Trump Files $10 Million Lawsuit Against Palm Beach Over U.S. Flag

[eieio]

Donald Trump Files $10 Million Lawsuit Against Palm Beach After Being Cited for Large Flag

Monday, December 25, 2006

AP

PALM BEACH, Florida — Donald Trump is suing this oceanside town for $10 million after being cited for flying an oversized U.S. flag over his Mar-a-Lago Club.

Attorneys for the club filed a complaint Thursday, saying that flying the flag is a constitutionally protected expression of free speech — and that the large flag is a proper match for the size of the real-estate mogul's patriotism.

Town officials said Trump violated zoning codes when the lavish club hoisted a 15-by-25-foot flag atop an 80-foot pole on Oct. 3. The citation was for having a flagpole taller than 42 feet, for not obtaining a building permit and for not getting permission from the landmarks board.

"A smaller flag and pole on Mar-A-Lago's property would be lost given its massive size, look silly instead of make a statement, and most importantly would fail to appropriately express the magnitude of Donald J. Trump's and the Club's members' patriotism," the lawsuit says.

Palm Beach Cites Donald Trump for Putting Up Giant American Flag
A phone message left at the mayor and town council's office was not returned Saturday.

In the lawsuit, Trump's attorneys accuse the town of selectively enforcing its ordinances. Other locations in the town display flags that violate statutes, the lawsuit alleges.

All damages awarded to the club would be donated to veterans of the war in Iraq, the lawsuit said.

Trump had until Nov. 27 to apply for approvals or else he faced a Dec. 21 hearing that could have resulted in fines costing $250 per day. It was unclear Saturday whether that meeting took place.

"The day you need a permit to put up the American flag, that will be a sad day for this country," Trump said in October.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238626,00.html

The Donald is a Patriot! He deserves to be able to post an American Flag on his building in a tasteful manner. He knows buildings, real estate and he knows what people like. THAT'S HOW HE BECAME RICH!

I hope he wins!

Oh and Rosie is a stupid, no-talent, bitch, c--t.

[yb-yellow]

Me too. I hope he takes that money out of those unpatriotic Palm Beach people.

[Mr. Heskey]

I agree with what he said, but suing for 10 mil is kinda out of hand...:uhoh:

[Poser Park]

Donold may be rich, but he isn't exempt from the rules of the community. If he doesn't like the rule, he can move.


Patriotism isn't always about waving around a big flag, you know.

[drexel]

All damages awarded to the club would be donated to veterans of the war in Iraq, the lawsuit said.

this bothers me. $10 million?

trump could donate $1 billion to the veterans and not be phased in the slightest.

[Nocturnal]

Donold may be rich, but he isn't exempt from the rules of the community. If he doesn't like the rule, he can move.


Sounds like he is just being a dick to me. He wants a big flag to make his property stand out and is using the "Patriot" label to get his way.

You guys should be ashamed of rooting him on for whoring out the flag.

Patriotism isn't always about waving around a big flag, you know.

That's all that matters these days. It's much easier to wear a flag lapel pin than to be a real American.

[Sketcher]

That's all that matters these days. It's much easier to wear a flag lapel pin than to be a real American.

So your assuming that those who wave the flag don't act like real Americans?

[Ace Hippie]

This isn't about being patriotic or not patriotic, it's just another example of the fun you can have when you live in a community with strict zoning regulations and/or a homeowner's association. It's not just flags, you can barely do anything with your own house without approval, lest you run afoul of your neighbors.

[drexel]

So your assuming that those who wave the flag don't act like real Americans?

just because you wave a flag or wear a flag lapel, it doesn't make you any more american or patriotic than one who doesn't.

[Nocturnal]

So your assuming that those who wave the flag don't act like real Americans?

Nope (not assuming that), but I don't think that flying a flag is enough to assume somebody is a good citizen. Seems like such a small test that anyone can easily pass..."of course I'm a patriot, I'm wearing a flag pin!".

[YouEnjoyMyself]

So your assuming that those who wave the flag don't act like real Americans?

Well it seems many who wear the flag are the first to question another's status as an American at the drop of any sort of dissent by the American in question (not the flag wearing person).

Do you think dissent is a good reason to have one's loyalty or patriotism questioned in our country?

The flag lapel seems to be a front to show right off the bat that someone is patriotic, and that they want to prove it.

[whocares]

He seems to be whoring attention lately...

