360+Wii=PS3

[Wip3ou7xL]

Well, I've had a 360 since day 1 (nov 11th of 05) and I have always liked it alot. The steering wheel is great too... When the Wii came out I was kinda sceptical, and I work for GameStop so it was my duty to find out which system was best. I played the Wii sports games and also some others (Red Steel, Excite Truck) and I wasn't that impressed. Well, 4 days ago I managed to snag a PS3 for myself...

I don't know where to start... The system is great. I downloaded the demo for Motorstorm on the PSN Store and played it for a day or two... and then I realized something yesterday when I had the game paused... there was an option called "Enable Tilt Adjustment"... I was like, "wtf?" and I flipped it to the on setting... low and behold, I was steering in Motorstorm like I was playing Excite Truck on the Wii... except the control is even more precise than the Wii's and of course the graphics in Motorstorm are leaps and bounds ahead of Excite Truck.

I really feel bad for all these people that buy a Wii soley because of the motion sensing controller. The PS3 truely is like having both the 360 and Wii in one console... People say the PS3 is so expensive, but it seems that people who buy a Wii also have a 360 and vise versa... so when you add the prices up of these systems together, you definately paid more for the Wii60 combo than you would have for a PS3. The PS3 is so good I'm considering trading in my 360, although the force feedback wheel and PGR3/Forza2 are basically the only things stopping me from doing so.

I highly urge everyone who is considering buying any of these new systems to try them all out, and especially check out the PS3 with one of the games that takes advantage of the SixAxis control, you WILL be amazed. You don't have to have sub par graphics to have the motion controls, and you don't have to sacrifice the motion controls to have cutting edge visuals. PS3 is the end all in my book for this generation.

[Eksta C]

Your going to be a 40 yr old virgin.

[rand0m]

I don't know what to say?

Well appart from with all the negative attitudes thrown at the Playstation 3 and the over hyping from for the Wii, people who buy a Wii are more likely to be dissapointed and people who buy a PS3 are more likely to be very impressed.

[Molson]

does PS3 have zelda? no? oh okay.

you buy the console for the games.

[hellnback]

i agree with molson. you buy the console for the games. does the ps3 have halo, gears of war? no. each console will have exclusive games that the other console won't have and therefore if you can afford it, get them all. i don't really want a wii, i felt nintendo screwed me over with the gamecube only providing a few games that i really liked, like the resident games, zelda games and of course metroid. everything else i felt was just weak. each console has certain things going for it but i've played the wii and those controllers just felt like modern upgrades to the old powerglove.

[IGneois]

I really feel bad for all these people that buy a Wii soley because of the motion sensing controller.


Well I was going to go "HAHAHA YOU FEEL SORRY FOR ME, LOSERFACE" but I went to qoute this stuff up here, and you feel sorry for people buying it becaues of the motion sensing....but really you shouldn't , they should be called lucky, lucky that they said "Wow, look at that cool controller!!" because they stumbled onto the awesomeness of the Wii and undoubtly will enjoy it to the extreme.

Furthoremore, I love the Wii

Furthoremore, The Wii loves me

Furthermore, Ps3 is fun

Furthermore, I'm not going to buy one however

Furthermore, poop

[xeoset]

The reason people bought the Wii on Motion Sensing alone were right to do so.

The WiiMote is superior than the Sixaxis, all down to the Accelorometers(SP?) and such. Look at "Red Steel" for a start, even the Sixaxis Design gets in the way of that.

[rand0m]

I'm not just waiting for MGS4, Killzone2, MotorStorm, Lair and Unreal Tournament 2007 (which btw has a high chance of been an exclusive).

I'm waiting for the developers to realise the potential of the ps3 and then start making real games.

[xeoset]

I'm waiting for the developers to realise the potential of the ps3 and then start making real games.

Potential?

Ok "Mr. I'm a Game Designer", what Potential would that be?

[rand0m]

jesus xeoset stop been such a anti-sony.

