What's the best sportscar for ~100K USD?

[m11a1]

For me, power doesn't matter too much, I want the best handler, and looks too. So, what do you guys think?

[Spank666]

For me, power doesn't matter too much, I want the best handler, and looks too. So, what do you guys think?

Where in the shiny hell did you get $100K?

No matter what, my answer will be a Porsche, just as a warning.

[m11a1]

From work....

Dude, what model? I'm looking at a 2004/5 Turbo. What do you think?

Oh, and I will be considering used supercars too.

[Skiptomylue]

acura NSX..
Chevy z06 Vette

[Spank666]

911 Turbos are all-around great cars. I would reccomend test driving one and seeing for yourself, but I can almost guarantee you will like it.

As for a good deal, if I had 90 grand, I would jump on this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-Porsche-GT2-Euro-Club-Sport-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ200092040707QQcategoryZ10156QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem) in a heartbeat. 911 GT2s are simply fucking awesome.

[Nocturnal]

Don't care about power? go with a lotus :)

[PitwrkzZ1]

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/3141-2.jpg
Noc is smart :)

[MyBike]

My right foot would like to have sex with a 911 Turbo.

[some_ugly_guy]

911 Turbos are all-around great cars. I would reccomend test driving one and seeing for yourself, but I can almost guarantee you will like it.

As for a good deal, if I had 90 grand, I would jump on this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-Porsche-GT2-Euro-Club-Sport-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ200092040707QQcategoryZ10156QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem) in a heartbeat. 911 GT2s are simply fucking awesome.

You wouldn't get that 911 with $90k anyway.

[Salar]

Lotus Elise like others said. Plus you would have extra cash to spend on modifications if you ever felt the need for power.

[break3r]

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/

[babaganoosh]

Hands down 2006 z06 Corvette

Josh

[pinoyazn]

Porsche For the Win.

[enzo]

From work....

Dude, what model? I'm looking at a 2004/5 Turbo. What do you think?

Oh, and I will be considering used supercars too.

My cousin has a 911 turbo (05 I believe). I have rode in a good amount of sports cars, from camaro's to BMW coupes to corvettes, but NOTHING came close to the one he had. When he floored it, it actually THREW me back in my seat, the first time I ever experienced that in a car. He got a used one with some good mods on it for about 120k, so it was a good deal. That car is a beast.

I'de recommend it even though power isn't your main choice (since it is a great all around car). Another good one is the BMW 6 series or the M5, more luxury with sports performance. Corvette Z06 is also very nice.

[ahaga]

I'll say Z06 as well

[Watusa]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8140/maseratigransportlk2.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4163/maseratigransport2pr3.jpg

Or the Spyder version if that's your taste.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5875/2006maseratigransportspnj9.jpg

Maserati GranSport. Not too many people drive them, so you will stand out rather than driving a Corvette.

[Sylvestre]

R8

nuff said

[Spank666]

You wouldn't get that 911 with $90k anyway.

Did you look at the link at all?

[L4NC3R]

Why not a Civic with 100k of modifications on it?


But seriously... I'd look into Vette Z06 or Viper SRT-10.

[clutch-monkey]

lotus or noble M15....
failing that, elfin streamliner

[some_ugly_guy]

Did you look at the link at all?

Do you not know what a "reserve not met" means?

[m11a1]

Do you not know what a "reserve not met" means?

Dude, I can find and get a 911 Turbo for under 100K, just used. That's all.

[Meio]

Ultima GTR. Almost a perfect match for your budget. $89k for the rolling chassis delivered, leaving you 11k to source a decent engine and transmission.

[elliott678]

Ultima GTR. Almost a perfect match for your budget. $89k for the rolling chassis delivered, leaving you 11k to source a decent engine and transmission.What about labor and all the other odds and ends to turn it into a car.

[Spank666]

Dude, I can find and get a 911 Turbo for under 100K, just used. That's all.

And you should.

[Meio]

all the other odds and ends to turn it into a car.

Like what?

[elliott678]

Like what?
So it is 100% street ready if you add an engine and transmission? Also, what kind of transmission is needed, can you just stick anything that will bolt behind the engine you are using?

