Kevin Durant can't bench 185

[somechick121]

Just thought that needed its own thread. 6'10" 220 power forward, and he cant put up 185.

[drphil]

Good thing NBA players don't attract fatass women.

Seriously though, that's just pathetic....he should be doing that in High School.

[YankeesSuck]

What can he lift?

[AsHopeDies]

good thing he's not throwing barbells through the basket.

[Jay-Z]

Well the longer your arms are the harder it is to bench.

[somechick121]

What can he lift?

Dunno. All I know is that he failed to put up 185.

[Wu-tang]

Just thought that needed its own thread. 6'10" 220 power forward, and he cant put up 185.

Being taller would make it harder to lift that much(longer arms), and it is one of the reasons why he weighs 220.

Seriously though, that's just pathetic....he should be doing that in High School.

He basically is in high school; he's only 18.

good thing he's not throwing barbells through the basket.

QFT. I bet Kevin Durant would laugh at you trying to do basketball drills that he does with ease.

[somechick121]

Well duh, he's a professional athlete.

[High On PCP]

Well the longer your arms are the harder it is to bench.

Jay Z bench pressed the correctness.


Seriously though, I remember wrestling and the power lifting meets in high school... The smaller, shorter limbed guys could throw up a lot more weight than the taller, longer limbed guys who weighed the same could in the weight room. But the taller, longer limbed guys seemed more "athletically strong" on the mat in wrestling and the field when I played football.

Really though, what's a basketball player need high bench numbers for? A basketball weighs what, a pound? two pounds?

[somechick121]

6'8" 185 Corey Brewer put it up 11 times.

[drphil]

What about being physical in the paint? Shouldn't a PF be able to fight for rebounds, post up and just be more physical?

[Edgecrusher]

That's pretty sad.

Then again, it may be a combination of

a) long-ass arms
b) shitty technique

It's sorta understandable then, but still...c'mon. A
kid named Zach Krump on my football team can bench 500
fuckin' pounds...he weighs 200 pounds. Set the Oklahoma
record for HS bench.

Anyways, if he's gonna be a pro athlete and play with guys that
can bench double 185, he better get workin'. This ain't HS anymore.

[chengy]

Well you guys seem to be putting too much stock in work outs. He dominated the NCAA single handedly also Durant is NOT a power forward. He's a small forward does that change anything for you guys? Yes he will need to be stronger but he's a great basketball player so it doesn't matter. It would be an issue if Oden couldn't bench 185 lol.

[poopchow]

Well it was certainly one of the knocks against him personally, but nobody should be hating on him too much right now.

Its almost a relief to see someone that is weak, maybe because i cant bench anything near that.

He will bulk up so this just acts like a wake up call for him. For now it means he will have to try that much harder to play down low.

[somechick121]

It isnt even anything amazing for NBA players, its the standard at the combine (or whatever they call it). They dont look to see if you can do 185, its how many times you can. Aaaand Durant = 0.

[Nick is cool]

Well the longer your arms are the harder it is to bench.





This is true, but its still terrible. Hell i did 185 in 8th grade. Im not expecting him to rep 225 10 times or anything, but he should be able to do atleast 200. In basketball legs matter more then upper body but i bet he doesnt squat much either.

[somechick121]

As I said before, for comparison, Corey Brewer, who is 6'8" 185, put up 185 11 times. Durant has 2 inches and 35 pounds on him, and cant do it once.

And I bet his arms are relatively long.

[Wu-tang]

That's pretty sad.

Then again, it may be a combination of

a) long-ass arms
b) shitty technique

It's sorta understandable then, but still...c'mon. A
kid named Zach Krump on my football team can bench 500
fuckin' pounds...he weighs 200 pounds. Set the Oklahoma
record for HS bench.

Anyways, if he's gonna be a pro athlete and play with guys that
can bench double 185, he better get workin'. This ain't HS anymore.

I bet Zach Krump can't average 26 points per game in College Basketball though. :rolleyes:

Corey Brewer isn't and won't be as good as Kevin Durant. He also has 3 years on him. Shut the hell up and quit hating.

[somechick121]

Hey we arent talking about talent here, we're just talking about Durant needing to hit the weight room pretty badly.

[k_tull88]

As long as he's a good player, why does it matter what he can bench?

[L4NC3R]

Shaq benches 300lbs.

[somechick121]

Its alright Kevin, I cant bench 185 either.
We'll leave out the parts about me being a girl and being barely half your size.

[Fag Boy]

Its funny how you are all trying to defend him by making these horrible excuses. Thats like when people say LeBron shouldnt be blammed for not winning a title, becuase hes basically a college player right. So I take it you guys are all going to ignore the fact oden killed him in all the skill drills too?

[Nick is cool]

As long as he's a good player, why does it matter what he can bench?






no one knows if hes a good player, he hasnt played a nba game in his life


im pretty sure hes planning to be a PF, imagine him covering tim duncan. Most PFs will be able to back him down and score basically every time on him unless he gets a little strong

[PattyWackit]

I bet greg oden can put up nearly 300.

i'm 5'10 170ish and i can bench 185. IN YOUR FACE DURANT!

[bobtheflob]

Most guys hire personal trainers and prep for these workouts like there's no tomorrow. Obviously Durant didn't need to do that after the season he had, if he doesn't go in the top two then Seattle's GM should be publicly flogged.

[kingofallmedia]

I think this might be indicative of his rookie season. Take Kevin Garnett for example, he came into the NBA at around the same age (18 or 19) and he looked extremely skinny. He couldn't contend with stronger NBA players and didn't play well for his 1st couple of seasons. After he got used to it (not necessarily "bulked up" because he still looks skinny 11 years later) he became a superstar. Or players like Tayshun Prince, he looks EXACTLY like Durant and he took NO TIME adjusting to the NBA strength and style. So either way, even if it takes a year or 2, Durant will be alright.


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[illin' \/illain]

As I said before, for comparison, Corey Brewer, who is 6'8" 185, put up 185 11 times. Durant has 2 inches and 35 pounds on him, and cant do it once.

And I bet his arms are relatively long.

