Kill Bill is terrible.

[Shrek]

Ever since the day I heard about it, I have never had any interest in seeing it. All my friends told me about how great it was, but I never cared, because I thought of it as a feminist's version of "Rambo" (which I hate as well). When I finally did watch the first "Kill Bill", it was because a friend was coming over who wanted to watch it; I suffered through it for his sake. I am now completely convinced of how bad this movie is.

First of all, I can't stand how they make the lady out to be so tough in the movie, and how the actors try to make the movie so dramatic and exciting by striking some lame ninja pose. The acting in this movie is almost as bad as in "The Matrix", and the directing is even worse. Like "The Matrix", this movie loves the "one-man-army" approach, and you find yourself pulling your hair out because of the painfully stupid enemy fighters who try to make the scene look convincing by jumping around in the background, with the occasional 3-4 who actually step out of the ring of stupidity to get their throats cut by the impossible-to-kill heroine who seems to be able to take out 40-60 people single handedly, yet gets wasted by some teenager right after. I kept hoping my friend would fall asleep so that I could stop the movie, and return it before he woke up. I was honestly tempted to just throw the movie in the trash to save some poor soul from going through the torture of watching a poorly directed movie.

And what's with the music? In an interview with the director, Quentin Tarantino, there were comments on how the music was what really gave the movie it's "attitude". If he means that the music is what made the movie so bad, then that would be an understatement. Was I the only one who got sick of hearing some Japanese tune fading in and out of the background? It got annoying after while (about 10 seconds).

All in all, I give this movie a 2/10 rating, and only because that annoying asian lady died in the end.

[Timebomb]

I liked it. I'm tired of all these stupid action movies with shitty dialogue, and crappy, muscle head actors. Its about time a female was given a role like this.

[EvaMonkey]

The first Kill Bill was really done as a homage to the cult japanese TV shows/Movies that where around in the 70's, to really get all the in-jokes (army of bad guy's, blood spurts, the snow fight) you have to know a little about them (even if that little is a Bruce Lee movie).

Don't dismiss the film based on the first part, watch the second and see how diffrent it is, it's alot more character based, lot more talking and the death scenes are alot less ilabrate (forgive my spelling)

If you still don't like them, then thats you're own choice :D

I loved Kill Bill Vol.1 and 2, it's up there with Pulp Fiction, Fight Club and The Usual Suspects as one of my favorite films.

KillBill - 4 3/4 stars out of 5

[DaIce72]

The first Kill Bill was really done as a homage to the cult japanese TV shows/Movies that where around in the 70's, to really get all the in-jokes (army of bad guy's, blood spurts, the snow fight) you have to know a little about them (even if that little is a Bruce Lee movie).

Don't dismiss the film based on the first part, watch the second and see how diffrent it is, it's alot more character based, lot more talking and the death scenes are alot less ilabrate (forgive my spelling)

If you still don't like them, then thats you're own choice :D

I loved Kill Bill Vol.1 and 2, it's up there with Pulp Fiction, Fight Club and The Usual Suspects as one of my favorite films.

KillBill - 4 3/4 stars out of 5

That pretty much sums it up right there..,these are great movies and will be one of the crown jewels of my DVD collection.

[WhatTheFluck295]

I'm guessing "You Got Served" got a proud 5 stars from Shrek... :rolleyes:

[Madness]

I liked every aspect of that movie. It was a very reminescentof all the old type of Japanese movies. All the music was awesome, I think they couldn't of made it better. Some people say that the blood is over exaggerated, but that's to homage the animes.

[Citronic27]

First of all, I can't stand how they make the lady out to be so tough in the movie, and how the actors try to make the movie so dramatic and exciting by striking some lame ninja pose. The acting in this movie is almost as bad as in "The Matrix", and the directing is even worse. Like "The Matrix", this movie loves the "one-man-army" approach, and you find yourself pulling your hair out because of the painfully stupid enemy fighters who try to make the scene look convincing by jumping around in the background, with the occasional 3-4 who actually step out of the ring of stupidity to get their throats cut by the impossible-to-kill heroine who seems to be able to take out 40-60 people single handedly, yet gets wasted by some teenager right after. I kept hoping my friend would fall asleep so that I could stop the movie, and return it before he woke up. I was honestly tempted to just throw the movie in the trash to save some poor soul from going through the torture of watching a poorly directed movie.

And what's with the music? In an interview with the director, Quentin Tarantino, there were comments on how the music was what really gave the movie it's "attitude". If he means that the music is what made the movie so bad, then that would be an understatement. Was I the only one who got sick of hearing some Japanese tune fading in and out of the background? It got annoying after while (about 10 seconds).

All in all, I give this movie a 2/10 rating, and only because that annoying asian lady died in the end.It's sounding to me like you're tarring Kill Bill 1 with the same brush as Charlies Angels or Tomb Raider, which is certainly is not. If you wanted to be realistic then this movie was the wrong choice - realism is not what it's about.

Whilst I wouldn't go out and buy the soundtrack I thought that the music complemented the movie well and no, I didn't find it annoying.

[Ninja]

Shrek Im just curious as to what movies you do like? I fully understand people have different tastes in movies its just that all of my friends (who all like different movies) loved Kill Bill so i'm trying to figure what movies you do like. Granted some people on this forum will ridicule you for having a shitty taste in movies but just stear clear of all that and realize your a moron!

[Deltron]

Kill Bill obviously wasn't made for realism. They were great movies and they fit well with all of Quentins movies. You are one of the few who seem to loathe it, if you are looking for a realistic movie then kill bill won't satisfy you. You must not like many movies since you look for realism only.

[Coven66]

kill bill, like all of tarintino's films, including the ones he wrote, requers you to think through the film. like kubrick some people just don't get his artistic vision, what Tarintino is trying to do is bring substance back to films, while still tring to maintain there popcorn and pizza quility's. i think he mastered it in Pulp Fiction, a movie that's very name is a perfect example of how he draws his insperation and love from the films, comics, and books of his youth. i remember reading Pulp comics and i understand fully what he is trying to say.

however, for people like Shrek, they can only see a film from face value. i bet he never once got how Thurman's yellow suit is exacly like that of Bruce Lee's in his last film. or how Hattori Hanzo and Pai Mai were the names of charecters from other old kung fu films. or how Tarintino's use of implosible and over exagerated scenes pay homage and at the same time satires the films of his youth.

i mean by all logic the bride would have died on the wedding chaple floor.