[Meio]

Yes and G50

[elliott678]

Yes and G50
What about wiring, linkages, cooling system, and everything else to make the motor work? Also, G50 = $5000 Used, there goes half of the engine/trans budget.

http://www.ultimagtr.ca/
Here is a guy that built one, it looks like he had to do a lot more than drop in an engine and transmission.

[Meio]

http://www.ultimagtr.ca/
Here is a guy that built one, it looks like he had to do a lot more than drop in an engine and transmission.

The kit comes in different stages, from a crate of bits to a full rolling chassis ( http://www.ultimacars.com/fra_pricing_ordering.htm. ), the link you sent was the former.

[1nf4m0u5]

Screw the Ultima, the most unpractical car to drive around in ever...get a Carrera of a Turbo and you can't go wrong.

[MyBike]

Cancel the Porsche vote. I vote for the Audi R8.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/55-2008-audi-r8.jpg

[Meio]

Screw the Ultima, the most unpractical car to drive around in ever...get a Carrera of a Turbo and you can't go wrong.

How is a Carrera more practicle than an Ultima?

[elliott678]

Also, Meio, could you assemble the car and make it run? Most shops wouldn't touch it and the ones that will would probably charge over $2000 to install the engine and transmission, then what happens when something goes wrong, good luck finding someone that will touch a custom car.

[tlovr]

V8 vantage
Atom (superchargered 1)
06 z06 is awesome too
M6(fast good looking and room)
LS2 GTO (put $6k in it: STS turbo/handling shit, and should be tons of fun) and the rest in the bank

[Meio]

Also, Meio, could you assemble the car and make it run? Most shops wouldn't touch it and the ones that will would probably charge over $2000 to install the engine and transmission, then what happens when something goes wrong, good luck finding someone that will touch a custom car.

I've never fitted a brand new engine before, but I can read instructions, and I have a phone (so I can phone the Marlows if it all goes pear shaped).

I know lots of shops that don't give 2 fucks where a car came from. Do you live in some kind of main dealership land or something?

[Spank666]

How is a Carrera more practicle than an Ultima?

A Carrera is built to be a luxurious performance car. It can go on the track, but its a very comfortable ride on the road as well. The Ultima is a kit car--it belongs on the track. Since I've never been in one, I can only speculate that you would not want to go on a drive of any significant distance in one.

[elliott678]

I know lots of shops that don't give 2 fucks where a car came from. Do you live in some kind of main dealership land or something?Liability issues, they are just covering their asses, most shops won't touch my car because of its age and the fact that it is modified, but I don't need them anyway.

Installing an engine and trans in a Ultima would fall under custom work and unless you have friends, custom work is expensive. I'm sure I could have it together and running in a weekend, but I have done custom engine swaps before.

[Danny Lee]

Pretty sad if you can't take on someone's car incase they sue you for leaving the heater controls on 3, thus causing hot air to be blown onto their feet and making their ride slightly uncomfortable.

[some_ugly_guy]

Dude, I can find and get a 911 Turbo for under 100K, just used. That's all.


No really? I can probably find a used 911 for 10k too but it probably doesn't run and only half of it is left.

[Perl_5]

For me, power doesn't matter too much, I want the best handler, and looks too. So, what do you guys think?

If i had that money I'd probably get either the mini cooper s john works package if it still exists, or the lotus elise.

The mini is a very funky car and is incredibly easy and fun to drive. The lotus has the handling of a fly but is not about the looks. I'd take both in a heartbeat if i could afford them.

[Spank666]

No really? I can probably find a used 911 for 10k too but it probably doesn't run and only half of it is left.

Or it would be from the early 70s, in decent condition, and runs fine. Besides, he said $100K, not $10K. For 100 large, you can buy a used 911 Turbo and still have money left over.

[some_ugly_guy]

Or it would be from the early 70s, in decent condition, and runs fine. Besides, he said $100K, not $10K. For 100 large, you can buy a used 911 Turbo and still have money left over.

You can buy ANY car for under $100k used, it just depends on it's condition.

For example:

2002 mint condition 911 turbo with 10149 miles, no problems: $110k

2002 in good condition 911 turbo with 100,000 miles, has some problems cosmetically and mechanically but still runs and great car: $65k


Do you see where I'm coming from???

[Meio]

A Carrera is built to be a luxurious performance car. It can go on the track, but its a very comfortable ride on the road as well. The Ultima is a kit car--it belongs on the track. Since I've never been in one, I can only speculate that you would not want to go on a drive of any significant distance in one.

