Halo 3 Includes 3D Skies

[xeoset]

Last year a Bungie employee stated they have a new way in creating there skies in Halo 3, after you view this video from the Halo 3 Beta, you will be surprised.

It actually changes color depending on how high you go up in the air, Bungie also added cloud layers, simply astounding stuff Bungie added in Halo 3.

http://n4g.com/xbox360/News-41665.aspx

That was pretty amazing.

Using a 'sneak past the invisible wall' trick, you can fly a Banshee out of the map. Fly high and you'll be able to be in and/or above clouds (video as a reference) and finally, fly higher than all the clouds and you'll be able to see stars and such like you would if you did it IRL.

This could be great for the single player mode and the campaign itself. Expanding the third dimension and the realism of gaming is just another step forward.

[dtorre]

Let me just say that 1 the halo 3 beta was sorely disappointing to me....and 2 the 3d sky concept doesn't look too well done ((or all that original)).....hell my ps2 Top gun game could do the same thing

[Xerosnake90]

I agree that the beta is dissapointing. When I first started playing all I thought was "this is just another update, not a new game" and that stands. IT's the same as the transition from halo 1 to 2. There are just better graphics, a few new weapons, and different areas. Overall its the same game with new content. Pretty sad. I will not be buying this game, I never have bought halo, I doubt I ever will. Maybe if it's cheap and I need a new game.

[Finger Bib]

What would you like them to add to the beta to make it better? when a series of games gets to "number 3" it gets to the point where its just graphic update + new levels. except for GTA i guess.

[eprops]

You guys are haters. Halo 3 BETA is more fun than Halo 2 and just as fast as Halo. Graphics are a plus too.

Come to think of it, if it wasn't for online play, Halo 2 would of sucked so much balls.

[Xerosnake90]

I'm a hater because halo is the biggest overrated series ever. Everyone says it's so great. The only good thing is the online. If it didn't have that it'd be shit. And because the online is so much the same there's not much new. I might as well just put halo 2 into my 360 and download a patch they wish they could call 'halo 3'.

Fuck Halo! Gears of war ftw! With better main gameplay, a storyline, and online play that makes halo just another shooter.

[B-MetalSucks]

I can play the Halo3 beta but I tend to play Call of Duty 2 or 3. Halo is just not for me and the beta did nothing to change my mind about it.

[silverspade14]

What do 3D skies matter if you have to go outside of the map to be able to get high enough to see them?

[xeoset]

What do 3D skies matter if you have to go outside of the map to be able to get high enough to see them?

Think Campaign.

Earth to Ark to Space in a Banshee dog fight? Yes please.

[Xerosnake90]

You're acting like this is a huge gameplay feature. It's a layer of clouds. Who the fuck cares.

[xeoset]

You're acting like this is a huge gameplay feature. It's a layer of clouds. Who the fuck cares.

It expanded a dimension, why do that, something that's extra hard work when they could of used an invisible wall and used a 2D picture behind it instead. It's not a feature, it just adapts and improves old ones.

[Xerosnake90]

That's great and all, but clouds doesn't seem to impress me much in a game. I would rather have them make freakin amazing gun grapics or something else that'll blow my mind away not clouds. Like the rainy forest in gears, that is beautifull. The fighters in fight night, awesome detail. But clouds..... doesn't awe me enough.

I want better gameplay, not clouds XD

[LegendaryLink]

yeah it's really something the devs decided not to finish before the beta. You won't see anything like space to surface levels, trust me.

[Molson]

if you had any idea how these "layers" were made or what they were, you wouldnt be impressed at all. they are crap. now Just Cause, that has some fucking nice clouds that you can fly through and the most beautiful dynamic atmosphere ive ever seen in a game; and it is actually effects the gameplay.

[Electrify]

Does anyone know if Halo 3 will have a custom game search??? For me, that really killed the experience. Sometimes I wanted to play a certain map with a certain set of rules, but instead all I could do was select optimatch which would randomly throw me into a game with a bunch of cheaters, quitters, kids, etc. let alone the fact that you saw your hard earned level go down because of these external circumstances. If someone on my friend's list was playing a custom game than that was cool, except 9/10 times they were just 'glitching'.