[Wire17]

Kill Bill was great. Sure it was no Pulp Fiction, but i doubt any movie ever will be a Pulp Fiction.

You didnt like how she was so tough. I guess you feel that any real person would have been eaisly killed by the hundreds of people rushing in to fight her. Well you obviously havent seen a single action movie, ever. I cannot think of one in which the movie is some hard to kill bad ass. Of course she wasnt going to die, that would put an abrupt end to the movie, dont ya think.

As for the music, you are the first person i have ever heard that did not like Tarintinos choice in music. His music (next to his dialouge) is probably one of the best things he puts in his films. He has said that 60% of the music he uses, he picks out before he even writes the script! He writes the scene to fit the music. The music just makes the movie so much cooler. Like, for example, take the song playing on the opening credits of Pulp Fiction. How many people can name the song by title, not a lot, even though it was a huge hit when it came out. Nearly anyone that does hear that song immediatly refers to it as "That Pulp Fiction Song!". QTs music makes his movies, and his movies remake the music.

The best part of QTs movies is his encyclopedic knowledge of movies. Due to his time working in a video store, he has seen just about any movie worth seeing, or worth throwing in the trash. It is from this knowledge that his movies get their kicks. He can combine all type of different shots, camera angles and scene becsaue of how many movies he knows. He is considered so incredibly original, but he is just so well knowledged in movies that he can combine different shots from hundreds of movies to make one film that feels completly original.

This movie was a homage to his love for the old kung fu movies. They all had the same kind of concepts. All had one unbelievably hard to kill star, with awsome action sequences and terribly cheezy effects. This movie was a tribute to all the old, B movies of the later days that no longer get the respect that they deserved.

[WhatTheFluck295]

however, for people like Shrek, they can only see a film from face value. i bet he never once got how Thurman's yellow suit is exacly like that of Bruce Lee's in his last film. or how Hattori Hanzo and Pai Mai were the names of charecters from other old kung fu films. or how Tarintino's use of implosible and over exagerated scenes pay homage and at the same time satires the films of his youth.




I had no idea about Uma's yellow suit, or about Hattori Hanzo and Pai Mai, yet I still found both to be captivating.

[Shrek]

I'm not even going to try to respond to each accusation or insult, but I will address the ones that stick out the most.

Coven66, Quentin is trying to bring substance back to films? What substance? The fact that "Kill Bill" promotes revenge? I thought revenge was a sin. You make a point though: I didn't pick up the similarities between the names/clothes in "Kill Bill" and other old kung-fu films. Why? Because I'm not going to waste my time watching something I'm not interested in just so that I can look like a goof by pointing out "OH LOOK! SHE'S WEARING BRUCE LEE'S YELLOW SUIT!".

Deltron, there is a difference between unreal and just plain ridiculous. To see someone do a triple backflip is unreal, but someone being able to take out 40 people single-handedly is simply outrageous. I can think of plenty of movies that are very good, but at the same time can stay within the possibilities of everyday life. Also, I could not see anything tangible that I could take away from "Kill Bill" morally. If I'm going to take and hour and a half out of my life to watch a movie, I'd like to have something to show for it. I can think of a number of movies that have good principles that I can learn from them; maybe you've heard of some of these:

1. Braveheart
2. Pride and Prejudice
3. Lord of the Rings
4. We Were Soldiers
5. Hearts in Atlantis
6. The Green Mile
7. Enemy at the Gates

As you can see, there are plenty of movies out there that can be entertaining as well as morally rewarding. That's what I look for in a movie: Morals; and quite frankly, I didn't see any in "Kill Bill".

About my taste in films, I'm a big fan of the "Hercule Poirot" and "Sherlock Holmes" shows. I watch a lot of old comedies, like the "Pink Panther" shows with Peter Sellers and Herbert Lom, though many of my friends don't seem to find it funny. I'm 16 years old, but I think I have a more -- how do I say this without sounding conceited -- <i>mature</i> taste in movies. I like watching shows like Jane Austen's "Emma", "Pride and Prejudice", "Sense and Sensibility", and other shows like that. In case you didn't notice, I'm not a big fan of one-man-army movies, so shows like "Con Air" and "Die Hard" are not on my top 10 lists, though I found "The Last Samurai" tolerable. All in all, I think most younger people wouldn't share my taste in movies, but adults would probably enjoy them more.

[WhatTheFluck295]

I'm not even going to try to respond to each accusation or insult, but I will address the ones that stick out the most.

Coven66, Quentin is trying to bring substance back to films? What substance? The fact that "Kill Bill" promotes revenge? I thought revenge was a sin. You make a point though: I didn't pick up the similarities between the names/clothes in "Kill Bill" and other old kung-fu films. Why? Because I'm not going to waste my time watching something I'm not interested in just so that I can look like a goof by pointing out "OH LOOK! SHE'S WEARING BRUCE LEE'S YELLOW SUIT!".

Deltron, there is a difference between unreal and just plain ridiculous. To see someone do a triple backflip is unreal, but someone being able to take out 40 people single-handedly is simply outrageous. I can think of plenty of movies that are very good, but at the same time can stay within the possibilities of everyday life. Also, I could not see anything tangible that I could take away from "Kill Bill" morally. If I'm going to take and hour and a half out of my life to watch a movie, I'd like to have something to show for it. I can think of a number of movies that have good principles that I can learn from them; maybe you've heard of some of these:

1. Braveheart
2. Pride and Prejudice
3. Lord of the Rings
4. We Were Soldiers
5. Hearts in Atlantis
6. The Green Mile
7. Enemy at the Gates

As you can see, there are plenty of movies out there that can be entertaining as well as morally rewarding. That's what I look for in a movie: Morals; and quite frankly, I didn't see any in "Kill Bill".