Hey we arent talking about talent here, we're just talking about Durant needing to hit the weight room pretty badly.

first of all, you should be gang-raped. furthermore, Brewer has a big advantage on Durant, his arms are shorter, shorter arms=easier time bench-pressing, alot easier. (i know this personally!) he's 18, he's a child, he will get stronger. also, i believe that being strong in basketball is over-rated, look at KG, he's fairly thin and he is an amazing basketball player.

[The Machine]

I saw a game of texas vs kansas, at kansas university stadium. Durant single handedly kept texas in the game, scored SEVERAL last second buzzer shots to keep texas going into TRIPLE overtime, and overall scored almost 40 points himself. At 18, he dominated in the NCAA, and only oden rivals him. It's funny to see some of you talk about how weak he is because he can't bench 185 (which most of you can't either), because he's a great basketball player and athlete.

[Edgecrusher]

I bet Zach Krump can't average 26 points per game in College Basketball though. :rolleyes:

Corey Brewer isn't and won't be as good as Kevin Durant. He also has 3 years on him. Shut the hell up and quit hating.


I bet Kevin Durant can't lead a top 20 HS football team
at Middle Linebacker, without getting his ass kicked.


:rolleyes:

[Nick is cool]

I saw a game of texas vs kansas, at kansas university stadium. Durant single handedly kept texas in the game, scored SEVERAL last second buzzer shots to keep texas going into TRIPLE overtime, and overall scored almost 40 points himself. At 18, he dominated in the NCAA, and only oden rivals him. It's funny to see some of you talk about how weak he is because he can't bench 185 (which most of you can't either), because he's a great basketball player and athlete.



We are saying hes so weak because he is. The defenders in ncaa dont even compare to the nba, and in the nba you actually have to defend, you cant just play offense. And you'd be suprised how many people can do 185, i bet most athletes here can easily do it.




I bet Kevin Durant can't lead a top 20 HS football team
at Middle Linebacker, without getting his ass kicked.


:rolleyes:






The only thing durant could do on a football team is block field goals with his 8 foot 9 wingspan

[somechick121]

first of all, you should be gang-raped. furthermore, Brewer has a big advantage on Durant, his arms are shorter, shorter arms=easier time bench-pressing, alot easier. (i know this personally!) he's 18, he's a child, he will get stronger. also, i believe that being strong in basketball is over-rated, look at KG, he's fairly thin and he is an amazing basketball player.

Two things. One, fuck you. And two, his arms arent that much shorter, he's only giving up two inches in height, I doubt the difference in wingspan is anything significant enough to have a real effect.

And nobody (well, almost nobody) is saying he isnt any good. All we're saying is that he's pretty damn weak for a professional athlete his size.

[Fag Boy]

I think this might be indicative of his rookie season. Take Kevin Garnett for example, he came into the NBA at around the same age (18 or 19) and he looked extremely skinny. He couldn't contend with stronger NBA players and didn't play well for his 1st couple of seasons. After he got used to it (not necessarily "bulked up" because he still looks skinny 11 years later) he became a superstar. Or players like Tayshun Prince, he looks EXACTLY like Durant and he took NO TIME adjusting to the NBA strength and style. So either way, even if it takes a year or 2, Durant will be alright.


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Yeah, and what has kevin garnett won in his career? Nothing has hasnt done shit, his team has only two playoff series, and they were in the same season.

Also i'm not sure why the hell you think prince is so damn good. He's averaged like 10 points and 5 rebounds since he came to the NBA. He dosnt domonate shit, maybe at Kentucky, but not in the NBA.

[Wu-tang]

I bet Kevin Durant can't lead a top 20 HS football team
at Middle Linebacker, without getting his ass kicked.


:rolleyes:

Kicking NCAA Basketball Ass >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything high school



The only thing durant could do on a football team is block field goals with his 8 foot 9 wingspan

And the only thing you(or anyone else here) could do in the NCAA Big 12 Championship is watch.

[sprak_]

Who cares if he can't bench 185. He's not an offensive lineman.

[Edgecrusher]

Kicking NCAA Basketball Ass >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything high school


Well, that's an opinion isn't it?

It's a fact that Kevin Durant is
weaker than a wet piece of paper.

[Wu-tang]

Well, that's an opinion isn't it?

It's a fact that Kevin Durant is
weaker than a wet piece of paper.

No it's not an opinion...For one, it takes more athletic ability and skill to play basketball than football. This is an opinion that nearly everyone will agree with. It's also an opinion that Basketball takes more skill and athleticism than powerlifting. But it's an opinion held by everyone not retarded and can't be argued against. Than it is an absolute fact that Collegiate sports are on a higher level than High School.

It's also a fact that Kevin Durant is 18 and is going into the NBA already.

[chengy]

Kevin Durant won't be a PF at least not right away. He has the range to be a strong SF and a dominant one at that why would you play into his weakness?

Why would the Sonics bother to let Rashard Lewis get away? Duh Durant is going to play that position. Stop with the PF stuff it's just pissing me now cause it's retarded. Yes he is tall and lengthy but he's quick and has tons of shooting range that you'd rather use him as an 3.

Don't look too much into combine work outs. They are work outs. Scouts have taken too many work out darlings and most turn into busts. Video doesn't lie and when you watch Durant you do see a guy who's good at 19 worthy of #1 any other year there is superstar talent like an Oden or a Lebron et al.

Durant will be good and he'll probably make a lot of money too...nobody cares if he can't bench squat and he's putting up 20 points a night which he is very capable of.

[Nick is cool]

No it's not an opinion...For one, it takes more athletic ability and skill to play basketball than football. This is an opinion that nearly everyone will agree with. It's also an opinion that Basketball takes more skill and athleticism than powerlifting. But it's an opinion held by everyone not retarded and can't be argued against. Than it is an absolute fact that Collegiate sports are on a higher level than High School.

It's also a fact that Kevin Durant is 18 and is going into the NBA already.




It definatley is an opinion.. big highschool football games are almost like college games, you cant really compare the 2 because im sure to some people playing highschool football is more important then college basketball and vise versca. To play basketball you have to be alot more skilled and coordinated then football, but this shows you can be as weak as a fly and still dominate.





Kevin Durant won't be a PF at least not right away. He has the range to be a strong SF and a dominant one at that why would you play into his weakness?

Why would the Sonics bother to let Rashard Lewis get away? Duh Durant is going to play that position. Stop with the PF stuff it's just pissing me now cause it's retarded. Yes he is tall and lengthy but he's quick and has tons of shooting range that you'd rather use him as an 3.