[Sketcher]

Nope (not assuming that), but I don't think that flying a flag is enough to assume somebody is a good citizen. Seems like such a small test that anyone can easily pass..."of course I'm a patriot, I'm wearing a flag pin!".

Patriotism: The love of one's own country. People who fly the flag usually do it because they love their country, don't they? I know that's the reason why I have a flag flying outside my house.

People wear band t-shirts because they love that band. People wear team caps because they love that team. And people fly flags because they love that country. What's the problem?

[Nocturnal]

Patriotism: The love of one's own country. People who fly the flag usually do it because they love their country, don't they? I know that's the reason why I have a flag flying outside my house.

People wear band t-shirts because they love that band. People wear team caps because they love that team. And people fly flags because they love that country. What's the problem?

It seems to be a fairly recent thing. There is too much pressure now to prove yourself as a loyal/patriotic american by wearing/flying the flag. That's why every politician has them on their lapel 24/7. Now there is an implication that if you aren't sporting the flag you don't like America. I don't like that.

[Sketcher]

It seems to be a fairly recent thing. There is too much pressure now to prove yourself as a loyal/patriotic american by wearing/flying the flag. That's why every politician has them on their lapel 24/7. Now there is an implication that if you aren't sporting the flag you don't like America. I don't like that.

It's not that it's recent, it has always gained more popularity during war. It's not that those people don't love their country during peace time, it's just that they feel they need to send a good message to the troops by flying the flag. After 9/11, New York streets were lined with flags, not because they all of a sudden started loving the country, but because it sent a message to our attackers.

As for the topic at hand, Trump wants to fly a flag, so what? Why does anyone care? You point out that non-flag flyer's are being harassed by the flag flying ones, but what about these circumstances where the roles are reversed?

[Nocturnal]

It's not that it's recent, it has always gained more popularity during war. It's not that those people don't love their country during peace time, it's just that they feel they need to send a good message to the troops by flying the flag. After 9/11, New York streets were lined with flags, not because they all of a sudden started loving the country, but because it sent a message to our attackers.

As for the topic at hand, Trump wants to fly a flag, so what? Why does anyone care? You point out that non-flag flyer's are being harassed by the flag flying ones, but what about these circumstances where the roles are reversed?

This is not about what Trump is flying, but rather how he is flying it (42 foot tall flagpole) He picked a size that broke the rules. Despite that people are stating that it's ok to break these rules, because it's Old Glory. That doesn't make any sense.

[whocares]

Yeah, he broke a law... it may be a stupid law, yes... but it's still the law. Sadly they have laws over there that limit sizes to things that you can fly around your house.

[Sketcher]

This is not about what Trump is flying, but rather how he is flying it (42 foot tall flagpole) He picked a size that broke the rules. Despite that people are stating that it's ok to break these rules, because it's Old Glory. That doesn't make any sense.

Well, until I'm given justification for that rule, I'm going to side with Trump. I see no problem with it.

[GlutSow]

I could understand waving a massive flag with a crude picture on it, but the American flag? Come on, this is just petty bullshit. I know that most zoning laws are laughable. In my town there are always disputes on whether certain zoning laws are necessary, and I always hear about it because my father is on the planning board. But restricting the size of a flagpole? I don't get it. Could someone please explain to me why an 80 foot flag pole on your own property should be illegal? And I honestly don't care for the answer "the law is the law."

[whocares]

Maybe they have zoning laws because they block vision or pollute the view... dunno...

[david_slupper]

Maybe they have zoning laws because they block vision or pollute the view... dunno...

So you're saying the American flag pollutes the view?

Fuck it's his damn property, he should be able to put up whatever he wants there, as long as it isn't offensive to other people. If you think he American flag is offensive, the a big fuck you to you sir.

[Ace Hippie]

People who think this is somehow outrageously unpatriotic, as I said before, are missing the point. Is this stupid? Maybe, none of us knows what the flag actually looks like and whether or not it might actually be a nuisance fo some sort (if it blocks someone else's view, for example, they'll lose money in terms of property value).

The real issue is whether the zoning regulations and homeowners' associations and the like should have this power. To some extent they are necessary - American flag or not, I could see how having people putting up whatever the hell they want could not only be annoying but also screw up property values, views and so on.

The fact that the particular item in question is an American flag is irrelevant, really. The laws would apply regardless of what it was.

[drexel]

So you're saying the American flag pollutes the view?

it would pollute my view if my neighbor had a huge ass flag flapping around, though i am sure this isnt the case, i imagine this property is immense, so it isnt like there are neighbors.