About my taste in films, I'm a big fan of the "Hercule Poirot" and "Sherlock Holmes" shows. I watch a lot of old comedies, like the "Pink Panther" shows with Peter Sellers and Herbert Lom, though many of my friends don't seem to find it funny. I'm 16 years old, but I think I have a more -- how do I say this without sounding conceited -- <i>mature</i> taste in movies. I like watching shows like Jane Austen's "Emma", "Pride and Prejudice", "Sense and Sensibility", and other shows like that. In case you didn't notice, I'm not a big fan of one-man-army movies, so shows like "Con Air" and "Die Hard" are not on my top 10 lists, though I found "The Last Samurai" tolerable. All in all, I think most younger people wouldn't share my taste in movies, but adults would probably enjoy them more.


If you want a movie with high morals that you can "learn something" from, watch The Passion and shut the hell up.

Oh, and Kill Bill got rave reviews from most critics, with MUCH more mature tastes in movies than yours.

You're acting like quite the stick-in-the-mud. Movies aren't made to convey a high moral point or make you feel all good inside. They're made to entertain, and in most cases that means bending the rules of reality. Most people liked The Matrix, Kill Bill, Lord of the Rings, etc. and they bent the laws of physics and whatnot beyond belief. Sorry buddy, you're in the very small minority. Let me guess, you hate horror movies also? :rolleyes:

Perhaps you should read the movie reviews from www.family.org before heading out to theatres :rolleyes:

[Shrek]

I watched "The Passion", and I didn't like it; too Catholic. Sure, I agree there are people with much more mature tastes than mine; who cares? How am I being a stick-in-the-mud? I could say the same thing about you if I found a movie that you didn't like. People are entitled to their own opinions, so what I think of "Kill Bill" shouldn't affect you at all. Why are you being so offensive? I stated my opinion, and am fine with people disagreeing with me, but not with having some loud-mouth media drone mouthing off because I don't have the same tastes as they do.

About the critics, have you ever tried to look for negative reviews for "Kill Bill"? I seriously doubt it. Im guessing you read some one line review in a commercial or on the movie case and assumed the whole world shared that same opinion. Try to look at what some people didn't like about the movie, and don't assume that everyone thought it was a smash hit.

A movie does not have to bend reality to be entertaining. In fact, the reason I prefer the older movies is because they did not have to use computer-enhanced graphics and special effects to make them interesting.

WhatTheFluck295, about what I said regarding morals, you said:


Originally posted by WhatTheFluck295:
Movies aren't made to convey a high moral point or make you feel all good inside.

Again you err. The correct statement would be "Not all movies are meant..." because some movies are, in fact, meant to convey some moral, or principle. There are some that are not, but I am not going to waste my time watching a movie that will not make my hour and a half worth while. If someone else wants to twiddle away 90 minutes of their day watching a movie that is entertaining, but not morally rewarding, then that is up to them. I'm not judging you for your taste in movies; don't you judge mine.

[Coven66]

well god forbid a movie about jesus be "To Catholic" :rolleyes:

i really don't get your logic, older movies are better cus they don't bend logic? it's the same older movies you are reffering to that raws Tarentino's insperation, as well that of M Night Shymalan, and steven speilberg.

also if you want to contribute 2 and a half hours to something, that in the edn will make you a better person. Volenteer at an outreach center. if you want to contribute 2 and a half hours to something entertaining and enjoyable watch a movie.

try to find a bad review of kill bill, i have, and what i find is the bad reviews are by guys who think Jay and Silent Bob is sheer genious and they obviusly just don't get a film like Kill Bill

it's ok that you don't Get Kill Bill, it a diffrent kind of movie goer to even connect the dots of the film. to this day i can still watch something Kubrick and learn something new. the same is true of Pulp Fiction.

[JerkyMyTurky]

If you go into something expecting the worst, you will pick out the worst and exaggerate those things. That is what it looks like happened with you. You hated the movie before you even watched it, it is very hard to change first impression and once those first impressions are made, you tend to look for those things that support your frist impression. I could go into more detail about this common phenomenon, but its all psychology my friend. Next time, dont judge a movie before you even watched it. You biased yourself against the movie before you even watched it, your view is tainted.

[WhatTheFluck295]

I watched "The Passion", and I didn't like it; too Catholic. Sure, I agree there are people with much more mature tastes than mine; who cares? How am I being a stick-in-the-mud? I could say the same thing about you if I found a movie that you didn't like. People are entitled to their own opinions, so what I think of "Kill Bill" shouldn't affect you at all. Why are you being so offensive? I stated my opinion, and am fine with people disagreeing with me, but not with having some loud-mouth media drone mouthing off because I don't have the same tastes as they do.

About the critics, have you ever tried to look for negative reviews for "Kill Bill"? I seriously doubt it. Im guessing you read some one line review in a commercial or on the movie case and assumed the whole world shared that same opinion. Try to look at what some people didn't like about the movie, and don't assume that everyone thought it was a smash hit.

A movie does not have to bend reality to be entertaining. In fact, the reason I prefer the older movies is because they did not have to use computer-enhanced graphics and special effects to make them interesting.

WhatTheFluck295, about what I said regarding morals, you said:



Again you err. The correct state would be "Not all movies are meant..." because some movies are, in fact, meant to convey some moral, or principle. There are some that are not, but I am not going to waste my time watching a movie that will not make my hour and a half worth while. If someone else wants to twiddle away 90 minutes of their day watching a movie that is entertaining, but not morally rewarding, then that is up to them. I'm not judging you for your taste in movies; don't you judge mine.


I have seen negative reviews for Kill Bill. Like someone else stated, they were from half-assed film "critics" and were in the DEEP minority.

I'm not sure whether or not you noticed, but Kill Bill was vrey light on CGI effects. Most of it was wire-work and stund doubles...and wait, just because movies aren't heavy-laden with CGI means they're good? Well, you listed LOTR as a good movie...the whole fucking thing was one big visual effect!

Also, you're not looking at what I'm trying to get at when I say that movies are meant to entertain. Look at the earliest motion pictures. Surely none of them were pushing political or moral issues. Films presenting "moral issues" are NOT popular, obviously. We have Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, most recently Troy, and there's a whole crapload of horror movies about to come flying out of nowhere. Any of those "feel good about myself"-type movies? No. Aside from "Farenheit 911" (nice job ripping someone else off with the title, Michael Moore...ass hole....), there's not one damn movie out now that presents a moral dillema or makes you feel gooey inside after watching it.