Don't look too much into combine work outs. They are work outs. Scouts have taken too many work out darlings and most turn into busts. Video doesn't lie and when you watch Durant you do see a guy who's good at 19 worthy of #1 any other year there is superstar talent like an Oden or a Lebron et al.

Durant will be good and he'll probably make a lot of money too...nobody cares if he can't bench squat and he's putting up 20 points a night which he is very capable of.





I think he should be a SF too but im pretty sure hes going to be a PF.

[sinner78]

Who cares if he can't bench 185. He's not an offensive lineman.

and he is in a non-contact sport.
A league which is over-officiated .
he wont have any problems.

[Burningnun]

Someone remind me how often you have to bench press 185 during the course of a game of bball.

[Papero]

Do anyone of you do 185? Just wondering, 185 would mean you're a pretty ripped guy and it's hardly pathetic, pathetic would be unable to bench 80lbs.

Someone said they could bench 185 in 8th grade, that's the biggest shit I've ever heard in my life, benching it once doesn't count as "I can do 185", no 13-14 year old boy can do 185 unless they're incredibly lucky genetically.

I bet I could do 230-240lbs once if I was properly rested, consumed the correct foods right before the feat and bounced it off my chest. Most guys you see doing 220-230lbs easily have 18-20" arms.

Just saying, you guys are really ragging on the guy.

[Nick is cool]

Do anyone of you do 185? Just wondering, 185 would mean you're a pretty ripped guy and it's hardly pathetic, pathetic would be unable to bench 80lbs.

Someone said they could bench 185 in 8th grade, that's the biggest shit I've ever heard in my life, benching it once doesn't count as "I can do 185", no 13-14 year old boy can do 185 unless they're incredibly lucky genetically.

I bet I could do 230-240lbs once if I was properly rested, consumed the correct foods right before the feat and bounced it off my chest. Most guys you see doing 220-230lbs easily have 18-20" arms.

Just saying, you guys are really ragging on the guy.





I dont really care if you believe me or not, as theres no way of showing you that i could do it, but me and a couple of other kids i knew could bench 185 when we were 14. Its not that big of a deal, go to a state powerlifting meet and you will see many 14 year olds doing over 200.

[gatorpatric0]

6'8" 185 Corey Brewer put it up 11 times.

Thats because Corey Brewer is a BAD ASS MOTHER FUCKER that has 2 championship rings. And he went to Florida. 3 Gators drafted in the Top 10. You watch!

Also...just found this:

Joakim Noah
What he did well: Noah stood an even 7 feet tall and considering he only weighs 223 lbs, did very well by performing 12 bench reps. He also had a very impressive 37.5’’ vertical leap.

12 Reps at 185 for a Taller, Just as skinny player. BOO DURANT.

[Fag Boy]

Someone remind me how often you have to bench press 185 during the course of a game of bball.

Everytime you go inside to grab a rebound, or when you when you go to block a shot so you dont get dunked on. I belive thats when it comes into play.

[gatorpatric0]

***Sidenote***

Maryland Guard D.J. Strawberry was the strongest at the combine benching 185 23 times. The next closest was Florida PF Al Horford with 20 reps.

Strawberry, A GUARD, benches the most. Pretty impressive.

On the other hand, Basketball players are just not as weight-room strong because of their height and reach. Most High School offensive linemen can put up 185 20 times easy...so these stats dont mean much to me.

[Nick is cool]

**

On the other hand, Basketball players are just not as weight-room strong because of their height and reach. Most High School offensive linemen can put up 185 20 times easy...so these stats dont mean much to me.







Yea.. basketball players put up 185 20 times, football players put up 225 40 times..

[varybarry]

The NBA trainers will get him strong... it might take a year or two though

[Papero]

I dont really care if you believe me or not, as theres no way of showing you that i could do it, but me and a couple of other kids i knew could bench 185 when we were 14. Its not that big of a deal, go to a state powerlifting meet and you will see many 14 year olds doing over 200.

I'm watching Youtube videos of these powerlifting meets and these 14 year olds are only doing it once, some twice.

That does NOT count, when you can do 200lbs 10 times at 14 then I'll be impressed.

My grandmother could do 180lbs once. This kind of shit gets my blood boiling, what use is it to say you can lift 200lbs when you can barely do it once. I guess it's just a pissing match.

There's a shit load of these videos, every single one ranging from 180-225, every 14 year old doing it once.



Edit: Meh I feel like an asshole, 185 at 14 is indeed impressive, I don't remember any 14 year olds in my class doing anything even close to that. I just can't see how people brag about doing weights they couldn't utilize anywhere but the bench a single pump.

[MexAmercn_Moose]

Yeah, and what has kevin garnett won in his career? Nothing has hasnt done shit, his team has only two playoff series, and they were in the same season.

Also i'm not sure why the hell you think prince is so damn good. He's averaged like 10 points and 5 rebounds since he came to the NBA. He dosnt domonate shit, maybe at Kentucky, but not in the NBA.

it doesn't matter that he hasn't done shit...he is still a very good player that is stuck in a shitty situation...he is probably the only player in the NBA that can be compared to Durant

[Burningnun]

football players put up 225 40 times..

You're a footballer right? This is a video I can't wait to see.

[somechick121]

The top football players do. Like, in the NFL. Linemen, some linebackers, etc. Big guys.

[Edgecrusher]

No it's not an opinion...For one, it takes more athletic ability and skill to play basketball than football. This is an opinion that nearly everyone will agree with. It's also an opinion that Basketball takes more skill and athleticism than powerlifting. But it's an opinion held by everyone not retarded and can't be argued against. Than it is an absolute fact that Collegiate sports are on a higher level than High School.

It's also a fact that Kevin Durant is 18 and is going into the NBA already.

Way to counter 1 opinion with another. It's okay. I can
tell you've never played football before. Ignorance is excused...

[Nick is cool]

I'm watching Youtube videos of these powerlifting meets and these 14 year olds are only doing it once, some twice.

That does NOT count, when you can do 200lbs 10 times at 14 then I'll be impressed.

My grandmother could do 180lbs once. This kind of shit gets my blood boiling, what use is it to say you can lift 200lbs when you can barely do it once. I guess it's just a pissing match.