Fuck it's his damn property, he should be able to put up whatever he wants there, as long as it isn't offensive to other people.

i am sure this is a popular view on this topic for a number of "patriots", but i wonder if it extends to other areas, like, say, marijuana, or any other of a number of issues where property owners dont have the right to do what they please, even if it is just on their property.

not pinning you down to any particular belief, but you were the one who made the comment that made me think of that, so i quoted you.

[kledster]

if i was as rich as trump i wouldn't worry about suing anyone, i would buy my own island and go live on it with a few people i love and care about, and that's that. i would hire some farmers to grow crops for me, or i would grow it myself and i would have all of my needs and goods flown in on my own private plane every few weeks.

[J.T.]

this bothers me. $10 million?

trump could donate $1 billion to the veterans and not be phased in the slightest.

Trump didn't get an assload of money by donating. He's a ruthless motherfucker just like bill gates.

[bergshadow]

though i am sure this isnt the case, i imagine this property is immense, so it isnt like there are neighbors.
I once stayed at a very nice estate house in New Jersey, neighboring Malcolm Forbes' place. You couldn't see it, or any other house - low hills with trees surrounded the pond and the horse pasture etc.

Sunrise Sunday morning Forbes fired up a bunch of hot air balloons - really noisy things, with the burners firing - and came sailing over the hills and pond about 150 feet up, shouting and screaming from balloon to balloon (so they could hear each other over the burners).

It can take a bit of work for a rich guy to abuse his neighbors, but a lot of them are willing to go that extra mile. Huge flags on tall poles set up in the sunset horizon, packs of balloons over the back yard, bright lights and ostentatious displays on the lakeshore, whatever it takes.

I think that's the reason for all those silly-sounding "covenants" and "associations" rich people live under - they know their neighbor's potential.

[eieio]

Here you can see a photo of the offending flag and pole.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/12/23/s2b_TRUMP_1223.html

Here, The Donald threatens to up the ante! :D

Trump wants to increase flag lawsuit to $25 million

South Florida Sun-Sentinel
FORT LAUDERDALE - Donald Trump's patriotic indignation has heated to a hard boil.

Now, he wants to boost the pain he hopes to inflict on the town fathers of Palm Beach to $25 million.

Just short of spitting over his speaker phone Wednesday, Trump said he intends to amend the lawsuit he filed against the town last week in a well-publicized controversy about flying an enormous American flag atop a hurricane-proof flag pole over his Mar-a-Lago home and private social club.

Instead of $10 million, The Donald now wants the town to pay him $25 million.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/16339323.htm

[Nocturnal]

Not to mention that suing over "pain" for this is one of the biggest piles of shit I've ever heard.

Trump is a douchebag. If he doesn't like the rule he should try to get it changed, or move. He is using the Flag to get his way, and it's bullshit.

[Spike Lee]

Anyone else think are flag should have Underdog on it? That would be sweet.

[drexel]

Trump didn't get an assload of money by donating. He's a ruthless motherfucker just like bill gates.

ruthless motherfucker patriot :rolleyes:

i understand that you dont get rich by giving your money away, but for a man who has billions to offer such a pittance when he could do so much more is a bit dodgy.

i am sure the 10 million would help a ton, but i liken it to a guy who has $100 in his pocket, but can only spare a few bucks to loan to his buddy.

[Nocturnal]

ruthless motherfucker patriot :rolleyes:

i understand that you dont get rich by giving your money away, but for a man who has billions to offer such a pittance when he could do so much more is a bit dodgy.

i am sure the 10 million would help a ton, but i liken it to a guy who has $100 in his pocket, but can only spare a few bucks to loan to his buddy.

The hypothetical 10 million isn't even his, it would be coming from his bullshit pain and suffering lawsuit.

[eieio]

Not to mention that suing over "pain" for this is one of the biggest piles of shit I've ever heard.

Trump is a douchebag. If he doesn't like the rule he should try to get it changed, or move. He is using the Flag to get his way, and it's bullshit.

He is using the Flag to get his way

And "getting his way" means he can fly his flag.

There's a symmetry to that.

He is flying his flag so he can fly his flag.

The fact that you find it to be bullshit means you don't like Trump because he flies his flag or because he flies his flag you don't like Trump.

It also suggests you are a Commie.

But it's hard to determine the exact strain of your anti-Americanism.

Trump IS trying to get the law changed. He is challenging it in court by filing a LAW SUIT.

But you already knew that.

[Poser Park]

And "getting his way" means he can fly his flag.

There's a symmetry to that.