Well speculations aside, I can find no evidence that the Carrera would be more practicle on the road.

'Luxury' is a different issue from practicality. The Carrera has a about a 65l luggage capacity which is this big:

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/pr/pro-action-65-litre-rucksack.jpg

The GTR has 2 side pods and other stowage areas which probably equates to about the same.

Fuel economy:

Carrera 16mpg (being generous)
GTR 25mpg (being generous)

what else were you thinking?

Ride?

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/gtr/usaroadtrip.html

By all the accounts I have read not too painful....

Anyway, whatever, you just keep thinking that the GTR must be a bag of shit because of your 'kit-car' prejudice.

[Spank666]

Well speculations aside, I can find no evidence that the Carrera would be more practicle on the road.

Thats why I speculate. I know quite well the practicality of Carreras on the road, but not much at all of that of the GTR. I'm not gonna lie, I'm biased when it comes to Porsches, but by no means did I ever imply that the GTR is a "bag of shit". A car meant solely for the track is hardly a bag of shit, unless of course I were calling one of my own cars a bag of shit.

Now, as far as that article goes, it claims nothing about how comfortable the ride is in the GTR, leaving me once again up to speculation. In the end, I'll still reccomend a Porsche anyway, because thats what I do. Any more useless arguments you'd like to throw my way?

[m11a1]

Well, don't mention kit cars because I'm getting the Ariel Atom.

Um...I don't know anymore, looks to me I can get nicer-looking cars for 150K.

[Sylvestre]

Cancel the Porsche vote. I vote for the Audi R8.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/55-2008-audi-r8.jpg

finally someone agrees with me

[m11a1]

Yea but the R8 isn't even available....yet.

[Spank666]

Um...I don't know anymore, looks to me I can get nicer-looking cars for 150K.

Well then, get yourself a nicer Porsche.

[Sylvestre]

Yea but the R8 isn't even available....yet.

well how soon do you need the car? The R8 is more than worth waiting for. Actually if you wait a couple more years then you could ge the V10 version.

[m11a1]

In a couple of months. I have all the time to wait and decide.

By the way, thanks guys for the tips.

[OE800]

i would get a1970 hemi charger (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-HEMI-426-CHARGER-R-T-GALEN-GOVIER-INSPEC_W0QQitemZ250098824855QQcategoryZ6199QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

[Sylvestre]

i would get a1970 hemi charger (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-HEMI-426-CHARGER-R-T-GALEN-GOVIER-INSPEC_W0QQitemZ250098824855QQcategoryZ6199QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

Ummm... he said handling, not straight line speed.

[Meio]

Thats why I speculate. I know quite well the practicality of Carreras on the road, but not much at all of that of the GTR. I'm not gonna lie, I'm biased when it comes to Porsches, but by no means did I ever imply that the GTR is a "bag of shit". A car meant solely for the track is hardly a bag of shit, unless of course I were calling one of my own cars a bag of shit.

Now, as far as that article goes, it claims nothing about how comfortable the ride is in the GTR, leaving me once again up to speculation. In the end, I'll still reccomend a Porsche anyway, because thats what I do. Any more useless arguments you'd like to throw my way?

You did imply that the GTR was a bag of shit, you just didn't state such opinion specifically.

For what it's worth, I'm biased against Porsches, for various reasons but the chief of which is probably that they seem to be bought by people with more money than imagination. They are estate agents' and middle managers' cars, a brand like Gucci.

[clutch-monkey]

You did imply that the GTR was a bag of shit.
he may well be right, cos it sure looks like shit :D
They are estate agents' and middle managers' cars, a brand like Gucci.
glad the old man is an estate agent then... GTR's are wog cars, fully sik uleh.

[turtleturtle]

No really? I can probably find a used 911 for 10k too but it probably doesn't run and only half of it is left.

There's one down the road from my place for $19K at a car dealership.

My parents bought one for under $16K

[Spank666]

You did imply that the GTR was a bag of shit, you just didn't state such opinion specifically.

Wrong again. I said it was a car that belongs on the track. So am I saying every car that belongs on the track is a bag of shit?

[Meio]

Wrong again. I said it was a car that belongs on the track. So am I saying every car that belongs on the track is a bag of shit?

