Does child molestation get worse than this?

[snyderman]

The source. (http://centralflorida.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximized&view=article&id=D8O0SNCO0&_action=validatearticle)

SAVANNAH, Ga. (Associated Press) -- A convicted child molester and his father took turns sexually assaulting a 6-year-old boy while the molester's mother watched, then they choked the boy to death, according to an indictment issued Wednesday. The indictment charges all three family members with murder and child molestation in the slaying of young Christopher Michael Barrios, whose body was found last Thursday inside a trash bag dumped by a roadside.

District Attorney Stephen D. Kelley said he will seek the death penalty against 32-year-old George David Edenfield, who has a prior child molestation conviction from 1997, and his parents, David and Peggy Edenfield.

"This is one of the most horrific crimes that I have seen in 21 years of prosecutions," Kelley said.

Christopher went missing for a week before police found his body about three miles from his trailer park home outside Brunswick, a Georgia port city 60 miles south of Savannah. The suspects lived in a mobile home across the street from the boy's grandmother.

The indictment contains grim details about the case that police and prosecutors had not previously revealed. It says Christopher died from asphyxiation March 8 _ the day he was reported missing _ after the suspects choked him while "ignoring his complaints that they were hurting him." The indictment does not say which of three caused the boy's death.

It also claims George Edenfield and his 58-year-old father sodomized the boy and forced him to perform oral sex while Peggy Edenfield watched and masturbated.

"They deserve the worst, for them to torture my son like that, every last one of them," said Mike Barrios, the slain boy's father.

A friend of the Edenfield family, Donald Dale, was indicted on charges of concealing a death and tampering with evidence. Kelley said Dale did not become involved until after Christopher had been killed.

Nathan Williams, the attorney for 57-year-old Peggy Edenfield, declined to comment Wednesday. Attorneys for George and David Edenfield did not immediately return phone calls.

Glynn County police arrested the Edenfields four days after the child vanished while playing alone outside. Police Chief Matt Doering said all three suspects confessed to playing roles in the boy's abduction.

Police have said Dale admitted to investigators he helped the Edenfields dispose of Christopher's body.

Other charges against the Edenfields include false imprisonment, cruelty to children and enticing a child for indecent purposes.

Police have described George David Edenfield as mentally slow, but not retarded and capable of understanding right from wrong.

Ironically, the Edenfields moved into the trailer park where Christopher lived last year because of a Georgia law intended to keep child molesters away from children. Sheriffs' deputies told George Edenfield in September that he had to leave his home near downtown Brunswick because it was too close to a playground. Georgia law prohibits registered sex offenders from living within 1,000 feet of schools and other places that draw children.

His family went to live in the trailer park in October after George Edenfield was arrested for failing to move as ordered. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was sentenced to probation March 5, three days before Christopher disappeared.

George Edenfield was required to register as a sex offender after he pleaded guilty in 1997 to molesting two boys, ages 7 and 9. Prosecutors said he rubbed his clothed body "in a sexual manner" against the boys, who also were fully dressed. He was sentenced then to 10 years on probation.

His father, David Edenfield, pleaded guilty to incest in 1994. He was accused of having sex with an adult relative who was not his son.






Holy shit! That is the worse Ive ever even heard of. Im against the death penalty, but damn....

Also, with all the racism on this forum, I had to put an example of white crime.

[Junkman]

They should have saved the rope for those motherfuckers, not Saddam.

[Karly]

this boy went missing yet I never saw an hour of greta van susteren devoted to it or a Larry King live or any other program devoted to this child, can you guess why??
this is some disturbing shit- the person who was supposed to care for him was the one putting him in harms way, she deserves to be skinned alive and dipped in salt water.

[Mr. Heskey]

This is why I support the death penalty 100 percent.

My only complaint: we make it too painfree for the bastards.

I'm not trying to be funny or anything but the poor kid's last moments on earth were of him taking it up the ass...just pitiful.:mad:

[Devastation]

I can;t believe what I just read! These people are the lowest of the low.

[_Joe]

They probably should also get conspiracy to commit murder also, since the mother was there helping to destroy evidence, presumably.

Not like it matters, they should all get either life in prison or death. Im against the death penalty, but the group of people I mind the least if they die is child molestors.

EDIT:

After reading the rest of the article, Dale should get much more than tampering with evidence if he helped to dispose of the body.

[xvar888]

Oh my god I felt horrible after reading this. Those sick fucks just need to burn :mad:

[DeSimone-J]

This is why I support the death penalty 100 percent.

My only complaint: we make it too painfree for the bastards.

I'm not trying to be funny or anything but the poor kid's last moments on earth were of him taking it up the ass...just pitiful.:mad:

I agree completely, some of these people just don't deserve a painless death.

[camjoe87]

I say we blind them, deafen them, and paralyze them. Then let them sit in a bed for the rest of their lives while being fed through tubes so they don't die. I'm only being nice, by the way.

[gigglemuffin]

I didn't think that human beings can commit such cruel acts on a child. A fucking child for christ sakes. I hope they don't get the death penalty and get killed in prison in the most brutal fashion. They damn well deserve it.

And its too bad we will never hear about this in national news because of he victims hispanic heritage. If his name was John Smith the media might have a story. Pricks.

[Kazimierz]

See, i dont think the death penalty is reasonable here. I say put 'em in a tiny room, to short to stand, not wide enough to lie down in.

[Poser Park]

They should let me have them...I'll treat them in the most ungodly fashion...something that would make Dahmer look like Chris...things that nitemares are made of.

:)

[david_slupper]

This is why I support the death penalty 100 percent.



agree, scumbags like these deserve no mercy


And its too bad we will never hear about this in national news because of he victims hispanic heritage. If his name was John Smith the media might have a story. Pricks.

It was on CNN's frontpage.

[MexAmercn_Moose]

wow...this is some disturbing shit, it makes me want to kill those motherfuckers, damn, i don't think i have been this mad in a while

[OE800]

i think they should be tortured to death, nothing that the legal system can do will be good enough for them, i hope hell really exsists so they can burn there.

[alex_de_large]

This is why I support the death penalty 100 percent.

My only complaint: we make it too painfree for the bastards.