There's a shit load of these videos, every single one ranging from 180-225, every 14 year old doing it once.



Edit: Meh I feel like an asshole, 185 at 14 is indeed impressive, I don't remember any 14 year olds in my class doing anything even close to that. I just can't see how people brag about doing weights they couldn't utilize anywhere but the bench a single pump.



I dont really understand what your saying at all.



You're a footballer right? This is a video I can't wait to see.




tank tyler did 225 42 times at the combine this year

[sprak_]

Everytime you go inside to grab a rebound, or when you when you go to block a shot so you dont get dunked on. I belive thats when it comes into play.

The main area where I'd see having above average strength benefiting an nba player is if they are defending big low post scorers all the time. Example: Ben Wallace. Durant isn't gonna be doing any of that, plus now that he's in the league he will get stronger.

Joakim Noah
What he did well: Noah stood an even 7 feet tall and considering he only weighs 223 lbs, did very well by performing 12 bench reps. He also had a very impressive 37.5’’ vertical leap.

12 Reps at 185 for a Taller, Just as skinny player. BOO DURANT.

I bet Durant will be able to do 185 12 times before Noah is able to make 12 free throws in a row ^_^

[somechick121]

So Noah is even taller than Durant (longer arms most likely), and weighs right about the same, and still owned him?

[Papero]

I dont really understand what your saying at all.


All I'm saying is if it's not 10 reps then you didn't lift the weight. Though I don't understand how you didn't understand that part.

Do you honestly go around telling everyone you can do a single rep of XXX weight? Probably leaving the single rep part out.

When you were 14 you didn't actually possess the strength for 185lbs, if someone asked you to lift 185lbs and hold it you couldn't do it. Though you haven't told me how many reps you did, but all the 14 year old professionals only did single reps.

[Nick is cool]

All I'm saying is if it's not 10 reps then you didn't lift the weight. Though I don't understand how you didn't understand that part.

Do you honestly go around telling everyone you can do a single rep of XXX weight? Probably leaving the single rep part out.

When you were 14 you didn't actually possess the strength for 185lbs, if someone asked you to lift 185lbs and hold it you couldn't do it. Though you haven't told me how many reps you did, but all the 14 year old professionals only did single reps.





Dude, you have no idea what your talking about. First of all, the only time people do 10 reps is to tone. If your going for strength people usually do anywhere from 3-8 reps each set, usually only 3-5. And when i tell people the most weight i can do, i say i max out at xxx 1 rep. The last paragraph doesnt make sense at all, you lift the weight off the bench, go down touch your chest, and push it up, thats a rep.


You dont have to be able to bench it 10 times to say 'you can do it', only once.

[Burningnun]

All I'm saying is if it's not 10 reps then you didn't lift the weight.

I agree with you for some of your post, but this part is just bullshit. You're saying that people doing Rippetoe or Starr 5x5 routines can get built by never having lifted a weight in their lives?

I wish that were the case.

[The Inmate]

As I said before, for comparison, Corey Brewer, who is 6'8" 185, put up 185 11 times. Durant has 2 inches and 35 pounds on him, and cant do it once.

And I bet his arms are relatively long.

Durant has a wingspan of 7'5. corey only 6'7....yeah big difference...

but he still should be able to put up 185, thats weak shit...

and durant is still a child..he doesnt even have any facial hair for chirst sake

[bsquared977]

if you are familiar with wayne gretzky, he wasn't able to do 1 rep at 150lbs at the NHL combine when he was 17 and he turned out just fine.

[navid]

can he score? k so stfu.

[Wu-tang]

Way to counter 1 opinion with another. It's okay. I can
tell you've never played football before. Ignorance is excused...

:rolleyes:

Nigga please, I've been playing football my entire life. It's my favorite sport, and if you actually came to the forums during the season you'd know that I love football. To say that Football requires more skill and athleticism than basketball is pure bullshit.

It definatley is an opinion.. big highschool football games are almost like college games, you cant really compare the 2 because im sure to some people playing highschool football is more important then college basketball and vise versca. To play basketball you have to be alot more skilled and coordinated then football, but this shows you can be as weak as a fly and still dominate.


lol no they're not...That post is ridiculous except for the last sentence.

[somechick121]

First time I've ever heard anyone say that to say you can lift a certain weight you have to be able to do 10 reps.

[sinner78]

The NBA trainers will get him strong... it might take a year or two though

I agree.
I saw some pics of darko milicic when he first arrived in america and the guy wasnt well built.
after a season of working with trainers he was ripped.

[Papero]

Dude, you have no idea what your talking about. First of all, the only time people do 10 reps is to tone. If your going for strength people usually do anywhere from 3-8 reps each set, usually only 3-5. And when i tell people the most weight i can do, i say i max out at xxx 1 rep. The last paragraph doesnt make sense at all, you lift the weight off the bench, go down touch your chest, and push it up, thats a rep.


You dont have to be able to bench it 10 times to say 'you can do it', only once.

I have no idea what I'm talking about? You're the one bragging about simply doing a SINGLE REP, there's nothing to it. I honestly do not believe you ever even touched a weight in your life, anyone who has never heard of the staple of 10 reps and claims to be some kind of godly lifter is bullshitting.

You aren't even attempting to understand what I'm saying because you're too full of yourself, those men do 3-8 reps because the form and number of reps effects the exercise but you could ask them to do 10 reps and they absolutely could.

Go get yourself a book on body building, I suggest reading Arnold Schwarzenegger bodybuilding encyclopedia, he speaks of people like yourself.

If you cannot do 10 reps of weight in question then it is not your max weight. Most body builders will tell you this and the man who deserves the utmost respect in body building has that statement word for word in his encyclopedia.

No I'm not saying all exercises require 10 reps at all and I never said that, I'm saying if you want to brag about being so strong and able to lift such and such amount then you should be able to put it up more then once. This is something low self esteem fucks do, they say they can lift a certain weight, do it once but almost pop an eye out.

If I can do 10 reps of 200, I can do 200, this is my strength and I can utilize it.
Someone who gets a great nights sleep and does 200 by pissing every bit of energy they have for the day in it doesn't possess the same strength as me and shouldn't be labeled as such.

[Mr. Heskey]

What can he lift?

