playing their instruments.. no one is denying that... but they fail to make music that is full of emotion and atmosphere. they've also never made a song that is honest and personal. on one of their songs they attempted to be melodramatic, honest and personal and it came off as being embarrasing. it sounded like it was made for a 14 year old girl and written by a 14 year old boy. sometimes i get the feeling that some of their songs are merely platforms for them to shred on. playing as many different guitar notes as you can within a solo does not make good music.

[Liquid Tension]

IMO dream theatre is great at playing their instruments.. no one is denying that... but they fail to make music that is full of emotion and atmosphere. they've also never made a song that is honest and personal. on one of their songs they attempted to be melodramatic, honest and personal and it came off as being embarrasing. it sounded like it was made for a 14 year old girl and written by a 14 year old boy. sometimes i get the feeling that some of their songs are merely platforms for them to shred on. playing as many different guitar notes as you can within a solo does not make good music.

You're entitled to your opinion. But I am curious about which song you heard that you thought was embarrasing and melodramatic. I think most of their songs are honest and emotional, just not in the sense that most traditional music is. Thats what prog rock is about, having to look deeper than what we are used to when it comes to music. This applies to the melodies, rhythms, techniques, and the lyrics as well. We can all agree that music that is just showing off skill kind of sucks. Dream Theater has been around for 20 years, they would have faded with the 80s if that was all they were about. It has to be about more, its about the songwriting and musicality!

[sparrky]

IMO dream theatre is great at playing their instruments.. no one is denying that... but they fail to make music that is full of emotion and atmosphere. they've also never made a song that is honest and personal. on one of their songs they attempted to be melodramatic, honest and personal and it came off as being embarrasing. it sounded like it was made for a 14 year old girl and written by a 14 year old boy. sometimes i get the feeling that some of their songs are merely platforms for them to shred on. playing as many different guitar notes as you can within a solo does not make good music.
I don't know about that, i'm listening to Take away my pain right now, and it has no crazy guitar at all, and it is one emotional song.

people who say that really haven't looked at more than a few of DT's songs.

[The_Murphulator]

cough ~space dye vest~ cough
as for petrucci being over the top.., i think you guys are getting confused with yngwie malmsteen. Petrucci has plenty of emotion.... dont believe me? look up the song wishfull thinking and tell me that has no emotion.

[Liquid Tension]

look up the song wishfull thinking and tell me that has no emotion.

Beautiful song, it reminds me of good times and summer since it came out around summer of my senior year of high school i think

[tripb19]

Space Dye Vest is one of their best songs, but it was all Kevin Moore. They have never played it live.