I'm not trying to be funny or anything but the poor kid's last moments on earth were of him taking it up the ass...just pitiful.:mad:

I would rather give them the shittiest life imaginable then kill them. Death is a form of mercy. I say make our prisons a hell on earth. Give people like this just enough food and water to barely survive and make them listen to K-fed cds all day long.

[_Joe]

I didn't think that human beings can commit such cruel acts on a child. A fucking child for christ sakes. I hope they don't get the death penalty and get killed in prison in the most brutal fashion. They damn well deserve it.

And its too bad we will never hear about this in national news because of he victims hispanic heritage. If his name was John Smith the media might have a story. Pricks.

It looks like the AP picked it up.....

http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/03/21/616345.html&cvqh=itn_boysdeath


This is why I support the death penalty 100 percent.

My only complaint: we make it too painfree for the bastards.

I'm not trying to be funny or anything but the poor kid's last moments on earth were of him taking it up the ass...just pitiful.:mad:

Lethal injection is in no way painless. Almost half of those put to death are legally awake during the procedure, but paralyzed so it seems they feel nothing. What actually goes on inside them is sodium is introduced into their bloodstream, making every vessel an open wound with salt in it. Then they are put into cardiac arrest while they are STILL AWAKE.

I say give them lethal injection with low doses of anasteasia (sp)

[Karly]

oh it was on web sites- trust me if this kid was blue eyed and blonde- there would have been an all out man hunt with 20 million fuckin news programs discussing the case. he didnt matter because his last name was Barrios- plain and simple.

[snyderman]

oh it was on web sites- trust me if this kid was blue eyed and blonde- there would have been an all out man hunt with 20 million fuckin news programs discussing the case. he didnt matter because his last name was Barrios- plain and simple.

I have got to agree. The Jessica Lunsford case was similar, but not to this horrendous degree. You cant turn on the TV without hearing about her. She has the Jessica Lunsford Act being pushed by none other than Bill O'Reilly.

Christopher Michael Barrios has only some internet attention. :wah:

Dont believe it? Google the two names.

[Karly]

I have got to agree. The Jessica Lunsford case was similar, but not to this horrendous degree. You cant turn on the TV without hearing about her. She has the Jessica Lunsford Act being pushed by none other than Bill O'Reilly.

Christopher Michael Barrios has only some internet attention. :wah:

Dont believe it? Google the two names.


Isnt it disgusting- and I by no means am trying to lessen any childs case- I feel that alllll children should get the same media attention when something horrendous occurs, but sadly this child will go without any type of act named after him and any laws enacted to better serve our children. I am so disgusted by this case simply because his mother was in on it- how can you even allow that? Where is the outrage in the media over that fact?? The one person who is supposed to protect him is the one who allowed his abuse and death, in all honesty this child is better off in the next life.

[sinner78]

they all face long term jail in a southern prison.
pretty much guaranteed hell. That woman will get torn apart in a womens jail.

This was in georgia after all. The state where that 17 year old kid got 10 years in jail for sleeping with a 16 year old at a party.
they got brutal punishments for even minor sex offences .these motherfuckas are doomed.

[Nocturnal]

Send them to Gitmo.

Trailer Trash FTL

[avix123]

Good thing this didn't happen in California or they'd have a group protesting on their behalf.

[chalupa]

Even in prison there exists a justice system. Or rather, a system of justice...these people will get demolished in there. Remember what happened to Dahmer? Hopefully they'll take their time killing these people...nice and slow.

[Karly]

Even in prison there exists a justice system. Or rather, a system of justice...these people will get demolished in there. Remember what happened to Dahmer? Hopefully they'll take their time killing these people...nice and slow.


actually because of their crimes they just may be placed alone in order to assure "their safety". my whole issue with this isnt whether or not they will face justice- i'm sure in soem way they will, none that would suit me of course- but the fact that the media didnt cover this they way they have the missing boy scouts case.

[OE800]

we can only hope they get placed into the general prison poplulation, child molesters get the worst treatment by other inmates and guards.

[Nocturnal]

actually because of their crimes they just may be placed alone in order to assure "their safety". my whole issue with this isnt whether or not they will face justice- i'm sure in soem way they will, none that would suit me of course- but the fact that the media didnt cover this they way they have the missing boy scouts case.

Well, it was a black child.

[_Joe]

we can only hope they get placed into the general prison poplulation, child molesters get the worst treatment by other inmates and guards.

True, this one pedo priest got shat and pissed on BY GUARDS! He eventually hung himself

[slapnpopbass]

We need to do the civilized thing...torture them.

[Hawks9718]

Well, it was a black child.

and it was a boy... Can you imagine if it was a white girl from Naperville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naperville), with pretty blue eyes and blonde curls? It would be all over the front page for weeks and every politician in this country would be jumping over eachother to enact a myriad of new laws.

[Mugatu]

Child Molesters are Gods children too. They should be taught the values of right and wrong and be released back into society to be productive members. How dare you all play God and say they should be killed.


My father was a child molester but I know he loved me. He was just ill.

[OE800]

Child Molesters are Gods children too. They should be taught the values of right and wrong and be released back into society to be productive members. How dare you all play God and say they should be killed.


My father was a child molester but I know he loved me. He was just ill.

no. and these freaks not only molested the kid, they murdered him and put his body in a trash bag and threw it in a ditch.

[Mugatu]

no. and these freaks not only molested the kid, they murdered him and put his body in a trash bag and threw it in a ditch.


Im not saying what they did wasnt wrong Im just saying they are still gods children. They should be shown what it is to be empathetic and healed of their illness. Only then can true justice be served. We should be the better men and turn the other cheak.

[OE800]

Im not saying what they did wasnt wrong Im just saying they are still gods children. They should be shown what it is to be empathetic and healed of their illness. Only then can true justice be served. We should be the better men and turn the other cheak.

are you kidding?

[Mugatu]

are you kidding?

I find it offensive that you view gods teachings as a joke. Honest when I read this forum and saw how many people wanted death I thought they were kidding... Its a sad day for humanity indeed.

[camjoe87]

When trying to keep a productive society, we do not need people like this running around. Some people can't be helped. I believe in living a good life, but I also believe some people deserve to die.