184.9? :confused:

[Nick is cool]

I have no idea what I'm talking about? You're the one bragging about simply doing a SINGLE REP, there's nothing to it. I honestly do not believe you ever even touched a weight in your life, anyone who has never heard of the staple of 10 reps and claims to be some kind of godly lifter is bullshitting.

You aren't even attempting to understand what I'm saying because you're too full of yourself, those men do 3-8 reps because the form and number of reps effects the exercise but you could ask them to do 10 reps and they absolutely could.

Go get yourself a book on body building, I suggest reading Arnold Schwarzenegger bodybuilding encyclopedia, he speaks of people like yourself.

If you cannot do 10 reps of weight in question then it is not your max weight. Most body builders will tell you this and the man who deserves the utmost respect in body building has that statement word for word in his encyclopedia.

No I'm not saying all exercises require 10 reps at all and I never said that, I'm saying if you want to brag about being so strong and able to lift such and such amount then you should be able to put it up more then once. This is something low self esteem fucks do, they say they can lift a certain weight, do it once but almost pop an eye out.

If I can do 10 reps of 200, I can do 200, this is my strength and I can utilize it.
Someone who gets a great nights sleep and does 200 by pissing every bit of energy they have for the day in it doesn't possess the same strength as me and shouldn't be labeled as such.





You dont know what the hell your talking about dude. You dont have to be able to do a weight 10 times to say you can lift it, simple as that. Ask anyone who knows anything about lifting. And i didnt brag about anything, i was just using an example to further explain that he cant bench worth shit. And its funny that you bring up bodybuilding, i GUARENTEE you they do low reps heavy weight, because that gets you big, not light weight with alot of reps.


If you can do 10 reps of 200, good for you (i personally dont think you could because you know nothing about lifting), thats how much weight you can do 10 times but your MAX for 1 rep would probaly be around 250 or maybe higher.



ask anyone who knows anything about lifting, even anyone on this forum, and i guarentee you they wont say 10 reps is the only thing that your supposed to do



:rolleyes:




lol no they're not...That post is ridiculous except for the last sentence.




im not sure about this but how many people usually get to college bball games, just to compare to HS football?

[Eminem]

Shaq benches 300lbs.

Which is pretty sad considering his size. Earl Boykins can bench 315...

[The Machine]

If you cannot do 10 reps of weight in question then it is not your max weight.

really? I thought 3 reps was max or something. 10 seems a bit ridiculous.

[Edgecrusher]

:rolleyes:

Nigga please, I've been playing football my entire life. It's my favorite sport, and if you actually came to the forums during the season you'd know that I love football. To say that Football requires more skill and athleticism than basketball is pure bullshit.



lol no they're not...That post is ridiculous except for the last sentence.


AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!


Bye-bye credibility, then.

[camjoe87]

Dude, you have no idea what your talking about. First of all, the only time people do 10 reps is to tone. If your going for strength people usually do anywhere from 3-8 reps each set, usually only 3-5. And when i tell people the most weight i can do, i say i max out at xxx 1 rep. The last paragraph doesnt make sense at all, you lift the weight off the bench, go down touch your chest, and push it up, thats a rep.


You dont have to be able to bench it 10 times to say 'you can do it', only once.

To be fair, going for 3-8 reps maximum is usually for people trying to bulk up there muscles. Not necessarily for strength training. Strength training usually goes hand-in-hand with endurance training which usually requires between 8-12 reps. STILL, with bulking up you're going to become stronger. Same with endurance/strength training though, obviously.

Toning up is usually more of a cardio thing with very light weight.

And with that, this thread has gone way off topic...

[The Machine]

And with that, this thread has gone way off topic...

I love taco bell as well.

[Wu-tang]

im not sure about this but how many people usually get to college bball games, just to compare to HS football?

What? I don't even know what you're asking. If you're trying to say that more people go to HS football games than College Basketball than that's just absolutely ridiculous. College Basketball is one of the most popular sports in America. The two favorite American sport events are the Superbowl, and March Madness. If you ever just watch NCAA basketball you can tell that the atmosphere is intense.

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!


Bye-bye credibility, then.

:rolleyes: Right. I lost all my credibility by stating something that everyone knows, and you have so much more cred by stating that it takes more talent to be a MLB on a top 20 HS in a state than it does to be a top two NBA talent prospects.

And on top of all of this, whenever I google Zach Krump...the only page that has results is this thread. Nothing on MLB prospect, which he would be if he existed. Nothing on Oklahoma Powerlifting HS records, which he would be if he existed. All in all...Bullshit. That shit isn't even believable. You really don't have anything to say as theres nothing for you to say as shown in your last posts.

I have no idea what I'm talking about? You're the one bragging about simply doing a SINGLE REP, there's nothing to it. I honestly do not believe you ever even touched a weight in your life, anyone who has never heard of the staple of 10 reps and claims to be some kind of godly lifter is bullshitting.

You aren't even attempting to understand what I'm saying because you're too full of yourself, those men do 3-8 reps because the form and number of reps effects the exercise but you could ask them to do 10 reps and they absolutely could.

Go get yourself a book on body building, I suggest reading Arnold Schwarzenegger bodybuilding encyclopedia, he speaks of people like yourself.

If you cannot do 10 reps of weight in question then it is not your max weight. Most body builders will tell you this and the man who deserves the utmost respect in body building has that statement word for word in his encyclopedia.

No I'm not saying all exercises require 10 reps at all and I never said that, I'm saying if you want to brag about being so strong and able to lift such and such amount then you should be able to put it up more then once. This is something low self esteem fucks do, they say they can lift a certain weight, do it once but almost pop an eye out.

If I can do 10 reps of 200, I can do 200, this is my strength and I can utilize it.
Someone who gets a great nights sleep and does 200 by pissing every bit of energy they have for the day in it doesn't possess the same strength as me and shouldn't be labeled as such.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I even have Arnold's encyclopedia and no where does he say anything wrong with powerlifting. He even says it's a good thing to go on low reps every once in awhile. He even used to lift heavy low-rep weights when he first started. I really don't even see how being able to lift 200 10x would indicate anything. Maxing out is lifting a weight once.

[sprak_]

To say that Football requires more skill and athleticism than basketball is pure bullshit.

Umm no. If you're strong or fast you can play football. Basketball takes way more skill.