[xeoset]

Does anyone know if Halo 3 will have a custom game search??? For me, that really killed the experience. Sometimes I wanted to play a certain map with a certain set of rules, but instead all I could do was select optimatch which would randomly throw me into a game with a bunch of cheaters, quitters, kids, etc. let alone the fact that you saw your hard earned level go down because of these external circumstances. If someone on my friend's list was playing a custom game than that was cool, except 9/10 times they were just 'glitching'.

It has both Matchmaking and Custom Games. How else would you use the Gravity Feature?

[rand0m]

Why couldn't they have made deformable terrain, or use the Eurphoria engine to control the rag doll, or put the new material properties into the physics engine so wood splinters and metal deforms.

[clutch-monkey]

Why couldn't they have made deformable terrain, or use the Eurphoria engine to control the rag doll, or put the new material properties into the physics engine so wood splinters and metal deforms.
x2, even if those features were limited
i mean how often do you look at the sky, and i mean actually focus on it - if you are it's usually because nothing is happening :D

[xeoset]

Why couldn't they have made deformable terrain, or use the Eurphoria engine to control the rag doll, or put the new material properties into the physics engine so wood splinters and metal deforms.

Bungie build a new Engine for all of their games.

Halo = HaloEngine
Halo 2 = HaloTwoEngine
Halo 3 = HaloThreeEngine
Marathon = Marathaon
...
...

It's how they play it out. They're not exactly shabby at it either, look at Halo 2, it was probably the most detailed game and most satisfying in terms of realism (Textures, etc). The water in the BETA looks amazing, they've got months to just tweak what was wrong with the BETA, stuff the extras and such in and then they can go nuts with physics and graphics.

But pumping a dead body full of Plasma Grenades and then watching it flail around like a wet fish in a Havok-esque kind of way was always as fun as hell. I hope Bungie keep that in.

[rand0m]

Halo = HaloEngine 1.0
Halo 2 = HaloEngine 1.2
Halo 3 = HaloEngine 1.3

Fixed it for you.

Halo 3 will utilize a proprietary, in-house graphics engine aptly named the "Halo 3 Engine".[citation needed] This engine builds upon the technologies of the Halo 2 Engine (and previously the Halo 1 Engine), and is re-optimized for the architecture of Xbox 360.

Halo 1 (http://files.xboxic.com/xbox/halo/halo1.jpg)

Halo 2 (http://www.armchairempire.com/images/Reviews/XBox/halo-2/halo-2-2.jpg)

Halo 3 (http://gameblog.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/halo3screen.jpg)

So far I am dissapointed with Halo 3, I was seriously hoping it they would "set a new high water mark for next-generation games."

However all they've done is increase polygon count, added new shader technology, HDR and a tweeked the AI and added new weapons/vehicles.

They seem to have take the term 'if i ain't broke, don't fix it' a bit too literally. I'm not saying Halo 3 is bad, I'm saying its just a Halo 1.3.

[OLIAX]

woopy fucking doo 3D skies all they did was put some objects into a skyzone

for example I could put 3D skies into a UT2004 map in seconds and make them rotate or change completely

old technology guys and a pretty lame attempt from bungie making it sound all technical and shit like it took them months to do

[JesusTheJedi]

Oh hey guys, this isn't something that's been done before.

Seriously, was this really worth a thread? It's nothing new, and it's nothing significant.

Just another reason Halo is overrated... People look at a feature and yell "OMG guys hey check it out! Halo has this!" and I have to shake my head, because it's almost always just something that's been done a thousand times before.

[LaquerHead]

No shit, In itself 3d skies is'nt anything particularly exciting or even new, but it gives a pretty strong hint that there will be some kind of big aerial section (campaign) otherwise they would'nt have bothered putting it in place.

As for the beta, if you did'nt like Halo 1 or 2, why do you suddenly think this is gonna change your opinion. Its more of the same with a graphical/sound upgrade and a couple of new weapons/features.

Gears has amazing graphics and a chainsaw, Halo shits all over it.