[Timebomb]

Child Molesters are Gods children too. They should be taught the values of right and wrong and be released back into society to be productive members. How dare you all play God and say they should be killed.


My father was a child molester but I know he loved me. He was just ill.

Well I hope before they fry that some of Gods more well endowed children teach them the values of a good ass raping.

[OE800]

i think they should be seperated from society, they are a danger to others and we cant just turn the other cheek to them. but god will be their final judge and im sure they will get what they deserve.

[Mugatu]

I never said to turn the other cheak and let them run free. Just dont murder them. Try to rehabilitate them so that a lesson can be learned and they have a chance to redeem themselves... even if it takes a life time to do it plus extra. Perhaps in time they can have seminars for other child rapists to show them the errors of their ways. Sort of like a child rapist hot line.

Its easy to kill and much harder to forgive.

[chalupa]

My father was a child molester but I know he loved me.

^^ Wow. Good luck with all that.

Look, this is pretty simple -- they knew what they were doing was wrong the whole time. It wasn't an impulse they couldn't control, there was malice, torture, murder, body disposal...on a child.

If you believe in your turn-the-other-cheek god, fine. Let god sort these people out after they get fried. And if god is mad at us for frying these people, then I don't want him to be my god anyway. These people are scum, no, they are less than scum. I say release them into the general prison population while they are awaiting their execution. Make their lives an extended living hell like they did to that poor kid.

[Mugatu]

^^ Wow. Good luck with all that.

Look, this is pretty simple -- they knew what they were doing was wrong the whole time. It wasn't an impulse they couldn't control, there was malice, torture, murder, body disposal...on a child.

If you believe in your turn-the-other-cheek god, fine. Let god sort these people out after they get fried. And if god is mad at us for frying these people, then I don't want him to be my god anyway. These people are scum, no, they are less than scum. I say release them into the general prison population while they are awaiting their execution. Make their lives an extended living hell like they did to that poor kid.

Even though you may know exactly what you are doing it doesnt mean you arent ill. Your thought patterns may be corrupted due to a past experience. If you have ever seen American Psycho then you will udnerstand what I speak of. Or even hannibal for that matter.

Its nice to see you follow Satan though Hitler.

Also thank you for your kind words about my father. I have been coping with it relatively well.

[evilmittens]

Sadly, a guy I know quite well was arrested yesterday for raping a 14 year old boy. Even though I know, and liked him, I would put a bullet in his head.

Though Kaz's idea of a small room sounds nice also.

[Mugatu]

Sadly, a guy I know quite well was arrested yesterday for raping a 14 year old boy. Even though I know, and liked him, I would put a bullet in his head.

Though Kaz's idea of a small room sounds nice also.

Fear not. I will pray to God for your sins of hate and violence... and that he may show you the light.

[evilmittens]

Fear not. I will pray to God for your sins of hate and violence... and that he may show you the light.

I do not need prayers, he needs them.

[chalupa]

Even though you may know exactly what you are doing it doesnt mean you arent ill. Your thought patterns may be corrupted due to a past experience. If you have ever seen American Psycho then you will udnerstand what I speak of. Or even hannibal for that matter.

Its nice to see you follow Satan though Hitler.

Also thank you for your kind words about my father. I have been coping with it relatively well.

1) American Psycho was a movie, not a psychological disorder.
2) Hannibal was a movie as well.
3) Me, Satan, and Hitler walk into a bar...no but seriously, what do you mean by that? I r confoosed.

4) I was actually being serious about wishing you luck. I can't tell if your response is sarcastic or not, so I'm saying this to you, my post wasn't. It sucks he had a problem, it sucks that you may have been the target of that problem.

I still, however, don't think that "rehabilitated" is an option. Particularly for people who did such an organized, heinous thing to a child as those in this thread. They don't deserve a second chance.

[Mugatu]

I do not need prayers, he needs them.

Who does? God?

[evilmittens]

Who does? God?

Nononononono, both the child molester in the story and my soon-to-be ex coworker rapist.

[Mugatu]

1) American Psycho was a movie, not a psychological disorder.
2) Hannibal was a movie as well.
3) Me, Satan, and Hitler walk into a bar...no but seriously, what do you mean by that? I r confoosed.

4) I was actually being serious about wishing you luck. I can't tell if your response is sarcastic or not, so I'm saying this to you, my post wasn't. It sucks he had a problem, it sucks that you may have been the target of that problem.

I still, however, don't think that "rehabilitated" is an option. Particularly for people who did such an organized, heinous thing to a child.

Im simply using movies to relate to you young hip in the know generation types but perhaps I was a bit too intelligent. These characters are products of their environment and became monsters only when treated like one (ok they dont know the main characters past in american psycho but the statement still applies). They knew full well what they were doing but that doesnt mean they werent ill with misguided perceptions.

Dont worry about your confusion though... Hitler was confused as well.

Thanks for your kind words though about my situation. I still get raped sometimes in my dreams (my dad didnt do it he just watched like a pussy) but I usually counter that with a stiff shot.

[Karly]

Child Molesters are Gods children too. They should be taught the values of right and wrong and be released back into society to be productive members. How dare you all play God and say they should be killed.


My father was a child molester but I know he loved me. He was just ill.

if ur dad was a pedo he deserves to die too. there is NO rehabilitating a monster. they all deserve to die, with what they have done and taken away from a child they deserve nothing less than a slow tortuous grueling death.

[Mugatu]

if ur dad was a pedo he deserves to die too. there is NO rehabilitating a monster. they all deserve to die, with what they have done and taken away from a child they deserve nothing less than a slow tortuous grueling death.

Ive forgiven him and Im his son. Who are you to say he deserves to die. You dont know him or know what its like to go through. He has shown remorse as well and has done alot to turn his life around. Its easy to point the finger at someone especially when you cannot relate to their situation. Dont worry I will pray for you.

Nononononono, both the child molester in the story and my soon-to-be ex coworker rapist.

Do you know why your friend wanted to rape kids? Was he ever abused himself? Did he have a strange fixation with shaving cats?

