Official NFL Offseason Thread

[Wu-tang]

The Giants cut Emmons, Arrington, Morton, and Luke Petitgout...What the fuck?!?!?!? We only gave Arrington one year in a season that every single fucking player on our team gets hurt. At least give him another shot...Fuck. Morton/Emmons both fucking suck so fuck them. Luke was having one of his best seasons this year until he got injured. FFS, atleast try to trade him. He was a good LT. If you're going to cut a LT fucking cut Bob Whitfield...Damn it. :banghead: At least we know that Reese has balls.


Edit: Whitfield is retiring.

[poopchow]

The Giants cut Emmons, Arrington, Morton, and Luke Petitgout...What the fuck?!?!?!? We only gave Arrington one year in a season that every single fucking player on our team gets hurt. At least give him another shot...Fuck. Morton/Emmons both fucking suck so fuck them. Luke was having one of his best seasons this year until he got injured. FFS, atleast try to trade him. He was a good LT. If you're going to cut a LT fucking cut Bob Whitfield...Damn it. :banghead: At least we know that Reese has balls.


Edit: Whitfield is retiring.

Petitgout i thought was pretty good, and emmons i didnt think was that bad (at least in madden). Arrington... haha.. poor guy, his career is close to done as an impact player. The achilles injury is really going to fuck him up, and its a shame... that signing really made the giants look like the skins for a second though.

This is a good offseason for the skins and we havent even done anything yet.

[BigMac]

Carson Palmer = Pro Bowl MVP

[Wu-tang]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AimLjypOVPpjFk2_uOtF87g5nYcB?slug=ap-chargers-schottenheimerfired&prov=ap&type=lgns

...Crazy fucking monday. Marty was fired after going 14-2, after they had already lost Cam Cameron and Wade Phillips.

[patriotwarrior7]

Very odd situation we've got here It is gonna be really tough to get a full coaching staff in place. It is too late for Carroll, for san diego to make a run at him?

[YankeesSuck]

No more Marty Ball I'm sad lol.

[Travmire]

I predict Nick Saban will go to the Chargers. Just wait. You'll see.

[TheWhiteRecluse]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AimLjypOVPpjFk2_uOtF87g5nYcB?slug=ap-chargers-schottenheimerfired&prov=ap&type=lgns

...Crazy fucking monday. Marty was fired after going 14-2, after they had already lost Cam Cameron and Wade Phillips.

Wow, unless they get their shit together i dont see them making the playoffs even with all the talent they have. It would be a shame to see LT not go to the playoffs. Marty did fine, they just lost to the pats in a strange turn of events... it was just bad luck.

[Wu-tang]

“It's crazy,” cornerback Quentin Jammer said. “You go 14-2 and you get fired. It's wild. Now you go into the offseason not knowing what's going on. I think I speak for a lot of guys on the team when I say we really, really liked Marty.”

“This has to be something that they had been thinking about, because I don't think you just up and fire a guy if you don't have a backup plan,” Tomlinson said. “I've been talking to guys and it's tough right now. It's a tremendous blow for our team."

Bad move by the Chargers...

[poopchow]

Yea bad move by the chargers.

Even though marty has been followed by this bad luck, almost none of it was of his own fault. Having a player get an INT, then fumbling it? The guy plays on defense, what do you want marty to do? Make the defense practice hanging onto the ball?
Then when byner fumbled before inside the 5, what could marty do? Byner was a proven back and you would want byner to have the ball.

Sure, he can be blamed for a lot of things, and he did not give his team the best of chances to win, but at least he did give them a chance, and then his players blew it completely.

[Zooch]

That one douchebag on ESPN with the small head is talking. I want to punch his little nose in

[Slid3r]

That one douchebag on ESPN with the small head is talking. I want to punch his little nose in

Sean Salisbury could crush Mark Clayton.

[Number 12]

I doubt that my Cowboys will do much next year. Having to adjust to the new coaches will take a season or two.

[MusicIsDead]

Raaaiiidduuhhhs 9-7

[kingofallmedia]

Raaaiiidduuhhhs 9-7

ya, except the 9-7 is the cards!

[TheWhiteRecluse]

ya, except the 9-7 is the cards!

I think the card will go 9-7 because of lienart/James + a new coach. I dont know much about the Raiders so i wont say anything about them

[Wu-tang]

I think the card will go 9-7 because of lienart/James + a new coach. I dont know much about the Raiders so i wont say anything about them

The Cards are cursed though.

[TheWhiteRecluse]

The Cards are cursed though.

Really? How so?

[Wu-tang]

Since 1975 when they were the St Louis Cards, they've been to the playoffs twice. One of those years was the strike year though.

POSTED 12:03 p.m. EST; UPDATED 12:14 p.m. EST, February 14, 2007

RUMORS SPREAD THAT CARROLL-TO-CHARGERS IS A DONE DEAL

There is increasing talk in league circles regarding suspicions that the San Diego Chargers already have a secret deal in place with USC coach Pete Carroll.

Folks are pointing to some of the same facts we outlined on Monday night, after word broke that Marty Schottenheimer had been fired. Some think that the most convincing proof was/is USC assistant Steve Sarkisian's abrupt about-face with the Raiders, followed days later by the decision of his former Trojan colleague, Lane Kiffin, to take the job.