1. Cell Processor, i dont care what you say about it since it is powerful and it can do lots.
2. The Motion sensing controller.
3. Hard drive standard (allows much more in games)
4. Free online Mod kits available.
5. The capabilitys of Linex on the harddrive.

there loads more however i dont know them and you probably dont care.

While your at it, state something the xbox 360 has that the PS3 doesnt (exluding the price tag ...)

[kirtar000]

Potential?

Ok "Mr. I'm a Game Designer", what Potential would that be?

FYI, this is exactly why poeple call you a Fanboy. No offense.

[xeoset]

jesus xeoset stop been such a anti-sony.

1. Cell Processor, i dont care what you say about it since it is powerful and it can do lots.
2. The Motion sensing controller.
3. Hard drive standard (allows much more in games)
4. Free online Mod kits available.
5. The capabilitys of Linex on the harddrive.

there loads more however i dont know them and you probably dont care.

While your at it, state something the xbox 360 has that the PS3 doesnt (exluding the price tag ...)

BINGO! POINT PROVEN!

Hardware isn't Potential, the Potential is how you Utilise it. It's all great saying "Well, Sony has the Emotion Engine, so it has the most Potential to being the greatest thing since sliced bread", but give that to a 3 year old and expect the next Legend of Zelda just isn't going to happen.

You can't say it has Potential, the imagination of people that Design, Code and make the Game are the Potential, the Hardware just makes that Harder. Compare say, Super Mario for the NES/SNES and FFXIII, the Potential that made SM was from 8-Bit(?) Hardware and so far FFXIII is just another RPG.

[usefulidiot316]

I'm not just waiting for MGS4, Killzone2, MotorStorm, Lair and Unreal Tournament 2007 (which btw has a high chance of been an exclusive).


If by exclusive, you mean exclusive the PS3 AND the PC, then yes, not only does it have a large chance of being exclusive, it's all ready been announced it won't be made for any other system. Xbox 360 all ready has Gears of War, based on the same engine, and Tim Sweeney just plain doesn't like the Wii because of its lack of hardware.

jesus xeoset stop been such a anti-sony faggot.

1. Cell Processor, i dont care what you say about it since it is powerful and it can do lots.
2. The Motion sensing controller.
3. Hard drive standard (allows much more in games)
4. Free online Mod kits available.
5. The capabilitys of Linex on the harddrive.

there loads more however i dont know them and you probably dont care.

While your at it, state something the xbox 360 has that the PS3 doesnt (exluding the price tag ...)

The cell processor might look powerful, but really it's just a large 3.2ghz processor that can run 8 simultaneous threads. When it comes to processing stuff like sound and video, specialized hardware works best. That's why the PS3 has the G70 inside of it, rather than just running graphics strait from the Cell. It doesn't make the G70 better than the Cell, it just means it can do certain things better. Unless you're really into playing a game that's all about number crunching or floating point calculations, the Cell really won't do much more at all for games.

The motion sensing controller is pretty handy in games, but it does have its limitations. Because of the motion sensors, there are no vibration functions, which has been in every console since the N64. It can also only sense movement on 6 axis, rather than being able to sense movement and turning and swinging and pitching and whatever else, like the Wii controller. The motion sensing is really only just a replacement for the dual analog sticks.

The Harddrive standard really didn't help the Xbox out much. Sure this is next generation, but if no one used the harddrive last generation, why bother with this generation? Besides, what could it possibly be used for, other than installing games? To be honest, you'd have to be retarded to want to install a game from a 25GB+bluray disc onto a 20GB harddrive just to shorten the length of a load screen.

Free online mod kits are great for any game, I'll give you that.

And Linux really is just the OS that Sony wanted to put on the PS3 to give it more programs to run other than just games, movies and music. It really doesn't help games out much at all. And besides, we're talking about going against the console that's made by the same company that owns 95% of the OS market share. Whatever Sony can do with Linux, Microsoft can or all ready has done with Windows and the Xbox360 OS. And I really doubt Sony is going to be able to compete in the OS field, and maybe even gaming, when Vista is released and games are released that let people on PC play with people on the Xbox360.