[rand0m]

How about some Volumetric Clouds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzVsA4_AxnE)

[kledster]

Why couldn't they have made deformable terrain, or use the Eurphoria engine to control the rag doll, or put the new material properties into the physics engine so wood splinters and metal deforms.

why can't you just find something better to do than always finding a way to criticize halo or the 360 in every halo/360 thread. seriously. you come off looking like such a bitter asshole because all you ever do is bitch and then suck sony's nuts. no offense but it's true. go read a good book or get some sunshine.

[Finger Bib]

Why couldn't they have made deformable terrain, or use the Eurphoria engine to control the rag doll, or put the new material properties into the physics engine so wood splinters and metal deforms.

because that would actually be cool and provide more than 3 seconds of entertainment

[rand0m]

why can't you just find something better to do than always finding a way to criticize halo or the 360 in every halo/360 thread. seriously. you come off looking like such a bitter asshole because all you ever do is bitch and then suck sony's nuts. no offense but it's true. go read a good book or get some sunshine.

Oh I'm sorry lets just all agree on everything and never debate.

Halo 3 is a dissapointment, not because it lacks anything new, but because Bungie spent the whole time developing the game producing blogs and having press releases saying how 'amazing' this game would be and how its going to push the boundaries of next generation games, when it isn't.

Look at Gears of War, graphically outstrips every other game out there.

Look at Battlefield: Bad Company, has a world 90% destructable.

Look at Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, it's using the Euphoria engine to its full capacity.

Look at Bioshock, it's taking emergent gameplay to the next level and its water graphics look fucking amazing.

Look at Quake Wars, thats using MegaTexture technology to create even more detailed expanded land.

Look at Fracture, the deformable terrain adds a whole new level to the gameplay.

Look at Hydrophobia, a fully fledged water physics engine!


I suppose I am bitching slightly about this game, but at least I'm bitching reasonably. I've never once stated Halo 3 is "ubercrap and ghey lololoL!!", I'm mearly giving my opinion to the game. Sure Bungie have created a good game which the online element seem to have alot of potential, I'm just a little pissed at how Bungie have promised all this 'next-gen' stuff and quite frankly produced something way behind time.

Halo 3 is turning out to be a good fun game, its just not opened everyones eyes graphically or gameplaywise.

[kledster]

I suppose I am bitching slightly about this game, but at least I'm bitching reasonably. I've never once stated Halo 3 is "ubercrap and ghey lololoL!!", I'm mearly giving my opinion to the game. Sure Bungie have created a good game which the online element seem to have alot of potential, I'm just a little pissed at how Bungie have promised all this 'next-gen' stuff and quite frankly produced something way behind time.

Halo 3 is turning out to be a good fun game, its just not opened everyones eyes graphically or gameplaywise.

i agree man but damn, don't be so goddamn biased all the time. everytime i come here you are always bashing 360 related things and nothing else. that's all you do. not that i really give a shit but after a while it gets kinda annoying.


you're always so concerned with halo3 not "living up to pushing the graphical boundaries". who fucking cares that much? people have always played halo because it's hella fun. and that's that.

[rand0m]

i agree man but damn, don't be so goddamn biased all the time. everytime i come here you are always bashing 360 related things and nothing else. that's all you do. not that i really give a shit but after a while it gets kinda annoying.

How am I been biased? Oh is it because Halo 3 is the Xbox 360 FPS to have?

No. I believe the Xbox 360 is getting some far far far better FPS than Halo 3.

Secondly I don't 'bash' the Xbox 360, sure i comment on some of its things, however I don't ever believe it is a inferor console, much like my counterparts here believe the Playstation 3 to be.

you're always so concerned with halo3 not "living up to pushing the graphical boundaries". who fucking cares that much? people have always played halo because it's hella fun. and that's that.

Did you read my post?

I'll repeat myself again.

Halo 3 is a dissapointment, not because it lacks anything new, but because Bungie spent the whole time developing the game producing blogs and having press releases saying how 'amazing' this game would be and how its going to push the boundaries of next generation games, when it isn't.

[xeoset]

Post upon Post.

One thing you fail to see is that Halo has many things that all these FPS's you bring up.