Why else, the theory goes, would Kiffin take a job that Sarkisian didn't want unless they both knew that Carroll wasn't long for the USC gig, and that Sarkisian, not Kiffin, had been hand-picked to replace him?

Others are pointing to the fact that the first guy to be interviewed is Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, who has no head-coaching experience but who helps the Chargers satisfy the Rooney Rule quickly, in the event that the Pete Carroll cat gets out of the bag prematurely and none of the minority candidates agree to sit for the job. (See Detroit Lions and Steve Mariucci.)

We're also told that there is worry among the incoming class of USC recruits regarding the possibility that Carroll is leaving. But Pete has opted not to even address the situation publicly.

If he were not going to be the San Diego coach, he could easily say so. The fact that he has said nothing at all speaks volumes, in our view. Especially since he now has a couple dozen nervous high school seniors who signed papers seven days ago under the assumption that the head coach would be sticking around for at least the next month.

Stay tuned. We predict that the Chargers will go through the motions with several candidates, and that Carroll will then swoop in out of the blue as the guy.

If that happens, look for Pat Kirwan to soon follow him -- and for G.M. A.J. Smith to definitely get the boot after the draft.

http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[patriotwarrior7]

I wondered today,how do they figure that Norv Turner is a better solution to Schottenheimer for San Diego?My problem with Turner is he's not a great head coach when it comes to game day. He's as a offensive coordinator no doubt on this matter. I wondered why not Ron Rivera, or Mike Singletary(rex ryan too) a shot as HC.

[Fraud]

Pittsburgh Steelers fresh start w00t XD

GO PITTSBURGH!!!!!!!

[MusicIsDead]

Moss to the packers for a 2nd in 2007 and a pick in 2008. You heard it here first.

[NYG 5]

reese now has to demand eli to renegotiate his contract, and perhaps bring in david carr or kyle boller since theyre never gonna play lorenzen.

for a draft i really like this paul pazoulzy or whatever his name is from penn state. the guys a beast, though idk if we need linebackers as much as we need defensive line/ backs, cuz pierce, blackburn, and short would be pretty damn good.

i say demps will have a solid year after recooperating his blown acl from 2005. or he might never be the same ala sehorn

[BigMac]

Ratbirds cut Jamal Lewis and Bengals cut the crafty veteran Brian Simmons. God dammit.

[KakUMei]

Browns might nab Simmons. I'd like that.

We might also pick up Nate Clements.

[BennyP]

Browns might nab Simmons. I'd like that.

We might also pick up Nate Clements.

The Titans will get Nate Clements, book it. We have 40+ million in cap room(best in the NFL) and since Ms. Pacman got into trouble again, we will definitely snatch him. No one will offer him a better deal than what we can. We might even grab London Fletcher while we are at it. Then we will draft Dwayne Jarrett or Robert Meachem and have Vince a go-to wideout. We also need a safety to put beside Chris Hope. Some minor touchups on the offensive line and add a defensice end and we are 10-6 with money to spend!


Also the Giants will end up with Willis Mcgahee, no doubt and Moss stays in Oak since Al Davis wont trade him for less than a first rounder.

[poopchow]

The Titans will get Nate Clements, book it. We have 40+ million in cap room(best in the NFL) and since Ms. Pacman got into trouble again, we will definitely snatch him. No one will offer him a better deal than what we can. We might even grab London Fletcher while we are at it.




How silly you are.

You may get clements, but you wont get fletcher, count on that (maybe). Fletcher will be a skin and clements is a target, although his price tag may be something we cant afford, but the skins always know how to entice someone.

[BennyP]

How silly you are.

You may get clements, but you wont get fletcher, count on that (maybe). Fletcher will be a skin and clements is a target, although his price tag may be something we cant afford, but the skins always know how to entice someone.

The thing is that The Deadskins have nothing going for them and no one wants to play for them. The game has changed too much for Gibbs and he needs to stik to Nascar, but yeah I havent heard anything about the Titans going after Fletcher but I would think that we would make an offer. The Skins will probably make huge offers to big names in which they dont know how to use their talents...such as Santana "dont call me Randy" Moss or Antwaan "I was decent with the Steelers" Randel El. Until they eliminate the salary cap the Deadskins will continue to be at the bottom of the NFC East.

[poopchow]

The thing is that The Deadskins have nothing going for them and no one wants to play for them. The game has changed too much for Gibbs and he needs to stik to Nascar, but yeah I havent heard anything about the Titans going after Fletcher but I would think that we would make an offer. The Skins will probably make huge offers to big names in which they dont know how to use their talents...such as Santana "dont call me Randy" Moss or Antwaan "I was decent with the Steelers" Randel El. Until they eliminate the salary cap the Deadskins will continue to be at the bottom of the NFC East.

I know your team of interest isnt the skins, but there is a lot you dont know.

1st of all, santana resurrected the skins 2 years ago and was had the most yards in a season for a skins WR in 05. Last year, he dealt with hammy problems, a new offense, and a QB with a shoulder problem and no arm.

2nd,Antwaan has been used fairly well and probably attempted around 5-6 passes this year, and returned a punt for a TD. He is being used better and getting more involved, maybe not the money he is getting paid, but he is being used.