[IGneois]

BINGO! POINT PROVEN!

Hardware isn't Potential, the Potential is how you Utilise it. It's all great saying "Well, Sony has the Emotion Engine, so it has the most Potential to being the greatest thing since sliced bread", but give that to a 3 year old and expect the next Legend of Zelda just isn't going to happen.

You can't say it has Potential, the imagination of people that Design, Code and make the Game are the Potential, the Hardware just makes that Harder. Compare say, Super Mario for the NES/SNES and FFXIII, the Potential that made SM was from 8-Bit(?) Hardware and so far FFXIII is just another RPG.


...please..please....stop representing the wii...


love,
me

[Slug Moses]

and I work for GameStop so it was my duty to find out which system was best.
I hope you don't spread negative shit about consoles and games based on your opinions while you work. I hate those pricks in there that think it's their duty to tell you how much what you are buying sucks. I was picking up a Gamecube last year when they were cheap for my cousin as a present and the asshole working there was telling me how much it sucked.

Me: I'd like a Gamecube Metroid bundle pack please.
Duder: That's too bad... yukyukyuk
Me: What's too bad?
Duder: The gamecube sucks, and Metroid is boring it's not as good as Halo
Me: :err:

Don't be that guy, please.

Sure, the PS3 is great if have the money. But, I don't see how you can bash the Wii, especially at that price point and coupled with the fact that you work in a game store and should be promoting the Wii as the great system and bargain it is.
it but i've played the wii and those controllers just felt like modern upgrades to the old powerglove.
That is one of the dumbest things I have heard yet. Have you ever even used the Powerglove? I have, and the Wii is nothing like it.

[Molson]

BINGO! POINT PROVEN!

Hardware isn't Potential, the Potential is how you Utilise it. It's all great saying "Well, Sony has the Emotion Engine, so it has the most Potential to being the greatest thing since sliced bread", but give that to a 3 year old and expect the next Legend of Zelda just isn't going to happen.

You can't say it has Potential, the imagination of people that Design, Code and make the Game are the Potential, the Hardware just makes that Harder. Compare say, Super Mario for the NES/SNES and FFXIII, the Potential that made SM was from 8-Bit(?) Hardware and so far FFXIII is just another RPG.

im going to forward slash agree with xeoset here. i can say it in 100% of the console war threads and always be right: the decision to buy a specific console is entirely based on the games for it. if you base it on hardware, then go buy a computer instead. it can do a lot more with it.

[B-MetalSucks]

While your at it, state something the xbox 360 has that the PS3 doesnt (exluding the price tag ...)

Internal Scaling chip allowing the system to output in the HDtv resolution that matches your t.v.

Why is it that everytime someone says they don't care for a PS3 all you hear in return is "yeah but look at all the shit they crammed in there, your favorite system doesn't have all of that shit." It's such a retarded argument.
1st, I don't WANT or NEED Blu-ray or HD-dvd so why buy a system that pushes a format on me? 360 at least lets you choose to add that on your own later. 2nd, All these fanboy threads start to get really repetitive, Xeo says MS stuff, rand0m and MooCowz respond with Sony stuff, rinse and repeat.

Fucking give it a rest people, all three systems have +'s and -'s.

[Kazimierz]

From what i've seen from all of these "debates" is that Sony wins for graphics, Wii for gameplay, 360 somewhere in between.

I don't have a PS3. I have a Wii and a 360. For the 360, i've really only played Dead Rising and Halo, my other games have stayed in their cases. For Wii i've played Wii Sports and Zelda, and continue to. I've pretty much stopped playing the 360 completely.

I've been considering the PS3, but it offers me absolutely nothing except deeper debt. I really don't care how good my video game characters look, especially if i'm not going to enjoy playing.