He is flying his flag so he can fly his flag.

The fact that you find it to be bullshit means you don't like Trump because he flies his flag or because he flies his flag you don't like Trump.

It also suggests you are a Commie.

But it's hard to determine the exact strain of your anti-Americanism.

Trump IS trying to get the law changed. He is challenging it in court by filing a LAW SUIT.

But you already knew that.

LMAO Who uses Commie as an insult anymore? You'd be much suited for the '50's.

This has nothing to do about being 'anti-American' or a 'commie', it's that Trump broke the law of the community & now he's in a bitchy mood because he has to follow the rules.

[Chewy]

Trump IS trying to get the law changed. He is challenging it in court by filing a LAW SUIT. I think Trump is just trying to get some press (http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_6/)

[Nocturnal]

Trump IS trying to get the law changed. He is challenging it in court by filing a LAW SUIT.

But you already knew that.


That's not how the legal system works chief. You don't go to court and sue for pain and suffering to contest the legality of a local zoning ordinance.

I think you people would support breaking any law if it was painted with the picture of the flag. I guess not everyone is as PC as you.

[eieio]

I think Trump is just trying to get some press (http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_6/)

:D I thought about that too! :D But, just like GWB's decision to invade Iraq there are MULTIPLE reasons behind this lawful action. Not just one.

That's not how the legal system works chief. You don't go to court and sue for pain and suffering to contest the legality of a local zoning ordinance.

I think you people would support breaking any law if it was painted with the picture of the flag. I guess not everyone is as PC as you.

LMAO Who uses Commie as an insult anymore? You'd be much suited for the '50's.

This has nothing to do about being 'anti-American' or a 'commie', it's that Trump broke the law of the community & now he's in a bitchy mood because he has to follow the rules.

Do we have ANY doubt that the law would be changed if Trump wins the suit? And THAT would be the easiest and best way to do it. Don't get angry, get money.

And the expression, being a "Commie" is au current and appropriate to use anytime someone wants everyone to submit their personal will to the State.

[Chewy]

:D I thought about that too! :D But, just like GWB's decision to invade Iraq there are MULTIPLE reasons behind this lawful action. Not just one.Just for calibration sakes you are not claiming that Bush invading Iraq was somehow a legal action. ;)

[Nocturnal]

Do we have ANY doubt that the law would be changed if Trump wins the suit? And THAT would be the easiest and best way to do it. Don't get angry, get money.

And the expression, being a "Commie" is au current and appropriate to use anytime someone wants everyone to submit their personal will to the State.

Don't get angry, get money. Spoken like a true personal responsibility conservative. You would fit right in with the most cynical of race card players. "I demand millions of dollars in compensation for not being served at denny's".

Your use of the word "commie" is wholey inaccurate, and demonstrates your lack of knowledge of the basics of politics. Authoritarianism (which this is not a case of) is neither intrisnic nor required to have a communistic society.


You don't get special treatment just because you want to fly the flag. End of discussion.

[eieio]

Don't get angry, get money. Spoken like a true personal responsibility conservative. You would fit right in with the most cynical of race card players. "I demand millions of dollars in compensation for not being served at denny's".

Denny's just messed up once too many times and they had no way to make up for it after the fact. Whereas Donald might drop the suit if Palm Beach does the right thing. The Donald uses money differently than non-Donalds. This $$ would go to help Veterans.

Your use of the word "commie" is wholey inaccurate, and demonstrates your lack of knowledge of the basics of politics. Authoritarianism (which this is not a case of) is neither intrisnic nor required to have a communistic society.

You may fashion yourself as some rube goldberg elitist hybrid pseudo tyrant man for the people, but it's just high falutin Commie0nism to the rest of us. But you can call yourself a pink nippled Sally for all I care.

You don't get special treatment just because you want to fly the flag. End of discussion.

Wait til we see Palm Beach get TRUMPED. THAT will be the end of the discussion and the beginning of the :D .

[(_8(I)]

You may fashion yourself as some rube goldberg elitist hybrid pseudo tyrant man for the people, but it's just high falutin Commie0nism to the rest of us. But you can call yourself a pink nippled Sally for all I care.


It's like trying to understand a Fraiser episode.:confuzed:

[bergshadow]

And the expression, being a "Commie" is au current and appropriate to use anytime someone wants everyone to submit their personal will to the State. Or as the commies used to say: Sieg Heil!