[Karly]

Ive forgiven him and Im his son. Who are you to say he deserves to die. You dont know him or know what its like to go through. He has shown remorse as well and has done alot to turn his life around. Its easy to point the finger at someone especially when you cannot relate to their situation. Dont worry I will pray for you.


dont frikkin pray for me, no matter what you may think your dad isnt "sick" he's a monster and some child has to live with horrible memories thanks to him -and yeah he does in fact deserve to die.I'm positive that if given the chance your dear old daddy will in fact molest another child, that isnt a crime you commit "by mistake".

[chalupa]

Im simply using movies to relate to you young hip in the know generation types but perhaps I was a bit too intelligent.

Don't patronize me, champ.

And you still never explained this:

Its nice to see you follow Satan though Hitler.


It is not even a sentence.

Lastly, (back to being serious) do you have a fixation with shaving cats?

[Mugatu]

dont frikkin pray for me, no matter what you may think your dad isnt "sick" he's a monster and some child has to live with horrible memories thanks to him -and yeah he does in fact deserve to die.I'm positive that if given the chance your dear old daddy will in fact molest another child, that isnt a crime you commit "by mistake".

He has been free to molest. I never turned him in... I forgave him and gave him a chance to turn his life around. Only one time did he try it but I cried alot and he appologized almost immidiately. Hes been good ever since. I could say you deserve to die for showing no mercy and thus being sub human. Hitler.

[Timebomb]

Ive forgiven him and Im his son. Who are you to say he deserves to die. You dont know him or know what its like to go through. He has shown remorse as well and has done alot to turn his life around. Its easy to point the finger at someone especially when you cannot relate to their situation. Dont worry I will pray for you.

Christians have been killing people all through history. Oh but lets spare the murdering child rapists.

[Karly]

He has been free to molest. I never turned him in... I forgave him and gave him a chance to turn his life around. Only one time did he try it but I cried alot and he appologized almost immidiately. Hes been good ever since. I could say you deserve to die for showing no mercy and thus being sub human. Hitler.


I'm sub human- you better refer to your dear old molesting daddy, do you really think he didnt molest or isnt molesting a child right now- you are just as much a piece of shit as he is for allowing a monster that you know is a danger to children to be on the streets. Point blank-he deserves a slow cruel death, and you are just as guilty.

[rand0m]

They should be processed according to the countries law and whatever punishment should abide by the human rights acts.

To simply say 'torcher the fuckers' lowers you down to their level.

To become emotionally involved destroys all sane judgement. Ever wondered by a gang that numerously beats up an old lady never gets the same disrespect as a child killer. You can't emotionally connect to an old lady as easily as a small child.

As badly as these people need to be punished, we should never go out the lines of the law to deal with them.

[Timebomb]

As badly as these people need to be punished, we should never go out the lines of the law to deal with them.
You're absolutely right. We should let the animals in prison do that. :)

[Karly]

Random I can get your logic and all but seeing as how I have worked with children my whole life and I have my own- anyone who harms a child deserves nothing short of death. Why should they be allowed to breathe the same air? No thanks, kill em all.

[Mugatu]

Don't patronize me, champ.

And you still never explained this:



It is not even a sentence.

Lastly, (back to being serious) do you have a fixation with shaving cats?

Sure its a sentence. Im not patronizing you... I used pop culture examples to relate to a new generation. Would you perfer 18th century references? No fixation I just noticed my Dad shaved alot of cats when he raped kids.

Christians have been killing people all through history. Oh but lets spare the murdering child rapists.


Well even the Christian killers should be forgiven. Forgive everyone... do not discriminate. Idiot.

I'm sub human- you better refer to your dear old molesting daddy, do you really think he didnt molest or isnt molesting a child right now- you are just as much a piece of shit as he is for allowing a monster that you know is a danger to children to be on the streets. Point blank-he deserves a slow cruel death, and you are just as guilty.

I hired a little girl to follow my dad so I know hes been good. You presumptious asshole. By the way where do you live?

Random I can get your logic and all but seeing as how I have worked with children my whole life and I have my own- anyone who harms a child deserves nothing short of death. Why should they be allowed to breathe the same air? No thanks, kill em all.

I didnt know you owned air? Ive been working with children my whole life too... I think they are precious creatures. We should protect them but that doesnt mean we should kill people who want to touch their soft supple skin.

[Karly]

I hired a little girl to follow my dad so I know hes been good. You presumptious asshole. By the way where do you live?



Dont worry about where the fuck I live you fuckin pedophile, thats its isnt it- you and your dad do this together, it helps you bond and shit?? Fuckin pedo's, you all deserve to die.

[Timebomb]

Well even the Christian killers should be forgiven. Forgive everyone... do not discriminate. Idoit.

Wow.

Excuse me but did I stoop to childish name calling with you? I know you Christians get offended when someone calls out one of your many fallacies, but I suggest you watch yourself. Calling me an idiot in CE isn't going to be very beneficial to your future here.

[Mugatu]

Wow.

Excuse me but did I stoop to childish name calling with you? I know you Christians get offended when someone calls out one of your many fallacies, but I suggest you watch yourself. Calling me an "idoit" (lol) in CE isn't going to be very beneficial to your future here.

What else do you call someone whos stupid? Special Needs? I only called you an idiot after I made my point as well. Idiot. Besides its not my problem... I didnt kill anyone and Im Christian.. you make it sound like Im responsible for my faiths sins. By that logic your just as guilty as the child rapist because hes American too.

[chalupa]

Mugatu, you wrote:

"Its nice to see you follow Satan though Hitler."

What does that mean? "It is nice to see you follow Satan though Hitler" is not a full sentence. Explain, please.

...you also wrote:

but that doesnt mean we should kill people who want to touch their soft supple skin.

Are you trying to freak us out? Are you fishing for emotional responses? You do realize that describing children as having soft, supple skin kinda sets you up as a pedo, too. Pedobear would be proud.

[Timebomb]

What else do you call someone whos stupid? Special Needs? I only called you an idiot after I made my point as well. Idiot.

Some people never learn.

[_Joe]

damn, who was that mugatu kid? hahahaha



I believe we shouldn't kill them, but they should NEVER be let outside prison walls ever again. Also, we should institute a program like the one where child molesters have to tell their neighbors who they are, we should have that in prison too. No hiding, mutha fucka! The rest of their lives are going to be torture enough.