The single most important thing for a system is the games, and how much fun you have. You can say this or that about the graphics, but in the end it's irrelevant. The game might look beautiful, but if it's not fun to play, you lose. And, in the end, the most fun i've ever had with games is with Nintendo. Consistently. Smash Brothers? Mario Kart? Zelda? That's why i pick the Wii myself. But to each his own, and stop bitching about these fucking things.

[ThaiTanium22]

Here's my experience with my Playstation 3:

I've had it for ~2 weeks. It's still unopened. Why? The games for it suck.

[rand0m]

Here's my experience with my Playstation 3:

I've had it for ~2 weeks. It's still unopened. Why? The games for it suck.

yeah same, ive still got that playstation 4 in its box and my Nintendo Wii 2 lieing around somewhere ...

If your going to lie at least make it fucking believable ....

[ZeroTigerX]

I played the Wii and put it down a few hours later. It is like an arcade game, it gets old quick.

Why do companies think they can make "Next gen" by putting current generation crap in it. The Wii has slightly better power than the Xbox. And dont use that "Its the games no graphics" argument. Why not have both? When you race in MotorStorm or PGR3 and you go "whooaa!" at aww at the graphics it does make the experience a lot better.

You can't complain about the PS3 having all these expensive parts in it. If you want next gen then you need next gen hardware. Nintendo IMO left out a lot of basic stuff. Only 480p HD, no DVD playback, no online out of the box. The 360 does all to satisfy and the PS3 is a step ahead.

Wii is the great idea on paper.

[ThaiTanium22]

yeah same, ive still got that playstation 4 in its box and my Nintendo Wii 2 lieing around somewhere ...

If your going to lie at least make it fucking believable ....

:banghead: (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qwexs7.jpg)
Click on it jackass.

[¤Tippmann!¤]

^ all hes gonna say is its just the box, but at least I believe you :)

[ItchyItchyFace]

You can say whatever the fuck you want, I'm not paying more than 250 for a videogame system. I'll think I'll get myself a PS2. It has more and better games than the PS3, Wii and Xbox360 combined.

[clutch-monkey]

The single most important thing for a system is the games, and how much fun you have.
this is 100% correct. i have a 360, which is a good all-rounder for me at it's price. i could afford a wii, but i don't really want to spend the extra money; i played it at my friends house, and it was such a laugh. i played it with a big grin the whole time, pure simple fun.
the ps3 is just an extravagance, i already have a good gaming computer...

[IGneois]

im going to forward slash agree with xeoset here. i can say it in 100% of the console war threads and always be right: the decision to buy a specific console is entirely based on the games for it. if you base it on hardware, then go buy a computer instead. it can do a lot more with it.

The potential that a system has..is just that....the SYSTEM has potential. It has the potential to run such potentially great games. A system without potential will make potential game developers not make such potential games. The potential of the wii is the motion sensor, which potentially lets game makers make such potential great games.

But we are all a bunch technical jerks that can't stand not attacking the literal-down to the spek, meaning of a word. So I'm going to kick you ass.

A PS3 sitting on a shelf has 100% potential energy. look at that ....100%, is that even real energy? No, but it has it.

A game designer sits atop a shelf, 100% potential energy. Add this with the PS3's energy and you have 200% of potential energy. But technically you can only have 100%.

So in conclusion, to find the potential of two things...you add them together and divide by the number.

It's half and half for a game to be potentially fantastic, let's go make Gears of War on the atari.


See, I mixed up all the gen consoles, because Random didn't make me mad at all during this thread and actually is pwning stupid people. So I didn't fanboy.


Fuck present sega.

[Kazimierz]

And dont use that "Its the games no graphics" argument. Why not have both? When you race in MotorStorm or PGR3 and you go "whooaa!" at aww at the graphics it does make the experience a lot better.

Realize, also, that if game designers don't have graphics to wow potential customers with, they have to use gameplay.

