Which actors are real martial artists?

[ngc4594]

Wesely Snipes I know is around a 5th or 6th dan black belt.
Chuck Norris is up around there too.
Jet Li is obviously a 5th dan or more since he was taught it since he was 9.
I've heard that Steven Segal was a martial artist but I'm not too sure about that.
Anybody know?

I also wanted to comment on Jet Li's fighting style.
In "kiss of the dragon" he seems to use his fists more at first and then when it gets more brutal he seems to switch to legs as a major weapon.
I thought, when I saw the film, that almost anybody would be able to distinguish a accomplished martial artist in him because of his non-show off way of fighting even though I know it was actually the martial arts director that told him what to do, but still.(. He didn't kick a chair out of the air, thus wasting energy, like Dias did in "charlies angels".
And he almost always dodged to the side or backwards and conserved alot of energy. he also exploited their weak points, took advantage gravity when he smashed the shorter german dude into the floor head first, and uses the opponents weight against him.


And I admire also, the way he evaded the cops in kiss of the dragon. I'd say jet li there, is the way real CIA, and FBI operatives should be. But of course it takes at least 38 years (at the least) to reach the master level, and that is if you had started martial arts training before you were 11.

[disturbed2]

jackie chan does all of his stunts and scenes he actually makes up his moves

[Kanism]

two words: Donnie Yen...if you don't know about him...you should...dude kicks major ass all over the place...but, he is happy enough staying out of the limelight to choreograph fight scenes...don't ask me why

credits:

Iron Monkey
Blade 2
Highlander: Endgame

a whole buncha chinese flicks...

also, Steven Seagall is a black belt in crap fu...he's a punk...

[ngc4594]

Thats cool. I really thought that Blade2 had some of the best and most creative martial arts I have ever seen. Especially the plank scene where he faces off with nomac.
And back flipping onto a motor cycle is too cool.
Both blade films I think were very good vampire films.
It portrayed them like actual civilized people, not like films like Dracula 2000.

[Kanism]

Originally posted by ngc4594
Thats cool. I really thought that Blade2 had some of the best and most creative martial arts I have ever seen. Especially the plank scene where he faces off with nomac.
And back flipping onto a motor cycle is too cool.
Both blade films I think were very good vampire films.
It portrayed them like actual civilized people, not like films like Dracula 2000. yep, he Yen choreographed it...I like to see "vampires" as a cultured lot...not a set of blood thirsty savages on the lam... :)

[passionpanda23]

Originally posted by disturbed2
jackie chan does all of his stunts and scenes he actually makes up his moves

Yeah he does, he even broke his foot in one movie, but he put a cast on, painted it to match his shoe, and went back to shooting the scene. Now that is some dedication.

[ngc4594]

also, Steven Seagall is a black belt in crap fu...he's a punk... [/B][/QUOTE]

Did you mean he isn't a real martial artist?

[minia]

Steven Seagal lived in Japan doing martial arts for a while, and then I think he was in the CIA. Jackie Chan and Jet Li and freakin amazing in their own ways, as is Michelle Yeuo (sp?). That dude from Iron Monkey is in a class by himself....you were referring to the doctor, right Kan??

[chris_78660]

you forgot about the biggest joke of them all "van dam"...
steven segals body guard mopped the floor with van dam one night at a club. i laughed my ass off when i heard about the ass kicking

[Kanism]

Originally posted by minia
Steven Seagal lived in Japan doing martial arts for a while, and then I think he was in the CIA. Jackie Chan and Jet Li and freakin amazing in their own ways, as is Michelle Yeuo (sp?). That dude from Iron Monkey is in a class by himself....you were referring to the doctor, right Kan?? you know it!!! the doctor...Wong Fei Yeung (not too sure)...dude is a MAJOR bad ass...waiting to borrow a chinese series he starred in from my parents (19 VCD's long!!!!)...he also starred in Iron Monkey 2 (as Iron Monkey)...but, it was really campy

Seagal is a punk bitch...blech...my friend in Orange County belongs to the firm that is representing him in his case...he's a joke

actually, Jackie had his beginnings as a ballet performer; they old timey (bruce lee era) movies employed ballet dancers as all the moves were choreographed.

another fun Jackie fact...Jackie had his neck broken (not actually) by Bruce Lee in the move, "Enter The Dragon"....

[Wire17]

yea, and most of Jackies first appearences in movies were as Bruce Lee's stunt double

[gibridehome]

Dammit i thought i posted here. Oh well, i think Jackie Chan would win, because it looks to me that hes got more muscle than the Jet guy. And personally, i think he is more original.

Edit: I did post in a different thread that looked like this one. Sorry.

[Kanism]

Originally posted by Wire17
yea, and most of Jackies first appearences in movies were as Bruce Lee's stunt double what?!?!? I don't believe that one...Bruce made all of 4 movies...and I was almost sure he did all his own work...

[ngc4594]

Originally posted by gibridehome
Dammit i thought i posted here. Oh well, i think Jackie Chan would win, because it looks to me that hes got more muscle than the Jet guy. And personally, i think he is more original.



It is hard to tell, I would agree though, Jackie Chan might win since he is older and is a Master Black belt ( he made his own style) so I guess he has quite a bit more experience than Jet Li.

Nevertheless, the difference wouldn't lie in muscle but in the quickness of his reflexes, ability to conserve stamina during a fight and ability to adapt to another person's style. Although in a way it would lie in muscle because to be able to kick 35 feet/sec
and punch around 25/sec, you would have well toned muscles but it would primarily be the refined reflexes.