3rd, the offense will be great next year barring any major injuries. Clinton Portis was injured the entire year then had to go out on IR 1/2 way through. Now we discovered how great an RB betts can be as he got over 1,000 yards when starting only 6-7 games. Saunders will be in his 2nd season with the offense and campbell is the man. Had 10-6 TD-INT ratio, not bad for a rookie.

The offense was clicking in the end of the season

The defense blew. Ill give you that, but we cant get any worse. We have a high draft pick and we are now 10M below the cap because brunell restructured. MLB, DL, CB are our needs and we will improve on all of those fronts one way or another. Hopefully injuries wont be as bountiful this year, but you never know the the NFL.

Watch out for the skins in 07. A weak NFC conference and a weaker NFCE (TO still in, tiki gone, coughlin still there, strahan said he wanted to be on the skins as well as gains adams, so there goes your argument, parcells gone..) so its ripe for the pickings for the skins.

[BennyP]

I know your team of interest isnt the skins, but there is a lot you dont know.

1st of all, santana resurrected the skins 2 years ago and was had the most yards in a season for a skins WR in 05. Last year, he dealt with hammy problems, a new offense, and a QB with a shoulder problem and no arm.

2nd,Antwaan has been used fairly well and probably attempted around 5-6 passes this year, and returned a punt for a TD. He is being used better and getting more involved, maybe not the money he is getting paid, but he is being used.

3rd, the offense will be great next year barring any major injuries. Clinton Portis was injured the entire year then had to go out on IR 1/2 way through. Now we discovered how great an RB betts can be as he got over 1,000 yards when starting only 6-7 games. Saunders will be in his 2nd season with the offense and campbell is the man. Had 10-6 TD-INT ratio, not bad for a rookie.

The offense was clicking in the end of the season

The defense blew. Ill give you that, but we cant get any worse. We have a high draft pick and we are now 10M below the cap because brunell restructured. MLB, DL, CB are our needs and we will improve on all of those fronts one way or another. Hopefully injuries wont be as bountiful this year, but you never know the the NFL.

Watch out for the skins in 07. A weak NFC conference and a weaker NFCE (TO still in, tiki gone, coughlin still there, strahan said he wanted to be on the skins as well as gains adams, so there goes your argument, parcells gone..) so its ripe for the pickings for the skins.


They should have never gotten rid of Champ Bailey, it was a terrible move.

Also They should trade Portis as it is, Ladell Betts proved the last half of the season that he is the real deal and he will earn every penny of his 5 year deal.

[poopchow]

They should have never gotten rid of Champ Bailey, it was a terrible move.

Also They should trade Portis as it is, Ladell Betts proved the last half of the season that he is the real deal and he will earn every penny of his 5 year deal.

Well we cant part with portis for a couple of reasons. First, he is clinton portis. 2nd, he blocks amazingly well. 3rd, he is much faster. 4th, he doesnt fumble nearly as much. 5th, better moves. 6th, better nack for scoring TDs. 7th, big play possibilty present with portis.

CP and Ladell will have a good 1-2 punch this year, and if you look at the teams in the conference championships, all had dual RB systems. Now, i would rather have cp get 90% of the carries, but if it means we win more games i wouldnt mind seeing 70-30 or 60-40.

Also, duckett is probably gone so we need depth at the one place we dont need to worry about.

CP is the heart of the team and to give him away would be foolish. Also, we had to get rid of champ. He was an FA and wanted out anyway. Also, if you look at the few games CP was in with that struggling skins offense, he had something like 700 total yards and 7 TDs. Not bad for a guy who had a separated shoulder.

[Wu-tang]

reese now has to demand eli to renegotiate his contract, and perhaps bring in david carr or kyle boller since theyre never gonna play lorenzen.

for a draft i really like this paul pazoulzy or whatever his name is from penn state. the guys a beast, though idk if we need linebackers as much as we need defensive line/ backs, cuz pierce, blackburn, and short would be pretty damn good.

i say demps will have a solid year after recooperating his blown acl from 2005. or he might never be the same ala sehorn

Nah, Blackburn and Short are good back-ups, and that's it. We'll probably draft a LB in the first round. Willis/Timmons/Poz.

Anyway, today's been a big day. Joey Porter, Joe Horn, Brian Simmons have been cut along with some others.

[Nick is cool]

I know your team of interest isnt the skins, but there is a lot you dont know.

1st of all, santana resurrected the skins 2 years ago and was had the most yards in a season for a skins WR in 05. Last year, he dealt with hammy problems, a new offense, and a QB with a shoulder problem and no arm.

2nd,Antwaan has been used fairly well and probably attempted around 5-6 passes this year, and returned a punt for a TD. He is being used better and getting more involved, maybe not the money he is getting paid, but he is being used.

3rd, the offense will be great next year barring any major injuries. Clinton Portis was injured the entire year then had to go out on IR 1/2 way through. Now we discovered how great an RB betts can be as he got over 1,000 yards when starting only 6-7 games. Saunders will be in his 2nd season with the offense and campbell is the man. Had 10-6 TD-INT ratio, not bad for a rookie.

The offense was clicking in the end of the season

The defense blew. Ill give you that, but we cant get any worse. We have a high draft pick and we are now 10M below the cap because brunell restructured. MLB, DL, CB are our needs and we will improve on all of those fronts one way or another. Hopefully injuries wont be as bountiful this year, but you never know the the NFL.