Obviously if you're looking for something morally rewarding, movies aren't for you. Work in a soup kitchen. Read for the blind. Change diapers of old people. But piss and moan about movies that are 10 times better than anything you could come up with and expect to get shit from me.


Also, I'm not judging you on what movies you like. I'm judging you on the fact that you're clinically fucking insane if you feel all movies should be more than entertainment.

[Shrek]

I never said all movies should be more than entertainment, I just said that I only want to watch the ones that are. Also, I did not say that CGI made a movie good or bad, I simply said that the older moves didn't have to rely on them. Why do you keep thinking that by "morally rewarding" I mean feel-good and happy? "Schindler's List" wasn't exactly what I would call a "feel-good" movie, but I was still able to get something worthwhile out of it; same thing with "The Pianist".

I don't see why you can't live with the fact that I don't like "Kill Bill". I don't care if I'm with the minority. Does the fact that I am with the minority make me wrong? No; it means I have a different opinion than others do.

WhatTheFluck295, Don't present the "I'd like to see you do better" argument; it's worn-out and immature. I'm not going to discuss this topic anymore, as it's going absolutely nowhere.

I would like to end by offering my gratitude to JerkyMyTurky for making the only good point in reply to my topic. I did have a negative attitude towards the movie before I even watched it, so I'll take your advice and watch it again, without trying to focus too much on the things I dislike about the movie. Expect a post later on about my results.

[Rabid_chiapet]

Ever since the day I heard about it, I have never had any interest in seeing it. All my friends told me about how great it was, but I never cared, because I thought of it as a feminist's version of "Rambo" (which I hate as well). When I finally did watch the first "Kill Bill", it was because a friend was coming over who wanted to watch it; I suffered through it for his sake. I am now completely convinced of how bad this movie is.

First of all, I can't stand how they make the lady out to be so tough in the movie, and how the actors try to make the movie so dramatic and exciting by striking some lame ninja pose. The acting in this movie is almost as bad as in "The Matrix", and the directing is even worse. Like "The Matrix", this movie loves the "one-man-army" approach, and you find yourself pulling your hair out because of the painfully stupid enemy fighters who try to make the scene look convincing by jumping around in the background, with the occasional 3-4 who actually step out of the ring of stupidity to get their throats cut by the impossible-to-kill heroine who seems to be able to take out 40-60 people single handedly, yet gets wasted by some teenager right after. I kept hoping my friend would fall asleep so that I could stop the movie, and return it before he woke up. I was honestly tempted to just throw the movie in the trash to save some poor soul from going through the torture of watching a poorly directed movie.

And what's with the music? In an interview with the director, Quentin Tarantino, there were comments on how the music was what really gave the movie it's "attitude". If he means that the music is what made the movie so bad, then that would be an understatement. Was I the only one who got sick of hearing some Japanese tune fading in and out of the background? It got annoying after while (about 10 seconds).

All in all, I give this movie a 2/10 rating, and only because that annoying asian lady died in the end.


And this opinion from someone named Shrek? Kill Bill was an awesome movie,
It's original and I thought the whole tough chick thing was great!!! It's always good to see a girl kick some serious ass. Maybe you should stick to the animated movies from now on. :p

[poolking]

Don't forget kiddies Kill Bill Volume 1 and 2 is the same film, just cut in half because tarnatino didn't want any cuts being made because the film was too long.

[Wire17]

I just dont get you Shrek. You say you have a mature taste in movies, and prefer the older ones to the newer ones. This movie is a tribute to old movies! He didnt make it for people to go "WOAH! Cool fight!" He made it for people to appreciate some of the older B movies, the ones that never got attention, the ones that you claim to prefer.

And as for your list of movies you like showing that you hae a mature taste, you pretty much just picked out some of the top movies of recent years. Im not saying that you lied about liking them, but a person whos taste in movies doesnt reach further than Soul Plane could have written those titles down and made people think more of him.

[stevib]

Deltron, there is a difference between unreal and just plain ridiculous. To see someone do a triple backflip is unreal, but someone being able to take out 40 people single-handedly is simply outrageous.

In shrek, they become friends with the dragon that tried to kill them! And dragons dont even exist! how fucked is that.

about not liking kill bill, everyone was raving about 2 fast 2 furious.....and i thought it was the massive pile of wank ever, so nobodies opinions correct.. and it was interesting to read your analysis .i liked kill bill, I thought the story was good, and the violent scenes were entertaining. Thats all it takes to impress me because im simple.. :D

[Leonard_Shelby]

First of all I absolutly loved Kill Bill Vol 1 & 2

Second, in my time coming across people who claim to have "mature" tastes, there is really only one movie that can be used to judge their maturity. Anyone who can peer into a movie deeper than face value should agree with my movie choice. And frankly for me this movie did a little more than just entertain me, but that is all I am looking out of a movie.

So what it comes down to Shrek is -- what did you think about Fight Club?

[RolandOfGilead]

I never said all movies should be more than entertainment, I just said that I only want to watch the ones that are. Also, I did not say that CGI made a movie good or bad, I simply said that the older moves didn't have to rely on them. Why do you keep thinking that by "morally rewarding" I mean feel-good and happy? "Schindler's List" wasn't exactly what I would call a "feel-good" movie, but I was still able to get something worthwhile out of it; same thing with "The Pianist".

I don't see why you can't live with the fact that I don't like "Kill Bill". I don't care if I'm with the minority. Does the fact that I am with the minority make me wrong? No; it means I have a different opinion than others do.

WhatTheFluck295, Don't present the "I'd like to see you do better" argument; it's worn-out and immature. I'm not going to discuss this topic anymore, as it's going absolutely nowhere.

I would like to end by offering my gratitude to JerkyMyTurky for making the only good point in reply to my topic. I did have a negative attitude towards the movie before I even watched it, so I'll take your advice and watch it again, without trying to focus too much on the things I dislike about the movie. Expect a post later on about my results.