Your implication that the GTR 'belongs on the track' is an implication that it is not road worthy and hence a bag of shit.

The GTR 'belongs on the track' as much as an Enzo Ferrari.

[Spank666]

Your implication that the GTR 'belongs on the track' is an implication that it is not road worthy and hence a bag of shit.

Answer my fucking question, dont dance around it. Am I or am I not calling all cars built for the track bags of shit?

[m11a1]

Hey spank, 2007 gt3 or 2007 turbo?

[Meio]

Answer my fucking question, dont dance around it. Am I or am I not calling all cars built for the track bags of shit?

Why are you insisting that the GTR is 'built for the track'?

[Spank666]

Why are you insisting that the GTR is 'built for the track'?

Good god, you are hopeless. Cant even answer a simple question. Until that question is answered, I'm done here.

Hey spank, 2007 gt3 or 2007 turbo?

Honestly, I havent gotten a chance to drive the 997s yet. Based on the 996s, I'd reccomend the GT3, although its a little rougher than the Turbo on the road. I said it before, and I'll keep saying it, go for a couple test drives, see which one you like best.

[Meio]

Good god, you are hopeless. Cant even answer a simple question. Until that question is answered, I'm done here.

I thought your initial question was rhetorical.

No I do not think you see all track cars as bags of shit.

You're turn.

[Spank666]

I thought your initial question was rhetorical.

No I do not think you see all track cars as bags of shit.

You're turn.

Well then, where is it implied that the GTR is a bag of shit? I claimed it to be a track car, which is simply my perception of it.

Why are you insisting that the GTR is 'built for the track'?

It holds the record for 0-100-0 by quite some margin, which is a statistic I would say comes in handy on the track. On the road, not so much. I cant say too much about the suspension, as I really dont know much about it, but I can assume its a pretty stiff suspension (one might say "race-inspired"), which is uncomfortable for everyday driving. At this point, the only thing stopping me from calling it a full-blown race car is that its street legal.

[Meio]

Well then, where is it implied that the GTR is a bag of shit? I claimed it to be a track car, which is simply my perception of it.

And from that I took the implication that it must be a bag of shit on the road, hence a bag of shit as a sportscar.

It holds the record for 0-100-0 by quite some margin, which is a statistic I would say comes in handy on the track. On the road, not so much. I cant say too much about the suspension, as I really dont know much about it, but I can assume its a pretty stiff suspension (one might say "race-inspired"), which is uncomfortable for everyday driving. At this point, the only thing stopping me from calling it a full-blown race car is that its street legal.

And this perceived implication has been confirmed.

[m11a1]

Honestly, I havent gotten a chance to drive the 997s yet. Based on the 996s, I'd reccomend the GT3, although its a little rougher than the Turbo on the road. I said it before, and I'll keep saying it, go for a couple test drives, see which one you like best.

..ah fine godamnit. BRB

[haun]

In a couple of months. I have all the time to wait and decide.

By the way, thanks guys for the tips.

get three 05' sti's man.

[m11a1]

get three 05' sti's man.

Nah man I don't need 3, one is fine. Did you ever get yours?

[haun]

Nah man I don't need 3, one is fine. Did you ever get yours?

im a poor college kid, not yet... it will be so soon though. do you have one?

[m11a1]

im a poor college kid, not yet... it will be so soon though. do you have one?

Nope, I have always wanted one though.

[haun]

get one with all this extra cash dude! screw exotics lol. just look at this man! how can you deny it?

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l216/jakehaun/DSC01714.jpg

[ThaiTanium22]

What exactly are you using this car for? The "best" $100,000 car varies depending on the environment it's being driven in.

[m11a1]

Just commuter car.

[Spank666]

Just commuter car.

In that case, dont get the GT3. Go for the 911 Turbo.

[clutch-monkey]

Based on the 996s, I'd reccomend the GT3,
i highly reccomend this too :raiseeyeb
Just commuter car.

In that case, dont get the GT3. Go for the 911 Turbo.
don't be soft, it's fine as a commuter car :ahhh:

[Spank666]

don't be soft, it's fine as a commuter car :ahhh:

Indeed, I wouldnt mind it at all. Its just a little rough for some people's likings.

[IhaveADD]

One word: Batmobile

[Lex]

C6 Z06 is the best value for money