Watch out for the skins in 07. A weak NFC conference and a weaker NFCE (TO still in, tiki gone, coughlin still there, strahan said he wanted to be on the skins as well as gains adams, so there goes your argument, parcells gone..) so its ripe for the pickings for the skins.




I dont see how the skins offense is even close to being 'great', they do have 2 good backs but they have a inexperienced qb who hasnt done anything yet. And the nfc is really weak but the nfc east isnt, eagles are obviously good, cowboys are good (i dont see how having TO makes them bad) and the giants did lose their whole offense but they will prolly get a good back to replace him.

[poopchow]

I dont see how the skins offense is even close to being 'great', they do have 2 good backs but they have a inexperienced qb who hasnt done anything yet. And the nfc is really weak but the nfc east isnt, eagles are obviously good, cowboys are good (i dont see how having TO makes them bad) and the giants did lose their whole offense but they will prolly get a good back to replace him.

TO being there is just a little jab at him, but it in reality, he does tend to screw things up.

NFCE is weaker than people think because often times they play at their opponents level, or make these big skids. Look at dallas and NYG in the 2nd half the season the last two years? The skins are hit or miss, mostly miss, the eagles are the most consistent. NYG and the skins havent used their talent properly, dallas finds way to lose. The nfce has the potential of being the beast in the NFL, but they havent played like it. The NFCE is probably the best division in the nfc right by the NFCS, but like you said the nfc as a whole is weak. So im not going to ride their our own nuts yet.

That being said, i honestly think that the skins offense will be sick next year, and of course time will tell, but i think campbell will be a very good starter next year. He needs to be much more accurate, but he is a big strong QB with a big arm and with WRs that can get behind DBs. Romo was unproven last year, given, he was in the league for a couple years already, but you never know. I dont think JC will be amazing, but he will run the offense well and he will be better than what eli has been so far.


EDIT: skins sign smoot and looking hard at fletcher.

we are down an LG because dockery got hutchinson money, 7-49mil (outrageous), so we are in a war with the cowboys for L. Davis

[Wu-tang]

Romo was unproven last year, given, he was in the league for a couple years already, but you never know. I dont think JC will be amazing, but he will run the offense well and he will be better than what eli has been so far.


24 touchdowns and a playoff appearance in both of his first 2 starting years? And Romo still sucks.

[poopchow]

24 touchdowns and a playoff appearance in both of his first 2 starting years? And Romo still sucks.

Those stats twist his "legacy" in the league so much. Everyone knows his problems in which he doesnt seem to be a great leader (coughlin is partly to blame), has quite a few picks, low completion % and passer rating, has fizzled out each year so far, is 0-2 in the playoffs, and still makes a lot of bad decisions.

Anyway, like i said, fletcher is now a skin along with smoot!! fletcher 5 years 25 mil. He will be 37 when he is done, which is in his twilight, but he has been getting better over time and we need a plug in the middle of the field. only 10 mil garaunteed

Defense shaping up. Now we need work on the d-line

it also looks that clements is going to SF

[Devastation]

Today's transactions (AP):

ATLANTA FALCONS—Released LB Edgerton Hartwell and LB Ike Reese.
BUFFALO BILLS—Agreed to terms with G Jason Whittle on a one-year contract.
CAROLINA PANTHERS—Re-signed LB Na’il Diggs to a one-year contract.
DETROIT LIONS—Traded CB Dre’ Bly and a 2007 sixth-round pick to the Denver Broncos for RB Tatum Bell, OT George Foster and a 2007 fifth-round pick. Acquired a 2007 fifth-round draft pick from St. Louis for DE James Hall.
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS—Named Rod Perry defensive backfield coach.
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS—Signed OT Tony Pashos to a five-year contract.
MIAMI DOLPHINS—Released DE Kevin Carter and G Jeno James.
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS—Released RB Corey Dillon.
NEW YORK GIANTS—Signed C Shaun O’Hara to a five-year contract.
NEW YORK JETS—Released QB Patrick Ramsey.
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES—Signed DE Juqua Thomas to a five-year contract.
PITTSBURGH STEELERS—Re-signed RB Najeh Davenport to a two-year contract.
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS—Re-signed CB Phillip Buchanon.
TENNESSEE TITANS—Agreed to terms with DT Rien Long, OT Seth Wand and LB LeVar Woods.
WASHINGTON REDSKINS—Re-signed S Vernon Fox and signed G Randy Thomas and FB Mike Sellers to multiyear contract extensions.

[poopchow]

Here are some updated ones.

Derrick Dockery, 7 years 49 mil to Buffalo
Clements - 8 yr 80 million to SF
London fletcher- 5 year 25 million

Smoot should be signing any minute now

[Wu-tang]

Those stats twist his "legacy" in the league so much. Everyone knows his problems in which he doesnt seem to be a great leader (coughlin is partly to blame), has quite a few picks, low completion % and passer rating, has fizzled out each year so far, is 0-2 in the playoffs, and still makes a lot of bad decisions.