[Knave]

Fuck the morons that actually think they need to wave the god damn flag to show their patriotism. No one gives a shit if you love America, the troops aren't going to get a morale boost from your lame flag waving, and it's uneccessary. I'm a patriot but i've never flown a flag and I don't think I ever will. "But my flag has to be really big to show people I love the country!" No you can donate a billion bucks to some american aid. Fuck retards.

^^^ And the Nazis were fascist to the person above me. Which is what America is indeed slipping into. Having flags shown all aorund the country is one of the main characteristics of a fascist nation.

[GlutSow]

Fuck the morons that actually think they need to wave the god damn flag to show their patriotism. No one gives a shit if you love America, the troops aren't going to get a morale boost from your lame flag waving, and it's uneccessary. I'm a patriot but i've never flown a flag and I don't think I ever will. "But my flag has to be really big to show people I love the country!" No you can donate a billion bucks to some american aid. Fuck retards.

^^^ And the Nazis were fascist to the person above me. Which is what America is indeed slipping into. Having flags shown all aorund the country is one of the main characteristics of a fascist nation.

I don't know if you read the article or not, but you are right. Flying the flag probably won't boost their morale. But donating the damages from the lawsuit to veterans of the Iraq war might help out a little. And that is exactly what he is going to do.

[Nocturnal]

I don't know if you read the article or not, but you are right. Flying the flag probably won't boost their morale. But donating the damages from the lawsuit to veterans of the Iraq war might help out a little. And that is exactly what he is going to do.

He should donate some of his own money then, not the money from a bullshit lawsuit.

In any case, he isn't going to win this, and his promise is pretty empty. (even if he won we don't know if he will follow through)



Attention Ebaums, I'm going to donate a billion dollars to the troops, just as soon as I win my lawsuit against trump for his being a giant douche. I'm a super patriot, where are my kudos? :rollseyes

[Chewy]

He should donate some of his own money then, not the money from a bullshit lawsuit.

Yeah its ratings grab Trump likes headlines and weak mind fools to adore him.

[eieio]

He should donate some of his own money then, not the money from a bullshit lawsuit.

In any case, he isn't going to win this, and his promise is pretty empty. (even if he won we don't know if he will follow through)

Attention Ebaums, I'm going to donate a billion dollars to the troops, just as soon as I win my lawsuit against trump for his being a giant douche. I'm a super patriot, where are my kudos? :rollseyes

Oh, so you are going to come down on the wonderful tradition of charity events sponsored by celebrities that have generated BILLIONS of dollars for a good cause?

You think it's bull crap to simply lend one's efforts or smarts toward generating money for a cause rather than using their own funds? :eek:

Jerry Lewis has organized a Labor Day telethon to help raise money for the Muscular Dystrophy Association (MDA) since 1966. His efforts have helped raise approximately US$2 billion. [3] Lewis is one of few fundraisers who brings in more than is actually pledged. This is because many donors as they write a check add extra money to help "Jerry's Kids" given his generosity and no-pressure appeal. [citation needed] In 1977, he was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize and in 1985, he received a US Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service. In September 2005 Lewis was slated to receive the Governor's Award from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, honoring his long-running telethons.

The telethons are typically star-studded: among Lewis's co-hosts through the years were Ed McMahon and Casey Kasem. A frequent performer in the 1970s and 1980s was the late Frank Sinatra, who famously surprised Lewis by reuniting him with Dean Martin on the telethon in 1976.

On his 40th Labor Day telethon in 2005, Lewis added Salvation Army fundraising (for Hurricane Katrina) to his usual MDA fundraising, though he also encouraged viewers to give to the American Red Cross. He has also hosted the 1987 and 1991 editions of the French Muscular Dystrophy Téléthon, where he is known for his work against this disease.


If you had the skill and smarts to generate the kind of financial wealth such as Trump or Lewis have, you wouldn't say these things.

No, I think someone is letting their bitterness show.

:bigwink:

[Nocturnal]

Oh, so you are going to come down on the wonderful tradition of charity events sponsored by celebrities that have generated BILLIONS of dollars for a good cause?

You think it's bull crap to simply lend one's efforts or smarts toward generating money for a cause rather than using their own funds? :eek:



A. WTF does your post have to do with anything? (SOP for you though)
B. I didn't know you supported frivilous lawsuits. Good to know.


If you had the skill and smarts to generate the kind of financial wealth such as Trump or Lewis have, you wouldn't say these things.

No, I think someone is letting their bitterness show.

Trump never impressed me much, he isn't that good of a businessman. A few lucky strikes, and everything else he has done is easy. Write me a check for 10 million and I bet I could do better.