[pacaveli]

he has a wirey frame skinny, and long arms his bench would be low

http://www.texassports.com/image_lib/durant_kevin_120206_300.jpg

[sinner78]

Umm no. If you're strong or fast you can play football. Basketball takes way more skill.

Depends on the position I wager.
A quarterback would need alot of skill and judgement .Where as a defensive linesman would obviously require far lass skill than the average basketball player.

[SecretWorldOfOg]

Strength and conditioning is something that can be worked on. When Charles Barkely met Dwight Howard, he said that Dwight would never make it in the nba because he was way too skinny, and look at him now. Stamina and strength are two things that are really a non issue, they can be developed at any time.


http://videos.utexasclan.com/view.php?id=1071

/thread

[Nick is cool]

What? I don't even know what you're asking. If you're trying to say that more people go to HS football games than College Basketball than that's just absolutely ridiculous. College Basketball is one of the most popular sports in America. The two favorite American sport events are the Superbowl, and March Madness. If you ever just watch NCAA basketball you can tell that the atmosphere is intense.



You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I even have Arnold's encyclopedia and no where does he say anything wrong with powerlifting. He even says it's a good thing to go on low reps every once in awhile. He even used to lift heavy low-rep weights when he first started. I really don't even see how being able to lift 200 10x would indicate anything. Maxing out is lifting a weight once.




I wasnt really thinking of march madness for some reason, i know how important that is. And the bold is what im trying to tell that kid.



Umm no. If you're strong or fast you can play football. Basketball takes way more skill.



reread his post..

[Wu-tang]

Umm no. If you're strong or fast you can play football. Basketball takes way more skill.

...That's exactly what I was fucking arguing. I AGREE.

[sprak_]

woops my bad... that's what I get for posting at 4 AM tired as hell :P

[gatorpatric0]

Durant will be fine in the NBA...but he's still weak.

[bobtheflob]

Looks like he's doing better for himself now. From Chad Ford's blog:

After a so-so workout for Greg Oden on Wednesday, Kevin Durant came out and wowed the Portland Trail Blazers in his Friday workout, as expected.

Blazers GM Kevin Pritchard gushed about how Durant looked, saying that it may have been the best workout he's ever seen since joining the Blazers.

Pritchard said that Durant's game is made for these type of workouts.

"There's nothing he can't do on the basketball court," Pritchard said after the workout. Pritchard also said that Oden's game is obviously not as well suited to a workout like this.

Pritchard also dismissed the idea that Durant wasn't taking the process seriously. He was in great shape, according to Pritchard, and went really hard.

Pritchard said he's continuing to keep an open mind but also added that Durant's workout Friday did make a difference in what his decision would be. It's interesting that Pritchard said that before he sat down to interview Durant.

He also said there was no consensus in Portland about who the No. 1 pick should be.

While all the internal signals from inside the Blazers point to Oden ... the public signals sure seem to point to a love affair between Pritchard and Durant.

[somechick121]

If Portland doesnt take Oden their GM should be lynched.

Oh, and he can't bench 185 on a basketball court! :)

[HOF 45]

1. He will get stronger, or else get pounded in the NBA. Do you think all 19 year olds enter with NBA bodies? Dwight Howard came in pretty thin and bulked up big time, now he is massive.

2. You fools are acting like you've accomplished more than Durant by being able to bench a certain amount of weight. First of all, benching alone means absolutely nothing. Rafael Arujo is one of the biggest guys in the NBA, can probably bench 400 lbs, and is a complete piece of shit. Durant is more athletic, and in better shape than any of you on this board combined. He could easily call you pathetic pussies. He will easily fill out once he gains experience.

3. Better than being a fat pussy who benches a lot because he's so damn fat, but stuffs his fat ass with hot dogs every day. Most importantly, he isn't slow, unathletic, or out of shape.

[Nick is cool]

1. He will get stronger, or else get pounded in the NBA. Do you think all 19 year olds enter with NBA bodies? Dwight Howard came in pretty thin and bulked up big time, now he is massive.

2. You fools are acting like you've accomplished more than Durant by being able to bench a certain amount of weight. First of all, benching alone means absolutely nothing. Rafael Arujo is one of the biggest guys in the NBA, can probably bench 400 lbs, and is a complete piece of shit. Durant is more athletic, and in better shape than any of you on this board combined. He could easily call you pathetic pussies. He will easily fill out once he gains experience.

3. Better than being a fat pussy who benches a lot because he's so damn fat, but stuffs his fat ass with hot dogs every day. Most importantly, he isn't slow, unathletic, or out of shape.




1. stop reviving every thread

2. no one said anything about being better then durant at basketball, we were just saying 14 year old kids easily bench more then him, which is true. Durant is obviously 10x better at basketball then anyone here

3. he probaly could call us all pathetic pussies, i mean its not hard to go up to someone and say 'your a pathetic pussy' unless you dont have a tongue or something


4. just because people can bench more then your idol durant doesnt make them fat

[HOF 45]

2. no one said anything about being better then durant at basketball, we were just saying 14 year old kids easily bench more then him, which is true. Durant is obviously 10x better at basketball then anyone here

That wasn't my point at all. Learn to read. People were acting as if they achieved something more difficult than Durant. Benching itself is probably the least physically demanding exercise. I was saying Durant had the right to call you guys pathetic. Why? Probably because he'd be able to last longer during a death sprint than any of you here and is 10x the athlete. He's achieved things that are physically harder than anyone on this board.


4. just because people can bench more then your idol durant doesnt make them fat

Durant is not my idol at all. I don't have anything against him at all, but do not care too much for him. I was just emphasizing how overrated benching is. People act as if benching makes you tough, when in reality, marathon runners(built like toothpicks), are much tougher than weightlifters who bench a lot. Death has been a result of rigorous conditioning. What's the worst result of benching? Any fat pussy(probably you) can eat a lot, be useless, and bench a lot. My point was that they really haven't achieved anything difficult.

[Nick is cool]

4.

Durant is not my idol at all. I don't have anything against him at all, but do not care too much for him. I was just emphasizing how overrated benching is. People act as if benching makes you tough, when in reality, marathon runners(built like toothpicks), are much tougher than weightlifters who bench a lot. Death has been a result of rigorous conditioning. What's the worst result of benching? Any fat pussy(probably you) can eat a lot, be useless, and bench a lot. My point was that they really haven't achieved anything difficult.