Saying that, there is never going to be any compensation for the parents of that poor young boy, even the death of these sick mother fuckers. My prayers go out to them.

[Karly]

Chalupa, thats why I said he probably does it along with his dad,"soft supple skin"?? Are you kidding me??

[chalupa]

It was weird -- Mugatu would make a semi-cogent point, and then fly off the handle. It was like split personality...

I feel blessed that I never had to go through what he did...and quite frankly, I think he needs some major help. Hopefully he never did anything to anyone else, but I guess we won't find out.

joecnt74 is right about how awful that would be for the other parents. They will live the rest of their lives with a big hole torn in their hearts.

[GotheriK]

Who would have guessed they lived in a trailer park? :rolleyes:

[Karly]

Who would have guessed they lived in a trailer park? :rolleyes:

yeah cuz pedos dont ever live in upscale neighborhoods.

[Nocturnal]

You're absolutely right. We should let the animals in prison do that. :)

While I can't say I'd shed a tear over that occurence, I don't believe we should let mob justice handle that sort of thing. If we as a people agree (or at least those in that state) that these people should be killed, that is our decision. To simply give them life and allow other bad people to do our dirty work is not justice.

[Dayve]

I would have all 3 killed instantly, and the parents of the three put to death also for bringing them up so badly that they've gone on to do something so horrible.

Where was the god you Americans love so much when this little boy was getting his ass raped over and over for days and days?

Support the death penalty, kids.

[chalupa]

I would have all 3 killed instantly, and the parents of the three put to death also for bringing them up so badly that they've gone on to do something so horrible.

Where was the god you Americans love so much when this little boy was getting his ass raped over and over for days and days?

Support the death penalty, kids.

fixed: Where was the god you crazy conservative fundamentalist Americans love so much when this little boy was getting his ass raped over and over for days and days?


No, not all conservatives are fundamentalists, but all fundamentalists are conservatives. Its a Venn Diagram...

[evilmittens]

While I can't say I'd shed a tear over that occurence, I don't believe we should let mob justice handle that sort of thing. If we as a people agree (or at least that state) that these people should be killed, that is our decision. To simply give them life and allow other bad people to do our dirty work is not justice.

Very well said Nocurnal. VERY well said. I am going to look at Bidens site now, if he attracts people who can think like that.

[AsHopeDies]

oh it was on web sites- trust me if this kid was blue eyed and blonde- there would have been an all out man hunt with 20 million fuckin news programs discussing the case. he didnt matter because his last name was Barrios- plain and simple.

And who exactly would this man hunt be for again? The people who are already in custody and their capture is what led to us even knowing these details? Good point :rolleyes:

actually because of their crimes they just may be placed alone in order to assure "their safety". my whole issue with this isnt whether or not they will face justice- i'm sure in soem way they will, none that would suit me of course- but the fact that the media didnt cover this they way they have the missing boy scouts case.

So they didn't cover a case about a murder that happened a while ago in the same manner that they covered an on-going search for a lost boy in the mountains? Again...good point :rolleyes:

If there ever is a feeling like racism is leaking out of my life, it never fails that people go out of their way to make shit like this up to get it right back in the forefront.

[whocares]

Dont worry about where the fuck I live you fuckin pedophile, thats its isnt it- you and your dad do this together, it helps you bond and shit?? Fuckin pedo's, you all deserve to die.
Woa, nice corelation. Assuming what Mugatu says it's true, just because his father is/was a pedophile, he is a pedophile too?

Nice logic there. :rolleyes:

It's a good thing to know that you don't really have any sort of authority to decide who deserves to die and who doesn't.

I'm positive that if given the chance your dear old daddy will in fact molest another child, that isnt a crime you commit "by mistake".
You are positive? WOW! How can you be so sure?

True, that's a crime that isn't commited by mistake. But I don't see who said that this crime could be commited by mistake? :confused: I'm guessing that you got lost somewhere along the discussion.

[snyderman]

And who exactly would this man hunt be for again? The people who are already in custody and their capture is what led to us even knowing these details? Good point :rolleyes:

Culprits apprehended aside, who got more press when the murder first hit the news - Christopher Barrios or JonBenet Ramsey? Which murder would you consider more heinous, and therefore newsworthy?



So they didn't cover a case about a murder that happened a while ago in the same manner that they covered an on-going search for a lost boy in the mountains? Again...good point :rolleyes:

There is plenty of time on plenty of news shows. Everyone talks about the missing Boy Scout, Christopher is swept under the rug.

Racism sucks either way it goes, but c'mon, man. Can you believe this is not the biggest news story in the country?

If I didnt post this story, would anyone here know about it?

[Karly]

Given the fact that mugutu stated children having "soft supple skin" in this thread and considering the subject at hand- yeah I will label him a pedo. Secondly no one ever did say this type of crime was committed by mistake- I said that because sexual predators have the highest repeat offense numbers. They know what they are doing- these arent crimes of passion or of self defense. Jessica Lunsford is having a law named for her, what about this lil boy? Who remembers him? No one, the media who was too busy discussing the lil white boy scout who was missing. However Jessica Lunsford had countless amounts of shows discussing her case even after her killer was found, they still had Larry King Live specials- why then- if the offenders had already been caught?? Get real.

[unearth]

Reading this story actually made me nauseous. I can't believe people like this exist. These people are pure evil.

[evilmittens]

Wait until your a father Unearth. It goes from making you sick to actually feeling like you get punched in the stomach.

[silverspade14]

I would pay $100 for the opportunity to put a bullet in each one of their stomachs.

[lordfarquad]

wait.. is incest illegal????

[BurkeWorld]

wait.. is incest illegal????

Not for you, please keep banging your sister.

Perhaps the offspring will one day terrorize Tokyo.

Burkey

[AsHopeDies]

Culprits apprehended aside, who got more press when the murder first hit the news - Christopher Barrios or JonBenet Ramsey? Which murder would you consider more heinous, and therefore newsworthy?

One could easily argue that it's more of a class issue than a race issue. And how on Earth can you lead this point with "culprits apprehended aside"? That is ignorant on so many levels. For starters, my point was directly based on apprehended culprits and furthermore, JonBenet's culprit is still not apprehended. Long story short, the manhunt makes much better news then the sob story.