He "seems" not to be a great leader, but he has led us back in a lot of games when the going was rough, so he definitely plays like a leader. (2005 vs denver, @philly 2006) And Tiki has always been the offensive leader, but towards the end of the season he said he let Eli do the pre-game speech and Tiki said Eli was fired up and surprised them. So I believe he will be a good leader even if he looks dopey and relaxed most of the time.

And he did well with what he had this year. After Amani got hurt everything went to shit. You can't blame a qb for not playing well when Tim Carter is one of his starting receivers.

Next year Amani will be back, hopefully the coaches will put Sinorice into the gameplan, and then maybe a receiver in the draft, and then we'll be set.

[poopchow]

He "seems" not to be a great leader, but he has led us back in a lot of games when the going was rough, so he definitely plays like a leader. (2005 vs denver, @philly 2006) And Tiki has always been the offensive leader, but towards the end of the season he said he let Eli do the pre-game speech and Tiki said Eli was fired up and surprised them. So I believe he will be a good leader even if he looks dopey and relaxed most of the time.

And he did well with what he had this year. After Amani got hurt everything went to shit. You can't blame a qb for not playing well when Tim Carter is one of his starting receivers.

Next year Amani will be back, hopefully the coaches will put Sinorice into the gameplan, and then maybe a receiver in the draft, and then we'll be set.

I can blame him when he has Plaxico, Shockey and Tiki. Everything also went to shit in 05 too. I dont think eli has what it takes.

And dont use carter as an excuse. Mark brunell had david patten (torn up knee 1/2 way through 05) and guys like james thrash start as the #2 WR for all of 2005, and brunell had a pro bowl type year and won games. Dont give me this crap about having WR problem.

[Devastation]

I think Eli has what it takes to be a great quarterback in the Sunday league, he just hasn't shown it yet.

He has farted more potential than most people have combined. What he needs to do now is show that potential in important games.

He could easily be the next...Peyton. But of course, he can also be the next Tim Couch.

[Wu-tang]

I can blame him when he has Plaxico, Shockey and Tiki. Everything also went to shit in 05 too. I dont think eli has what it takes.

And dont use carter as an excuse. Mark brunell had david patten (torn up knee 1/2 way through 05) and guys like james thrash start as the #2 WR for all of 2005, and brunell had a pro bowl type year and won games. Dont give me this crap about having WR problem.
Plaxico takes plays off, Shockey gets double teamed, and Tiki's a RB.

Uh...Eli played better than Brunell in 05. More yards, TDs, completions, wins.

[gatorpatric0]

Jacksonville will go 10-6 having to play the Super Bowl Champs and the up-and-coming Tennesse Titans twice each.

They will miss the playoffs by one spot.

[atreyu_2020]

49ers pick up Clements. Clements and Harris is a deadly duo. Niners are going to be dangerous next season. They are one wide receiver and DT away from being a contender.

[poopchow]

Plaxico takes plays off, Shockey gets double teamed, and Tiki's a RB.

Uh...Eli played better than Brunell in 05. More yards, TDs, completions, wins.

Brunell 2005
85.9 262 454 57.7 3050 190.6 6.7 23 10
Rt cpl att % yrd ypg ypa Td Int

Eli 2005
75.9 294 557 52.8 3762 235.1 6.8 24 17
Rt cpl att % yrd ypg ypa TD INT


-10 in Rating
+32 completions
+ 103 Attemps
so he completed 32 for 103 in his extra attempts = 31%
+45ypg (threw it 6.5 more times a game)
+.1 yards per attempt... even with toomer and the weapons
+ about 700 yards
1 More TD!!!!
....7 more INTs
-4.9 completion %


So out of 5 categories where its easy to tell who did better
(rtg, ypa, cp%, TD, INT) other ones are different because having more attempts doesnt really mean much, and this benefits eli because of his shitty %.

Brunell had 3 and eli has 2, except in the cats eli wins, ypa, td, he wins 2 of those by 1 and .1.

Brunell wins by 10 in rtg, has 7 less INTs, and has 5% better completion. He easily wins those.

Attempts eli wins, but is that even a good thing?
Completion eli "wins", but as i said, in his extra attempts, he only completed 31% of them.
YPG is due in part to eli, yet brunell they still have same ypa, so the only reason for the difference is due to # of attempts.
6.7(ypa)x6.5 (more attempts)= about 44
Same goes for actual yardage.

in ypc eli had about 12.7
to brunells
11.64

Only a difference of 1. So this shows that the only reasons for the difference in yards (the only thing eli wins in), is because of sheer number of throws. Brunell was clearly better

Yet, that was when brunell only had santana, yet eli had plax, amani,shockey, and tiki.
btw, tiki is a great receiving back

[Devastation]

Jacksonville will go 10-6 having to play the Super Bowl Champs and the up-and-coming Tennesse Titans twice each.

They will miss the playoffs by one spot.

I don't know. I think only one team will get in from both the East and North, leaving room for Jacksonville to claim that fifth/sixth spot with an 11-5 record.

It's hard to make any real predictions at this point, but Maurice Jones-Drew is a beast.

[YankeesSuck]

Linebacker Adalius Thomas from the Ravens is coming to Foxboro tommorow. If he passes his physical the Patriots finalize and sign him.

[atreyu_2020]

Linebacker Adalius Thomas from the Ravens is coming to Foxboro tommorow. If he passes his physical the Patriots finalize and sign him.