A decent story. How many FPS's make cryptic notes, dialogs and base an enigma of messages all based on the Bible alone? How many FPS's pull you in because they're essentially a playable book. Metroid Prime? Ooooohh...Space Pirates. CoD2? Ooooh, WWII. How many FPS's incorporate 4 books worth of information and make it work? A movie? Two graphic novels? A comic? Call it whoring a series all you like, they're all amazingly written and interesting. That's one thing nearly 90% of games lack, even RPG's, which is a good story.

http://halosm.bungie.org/story/news.html

^ There's just a web slot for theorists alone. Some from books, some from the games, some from both and some from neither. The community behind Halo, the Story of Halo, the Universe of Halo and the Gameplay of Halo make it a great game. Don't come up with crap to try and knock a great series of its pedestal when it's dishing out a shitload that other series CAN'T do. You can't make something that it hasn't got.

http://halowiki.net/p/Main_Page - Mainly a gameplay Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Bees - Remember the 'I Love Bees'?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28series%29 - A million links into the Halo Series/Universe

Read all of that and see why we all love Halo.

[The Machine]

oh MY GOD!!! there are CLOUDS IN HALO 3!@!! THIS IS AMAZING!!! REVOLUTIONARY!!! HOLY SHIT THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE THE BEST GAME EVER!! THIS IS EVEN BETTER THAN THE TOTALLY NEW CONCEPT CALLED DUAL WEILDING THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED INTO HALO 2!!! :ahhh: :ahhh:

[rand0m]

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I'm not denying some people will love the storyline, and its obvious you love this one. Whatever floats your boat.

(My opinion, a good story line is a bonus to a game, not a good game is a bonus to the story line)

[Nocturnal]

If you don't like the game don't fucking play it, you sound like fucking children with all this "wahhh, it's over rated blah blah blah".

You know what I think is over rated, Pepsi. I mean come on, if I don't like it clearly it's because the product itself is inferior. It has nothing to do with taste right?

[navid]

it needs 3D modeling on the bullets

[rand0m]

You know what I think is over rated, Pepsi. I mean come on, if I don't like it clearly it's because the product itself is inferior. It has nothing to do with taste right?

What jew on about?

People say Pepsi is inferior because of its taste.

[usefulidiot316]

What jew on about?

People say Pepsi is inferior because of its taste.

56% of the nation thinks diet pepsi has more flavor that diet coke. FACT

*disclaimer* I'm not part of that 56%

[rand0m]

What jew on about?!

chirst im confused.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

I don't know why people are complaining over a beta .. I liked it, because I've never played Halo 2 online and I found it very addicting. (never owned the original Xbox)

[Nocturnal]

56% of the nation thinks diet pepsi has more flavor that diet coke. FACT

*disclaimer* I'm not part of that 56%

coke zero and coke splenda take a huge dump on diet pepsi though

[Liberator13]

Pepsi > Coke

/thread

Oh... wait...

[ChocoChipCamo]

Pepsi > Coke

/thread

Oh... wait...

Yeah that's right, don't even -think- of ending this thread prematurely. We still have TONS of useless, petty and irrelevant things to complain and debate about!

For instance: Is anybody else finding the game lacking in the being-able-to-pick-up-grains-of-dirt feature? I just can't get immersed into a game that doesn't support something as simple as sand-sifting. Bullshit. Halo 3 will suck now. Discuss.

[Redddragon895]

You know, a couple of years ago I remember crap about graphics is the way to go. Now all I hear is "This game is the same as the last one. So what the graphics are new."

[rand0m]

I quite like Pepsi Max ...

[clutch-monkey]

I quite like Pepsi Max ...
that's because you're gay. seriously. it's been scientifically proven. or something. :uhoh: :raiseeyeb

[rand0m]

you're gay ...

[clutch-monkey]

you're gay ...

:wah:
you wish i was gay :raiseeyeb

[rand0m]

go drink pepsi max ... oh wait lol

[clutch-monkey]

go drink pepsi max ... oh wait lol
i've actually never had it before. i don't really drink coke and the like very much.

[OLIAX]

I think pepsi is definately better tasting :dunce:

[xeoset]

Pussies, go drink some water. Or battery acid, you know, man drinks.

[rand0m]

http://www.batterydrink.com/

mmmm battery

[usefulidiot316]

coke zero and coke splenda take a huge dump on diet pepsi though

Hell, I'd rather drink diet coke than any other cola. Accept maybe diet dr. pepper.