Yes because being a 5'8 120 pound ethiopian who doesnt get tired at all is tougher then someone twice his size that would kill him in a sprint. I like how you act like any time someone benches alot their fat, when in reality they are just strong. Theres people in the nfl that weigh 250 and would kill durant in a sprint, all while benching 225 (ALOT more then durant can even bench once) over 25 times. But they are probaly fat, right? Because everyone who is strong is just a fat pussy. It must suck to be able to bench alot, because if you can your fat. You dont know shit kid, go join a kevin durant fan club forum and talk about how not being able to bench 185 makes him awesome but everyone who can bench more then him is fat.

[HOF 45]

Yes because being a 5'8 120 pound ethiopian who doesnt get tired at all is tougher then someone twice his size that would kill him in a sprint. I like how you act like any time someone benches alot their fat, when in reality they are just strong. Theres people in the nfl that weigh 250 and would kill durant in a sprint, all while benching 225 (ALOT more then durant can even bench once) over 25 times. But they are probaly fat, right? Because everyone who is strong is just a fat pussy. It must suck to be able to bench alot, because if you can your fat. You dont know shit kid, go join a kevin durant fan club forum and talk about how not being able to bench 185 makes him awesome but everyone who can bench more then him is fat.

Not even close. LOL! The "sprint" isn't even close to a true measure of speed, since I'm sure Durant could kill those pussies is a full court spring while dribbling a ball. That's real speed. And those same pussies could get dunked on by Durant and couldnt do shit about it. But here is why they are really pussies. Those same pussies you were talking about in the NFL would probably die of a heart attack if they had to go through Durant's physical conditioning routine. It's obvious that you are an out of shape sissy, since you think benching is harder than running. Durant would kill those 250 lb scrubs in a 5 suicide run with no break at all. The problem is that those 250 lb wimps won't be used to their 50 second breaks after the 2 second plays. If you've ever gone through a true endurance drill, you'd know it's way, way tougher than any physical workout known to mankind. Just face it. Your idols are out of shape wimps.

:lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:

[Nick is cool]

Not even close. LOL! The "sprint" isn't even close to a true measure of speed, since I'm sure Durant could kill those pussies is a full court spring while dribbling a ball. That's real speed. And those same pussies could get dunked on by Durant and couldnt do shit about it. But here is why they are really pussies. Those same pussies you were talking about in the NFL would probably die of a heart attack if they had to go through Durant's physical conditioning routine. It's obvious that you are an out of shape sissy, since you think benching is harder than running. Durant would kill those 250 lb scrubs in a 5 suicide run with no break at all. The problem is that those 250 lb wimps won't be used to their 50 second breaks after the 2 second plays. If you've ever gone through a true endurance drill, you'd know it's way, way tougher than any physical workout known to mankind. Just face it. Your idols are out of shape wimps.

:lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:




Im sure most nfl players would get dunked on by durant... and im sure that durant would get absolutely killed if he did anything physical with any nfl player, including some kickers.


And apparently somehow a sprint doesnt measure speed to you. You do know right, that the whole world isnt revolved around basketball, and sprinting without a ball is a better measurement of how fast you are then dribbling would be. Those strong nfl players, but to you they are fat because there is no such thing as strong, are alot faster then durant in sprints.


Like i said before, i do play basketball, probaly alot more then you do, so i obviously know how hard it is to get into basketball shape. You have to be in better shape to play basketball then football, but you still have to be in good shape to play football. They are far from out of shape.



and btw you are the most biased kid ive ever seen

[HOF 45]

Im sure most nfl players would get dunked on by durant... and im sure that durant would get absolutely killed if he did anything physical with any nfl player, including some kickers.


And apparently somehow a sprint doesnt measure speed to you. You do know right, that the whole world isnt revolved around basketball, and sprinting without a ball is a better measurement of how fast you are then dribbling would be. Those strong nfl players, but to you they are fat because there is no such thing as strong, are alot faster then durant in sprints.


Like i said before, i do play basketball, probaly alot more then you do, so i obviously know how hard it is to get into basketball shape. You have to be in better shape to play basketball then football, but you still have to be in good shape to play football. They are far from out of shape.



and btw you are the most biased kid ive ever seen

Not really. I'm sure Durant would back down any NFL player easily or box them out and out rebound them with no problem. That's kind of sad considering Durant is one of the weakest players in the NBA. Sprints are not a measure of true speed. Back in my days at high school, there were a couple of overweight kids who could outrun more athletic kids simply because they were used to 40 yd sprints. Pushing a ball while moving full speed requires much more speed.


Also, like I said, Durant would destroy any NFL player in a long distance full court run. Long distance movement is the most tiring physical workout known to mankind. Fatigue is the toughest obstacle to overcome. It's easier to become strong than it is to be in shape. To be in shape, you need a true work ethic. It's easy to be fat and strong. It's hard to be a conditioned athlete.

I'm not calling all of them fat. I'm calling them out of shape.

Out of shape people = sissies

[Nick is cool]

Not really. I'm sure Durant would back down any NFL player easily or box them out and out rebound them with no problem. That's kind of sad considering Durant is one of the weakest players in the NBA. Sprints are not a measure of true speed. Back in my days at high school, there were a couple of overweight kids who could outrun more athletic kids simply because they were used to 40 yd sprints. Pushing a ball while moving full speed requires much more speed.


Also, like I said, Durant would destroy any NFL player in a long distance full court run. Long distance movement is the most tiring physical workout known to mankind. Fatigue is the toughest obstacle to overcome. It's easier to become strong than it is to be in shape. To be in shape, you need a true work ethic. It's easy to be fat and strong. It's hard to be a conditioned athlete.

I'm not calling all of them fat. I'm calling them out of shape.

Out of shape people = sissies






He couldnt back down hardly any of them, even if he was strong for his size simply because nfl players weigh so much more then him. And you got people like julius peppers, 6'7 290 pounds and played basketball in college, who would dominate durant underneath with strength.


And your right about some players in the nfl, but your generalizing wayy too much. Nfl recievers are in great shape, every play they sprint 30 yards or more most of the time. Your right about most lineman being out of shape, but they are in better shape then you think.

[cmacdon]

So all of the sudden he becomes a shitty basketball player?

This obtained more attention then it should of.