Graphics are nice, and do add to the experience, but they're hardly necessary. Hell, look at all those classic games out there that people still love. Look at the SNES. The graphics were nothing compared to now, yet many of those games are still more entertaining than some of the garbage coming out now.

That's just my opinion, but i'd much rather trade graphics for better gameplay. And i have. My 360 sits unused, and my Wii gets played.

[IGneois]

Realize, also, that if game designers don't have graphics to wow potential customers with, they have to use gameplay.

Graphics are nice, and do add to the experience, but they're hardly necessary. Hell, look at all those classic games out there that people still love. Look at the SNES. The graphics were nothing compared to now, yet many of those games are still more entertaining than some of the garbage coming out now.

That's just my opinion, but i'd much rather trade graphics for better gameplay. And i have. My 360 sits unused, and my Wii gets played.

Well thats because everyone knows that 2d gaming is better than 3d.



fine the n64..

good point.

[zigamabob]

I'm not just waiting for MGS4, Killzone2, MotorStorm, Lair and Unreal Tournament 2007 (which btw has a high chance of been an exclusive).

I'm waiting for the developers to realise the potential of the ps3 and then start making real games.


Killzone....:ahhh: :ahhh: Talk about an fps that stands no chance to any other fps. Metal gear solid yes..possibly..until it goes to different systems like the old ones did. They will just switch the name and add extras all the 360 will have to do is wait. Motorstorm....Ok? Unreal tournament is mostly played on the pc anyway..I never really liked the game but I know alot of people that do so that will be a good catch for the ps3.

And all I have to say is Halo3, Forza 2. Btw the ps3 motion sensor cant be used effectively like wii, Ive played both. Its NEVER used, you try it out with each game and then you go...I could do better without and there goes that. I dont have wii or ps3 played both, I own 360 xbox live is enough to get it.

[ZeroTigerX]

Excite Truck motion sensor and MotorStorm motion sensor are the same.

But I prefer MotorStorm for the trigger acceleration.

[Molson]

Excite Truck motion sensor and MotorStorm motion sensor are the same.

But I prefer MotorStorm for the trigger acceleration.

and the graphics.

[ZeroTigerX]

and the graphics.

The graphics are intense. Especially when you fall of your motorcycle and get ran over by a truck, in slow motion!

Or when you see some guy go out of control and explode in a ditch in the background.

[rand0m]

And all I have to say is Halo3, Forza 2.

Halo 3 is the only exclusive on the xbox 360 that actually shows any promise, and if it does another Halo 2 ... pfft.

Btw the ps3 motion sensor cant be used effectively like wii, Ive played both. Its NEVER used, you try it out with each game and then you go...I could do better without and there goes that.

that makes total sense ... 'its not working brilliant now ... so it will NEVER work brilliant'

Wait for the programmers to actually realise what to use it for ...

[xeoset]

Wait for the programmers to actually realise what to use it for ...

...Up, Down, Left, Right, Forward, Back.

I'll just say Red Steel Vs. Epeleptic fit in R:FoM (You know, Teh Sh4ke!!1!)

[rand0m]

Yes xeoset ... whatever you say xeoset ...

[xeoset]

Yes xeoset ... whatever you say xeoset ...

Jesus...Fucking...Christ.

You said wait for Potential to be found with the SIXAXIS. It moves in 3 Positive Axis, 3 Negative. There's 6 different way you can move it so it's potential has pretty much run dry (which is why I listed R:FoM, because you can shake the pad, which is about the most amount of moves you can get out of it at once).

Like I said before "Mr. Game Designer". What other Potential does it have? I'd like to be enlightened.

[Wip3ou7xL]

Its called SIXAXIS because it detects movement acceleration in the controller in XYZ, and it detects orientation of the controller in XYZ. So you can tilt or move, thats basically everything the Wiimote does except it doesnt have a miniature super scope 6 on the front to use as an IR pointer.