If they get one great receiver they will be the 07 champs, without doubt.

[NYG 5]

i would like to see the giants sign carr or boller for cheap if they hit the free agent market

[poopchow]

Smoot signed with the skins

apparently its 5 yrs 25 mil

[MusicIsDead]

If they get one great receiver they will be the 07 champs, without doubt.

Take randy for one of their first rounders. Both teams win.

[atreyu_2020]

Well the Niners got their explosive receiver in Ashley Lelie, if Alex Smith improves his game enough to where he can start winning them games, watch out for this fucking team.

[Jimothy51]

Ashley Lelie has one of the worst pair of hands of any reciever in the NFL. Once a game he gets you a 40 yard gain, but he usually ends up with about 3 catches and 2 drops. He is a bad player.

[poopchow]

L. Davis signs big deal with Dallas, 7 years OVER 49 mil

[Wu-tang]

L. Davis signs big deal with Dallas, 7 years OVER 49 mil

Good, Osi and Kiwanuka will run around him for years to come.

[psychotic n00b]

vikings....made me sad.

RELEASED Fred Smoot and Jermaine Wiggins QB Brad Johnson

[poopchow]

Good, Osi and Kiwanuka will run around him for years to come.

He may play guard though, so it still may be flozell getting tooled on.

[atreyu_2020]

Ashley Lelie has one of the worst pair of hands of any reciever in the NFL. Once a game he gets you a 40 yard gain, but he usually ends up with about 3 catches and 2 drops. He is a bad player.

I don't care how many he drops, he's a big play receiver, averages close to 18 yards per catch in his NFL career, and can do some damage being the Niners #1 receiver.

[poopchow]

Why was joey porter released?

[Wu-tang]

He was due like 5 million, and he's turning 30 soon, but I didn't expect them to cut him.

[BigMac]

Why was joey porter released?

And his dogs kill horses

[esruC]

Bears trade RB Thomas Jones and a draft pick to the Jets for thier 2nd round pick. Hopefully Cedric Benson can step up.

[atreyu_2020]

Why was joey porter released?

Cause he only showed up for 3 games a year?

He was also a good motivation for teams to want to beat the shit out of us. Porter gone is a great improvement, bring on James muthafuckin Harrison.

[FuNkYFreSH]

McGahee to the Broncos, sounds good

[BennyP]

McGahee to the Broncos, sounds good

Acutally Travis Henry signed a 3 year, 12 million dollar guaranteed contract today with the Broncs. Didnt expect TN to let him slip away, damn it.

EDIT: Actually it was a 5 year deal. Damn thats a steal. Well, maybe the Titans will land Mcgahee now, especially since 49ers are getting Nate Clements.

[ftbllplr]

Ahman Green, what the hell? You were nothing before Green Bay, now you leave? You are dead to me.

[~boondocksaint~]

I like Henry in Denver. I think he will do well. I'm still on the fence about Thomas jones going to the jets. Any thoughts as to where Randy McMicheals will end up? I'm thinking Titans (young could use him) or the jets.

[YankeesSuck]

Joey Porter is going to the Dolphins, I wonder if they will be predicted to win the Super Bowl again like last year.

[gatorpatric0]

I don't care how many he drops, he's a big play receiver, averages close to 18 yards per catch in his NFL career, and can do some damage being the Niners #1 receiver.

Lelie has always been looked at as a #1, but he's never been better than a #2 receiver. He was ok in Denver, bad in ATL. What makes you think he's going to step up to a #1 in San Fran? I say he has another normal year.

[TheWhiteRecluse]

Trade talks between Buffalo and Dominic Rhodes. Also, the Colts resigned Rob Morris and they released Stokley and Reagor... wtf i thought we traded Stokley to the Lions last year.

Lol Peyton Manning to host SNL on March 24

[Number 12]

My Cowboys picked up Brad Johnson the other day I hope only as a mentor to Tony Romo.

I don't think I could handle having another aging quarterback as the starter.

[psychotic n00b]

Johnson will start over Romo any day.

sorry to burst your bubble.

[Number 12]

Well going into the offseason Romo is slated as the starter so Brad will have to win the job. But I don't understand why...Brad Johnson is not the long term solution to no extent of the imagination.

Stupid Cowboys.....

[Nick is cool]

Johnson will start over Romo any day.

sorry to burst your bubble.

Well going into the offseason Romo is slated as the starter so Brad will have to win the job. But I don't understand why...Brad Johnson is not the long term solution to no extent of the imagination.

Stupid Cowboys.....





lol romos obviously the starter, you guys actually think bj could come in and start for them? I dont even think hes good enough to be the backup

[DontBottaMe13]

jamaal lewis just signed with the browns...ravens, titans, and the giants all interested in mcgahee...should be interesting

[psychotic n00b]

i was being a homer for johnson...i think that we should have kept him incase tarvaris cant prove himself.

[BennyP]

jamaal lewis just signed with the browns...ravens, titans, and the giants all interested in mcgahee...should be interesting

Titans will get him, we gots dat chedda!