Okay, shrek, you need to cool it out with this holier-than-thou attitude. Given you're well-spoken (typed?) for a 16-year-old, nonetheless you're proving yourself to be a conceited asshead. Quentin Tarantino is a very talented director with highly original material which, more often than not, contains a myriad of over-your-head humor and innuendo. If you're as sophisticated as you claim to be, I'm sure you didn't miss a beat of his fast-paced, cynical and witty dialogue...and I'm sure you caught the nuances and niches which make his films so cleverly individual. Point: You seem to have an arrogance about you which makes you very closed-minded. (i.e. "how can this movie possibly be intelligent or progressive if it has ninjas?") How about instead of going into the movie with all of this negativity, you try opening up a little and absorbing everything the movie has to offer; script, dialogue, score and all? Also, you may not be very familiar with Tarantino's other films (Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Four Rooms, etc...) but I would imagine if you have, your respect and interest for the movie would be somewhat higher. If you haven't seen those, I suggest seeing all three -- they're incredible, witty films. You might also want to check out some indie films (Pi, Requiem for a Dream, The Cube) and more artistic films (Autofocus, Full Frontal, Magnolia, Ghost World, Koyannisqatsi) if you're looking for a more cultured reperotoire. These are just suggestions - take them how you will.

[fro]

Kill Bill is without a doubt the greatest movie of all time!!!

[MaxPayne]

I havn't seen Kill Bill 2 but i did see the first one and thought it was terrible. What a waste of my time was that movie. Quintons over movies are great though. Jackie Brown is brilliant.

[Emily]

I liked Kill Bill.

My favorite movie though is Coyote Ugly. :)

[Bergs]

OMFG, ok Shrek, you hated Kill Bill, gotcha, I for one liked it. It was very different from the things I usually see. It wasnt as great as Pulp Fiction of Reservoir Dogs by far but it was a decent movie. But your opinion isnt what pisses me off. WTF is wrong with you people!?! He doesnt like a movie so you sit there and flame him? Grow the fuck up!

[JBuryD]

is shrek a girl? maybe that's why she didn't like kill bill. i'm not saying that girls won't like kill bill. but i am saying that it isn't a girly movie. she did say she liked that jane austin crap.

so, shrek, after seeing your list of movies, here are some that i think you would probably enjoy.

love actually
you've got mail
pretty woman
my best friend's wedding
anything with barbara striesand in it
sleepless in seattle
shakspeare in love
two if by sea
while you were sleeping

and any other stupid chick flick that you can name

[S10000]

Kill bill was alright. I don't like all the tarantino worship though. He isn't that good of a film director.

[RolandOfGilead]

Kill bill was alright. I don't like all the tarantino worship though. He isn't that good of a film director.

Shut yo shunt, foo! Q is the HEAT! Don't disrespect, man!

[poolking]

I borrowed a copy off a work colleague the other day and I thought this film was excellent.

He's going to lend me Jackie Brown as well so I get to see all of his films and make a decision on which is my favourite one.

Didn't like Reservoir Dogs much, but it may grow on me. :D

[Momokomo]

I hated kill bill all my friends really liked it so i decided to go rent it if a friend so i took it to my house and watched it omg talking about boring and fucking stupid i hated this movie soo much and i hate the stupid idiots who liked it !!!

[poolking]

I hated kill bill all my friends really liked it so i decided to go rent it if a friend so i took it to my house and watched it omg talking about boring and fucking stupid i hated this movie soo much and i hate the stupid idiots who liked it !!!

Very well thought out argument there. Fancied becoming a politician with those debating skills of yours? :D

[EvaMonkey]

I hated kill bill all my friends really liked it so i decided to go rent it if a friend so i took it to my house and watched it omg talking about boring and fucking stupid i hated this movie soo much and i hate the stupid idiots who liked it !!!

I've seen a few of your posts today and it's just hit me... you sir are a freaking Troll

Ladies and gentlemen... please ignore him, like all mythical creatures if we stop paying attention they will soon die.

[Junoman!!!!!!!!]

Havent seen Kill Bill yet, but it looks awesome. Even my science teacher saw it...and liked it <.<

[dama rei]

If I'm going to take and hour and a half out of my life to watch a movie, I'd like to have something to show for it. I can think of a number of movies that have good principles that I can learn from them; maybe you've heard of some of these:

That's what I look for in a movie: Morals; and quite frankly, I didn't see any in "Kill Bill".

.


You forget Honour......


....butI doubt you'd know much about that

[ssxboarder]

i too felt this way about first one... i still dont think first one deserved as muich aclaim as it should however kill bill 2 was genious. was one of the best movies ive ever seen.. i brought a friend who hadnt seen the first and he loved it. it does pay homage to the 70's rend a japanese movie called lady snowblood.. its what the movie was losly based off.

[JBuryD]

i too felt this way about first one... i still dont think first one deserved as muich aclaim as it should however kill bill 2 was genious. was one of the best movies ive ever seen.. i brought a friend who hadnt seen the first and he loved it. it does pay homage to the 70's rend a japanese movie called lady snowblood.. its what the movie was losly based off.


kill bill vol. 1 and kill bill vol.2 are part of the same movie. it went way too long and tarintino didn't want to have to cut anything out. why do people keep forgetting that. i don't understand how someone could not like volume 1 but love volume 2. they do flow differently, but that is becuase the subject matter in volume 2 isn't as fast as the subject matter in volume 1.

[poolking]

kill bill vol. 1 and kill bill vol.2 are part of the same movie. it went way too long and tarintino didn't want to have to cut anything out. why do people keep forgetting that. i don't understand how someone could not like volume 1 but love volume 2. they do flow differently, but that is becuase the subject matter in volume 2 isn't as fast as the subject matter in volume 1.

I've given up trying to tell people that in fact it is 1 movie, but no one seems to listen.

[ssxboarder]

where in that quote did i suggest it wasnt 1 movie? I just stated that you didnt have to see the first half to get the whole movie..

[mr.pyro]

Dont diss the matrix, its the greatest movie ever, thats all i got to say

[JBuryD]

where in that quote did i suggest it wasnt 1 movie? I just stated that you didnt have to see the first half to get the whole movie..

right here


i too felt this way about first one... i still dont think first one deserved as muich aclaim as it should however kill bill 2 was genious.

[MikeRyu]

I'm afraid to say that I am one of the minority that didn't really enjoy Vol. 1. I agree with what has been said that my views were definately tainted before seeing the film, but still the film failed to change my opinions that I had before seeing it.