There is plenty of time on plenty of news shows. Everyone talks about the missing Boy Scout, Christopher is swept under the rug.

You've completely bought into the media that you are so adamantly attacking. The only way any of us know about it is because of the media and you are engaging in a pissing contest over what gets more press, attacking the media over the amount of press given to a certain topic, that's completely asinine. You are basically saying "the media sucks" and "I'm pissed that this didn't get more media" at the same time. Why would you want so much attention from something you obviously think sucks?

Racism sucks either way it goes, but c'mon, man. Can you believe this is not the biggest news story in the country?

If I didnt post this story, would anyone here know about it?

I read about it before you posted it so yes, I'd say it's safe to say that most here would know about it, if they had any interest in news.

Jessica Lunsford is having a law named for her, what about this lil boy? Who remembers him? No one, the media who was too busy discussing the lil white boy scout who was missing. However Jessica Lunsford had countless amounts of shows discussing her case even after her killer was found, they still had Larry King Live specials- why then- if the offenders had already been caught?? Get real.

Congrats, you have made it perfectly clear that you have a strict agenda here, good job. The simple fact that, while bitching over media coverage of all things, you would be pissed because the "lil white boy scout" got too much coverage, just shows your stance. To have this pissing contest over media coverage shows you're worried more about your agenda and less about the situation at hand. To trivialize a child lost in the mountains with hundreds of people searching like mad to find him before he dies like this is completely insulting. You grasp so strongly to the moral high ground and yet you say shit like that? Who do you think you are? And why in God's name is your concern here about the media coverage?

You speak of these horrible events as if they were hypothetical events that you are asked to rank. The problem here is the murder of children in completely horrendous ways. The solution is justice and future prevention. This causes so many concerns and questions and future actions and you are worried about media coverage? Give me a break, work on your fucking priorities.

[Karly]

You know ashope, if you read alll my posts you would see I wrote that I wasnt trying to lessen any case whatsoever- all I would like to see is fair coverage of all children, cause I think- just maybe- it isnt only white children who get kidnapped and murdered, but if we went by what the media shows only white folk have to worry about their kids. Every other child is free to roam safely.

[unearth]

I am so disgusted by this case simply because his mother was in on it- how can you even allow that? Where is the outrage in the media over that fact?? The one person who is supposed to protect him is the one who allowed his abuse and death, in all honesty this child is better off in the next life.


It wasn't the boy's mother, it was the mother of the previously convicted molester who was in on it. The mother, father and son of one family abducted Barrios.

[æcvfootball10æ]

He has been free to molest. I never turned him in... I forgave him and gave him a chance to turn his life around. Only one time did he try it but I cried alot and he appologized almost immidiately. Hes been good ever since. I could say you deserve to die for showing no mercy and thus being sub human. Hitler.

I think mugato was the victim of his molesting father

[Karly]

It wasn't the boy's mother, it was the mother of the previously convicted molester who was in on it. The mother, father and son of one family abducted Barrios.

wow-i totally read that wrong- thanks- however my stance remains unchanged. kill em all.

[AsHopeDies]

You know ashope, if you read alll my posts you would see I wrote that I wasnt trying to lessen any case whatsoever- all I would like to see is fair coverage of all children, cause I think- just maybe- it isnt only white children who get kidnapped and murdered, but if we went by what the media shows only white folk have to worry about their kids. Every other child is free to roam safely.


Nice over generalization, that's really pushing for equality. Why deal with the fact that this was reported in the media, otherwise none of us would know about it. Why deal with the fact that I see news daily about good and bad things that deal with people of a wide variety of races. Why deal with those things when it's much easier to say that watching the news shows "only white folk have to worry about their kids. Every other child is free to roam safely." Come on, do you seriously think that? Do you watch the news?

Regardless of me going back to read all of you other posts, I can see clear as day the one that says "the media who was too busy discussing the lil white boy scout who was missing." If that's not lessening a case, I don't know what is.

My point is this, I could spend all day listing the things that the media should or shouldn't cover more of. That spans far beyond race boundaries. To make this a race issue is quite a stretch in my opinion. And furthermore, it's so far from the pressing issues with any of these cases. If a white kid stubbed his toe and it was front page news while minorities were dropping like flies with literally no news coverage then sure, you'd have a more valid point. But I can't help but label this current gripe a simple pissing contest. And the worst of it all to me is that it's not important here. Not only do you imply that the cases they do cover aren't as important, therefor trivializing them, but you trivialize this case as well. This case is one of the worst things I've heard of ever. A very sad thing for this boy and his family/community and a very scary thing for the world that a family of three could engage in something like this is monstrous and almost beyond belief. To break it down to an argument over media coverage is an injustice to this little boy. It's much, much more important then that. One could argue that it's worse then the boy lost in the mountains and Jon Benet, but one could just as easily argue that it isn't as "news worthy" considering the specifics of the situation. This is just horrible news to me, a total downer. While the Jon Benet case and the current case of the boy lost in the mountains are more "pressing" and "news worthy" because they are on-going, or were on-going. There is a manhunt or a childhunt as it were lol. That's what keeps people watching and reading. Anything else is just a report of a shitty thing that happened. Is that important? Absolutely. Is that worthy of lengthy coverage on television news? Not really, what the hell are they going to keep talking about?

[rand0m]

Random I can get your logic and all but seeing as how I have worked with children my whole life and I have my own- anyone who harms a child deserves nothing short of death. Why should they be allowed to breathe the same air? No thanks, kill em all.

See you've become emotionally attached to the childish figure.

Yet you completely disregard any mental illness that could lead this this sort of behaviour.

You completely disregard the actual terms of the events.

To simply label any one that is involved in with minor as a peodophile and sentance them to death is simply outragous.

Wait you even mention anyone that even harms a child should die. Are you fucking serious? I've seen too many cases of children been brought up on a hippy culture 'no smacks, no telling off, lets just talk to them' and i can assure you that only produces the most disgusting revolting children.