Hey, what ever happened to the pepsi generation?

[Nocturnal]

Pussies, go drink some water. Or battery acid, you know, man drinks.

90% of the time when I drink coke, it has whiskey in it. :D

[rand0m]

Why don't they sell Mountain Dew in Europe?

Man i loved that stuff.

[Reptilian]

Not that impressing
The clouds should not stay glued to the sky, you should be able to pass through them

[usefulidiot316]

Not that impressing
The clouds should not stay glued to the sky, you should be able to pass through them

What jew on about?!

Clouds and Pepsi?

[_ElitE_]

I belive 3d cloud modeling was done in Ace Combat on the ps2, you could fly right up into space. As well, ever heard of a game crysis? The enging featured DYNAMIC clouds which own Halo 3's linear clouds ( I didnt even see layers or 3d clouds). Really, nothing special.

[Wip3ou7xL]

2 words for this thread.

War, hawk.

[Deadsoul]

I'm filled with a strong sense of whoop-de-shit.

Coke ftw...

[_ElitE_]

I'm filled with a strong sense of whoop-de-shit.

Coke ftw...

Ya Coke>pepsi

[FuCkUp]

EVERY BODY'S GAY. HALOS SHIT. COKE > PEPSI. 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
MUHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHA

[ItchyItchyFace]

You know what would make Halo 3 really better?

Motion sensitive control.

[liquid jesus]

I'm a hater because halo is the biggest overrated series ever. Everyone says it's so great. The only good thing is the online. If it didn't have that it'd be shit. And because the online is so much the same there's not much new. I might as well just put halo 2 into my 360 and download a patch they wish they could call 'halo 3'.

Fuck Halo! Gears of war ftw! With better main gameplay, a storyline, and online play that makes halo just another shooter.

Hell Ye, someone finally showing some love for gears of war! Im still a halo fan but i think gears of war is alot better.

[dwarfer]

Nobody likes Halo anyway, Halo 1 was boring it was all fighting the same enemy. I never played Halo 2 (I should realy download it). But I'm sure Halo 3 will be equally as shit.

[duncdamonk]

Coke? Pepsi? Lets all be men here, Everclear ftw!

[Bartok]

Why is this anywhere near impressive? Flight simulators and various other games have been doing this for years.

I think Halo fanboys are just trying to find reasons that the new Halo is worth buying, since one and two were mediocre games at best. One of the most overrated series ever created.

[Nocturnal]

If you don't like it, don't fucking play it. Get a fucking life instead of spending time trying to convince everyone that your taste in a video game is the right one.

[Deadsoul]

Coke? Pepsi? Lets all be men here, Everclear ftw!

I kinda like my ability to have an erection, thanks. Anything over 100 proof assures three things; I will get sick, I will black out, I will wake up the next day next to a horrendous fatty.

[B-MetalSucks]

I kinda like my ability to have an erection, thanks. Anything over 100 proof assures three things; I will get sick, I will black out, I will wake up the next day next to a horrendous fatty.
Yeah but imagine how he feels.:bigwink:

[Nocturnal]

I kinda like my ability to have an erection, thanks. Anything over 100 proof assures three things; I will get sick, I will black out, I will wake up the next day next to a horrendous fatty.

Well, at least you know you couldn't get it up to actually do said fatty.

Everclear sucks, I don't like the buzz it gives you, too nuetral. Call me old fashioned but I can get pretty fucked up on 80-90 proof whiskey.

[msile]

Why doesn't anyone like the Halo series. First of all it is no where near bad. It has good graphics and good levels. Halo 3 will be awesome and the 3-d skies won't really help it.

[rand0m]

Why doesn't anyone like the Halo series. First of all it is no where near bad. It has good graphics and good levels. Halo 3 will be awesome and the 3-d skies won't really help it.

Urm ... fucking millions of people like it.

However its just not 'the best game ever' and for a FPS its ok.

[kohman77]

lame lame boring lame.
I prefer coke over pepsi by the way

[firepiss]

You're acting like this is a huge gameplay feature. It's a layer of clouds. Who the fuck cares.

amen to that.