[HOF 45]

He couldnt back down hardly any of them, even if he was strong for his size simply because nfl players weigh so much more then him. And you got people like julius peppers, 6'7 290 pounds and played basketball in college, who would dominate durant underneath with strength.


And your right about some players in the nfl, but your generalizing wayy too much. Nfl recievers are in great shape, every play they sprint 30 yards or more most of the time. Your right about most lineman being out of shape, but they are in better shape then you think.

Was he the 12th man? Did he play for a division 3 scrub team? Seriously there would be no way he'd be able to play at that weight, being that unathletic and out of shape. Durant could back him down, dunk on his face, box him out, foul him harder, and anything else. I can also guarantee that Durant could sprint a full quarter and last longer than Peppers would for 3 minutes.

By the way, Glen Davis is a 6'7 300 lb fatty that could have easily had an NFL career(all the scouts said so). He decided to play basketball, and went in the 2nd round. Do you see him dominating anyone with his size and strength? No. All I see him doing is huffing and puffing his fat ass down the floor.

[Nick is cool]

Was he the 12th man? Did he play for a division 3 scrub team? Seriously there would be no way he'd be able to play at that weight, being that unathletic and out of shape. Durant could back him down, dunk on his face, box him out, foul him harder, and anything else. I can also guarantee that Durant could sprint a full quarter and last longer than Peppers would for 3 minutes.

By the way, Glen Davis is a 6'7 300 lb fatty that could have easily had an NFL career(all the scouts said so). He decided to play basketball, and went in the 2nd round. Do you see him dominating anyone with his size and strength? No. All I see him doing is huffing and puffing his fat ass down the floor.




He obviously wasnt that big when he played in college, probaly around 250. And he played at a d1 school, as did antonio gates, i forget which ones they were.


Apparently you didnt watch college a few years ago, when glen davis had a decent team he led his team to the final four, last year he just had no help. And are you telling me shaq isnt good just because he is big? He doesnt use 'athleticism' at all, he is good ONLY because of strength and size. I wanna see your argument on this one, trying to tell me either shaq isnt big or he isnt good.

[pantomime]

Didn't stop him from being the ONLY player in the top 5 in points per game and rebounds per game.

[navid]

k so basically we arell revolving how durant is still SICK, but is still somewhat weak, and has loads to improve.
k? cool.
stfu

[Whodi86]

Kevin Durant is an outstanding player, but all of his stats were in college/highschool, not the NBA. The NBA is a big, big step up from college, and even though bench press isn't total strength, he better train a lot harder in the weight room. He will never get big and bulky because that's not the type of player he is, but every NBA player has to be somewhat physical. Unless of course if he's as amazing as Dirk or Garnett in years to come.

[somechick121]

Even Dirk and Garnett play physically a fair amount.

Anyways, why is this thread still around?

[ChadR6783]

Jay Z bench pressed the correctness.


Seriously though, I remember wrestling and the power lifting meets in high school... The smaller, shorter limbed guys could throw up a lot more weight than the taller, longer limbed guys who weighed the same could in the weight room. But the taller, longer limbed guys seemed more "athletically strong" on the mat in wrestling and the field when I played football.

Really though, what's a basketball player need high bench numbers for? A basketball weighs what, a pound? two pounds?
They seem stronger because they can often deliver a harder hit due to their mass (assuming the taller, longer limbed person is heavier because that's usually the case). It seems true for football anyways. I can't come up with an explanation for both people in the scenario being the same weight, though. It sucks being tall for lifting. I can't squat worth shit. My damn legs are too long.

[C EVIL KILL IT]

Funny thread,

Some of you are being too hard on Durant, If say in 2 years he has worked with a trainer and does 225, who will remember this nonsense. Basketball ain't football either. Different skills and strength needed.

He is physically weak for a guy his size (weightlifting wise), but if he can ball at the NBA level who cares. If he drops 30 in a game who cares.

Also a few of you guys say he HAS to defend. How many scorers in the NBA since the 80's can you name that played "Matador Defense"... a lot.

Michael Cooper 1980s Lakers, great defender, super leaper 6'7" 175!!!

Reggie Miller....nuff said. Wonder what Reggie benched during his career or at UCLA.

I agree, dude can't lift much, but in the long run, so what, can he ball or not. Let's wait and see. Some muscular dudes that have been in the NBA can't/could not ball.

[sprak_]

Peppers played basketball for UNC. I can't remember if he was a starter but he did play significant minutes... far from being the 12th man. He's a freak of nature.

He doesnt use 'athleticism' at all, he is good ONLY because of strength and size. I wanna see your argument on this one, trying to tell me either shaq isnt big or he isnt good.

Wtf? The most amazing thing about Shaq is how quick and agile he is while also weighing 330+. I think you're confused about what 'athleticism' is.

[Nick is cool]

Wtf? The most amazing thing about Shaq is how quick and agile he is while also weighing 330+. I think you're confused about what 'athleticism' is.






So your saying the main reason shaq was good was his quickness?

[SecretWorldOfOg]

So your saying the main reason shaq was good was his quickness?

The thing that makes Shaq great isn't solely because of he's strength and size. There are a lot of 7 footers out there, but in the vast majority of cases they are ridiculously slow and have clumsy footwork. Shaq, on the other hand, is an absolute beast; but Shaq in his prime has some the best low-post footwork in the game. If you've ever actually seen him in his prime, it was amazing how effective his drop step was, exactly because of his strength, height and quickness.

His dexterity in the low-post is why he was so great, coupled with mind boggling strength and size.

[C EVIL KILL IT]

The thing that makes Shaq great isn't solely because of he's strength and size. There are a lot of 7 footers out there, but in the vast majority of cases they are ridiculously slow and have clumsy footwork. Shaq, on the other hand, is an absolute beast; but Shaq in his prime has some the best low-post footwork in the game. If you've ever actually seen him in his prime, it was amazing how effective his drop step was, exactly because of his strength, height and quickness.

His dexterity in the low-post is why he was so great, coupled with mind boggling strength and size.
SecretWorldOfOg

Agreed. That is why he's so unique. His drop step was excellent and though lacking speed he had quickness in his prime. Other strong bigmen have played the post, but they had poor dexterity compared to Shaq. Not the main reason for his success, but a key ingredient for sure!