Look at this innocent child ... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL_U4QYYJmc)

[Karly]

Random- this isnt about how people discipline their own children, so making that argument is retarded to say the least. This is about children being sexually abused and molested- way off from how ppl choose to discipline their spawn. As far as someone being put to death for harming a child- I am 100% for it. Children are innocent and just because some mom doesnt know how to make her kid behave doesnt lessen the fact that a child is a child and has no grasp on how to control their emotions- that is where parents and caregivers come in. This is about the lack of media coverage for children of color. If no one can see it then you are just living in your own ignorant realm.

[Kyle]

This is why I support the death penalty 100 percent.

Ok, get this straight, two wrongs don't make a right. Taken one life away, using tax dallors is completely stupid and worthless. How about this? We stick them into a prison, where they will be raped and stabbed for minimal cost to tax payers and the government. That is a good penalty. The system works!

I would rather give them the shittiest life imaginable then kill them. Death is a form of mercy. I say make our prisons a hell on earth. Give people like this just enough food and water to barely survive and make them listen to K-fed cds all day long.

They are still human. Realize that starving them and giving a severe lack of nutrition is inhuman. That is despicable.

if ur dad was a pedo he deserves to die too. there is NO rehabilitating a monster. they all deserve to die, with what they have done and taken away from a child they deserve nothing less than a slow tortuous grueling death.

No. No living thing deserves a slow painful death. Listen, pedophiles are attracted to little children. Just as we are attracted to females/males/transvestites, we can't judge a man based on his sexual preference. If he/she likes children, then they like them.

What else do you call someone whos stupid? Special Needs? I only called you an idiot after I made my point as well. Idiot. Besides its not my problem... I didnt kill anyone and Im Christian.. you make it sound like Im responsible for my faiths sins. By that logic your just as guilty as the child rapist because hes American too.

At first I felt bad for you. Kind of seeing life from your perspective, taking the Atticus Finch perspective and "walking around in your skin." I also thought you were banned for your opinion and typed up a nice rant about that and the harshness of the boards. But I now see how incapable you are to show intelligence in the least.

The fact that he is American is completely irrelevant to the situation at hand. It isn't like America is based on the fundamentals that pedophilia is right, in fact we have many, many laws against it.

Nice over generalization, that's really pushing for equality. Why deal with the fact that this was reported in the media, otherwise none of us would know about it. Why deal with the fact that I see news daily about good and bad things that deal with people of a wide variety of races. Why deal with those things when it's much easier to say that watching the news shows "only white folk have to worry about their kids. Every other child is free to roam safely." Come on, do you seriously think that? Do you watch the news?

Regardless of me going back to read all of you other posts, I can see clear as day the one that says "the media who was too busy discussing the lil white boy scout who was missing." If that's not lessening a case, I don't know what is.

My point is this, I could spend all day listing the things that the media should or shouldn't cover more of. That spans far beyond race boundaries. To make this a race issue is quite a stretch in my opinion. And furthermore, it's so far from the pressing issues with any of these cases. If a white kid stubbed his toe and it was front page news while minorities were dropping like flies with literally no news coverage then sure, you'd have a more valid point. But I can't help but label this current gripe a simple pissing contest. And the worst of it all to me is that it's not important here. Not only do you imply that the cases they do cover aren't as important, therefor trivializing them, but you trivialize this case as well. This case is one of the worst things I've heard of ever. A very sad thing for this boy and his family/community and a very scary thing for the world that a family of three could engage in something like this is monstrous and almost beyond belief. To break it down to an argument over media coverage is an injustice to this little boy. It's much, much more important then that. One could argue that it's worse then the boy lost in the mountains and Jon Benet, but one could just as easily argue that it isn't as "news worthy" considering the specifics of the situation. This is just horrible news to me, a total downer. While the Jon Benet case and the current case of the boy lost in the mountains are more "pressing" and "news worthy" because they are on-going, or were on-going. There is a manhunt or a childhunt as it were lol. That's what keeps people watching and reading. Anything else is just a report of a shitty thing that happened. Is that important? Absolutely. Is that worthy of lengthy coverage on television news? Not really, what the hell are they going to keep talking about?

I have to say that after reading every post in this topic, this is the only one I actually agree with. Good job, and well positioned. :)

[Devastation]

I disagree. People that are that dangerous to society need to be taken out. However, I also disagree with the death penalty the way we have it now. 15 years and a painless shot? Fuck no. Bring back the guillotine, firing squad, and a good rope, and execute them the day after their sentencing.

[Karly]

I disagree. People that are that dangerous to society need to be taken out. However, I also disagree with the death penalty the way we have it now. 15 years and a painless shot? Fuck no. Bring back the guillotine, firing squad, and a good rope, and execute them the day after their sentencing.

I concur. At least someone here gets it. As for pedos being attracted to children- no thats not it- sexual offenses have nothing to do with sex- it has to do with power and sadly children are the most vulnerable in society, and dont compare it such as it just being a "preference", its not a preference, its despicable and they need to be hung.

[æcvfootball10æ]

I disagree. People that are that dangerous to society need to be taken out. However, I also disagree with the death penalty the way we have it now. 15 years and a painless shot? Fuck no. Bring back the guillotine, firing squad, and a good rope, and execute them the day after their sentencing.

couldn't agree more.

[MooCowzRock]

Ok, get this straight, two wrongs don't make a right. Taken one life away, using tax dallors is completely stupid and worthless. How about this? We stick them into a prison, where they will be raped and stabbed for minimal cost to tax payers and the government. That is a good penalty. The system works!

It works to an extent...I do believe prisons should be harsher for everyone, though. For too many, it is too easy and because of it, hardly a deterrent...

[Karly]

The system doesnt work when it comes to protecting children. You get more time behind bars for drugs than you do for molesting a kid. Also when you have a pedo in prison they place them where they will be in the least amount of danger. Basically the protection that the child didnt have from the monster is granted to them behind bars. Its sickening and the system doesnt work when it comes to protecting our children. That is why I believe in homemade justice, fuck the system.

[whocares]

The system doesnt work when it comes to protecting children.
You could also say that it doesn't work when to comes to protecting everyone in general.

You get more time behind bars for drugs than you do for molesting a kid.
A way too big punishment for doing drugs.

That really does not make sense.

And drugs should be legal.