I like Tarantino. Pulp Fiction is frickin genius, I love that film. I don't really like Resevoir Dogs much and Jackie Brown depends what mood I'm in.

I like the direction of Kill Bill. I like the music. Lucy Liu was great. The thing that I don't like (and the thing that I knew I wasn't going to before) is Uma herself. I can by into one person taking on 40 adversaries and coming out on top because I love action films and that's some of the best stuff. It was also plain from the quite ridiculous blood spraying that this isn't a film to be taken seriously (on a realistic point of view anyhow). So I wasn't looking for a movie based in real life. Q-man said it best himself when describing that Kill Bill is the kind of film that the characters in Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction would go and see, so it's like a double reality, a fictional world inside of a fictional world. But this movie hinged it's whole success off of one single factor, just like all action movies do. The hero. And I just cannot buy Uma Thurman as this invincible killing machine. She's great in Pulp Fiction, brilliant. But I thought as The Bride she was boring and unbelievable in the fight scenes.

For examples on what the Hell I am taling about look at Bruce lee. The Big Boss is a pile of shit, and so is Fist Of Fury, they're crapfests of the highest order. Cheesy with little or no plot. Hell even Bruce thought the same thing. The reason that they are considered classics is because of one thing, Bruce Lee. He crafted some of the best fight sequences in cinema history, but more importantly he was beliveable whilst fighting off impossible amounts of enemies. He had that intangilble thing (as well as the physical skills) to say "I'm gonna take on everyone of you mutha-hubbards and you don't stand a chance). On the other end of the scale, but equally as amazing, is Jackie Chan. In his films he never destroys room of baddies with single blows, he has a hard time taking on a couple, but again it's his charisma (and awesomly choreographed fight scenes) that makes it work. He has that intangilble thing too, but in a completely different way to Bruce. He has the "I'm backed into a corner and I'm gonna frantically thrash and use everything I can to get out of this situation" style.

I've gone on too long so I'll finish. Basically I thought it was all fine except for Uma. That's just my opinion and is obviously not what most people feel so there is no need to bash me because I already know. I would rather just hear what your opinions are.

[Mr. Ram]

I didnt like kill bill i thought it was average at best you wanna see a real good movie watch Ichi the Killer.

[BuddRDwyer]

the kill bill movie (vol 1+vol2 =1 movie) is Tarantinos best...next to pulp.

[reigenborn]

come on now....are you fogetting Resevior Dogs

[LOJ]

i wouldnt say it was great, but i wouldnt say it sucked. it was just a movie.

[E-DuB06]

I have to disagree i saw it many times and that movie has a great story, very easy to follow and i love the fight scenes, great acting directing and killing

[tommyt]

Yeah man kill bill was kinda shit. At the wedding she gets a total beating and then gets shot in the head, and aint no1 gettin up from a shot in the head. BUT SHE DOES. She then kills like a million people at that club so easily, even if they are 5foot yellow guys all u gotta do isall jump on her at once and kick the shit outta her. The only good bit was the manga part and it was kinda funny when that weird guy with the fucked up laugh comes in 2 fuck her body. Aint seen the 2nd and im guessin it will b just as shit

[WhatTheFluck295]

Yeah man kill bill was kinda shit. At the wedding she gets a total beating and then gets shot in the head, and aint no1 gettin up from a shot in the head. BUT SHE DOES. She then kills like a million people at that club so easily, even if they are 5foot yellow guys all u gotta do isall jump on her at once and kick the shit outta her. The only good bit was the manga part and it was kinda funny when that weird guy with the fucked up laugh comes in 2 fuck her body. Aint seen the 2nd and im guessin it will b just as shit

First of all, there are quite a few people who survive getting shot in the head. Second of all, the movie is a kick-back to all those old Japanese flicks where the bad guys would cheesily attack the good guy one at a time, even they outnumbered him insanely. Third of all, learn to spell and use basic grammar skills before you post, dumbfuck.

[w00tbot47]

Yeah, getting a shot in the head isnt instant death, though if you survive your real lucky(might result in brain damage though). But they were Excelent movies, more so because all the Bruce Lee style movies are awsome, like Jackie Chan before 'The Tuxedo'.

[tommyt]

Fuck off WhatTheFluck295, i cant b fucked 2-spell check on some forum or use grammar. Don’t b comin on here thinkin ur better than any1 just cause u have no life and have nothing better 2 do than try 2 dis people that will kill ur ass for looking at them funny. So go have a wank like u do 5 or 6 times a day in ur mother's basement, get some fresh air for once and suck my hair balls as i dont care what the fuck u think BITCH.

[WhatTheFluck295]

Fuck off WhatTheFluck295, i cant b fucked 2-spell check on some forum or use grammar. Don’t b comin on here thinkin ur better than any1 just cause u have no life and have nothing better 2 do than try 2 dis people that will kill ur ass for looking at them funny. So go have a wank like u do 5 or 6 times a day in ur mother's basement, get some fresh air for once and suck my hair balls as i dont care what the fuck u think BITCH.


Seriously. Just type the "t" and the "o". Really. Two letters.

Also, you did a GREAT job and coming off sounding like a 13 year old jerkoff with nothing better to do than try to show how "hardcore" he is over the internet. :rolleyes:


P.S.
I'd love to suck your "hair balls", but the Vet put me on medicine for that. Clear esophagus for me!

[tommyt]

whatever dude im not 2 bothered what u have 2 say and bitch about, as im only on here for a laugh. I know sayin shit like suck my balls is lame and imature, but i at least xpected a just as childish response from u, since u aggravated me by callin me a dumbfuck in the 1st place. But whateva man, i got better things 2 do

[reigenborn]

Getting shot in the head isnt always instant death....Kennedy lived for 3 hours..and that was a fucking rifle.....Lincoln got shot at point blank range and lived for 7 hours..

[tommyt]

k man, i get ur point. I did see some of that show where it had people that survived stuff like that, some dude had half his brain missing. Just dont get how they survived :eek: i mean u kinda need ur brain 2 work ya know :confused:

[RustyShakleford]

Getting shot in the head isnt always instant death....Kennedy lived for 3 hours..and that was a fucking rifle.....Lincoln got shot at point blank range and lived for 7 hours..