Red Steel is not impressive, the SIXAXIS would let you tilt your gun to the side while firing if the developers decided to code it. As far as the pointing/aiming and overall quality of Red Steel... well, to put it lightly, its garbage. I couldn't force myself to play Red Steel for more than a half hour.

[rand0m]

holy shit a controller only has 10 buttons and two sticks that point in different direction!!! HOW THE FUCK CAN THAT WORK ...

It's not what is actually does, its how it uses what is does

[xeoset]

well, to put it lightly, its garbage. I couldn't force myself to play Red Steel for more than a half hour.

Red Steels awesome. I love the way it removes all Textures from Multiplayer and you have to follow that White Pixel they call a Crosshair. /sarcasm

I hated Red Steel, it was the biggest waste of 2 hours of my life. What's worse my friend actually suggested I go by it after watching him play a Level (you start out in a street, have to climb a few boxes and then his sword glitched and wouldn't move from his body).

[rand0m]

yay we all agree that Red Steel is ... well ... pants ...

[kirtar000]

I was gonna buy Red Steel on release, but they were out. Now I'm glad they were :)

[zigamabob]

Halo 3 is the only exclusive on the xbox 360 that actually shows any promise, and if it does another Halo 2 ... pfft.



that makes total sense ... 'its not working brilliant now ... so it will NEVER work brilliant'

Wait for the programmers to actually realise what to use it for ...

Right..halo3 is the ONLY exclusive game that shows any promise after I just finished mentioning Forza racing..yah. Lets see xbox has better online and will always unless ps3 decides to revamp its entire online system..which it wont. The new gran turismo is going to suck, where 80% of cars and tracks have to be unlocked by purchasing them..hah..yah its gonna sell. Even if it was 100% unlockable..forza will still destroy it. I only mentioned those two because those are the only I can think of even though there will be more. Red steel is fun though not for long periods of time. PS3 will eventually pick up because ps2 had a huge fanbase but its nothing special, nothing like the "amazing super computer" everyone talked about. Its going to be a decent system that was over hyped and overrated. Wii is going to sell because of its low cost and fun factor, xbox is going to continue to do well because of the online experience and increase in exclusive games.

[xeoset]

new gran turismo is going to suck, where 80% of cars and tracks have to be unlocked by purchasing them..hah..yah its gonna sell. Even if it was 100% unlockable..forza will still destroy it.


They Cancelled it didn't they? GT:HD?

[kirtar000]

I dont like racing games, i think they are boring. But thats just me.

I'm gonna eventually pick up a 360 for GoW games and Halo3 (halo mostly for my brother). But Halo3 better be good, as I was not as pleased with Halo2 as I was with Halo1. Thankfully, what I've seen so far looks pretty good.

Oh and im gonna get project 8 on it too ince its online etc

[rand0m]

Right..halo3 is the ONLY exclusive game that shows any promise after I just finished mentioning Forza racing..yah. Lets see xbox has better online and will always unless ps3 decides to revamp its entire online system..which it wont. The new gran turismo is going to suck, where 80% of cars and tracks have to be unlocked by purchasing them..hah..yah its gonna sell. Even if it was 100% unlockable..forza will still destroy it. I only mentioned those two because those are the only I can think of even though there will be more. Red steel is fun though not for long periods of time. PS3 will eventually pick up because ps2 had a huge fanbase but its nothing special, nothing like the "amazing super computer" everyone talked about. Its going to be a decent system that was over hyped and overrated. Wii is going to sell because of its low cost and fun factor, xbox is going to continue to do well because of the online experience and increase in exclusive games.

Woow you proved nothing ...

[eadgbe]

You can say whatever the fuck you want, I'm not paying more than 250 for a videogame system. I'll think I'll get myself a PS2. It has more and better games than the PS3, Wii and Xbox360 combined.

hear hear...

[HBK4L]

i wanna buy a ps3..but ima wait like 2 years to save up some $$$. Ill play my 360 until then..but im never trading it in.