Also when you have a pedo in prison they place them where they will be in the least amount of danger. Basically the protection that the child didnt have from the monster is granted to them behind bars.
As long as the pedos are in a jail and can't do any harm should be enough for you.

Its sickening and the system doesnt work when it comes to protecting our children.
Nor does it work to protect regular citizens from gangs and shit.
That is why I believe in homemade justice, fuck the system.
"fuck the system"? Hahaha! You are so bad.

Anyway, how does "homemade justice" protect children better than the system? "Homemade justice" is another word for revenge... either way, it won't work to protect children.

[Synch]

See, i dont think the death penalty is reasonable here. I say put 'em in a tiny room, to short to stand, not wide enough to lie down in.

That would certainly be deemed as a cruel and unusual punishment by the ICJ, no hope there.

[Karly]

Homemade justice is what we in my family believe in. The people in society who need the most protection are our children, and the laws protecting them should be harsher and no just because a pedo is behind bars is not good enough for me- they should be mixed in with the regular population rather than seperately so they can be "protected". Thats a load of bullshit.

[david_slupper]

Ok, get this straight, two wrongs don't make a right. Taken one life away, using tax dallors is completely stupid and worthless. How about this? We stick them into a prison, where they will be raped and stabbed for minimal cost to tax payers and the government. That is a good penalty. The system works!


And spend 100X more of tax payers money by feeding and housing these inhumane beasts? Sorry, but your logic here makes no sense.
Besides, if they were to go to prison they would get separated from the general population so that they aren't hurt. Sorry to break it to you but the system doesn't work.


No. No living thing deserves a slow painful death. Listen, pedophiles are attracted to little children. Just as we are attracted to females/males/transvestites, we can't judge a man based on his sexual preference. If he/she likes children, then they like them.


Yes, that's why they should be locked away where they won't have the chance to hurt anybody. We live in a society where we protect our children from any sexual molestation, and if pedos can't help themselves, then they have no business walking free among us.
Btw, what you're saying here amounts to defending their actions and needless to say is plain disgusting.

[Karly]

I have a feeling this Kyle person is someone back from the dead.
And thank you sluppy for seeing it the way it really is.

[Quick_Draw21]

Ok, get this straight, two wrongs don't make a right. Taken one life away, using tax dallors is completely stupid and worthless. How about this? We stick them into a prison, where they will be raped and stabbed for minimal cost to tax payers and the government. That is a good penalty. The system works!

So throwing them into the general prison populace to get raped, tortured, and killed is right? Thats not justice whatsoever. They should be sentenced for their crime and the punishment should be carried out no matter how you feel emotionally about this case.

Personally I believe that anyone who willingly and purposefully murders someone should be killed. You can claim its wrong all you want but I don't think so. I'm not talking about costs or whatever, I'm talking about justice being served.

[Mr. Heskey]

Ok, get this straight, two wrongs don't make a right. Taken one life away, using tax dallors is completely stupid and worthless. How about this? We stick them into a prison, where they will be raped and stabbed for minimal cost to tax payers and the government. That is a good penalty. The system works!



They are still human. Realize that starving them and giving a severe lack of nutrition is inhuman. That is despicable.





Two wrongs don't make a right? You're the one who wants them to get beat up in prison which is wrong too. In all honesty if I was fairly young, I would choose death over the last 50 years of my life in prison taking it up the ass. Death really is the easy way out.

But how the hell does keeping them in prison save us taxes? I'm fairly ignorant on the subject but it's not like you have to pay expenses for a dead person...right?

[OE800]

But how the hell does keeping them in prison save us taxes? I'm fairly ignorant on the subject but it's not like you have to pay expenses for a dead person...right?

i forgot exactly how much it is to kill someone but its very exspensive, i kinda doubt it costs more than letting them die naturally though.

[Dayve]

Ok, get this straight, two wrongs don't make a right.

Putting to death pedophiles is not wrong, especially when such horrible acts are committed.

Tell me exactly how putting these people to death is wrong.

[æcvfootball10æ]

well everyone hates childmolestors and this is true in the prison community too. They will be skull fucked to death by 6 people within 5 days of being there.

[Mr. Heskey]

Putting to death pedophiles is not wrong, especially when such horrible acts are committed.

Tell me exactly how putting these people to death is wrong.

There's nothing wrong at all. I've always hated "an eye for an eye makes everyone blind" blahblah.

It worked for ghandi, we're not going to make it work for scum like these people.

[Dayve]

There's nothing wrong at all. I've always hated "an eye for an eye makes everyone blind" blahblah.

It worked for ghandi, we're not going to make it work for scum like these people.

Exactly, it's crap. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of good old fashioned pitchfork lynchmob justice where it is neccesary, and i think in this case it is extremely fucking neccesary.

I probably spelled neccesary wrong... I always do.

[JaneEyre]

I have got to agree. The Jessica Lunsford case was similar, but not to this horrendous degree. You cant turn on the TV without hearing about her. She has the Jessica Lunsford Act being pushed by none other than Bill O'Reilly.

Christopher Michael Barrios has only some internet attention. :wah:

Dont believe it? Google the two names.

Jessica Lunsford got her own Act because they had to change a law for Couey (the monster her raped and killed her). Because Couey was was a registered sex offender with an address but moved two blocks away and didn't report it, the police (when looking for Jessica) went to the house where she was being kept hidden, while she was being raped and tourtured, kocked on the door. Couey's sister came to the door and said "Nope, I don't know where he is"

It didn't have to do with how bad the offense was, but it changed the law to say that sex offenders who move HAVE to notify local law enforcement within a certain amount of days. This has nothing to do with the vicitms, it has to do with protecting the "victims yet to come."

It's well documented that the blonde/blue eyed girls get media attention...but if thats what it takes to pass legislation and get these monsters off the street. I'm all for it. Look at Dru Sjodin...she was the poster child for sex offenders (blonde/blue eyed female). And the Justice Department's Sex Offender site for tracking all sex offenders in the US carries her name.

But a lot has to do with the parents. We only know Adam Walsh becuse of his dad. Mark Lundsferd went to congress and got in front of the press almost every day. Dru's mom wrote a letter a day to her congressional leaders, she was in front of the camera all the time. It's those things that bring attention to the cases of their kids.