[DontBottaMe13]

^^ lol i hope not, mcgahee and brandon jacobs on the g-men would be a sick combination

[kcobain1134]

willis to ravens for a 3rd and 7th this year, and a 3rd next year

[a7x1337]

packers cut veteran fullback william henderson. farewell to a real class act - thanks from all packers fans.

and so far the giants are sucking in the offseason

[Wu-tang]

packers cut veteran fullback william henderson. farewell to a real class act - thanks from all packers fans.

and so far the giants are sucking in the offseason

Not really. There isn't much talent in FA and there's no need to overpay mediocre players.

[a7x1337]

Not really. There isn't much talent in FA and there's no need to overpay mediocre players.
well not just the lack of moves so far, but i think releasing petigout was disastrous. especially now that he's the best LT on the FA wire

[Wu-tang]

well not just the lack of moves so far, but i think releasing petigout was disastrous. especially now that he's the best LT on the FA wire

Chronic back problems, injury prone, false start machine. We'll be fine. We had less sacks when he was out than when he was in. He's a good run blocker though, but Diehl will be able to fill in until Guy Whimper matures.

[MagnavoxMan]

Its so cool that the browns signed Jamal Lewis, its going to make them a whole lot better.

[BennyP]

The Titans are in a bind.We have big money, but are doing nothing with it. Ravens picked up a good back but he is a different back than what they are used to blocking for.

[gatorpatric0]

The Titans are in a bind.We have big money, but are doing nothing with it. Ravens picked up a good back but he is a different back than what they are used to blocking for.

Titans are in a really tough division....and the fact that they arnt improving themselves in the off-season means they will be 3rd in the South.

Go Jags.

[atreyu_2020]

Hahahaha, gotta love the Brownies. Spend money on a guy that's made less progress over the years with a shit O-line.

The Browns will continue to suck, and the Ravens have gotten gradually better, nice.

[YankeesSuck]

I wouldn't be suprised if we find out Brady is Anna Nicole's baby daddy lol.

If you haven't heard apparently that super model Giselle is pregnant from him, and his old GF already is. And Boston media is saying all kinds of things about him. And they are pissing me off. Leave him alone jeez.

[Wu-tang]

Its so cool that the browns signed Jamal Lewis, its going to make them a whole lot better.

lol not really

willis to ravens for a 3rd and 7th this year, and a 3rd next year

Spent too much for him.


Giants traded the shitty Tim Carter for Ruben Droughes to back up BJacobs. Pretty good trade for the G-Men.

[MagnavoxMan]

Why does everyone hate the Browns?

[esruC]

Why does everyone hate the Browns?

Uh, the Browns suck.

[atreyu_2020]

And the fact that adding Jamal Lewis won't do shit.

[esruC]

And the fact that adding Jamal Lewis won't do shit.

Exactly. The Browns will also pick Adrian Peterson in the draft, and that won't do shit, either.

[MusicIsDead]

Dominic Rhodes in the silver and black!

Guess that basically says no to AP and more than likely JaMarcus in the draft.

[led_head]

Fuck the Dolphins. Wes Welker is the man. He was their best offensive player last year. He really impressed me, ecspecially considering his lack of size. And of all the teams to sign him, it's NE. Fuck.

And McMichael, damn. I thought he was good, though he did drop a lot of passes and they said the TE they picked up from GB is better than McMichael if he can stay healthy...I'm just upset about getting rid of Welker.

[poopchow]

Fuck the Dolphins. Wes Welker is the man. He was their best offensive player last year. He really impressed me, ecspecially considering his lack of size. And of all the teams to sign him, it's NE. Fuck.

And McMichael, damn. I thought he was good, though he did drop a lot of passes and they said the TE they picked up from GB is better than McMichael if he can stay healthy...I'm just upset about getting rid of Welker.

I had welker and mcmichael on my fantasy team and i really liked them. Ive always liked mcmichael even though he was never that elite TE like i thought he could be.

Welker got like 4-6 Rec. a game and is pretty fast. Sad that he left Miami, but he should do well in NE with brady

[a7x1337]

to the dolphins fan above me, david martin is good, but i think mcmichael was better.
giants traded tim carter for droughns of the browns.
they're not losing anything, but droughns is a big question mark.

[Slid3r]

I just bought my Thomas Jones jersey....dangit

At least is says superbowl on it

[led_head]

I had welker and mcmichael on my fantasy team and i really liked them. Ive always liked mcmichael even though he was never that elite TE like i thought he could be.

Welker got like 4-6 Rec. a game and is pretty fast. Sad that he left Miami, but he should do well in NE with brady

Yeah, I was expecting McMichael to become one of the top TE's in the league, I'm not as upset over that as I am Welker. Of all the teams to sign him it's NE...

[YankeesSuck]

Donte Stallworth will be joining the Pats also next season. Stallworth (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2794615)

[Fag Boy]

I think alot of people are forgetting how old Jamal lewis is.


Hes only fucking 27

[BennyP]

Titans are in a really tough division....and the fact that they arnt improving themselves in the off-season means they will be 3rd in the South.

Go Jags.

I know they are gonna go after a bunch of mediocre fucks and depends on the draft....and Vince Young to win every game again...with help from the D of course with or without Pacman.

[atreyu_2020]

Figures when the NFC West is worth a fuck we play them...just lovely.