Really? Damn i thought they died on the spot. Shows how much i know. :rolleyes: Wasn't Kennedy shot twice or three times in the head too?

[reigenborn]

Really? Damn i thought they died on the spot. Shows how much i know. :rolleyes: Wasn't Kennedy shot twice or three times in the head too?

more than one shot was fired....but only one made contact with his head

[blue_balls]

Kill Bill was one of that lamest movies i have EVER seen! It was so unrealistic... This one girld got her arm cut off and she was on the ground bleeding for so looong....she would have died of blood loss but she got right back up and started screaming. :mad:

[WhatTheFluck295]

Kill Bill was one of that lamest movies i have EVER seen! It was so unrealistic... This one girld got her arm cut off and she was on the ground bleeding for so looong....she would have died of blood loss but she got right back up and started screaming. :mad:

Do I have to explain this again?


It's SUPPOSED TO BE UNREALISTIC!!! It's a throwback to those old martial arts movies, which were just as unbelievable.

Oh, but I guess you think Lord of the Rings sucked because there's no WAY that hobbits exist! That's SO unrealistic! :rolleyes:

[reigenborn]

[QUOTE=WhatTheFluck295]First of all, there are quite a few people who survive getting shot in the head. Second of all, the movie is a kick-back to all those old Japanese flicks where the bad guys would cheesily attack the good guy one at a time, even they outnumbered him insanely. QUOTE]



This guy knows what hes talking about.....You guys actually think Quentin Tarantino doesnt know that when Oren (sp) cut that guys head off there wouldn;'t be a gigantic fountain of blood spewing for like 3 minutes.....QTs a big fan of those crazy old japanese kung foo flicks....which alot of those elements come from DO YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK !!!

[Prankologist]

Looks like someone doesn't know how to appretiate a good movie :rolleyes: . Kill Bill was a good movie.. actually no.. make that great movie.. because it was different. It was like anime but not in a cartoon. the story was good.. the suspence was great.. It even made me cringe when she was being burried alive. The action was good.. all of it was good.

[drone]

Kill Bill was definatly good and obviously it werent suppose to be realistic, alot of QT's work is not that realistic. I just cant wait for the 3rd Kill Bill movie, duno if it be as much asian style to it but.

[Gilga]V[esh]

Ever since the day I heard about it, I have never had any interest in seeing it. All my friends told me about how great it was, but I never cared, because I thought of it as a feminist's version of "Rambo" (which I hate as well). When I finally did watch the first "Kill Bill", it was because a friend was coming over who wanted to watch it; I suffered through it for his sake. I am now completely convinced of how bad this movie is.

First of all, I can't stand how they make the lady out to be so tough in the movie, and how the actors try to make the movie so dramatic and exciting by striking some lame ninja pose. The acting in this movie is almost as bad as in "The Matrix", and the directing is even worse. Like "The Matrix", this movie loves the "one-man-army" approach, and you find yourself pulling your hair out because of the painfully stupid enemy fighters who try to make the scene look convincing by jumping around in the background, with the occasional 3-4 who actually step out of the ring of stupidity to get their throats cut by the impossible-to-kill heroine who seems to be able to take out 40-60 people single handedly, yet gets wasted by some teenager right after. I kept hoping my friend would fall asleep so that I could stop the movie, and return it before he woke up. I was honestly tempted to just throw the movie in the trash to save some poor soul from going through the torture of watching a poorly directed movie.

And what's with the music? In an interview with the director, Quentin Tarantino, there were comments on how the music was what really gave the movie it's "attitude". If he means that the music is what made the movie so bad, then that would be an understatement. Was I the only one who got sick of hearing some Japanese tune fading in and out of the background? It got annoying after while (about 10 seconds).

All in all, I give this movie a 2/10 rating, and only because that annoying asian lady died in the end.

I agree 100%.

I never wanted to see this movie because I just knew it was going to be a piece of garbage. Unfortunately, my cousin came over one day and brought Kill Bill with her. After the first 5 minutes of the movie I was saying to myself "WTF IS THIS SHIT?" out loud over, and over again. Watching a skinny ass white girl trying to act Japanese was almost too much to bear. And the fight scenes were just stupid in my opinion; especially the fight scene where she fights all of those assassins at the same time. That scene was just retarded to say the least. I mean, if you're going to have someone kill 50 or so people, then please, try and make it a LITTLE realistic. Having 2 guys trying to hit her, while the other 48 form a jerk-off circle is just plain stupid. To tell you the truth I don't know why I hate this movie so much. I know it's not supposed to be realistic... but it just gets to me... the crappy music... the skinny blonde trying to act japanese... the tough, but conveniently gorgeous chicks... the corny fight scenes... Kill Bill is everything that makes hollywood corny in my opinion. They even added some over dramatic anime, yay! Man, i'm so happy I didn't pay any money for this piece of trash.

1/5 stars

[J_Dawg]

Kill Bill was okay, it didn't catch my attention or anything, it was just okay.

[afireinside4848]

i thought it was pretty good looked stupid int he previews.i think they went too far with the blood thing everytime sum1 died the blood shot 20 ft like a hose.the second one suckkkkkkkeeeedddd ass i couldnt even watch it all.

[GhostDog]

i thought the first one was better myself, but kill bill 2 would still make my top 10, or 15... anyways i think both 1 and 2 kicked ass.....

but just me talking, QT ius my favorite directer and kill bill 1 is one of my lifetime favorites.... everyones intellted to thier opions so thinking it was trash is chill... everyone has thier own thang right?

did kill bill 2 count as his 5th film? i heard kill bill 1 was his 4th film... but seence thier a set would it count as just 1?

[Mantra]

I loved kill bill. I thought everything about the movie was great (Especially the music). Now i understand people have different opinions and blah blah blah but i can't stand how shrek seems to think he's better than everyone who liked this movie. Shrek pretty much sits there and brags about how is mature for liking classic movies and how he's "cool" cause hes in the minority.