Why would I be bitter? My financial future is looking pretty rosy.

[jacl<a$$]

this bothers me. $10 million?

trump could donate $1 billion to the veterans and not be phased in the slightest.

I doubt that considering Forbes ranked him 83rd on the wealthiest list, only having 2.7 billion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/business/yourmoney/23trump.html?pagewanted=7&ei=5088&en=f6a68ab339142801&ex=1287720000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[Nocturnal]

I doubt that considering Forbes ranked him 83rd on the wealthiest list, only having 2.7 billion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/business/yourmoney/23trump.html?pagewanted=7&ei=5088&en=f6a68ab339142801&ex=1287720000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Wouldn't that leave him with 1.7 billion? ;)

[Systemofa Noun]

Trump never impressed me much, he isn't that good of a businessman. A few lucky strikes, and everything else he has done is easy. Write me a check for 10 million and I bet I could do better.
Trump is an excellent businessman and luck had nothing to do with it. He knows how to make sound business deals. He has worked hard to get where he is. Who are you to say he's isn't good of a businessman? That's laughable. He wouldn't have gotten to where he is if he was a lousy businessman. Oh and you could do better if someone gives you a check for $10 mil? Better how? That's quite an arrogant statement.

Why would I be bitter? My financial future is looking pretty rosy.
Bittter, maybe...Arrogant, definately.

[Nocturnal]

Trump is an excellent businessman and luck had nothing to do with it. He knows how to make sound business deals. He has worked hard to get where he is. Who are you to say he's isn't good of a businessman? That's laughable. He wouldn't have gotten to where he is if he was a lousy businessman. Oh and you could do better if someone gives you a check for $10 mil? Better how? That's quite an arrogant statement.


Bittter, maybe...Arrogant, definately.

I'm sorry. I just don't feel the need to slobber all over some guy's knob because he has more money that I do. Money doesn't impress me all that much. I'm also fairly certain that the sudden love for Trump that this forum is displaying is only because he wants a giant flag on his building. What a joke. :lol:

Yup, I could do better. At his level of investment it doesn't take all that much skill.

As much as you rail against the concept of "elite" people, you sure are quick to claim that others are better than you. How odd. Tell me, is everyone out there with more money than you "better" than yourself?

[Systemofa Noun]

What I like about Trump is that he worked hard for his money. I've seen others like those in Hollywood, in politics, in sports, and in music not work hard. Many of them are overpaid moronic elitists. Unfortunately Trump hob nobs with a lot of these people. Also, this has nothing to do with the issue surrounding the flag.
Oh and if you can do better and it doesn't take much skill, how come you haven't already?

[GotheriK]

Personally, I think he's nuts for building an 85-foot flagpole, but I say he should sue Palm Beach for so much money that it collapses. I hate regulatory communities.

The only thing he may have done wrong is create a structure so high it might interfere with air traffic. I'm not sure how high a structure has to be to require anti-collision lighting and such, and what kind of permits are involved, but as far as I'm concerned, he's done nothing wrong besides that.





Tell me, is everyone out there with more money than you "better" than yourself?
Certainly from a business standpoint. ;)




Donold may be rich, but he isn't exempt from the rules of the community. If he doesn't like the rule, he can move.

This statement draws an eerie comparison to the extreme-right-wing philosophy of "If ya'll don't like America, ya'll best geeeeet out! Yeehaw!".

Tell me, do you think that anyone who doesn't like the laws or administration of America should just "Geeet Out" instead of trying to fix it?

[Nocturnal]

What I like about Trump is that he worked hard for his money. I've seen others like those in Hollywood, in politics, in sports, and in music not work hard. Many of them are overpaid moronic elitists. Unfortunately Trump hob nobs with a lot of these people. Also, this has nothing to do with the issue surrounding the flag.
Oh and if you can do better and it doesn't take much skill, how come you haven't already?

Well, I suppose he worked hard for it, but he is hardly self made. He was fortunate enough to be born into success, special schools, Wharton etc.

He started his career doing what?.... ding ding, in his father's real estate business. So yeah, I guess starting out in a big family business and making your own career in the same industry is ok. I am impressed by self made people, not those who were born into it.

You will have to forgive my own lack of billions. I come from a blue collar background and I'm still pretty young. My first priority is to advance my career and pay off my huge student loan bills (courtesy of a wonderful douchebag with a R- behind his name)

You know, for somebody who bitches about "elitists" so much, you sure do sound like a snob.