[DragonLeader]

aaaaaaaaatwo words: Donnie Yen...if you don't know about him...you should...dude kicks major ass all over the place...but, he is happy enough staying out of the limelight to choreograph fight scenes...don't ask me why

credits:

Iron Monkey
Blade 2
Highlander: Endgame

a whole buncha chinese flicks...

also, Steven Seagall is a black belt in crap fu...he's a punk...

Steven Seagal is most certainly NOT a 'punk' and calling kung fu 'crap fu' merely shows your ignorance of martial arts. Oh and btw...Steven is a black belt Master in Aikido with his own Dojo. Think you're all that and a bag of chips? Obviously, you aren't half as bad as you think you are so I suggest you go study Martial Arts before you put down a great man.

[kaleuga]

you bumped a 2 year old thread? wow, that must be some sort of record, still im not a huge fan of Steven seagull... although i would'nt say punk...

[RandallGMac]

aaaaaaaaa

Steven Seagal is most certainly NOT a 'punk' and calling kung fu 'crap fu' merely shows your ignorance of martial arts. Oh and btw...Steven is a black belt Master in Aikido with his own Dojo. Think you're all that and a bag of chips? Obviously, you aren't half as bad as you think you are so I suggest you go study Martial Arts before you put down a great man.

True. There are lots of misconceptions about Seagal, but he's a pretty good Aikidoka actually. I got a chance to train with a few of his students in an Aikido seminar a while back, they're into the harder, more combat oriented side of Aikido.

[Dual]

True. There are lots of misconceptions about Seagal, but he's a pretty good Aikidoka actually. I got a chance to train with a few of his students in an Aikido seminar a while back, they're into the harder, more combat oriented side of Aikido.

Still doesn't excuse his awful acting.

*squints eyes* "I'm gonna snap your neck in two...."


Yeah Jet Li won a lot of competitions when he was a kid so he's definitely the real deal. Jackie Chan in his prime was a force to be reckoned with too.

[Caricature]

Wesely Snipes I know is around a 5th or 6th dan black belt.
Chuck Norris is up around there too.
Jet Li is obviously a 5th dan or more since he was taught it since he was 9.
I've heard that Steven Segal was a martial artist but I'm not too sure about that.
Anybody know?

I also wanted to comment on Jet Li's fighting style.
In "kiss of the dragon" he seems to use his fists more at first and then when it gets more brutal he seems to switch to legs as a major weapon.
I thought, when I saw the film, that almost anybody would be able to distinguish a accomplished martial artist in him because of his non-show off way of fighting even though I know it was actually the martial arts director that told him what to do, but still.(. He didn't kick a chair out of the air, thus wasting energy, like Dias did in "charlies angels".
And he almost always dodged to the side or backwards and conserved alot of energy. he also exploited their weak points, took advantage gravity when he smashed the shorter german dude into the floor head first, and uses the opponents weight against him.


And I admire also, the way he evaded the cops in kiss of the dragon. I'd say jet li there, is the way real CIA, and FBI operatives should be. But of course it takes at least 38 years (at the least) to reach the master level, and that is if you had started martial arts training before you were 11.


Bruce Lee and Steven Segul are all real martial artists.

[Joey Orion]

Steven Seagal... Wasn't he the first American to have an Akido dojo in Japan? Either way, he's legit.

Van Damme though, different story. The guy is a ballet dancer, I believe, not a martial artist. To be fair to Van Damme, he did get punched out by a former Hell's Angel not just "some bodyguard". Now had it been a different normal guy, then sure. Still doesn't change the fact that he sucks lol

[h4x0r]

Tony Jaa The guy from Ong Bak. Theres a video of him floating around here somewhere of him kicking a board something like 10 feet in the air. He's a master of Mui Tai and he's freaking Unbeliveable.

[RandallGMac]

Still doesn't excuse his awful acting.

*squints eyes* "I'm gonna snap your neck in two...."


Yeah Jet Li won a lot of competitions when he was a kid so he's definitely the real deal. Jackie Chan in his prime was a force to be reckoned with too.

:lol: That's true too. He may be able to fight well, but his acting and movies are still kind of bland and forgettable.

Then of course, you have Jet Li, Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee who are ("were" in Bruce's case) very good actors as well as accomplished martial artists.

And then there is... :bow: Chuck Norris. :bow: The most brilliant acting and screenplay writing I have ever seen. Not to mention incredible action-laced movies like Delta Force 2 and Walker Texas Ranger 3: Deadly Reunion.

[the_saint]

donnie yen is also awsome in hero. i plan to start a martial arts at the end of the year, anyone know where i can get info on the diffrent styles?

[James Bond 007]

Cynthia Rothrock AKA China O'Brien would probably mop the floor with most of those mentioned, shes hard as fuck and was the inspiration for the Mortal Kombat character Sonja Blade.

[Skiptomylue]

jack chan is a master at gymnastics.. i think thats it.. i dont think he actually took a lot of martial arts, if he did he didnt compete, i heard he was just a gymnist.. thats why hes able to fit threw ladder rungs..

[drone]

Tony Jaa The guy from Ong Bak. Theres a video of him floating around here somewhere of him kicking a board something like 10 feet in the air. He's a master of Mui Tai and he's freaking Unbeliveable.
That guy is crazy. Ive seen him jump onto some guys shoulders! I havent seen his movie but ive seen him perform in hong kong. Definatly the next Jet Li or even better!

[ndn_goat]

Stephen Chow. Lol well i know his moves are completely fake but that doesnt stop them from being kickass hilarious movies.

The best actor that is a martial artists in my opinion is Jackie Chan. His movies are funny and the stunts are simply amazing (mind you im talking about OLD jackie chan movies). Its too bad hes getting terrible roles in American movies, its really a shame because he wants to be in different types of movies like dramatic movies but he gets placed into stupid movies like "The Tuxedo". I mean let the man be in a serious movie for once.