Here's a impression of shrek.... "ohhhh you are all conformist and can't think for yourself and do want others say is cool so you can feel like you belong. I am mature cause i like pink panther........ i find it so morally rewarding and i am only 16 ohhhhhhhh whoa is me"

Why don't you got read Animal Farm and listen to the Cure you arrogant prick

[GhostDog]

I loved kill bill. I thought everything about the movie was great (Especially the music). Now i understand people have different opinions and blah blah blah but i can't stand how shrek seems to think he's better than everyone who liked this movie. Shrek pretty much sits there and brags about how is mature for liking classic movies and how he's "cool" cause hes in the minority.

Here's a impression of shrek.... "ohhhh you are all conformist and can't think for yourself and do want others say is cool so you can feel like you belong. I am mature cause i like pink panther........ i find it so morally rewarding and i am only 16 ohhhhhhhh whoa is me"

Why don't you got read Animal Farm and listen to the Cure you arrogant prick


buitiful first post :) rep point there heh

I'm not even going to try to respond to each accusation or insult, but I will address the ones that stick out the most.

Coven66, Quentin is trying to bring substance back to films? What substance? The fact that "Kill Bill" promotes revenge? I thought revenge was a sin. You make a point though: I didn't pick up the similarities between the names/clothes in "Kill Bill" and other old kung-fu films. Why? Because I'm not going to waste my time watching something I'm not interested in just so that I can look like a goof by pointing out "OH LOOK! SHE'S WEARING BRUCE LEE'S YELLOW SUIT!".

Deltron, there is a difference between unreal and just plain ridiculous. To see someone do a triple backflip is unreal, but someone being able to take out 40 people single-handedly is simply outrageous. I can think of plenty of movies that are very good, but at the same time can stay within the possibilities of everyday life. Also, I could not see anything tangible that I could take away from "Kill Bill" morally. If I'm going to take and hour and a half out of my life to watch a movie, I'd like to have something to show for it. I can think of a number of movies that have good principles that I can learn from them; maybe you've heard of some of these:

1. Braveheart
2. Pride and Prejudice
3. Lord of the Rings
4. We Were Soldiers
5. Hearts in Atlantis
6. The Green Mile
7. Enemy at the Gates

As you can see, there are plenty of movies out there that can be entertaining as well as morally rewarding. That's what I look for in a movie: Morals; and quite frankly, I didn't see any in "Kill Bill".

About my taste in films, I'm a big fan of the "Hercule Poirot" and "Sherlock Holmes" shows. I watch a lot of old comedies, like the "Pink Panther" shows with Peter Sellers and Herbert Lom, though many of my friends don't seem to find it funny. I'm 16 years old, but I think I have a more -- how do I say this without sounding conceited -- <i>mature</i> taste in movies. I like watching shows like Jane Austen's "Emma", "Pride and Prejudice", "Sense and Sensibility", and other shows like that. In case you didn't notice, I'm not a big fan of one-man-army movies, so shows like "Con Air" and "Die Hard" are not on my top 10 lists, though I found "The Last Samurai" tolerable. All in all, I think most younger people wouldn't share my taste in movies, but adults would probably enjoy them more.


i usally don't say this but to be honest.... you sound more like a fag then mature... cuase really, Kill Bill V1, got the 2nd best reviews so far in 2004.... and those came from people 30 times as mature as you.. and to think of it, you are really immature.. anyone that is showy of themselfs are

EDIT... im not saying this cuase of you don;'t like the movie... but the way you said it, made you sound like a complete fag

[DreamTheater]

i will second that claim to his faggishness

[Jagang]

I've still not had a chance to see this movie, my cousin was supposed to let me borrow it but that never happened. Oh well, eventually I'll see it, when it comes out on HBO or Showtime probably.

[MentalBassPunk]

i liked the first one but i liked the second one even better. i think the second one was funnier in a since but i thought that the first one was great and i think that in most cases tarintino is a great selector of music for his movies. i might have liked the music better than the movie in the first ones case. but the second one was great. when she stepped on the eye.... that was awsome.

[w00tbot47]

Um, when people say they are mature, they most likely aren't. Sounds like boasting. Liking 'Pink Panther' has nothing to do with how mature you are, just your taste in movies. Thats like saying you are good with Kung-fu because you like Kung-fu movies.

[Pro Traceur]

Man, I hate it when people diss movies for being unrealistic, it just makes it more enjoyable to watch, thats like playing Wolfenstien or something and getting mad because you dont die after getting shot once! It makes it a more exciting movie because you dont know whats possible or whats going to happen. And the exagerated blood in my opinion makes that big fight scene against the Crazy 88's and Lucy Liu decapitating that guy funnier and easier to watch. Though I did perfer Vol. 2 because it had more plot and it was longer :)

[therasmus]

If you want a movie with high morals that you can "learn something" from, watch The Passion and shut the hell up.

Oh, and Kill Bill got rave reviews from most critics, with MUCH more mature tastes in movies than yours.

You're acting like quite the stick-in-the-mud. Movies aren't made to convey a high moral point or make you feel all good inside. They're made to entertain, and in most cases that means bending the rules of reality. Most people liked The Matrix, Kill Bill, Lord of the Rings, etc. and they bent the laws of physics and whatnot beyond belief. Sorry buddy, you're in the very small minority. Let me guess, you hate horror movies also? :rolleyes:

Perhaps you should read the movie reviews from www.family.org before heading out to theatres :rolleyes:

I so agree...I mean movies are supposed to be original with a good original story-like the matrix, Kill Bill, LOTR,Gothika and the butterfly effect.For those people who think kill bill sucked, why dont you go and watch bambi or any other crappy disney movies. and one more thing...horror movies own

[EndOfTime]

I Had heard about Kill Bill for a while, but only when it came up as the subject of my coursework did I finally watch it. I Must say that wathcing this and Vol.2 I was entralled with this film. I love the way in which Q can link so many different factors throughout, from references to Bruce lee films carried into Uma's costume in the Large fight scene. Although I have read countless critics Put down this film.

I also Love The music Tarentino uses, that was the major attraction for me in vol.1 and 2. He is definately mixing buisness with pleasure, with the redone version of sonny and char's "Bang-bang" to The" Ironside" themetune used.

Also I dont just see this as a revenge Film. I feel it is an empowering film. where finally Women can shurg off the 'Male Gaze' Ideals as not just objects to be looked at.