[Number 12]

I think that the NFC East is one of the toughest if not THE toughest division in the NFL

[a7x1337]

I think that the NFC East is one of the toughest if not THE toughest division in the NFC
fixed it for ya

[NYG 5]

droughns could be a really good, otis anderson kinda pickup. even though he aint that old either

[bobtheflob]

The Cowboys are in negotiations with Ken Hamlin, the FS from Seattle. He's no superstar but he's a young above average player who will fill one of their biggest needs. If this happens it will allow the Cowboys to concentrate on pass rushers and a backup NT in the draft. I'd be pretty happy if this pans out.

[Nick is cool]

The Cowboys are in negotiations with Ken Hamlin, the FS from Seattle. He's no superstar but he's a young above average player who will fill one of their biggest needs. If this happens it will allow the Cowboys to concentrate on pass rushers and a backup NT in the draft. I'd be pretty happy if this pans out.




ya i really hope they can sign him because if they do we can take a WR in the first round and then get a backup DT, some passrushers and lineman, etc. in the next couple rounds



maybe even draft a kicker




edit - nice http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

[atreyu_2020]

If your Superbowl pick for next season isn't the Pats...seriously dude.

[chr0nic]

ya i really hope they can sign him because if they do we can take a WR in the first round and then get a backup DT, some passrushers and lineman, etc. in the next couple rounds



maybe even draft a kicker




edit - nice http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

hell yea thats great new for the boys. damn i cant wait till next season. i want to see how the new coaching staff does for the team.

[Number 12]

Finally my Cowboys aren't going to be weak in the secondary. That has been our Achilles heel for years.

[tallywhacker888]

Now with Hamlin and Williams in the secondary opposing QBs can count on throwing for 350+ each game because of all the play action fakes they will be biting on, and all the big hits both of them will be looking for but instead just missing the tackle. lol I'm just a Seahawks fan who liked Hamlin. I know he's not the smartest but damn I loved it when he put the "Hammer" on someone.

[Nick is cool]

Now with Hamlin and Williams in the secondary opposing QBs can count on throwing for 350+ each game because of all the play action fakes they will be biting on, and all the big hits both of them will be looking for but instead just missing the tackle. lol I'm just a Seahawks fan who liked Hamlin. I know he's not the smartest but damn I loved it when he put the "Hammer" on someone.




Im sure watkins, our old safety, wasnt any better then hamlin in covering. And with our run stopping front 7, they wont even need to come up most of the time.

[esruC]

If your Superbowl pick for next season isn't the Pats...seriously dude.

True that. With all the players they've signed, they're gonna be unstoppable.

[Number 12]

True that. With all the players they've signed, they're gonna be unstoppable.

Thats what people said about the Redskins last year....

We all know how that turned out.:ohnoes:

[atreyu_2020]

Thats what people said about the Redskins last year....

We all know how that turned out.:ohnoes:

There's a big difference in signing Antwaan Randle El/Brandon Lloyd and Adalius Thomas/Donte Stallworth/Wes Welker.

[BigMac]

The Cincinnati Bengals will be hosting the Ratbirds for the first monday night game of the year.


Bitches.

[Number 12]

There's a big difference in signing Antwaan Randle El/Brandon Lloyd and Adalius Thomas/Donte Stallworth/Wes Welker.

Dont forget Adam Archuleta who was supposed to be the second coming of Troy Polamalu. We also know how that turned out.:ahhh:

[TheWhiteRecluse]

If your Superbowl pick for next season isn't the Pats...seriously dude.

Lol, I hate the Pats to much to pick them. I taking the Colts to repeat. As long as they dont have any injuries, their team looks pretty solid. The Pats have made alot of good moves and I can see them in the AFC championship again next year playin the Colts...

[Wu-tang]

If your Superbowl pick for next season isn't the Pats...seriously dude.

Hard not to take them, but I can't allow myself to pick the favorites in my SB picks during the off season.

Anyway, the Eagles traded shit to the Bills for TKO...Even if he had an achilles injury 2 years ago I can't help but think he's going to have a major impact. TKO's one of my favs off the Giants, look at his fucking neck... (http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/players/AC1BACB6F0EA4E8E8449CB16EF2A675C.jpg) Didn't do too well last year, but he just got off an achilles tear, and look what Julian Peterson did 2 years off his Achilles injury.

[tallywhacker888]

Hard not to take them, but I can't allow myself to pick the favorites in my SB picks during the off season.

Anyway, the Eagles traded shit to the Bills for TKO...Even if he had an achilles injury 2 years ago I can't help but think he's going to have a major impact. TKO's one of my favs off the Giants, look at his fucking neck... (http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/players/AC1BACB6F0EA4E8E8449CB16EF2A675C.jpg) Didn't do too well last year, but he just got off an achilles tear, and look what Julian Peterson did 2 years off his Achilles injury.


ROIDS!!!!!!!!!

[atreyu_2020]

The Bills are morons for giving up Spikes, Trotter/Spikes is nasty.

And normally I don't pick SB winners during the offseason, but this year is different. The Patriots are going to win it all, no doubt about it.

They were one key defensive player and one good wide receiver away from winning it all last year, they have that now, add on Wes Welker, and a pissed off Pats team, and they're basically golden.

[Wu-tang]

And 2 first round picks...Damn it, Belichick.

[atreyu_2020]

And 2 first round picks...Damn it, Belichick.

Yes, dare I forget that too.. :banghead: