Best Rivalry In Sports?

[Shymega]

What is the best rivalry in sports?

-Other please specify.

[USB]

Boca Juniors and River Plate

trust me, these guys are fucknig mental. When Danny Dyre visted them on The Real Football Factories international the fan were crazy

[Marcos2990]

You can put down Toronto vs Ottawa, battle of Ontario can't get any better. Also Lakers vs Celtics. The rivalry between the two were huge in the 80's and still are, well sort of since they're both crap now.

[somechick121]

Sox-Yankees. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong :)

[Quiet_Riot]

Just a warning, the United gloryboys are going to whine that you didn't put up United/Liverpool.

[Mr. Heskey]

Yea you forgot to add the other 30 rivalries that are just as respected...

[YankeesSuck]

Yea you forgot to add the other 30 rivalries that are just as respected...
Yeah theres too many. Bruins-Canadiens might be the biggest in hockey.

[modogthemonkey]

As i am from Manchester i gotta say United/City....Liverpool.

But i think Celtic/rangers is the most fierce with the whole Catholic/Protestant sectarian thing.

[jn_powell]

College rivalries are much better than pro sports. Ohio/Michigan would probably be the best. There are some other good college rivalries as well. Alabama/Auburn, UT/OU, etc.

[Meio]

College rivalries are much better than pro sports. Ohio/Michigan would probably be the best. There are some other good college rivalries as well. Alabama/Auburn, UT/OU, etc.

I've not heard of any fighting during The Boat Race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_football_rivalries

[jn_powell]

I've not heard of any fighting during The Boat Race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_football_rivalries
Are you trying to say that fighting is an indication of a good rivalry. I find it an indication of idiocy personally. This is a game. A rivalry should consist of mutual respect mixed with a little bit of disdain and a lot of good competition. That is why I think the Boston/New York thing is a little overrated. New York has been dominating for decades until just recently.

EDIT: Except, ofcourse, for the NHL where fighting (on the ice in the course of the game) is a part of the sport.

[JLC]

England - Germany, football.

Not the biggest but one of my favs.

[Marcos2990]

Also Leafs vs Canadiens are a huge rivalry in hockey

[Meio]

Are you trying to say that fighting is an indication of a good rivalry. I find it an indication of idiocy personally. This is a game. A rivalry should consist of mutual respect mixed with a little bit of disdain and a lot of good competition. That is why I think the Boston/New York thing is a little overrated. New York has been dominating for decades until just recently.

EDIT: Except, ofcourse, for the NHL where fighting (on the ice in the course of the game) is a part of the sport.

I'm suggesting that if a true rivalry has been operating for a century or so then the passions involved might well have spilled over into violence between competitors or fans at some point.

Here is an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

[poopchow]

you forgot to put Redskins Cowboys... seriously what the fuck?

[MalYoung]

Cubs - Cardinals.

[baumy300]

Vikings-Packers.

[Meio]

you forgot to put Redskins Cowboys... seriously what the fuck?

He forgot PAOK vs Aris too, don't cry.

[atreyu_2020]

Just to add on to the madness.

No Steelers/Browns!? WTF!!??

But seriously, I know it's a hard poll to create, but you could have made it much better.

[jn_powell]

I'm suggesting that if a true rivalry has been operating for a century or so then the passions involved might well have spilled over into violence between competitors or fans at some point.

Here is an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War
How ridiculous can you get? Not you, ofcourse, but the people who resort to violence over a game.

[darkesthorizon]

Oh i voted Michigan Ohio State. But this is way to hard to decide. College Rivalries are better then Pro. Duke Carolina, Miami Florida State, Bama Auburn, USC Norte Dame, OU UT, Indiana Kentucky.

And the pros you got Yanks and Sox (which is way overrated, no one beside the east coast cares) Cowboys Redskins, Flames Oilers, Lakers Celtics, but that ones kinda dead. So probably more Spurs Mavs, or Mavs Suns.

[Meio]

How ridiculous can you get? Not you, ofcourse, but the people who resort to violence over a game.

I would say it's quite similar to people fighting over a flag or a line on a map, as demonstrated by my previous link where the football riot was a symptom of a greater national rivalry.

[jn_powell]

I would say it's quite similar to people fighting over a flag or a line on a map, as demonstrated by my previous link where the football riot was a symptom of a greater national rivalry.
Are you really trying to compare fighting for national sovereignty to fighting over a bunch of guys kicking a ball around?

[Shymega]

Just to add on to the madness.

No Steelers/Browns!? WTF!!??

But seriously, I know it's a hard poll to create, but you could have made it much better.

I can't list them all, but the Steelers/Browns is the best in the NFL. Others in the NFL are just media rivalries, no real fighting.

[Shymega]

My vote goes to Rangers-Islanders. Until you witness a game live, you see it gets very ugly, more so than other other NA sport i've been too.

Players always hate each other too.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ht6RyAI9370
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7AHPPa4d4x0

[xeoset]

Boca Juniors and River Plate

trust me, these guys are fucknig mental. When Danny Dyre visted them on The Real Football Factories international the fan were crazy

Isn't that the rivalry that started a war?

Or the one with the group that raped, literally raped their rivals?

[Shymega]

Isn't that the rivalry that started a war?

Or the one with the group that raped, literally raped their rivals?

That's beyond rivalry. It's get bad down there in Argentina.

[gatorpatric0]

College Football: Ohio State v. Michigan
Pro Football: SanFrancisco 49ers v. Dallas Cowboys
MLB: Yankees v. Red Sox
NBA: Lakers v. Celtics (Old School)
College Basketball: Duke v. UNC

Thats all I got. You hockey and Soccer fans can debate over the others.

[sinner78]

Isn't that the rivalry that started a war?

Or the one with the group that raped, literally raped their rivals?

that was dinamo zagreb vs red star belgrade (croatia vs serbia).

the rape part was hadjuk split vs partizan belgrade.

the episode was in youtube ,but the account was suspended.

[Nick is cool]

Sox-Yankees. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong :)






ya and they play what, 20 times a year?

any rivalry that plays more then 5 times a year shouldnt count



I picked michigan/ohiostate, dallas/skins or browns/pittsburgh i wouldve picked in the nfl. Most of us dallas fans hate philly the most because their fans are the gayest fucking people on the planet, but skins/dallas is probaly a bigger rivalry because unlike philly the skins actually won a superbowl.

[Shymega]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gyKzHzcnUeQ&mode=related&search=

Here is another good one.

[sinner78]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gyKzHzcnUeQ&mode=related&search=

Here is another good one.

in europe even basketball teams have lunatic fans..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9mw8Hg6ADqY

this is a greek rivalry in basketball.
hooligans follow both the football and basketball teams in places like greece ,turkey ,serbia ,etc

[Meio]

Are you really trying to compare fighting for national sovereignty to fighting over a bunch of guys kicking a ball around?

Yes, some people care very little about arbitrary nations or flags and wouldn't fight for them even if they were 'threatened', and some people care so much about their affiliation with a team and associated fan base, that they will spend every penny on the club, spend every waking moment in activities related to the club, and on occasion fight for the club's honour.
Fanaticism is part of human nature.

[Suspiria]

nobodies mentioned Florida-Georgia

largest cocktail party of the year...drunken fans going nuts...two always top notch teams. the game is always a fucking hugeass game.

Everyone thinks their rivalry is the best :p

[Meio]

nobodies mentioned Florida-Georgia

largest cocktail party of the year...drunken fans going nuts...two always top notch teams. the game is always a fucking hugeass game.

Everyone thinks their rivalry is the best :p

I don't, Leicester City vs Nottingham Forest and Leicester Tigers vs Bath are genteel compared to Boca vs River Plate or Fannebace vs Galataseray (I can't spell Turkish works too well)

[Mysterio]

I voted for Celtic/Rangers. We all know Celtic is the best though.

[Devastation]

Kentucky-Louisville, Florida-Kentucky, Indiana-Kentucky, Duke-North Carolina, Ohio State-Indiana, and those are just the basketball rivalries I care about.

[ryan41]

i am playing favorites but got to say isles and rangers..fishsticks always get smacked around

also...rangers/devils..hudson river rivals
battle of ontario....
battle of alberta
wings/avs have a nasty rivalry too.

[The Machine]

LOL @ baseball rivalries. Yeah, I'm sure there is much rivalry for the Yankees/Red Sox all 17 TIMES they play eachother each year! The tension really builds up every week until they play eachother again..lol

[FuNkYFreSH]

Miami - FSU
Ohio St - Michigan

[Shymega]

LOL @ baseball rivalries. Yeah, I'm sure there is much rivalry for the Yankees/Red Sox all 17 TIMES they play eachother each year! The tension really builds up every week until they play eachother again..lol


I tried to spread it around a bit, of course leaving out the gay wannabe NBA and NFL rivalries. I also knew a bunch of pimple faced 15 year old American kids(who know shit about real sports) would flood this thread bitching if i didn't.

[Shymega]

It is only a great rivalry is the players are in on it too. In all pro sports rivalries with maybe the exception of soccer, the players do not treat treat the game any different. College sport rivalries are where it is at.

You need to watch more hockey than. Players get at each other like no other in the BOA or BONY or BOO:bigwink:

Here is another great NHL rivalry brewing. Sabres -Senators
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EAPhqXj_24I

[Devastation]

I tried to spread it around a bit, of course leaving out the gay wannabe NBA and NFL rivalries. I also knew a bunch of pimple faced 15 year old American kids(who know shit about real sports) would flood this thread bitching if i didn't.

I'll agree with you on the NBA (the only thing that comes close is Celtics-Lakers, and that's not even really a rivalry anymore), but the NFL has number of good rivalries.

Aside from, of course, the Browns-Steelers, the Cowboys-Redskins games are always good to watch. You also have the Broncos-Raiders, the Bears-Packers, and of course, the one that gets shoved down our throats every year, Brady-Manning...I mean New England-Indianapolis.

[MooCowzRock]

I said Duke-UNC, but that may have to do with the fact that I live right in between Duke and UNC...lol...cant get any more intense than right where I live with that rivalry...

[The Machine]

I tried to spread it around a bit, of course leaving out the gay wannabe NBA and NFL rivalries. I also knew a bunch of pimple faced 15 year old American kids(who know shit about real sports) would flood this thread bitching if i didn't.

lol it's obvious you're a noob. I wasn't at all attacking your thread, I was saying that baseball rivalries are overhyped and ridiculous. It's well known that red sox and yankees have a huge rivalry, but I definately don't think it's that great as people say it is. Your thread was fine, by the way, so don't cry like a defensive little bitch.

[Nick is cool]

I tried to spread it around a bit, of course leaving out the gay wannabe NBA and NFL rivalries. I also knew a bunch of pimple faced 15 year old American kids(who know shit about real sports) would flood this thread bitching if i didn't.







lol ya, because hockey is much better then the nba and nfl. Its not even a contest, i mean look how many people like hockey. My bad, i forgot that no one likes hockey enough to watch it on TV. If someone doesnt say hockey or soccer you flip out like a little bitch in every thread.

[Shymega]

LMAO^^^ I guess these 2 clowns fall into the category of 15 year old pimple faced Faggots.:wave: Guess i touched a soft spot.

Hockey rivalries are a million times more better than NFL and NBA rivalries, don't even try to compare little nicky.

[gatorpatric0]

Being a Florida Fan, I left us out of Rivalry consideration because we have lots of rivalries, but no one great rivalry:

Football:
Florida v. Georgia
Florida v. Florida State
Florida v. Tennesse
Florida v. LSU

Basketball:
Florida v. Kentucky (Currently one of the top rivalries in College Basketball)
Florida v. Florida State (I dont know how, but FSU always manages to beat us once a year).

And of course, Every Florida fan hates Ohio State and every Ohio State fan hates Florida, but thats new to the 2006 Football/Basketball seasons.

[Nick is cool]

LMAO^^^ I guess these 2 clowns fall into the category of 15 year old pimple faced Faggots.:wave: Guess i touched a soft spot.

Hockey rivalries are a million times more better than NFL and NBA rivalries, don't even try to compare little nicky.






yea, because you would really know what i look like..



dude hockey isnt even considered at the same level as the nba or mlb, much less the nfl or college sports. its because not many people watch it and most people think its stupid. If their rivalries are so good, maybe they would have atleast close to as many fans as the nfl

[Shymega]

yea, because you would really know what i look like..



dude hockey isnt even considered at the same level as the nba or mlb, much less the nfl or college sports. its because not many people watch it and most people think its stupid. If their rivalries are so good, maybe they would have atleast close to as many fans as the nfl

You mean as the same level in only America right? and only idiots like you think it's stupid, cause you can't hop on some over-hyped, hood rat black players cock and dick ride him throughout the season. Your Lebron James pajamas will arrive in the mail soon you loser.:p

On a global scale Hockey is bigger than the NFL by a pretty big margin, i'm not sure about the others(probably even at best), but i know hockey is pretty big in Finland, Sweden, Russia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany, Italy and of course Canada. NFL is only popular in America, mainly due to a big part of sports betting and fantasy football.

And for your information, the NHL attendance has a better game average percentage(over 17,000 per game @ over 85%) than the NBA, and the arenas seat less due to the size of the ice. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Soccer is the #1 sport in the world, but not even on the radar in America. So i guess it sucks right, and no ones like it? Get your shit straight kid.

[Nick is cool]

You mean as the same level in only America right? and only idiots like you think it's stupid, cause you can't hop on some over-hyped, hood rat black players cock and dick ride him throughout the season. Your Lebron James pajamas will arrive in the mail soon you loser.:p

On a global scale Hockey is bigger than the NFL by a pretty big margin, i'm not sure about the others(probably even at best), but i know hockey is pretty big in Finland, Sweden, Russia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany, Italy and of course Canada. NFL is only popular in America, mainly due to a big part of sports betting and fantasy football.

And for your information, the NHL attendance has a better game average percentage(over 17,000 per game @ over 85%) than the NBA, and the arenas seat less due to the size of the ice. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Soccer is the #1 sport in the world, but not even on the radar in America. So i guess it sucks right, and no ones like it? Get your shit straight kid.




Well i am only talking about america only, if you didnt know that by now, i dont care what goes on in finland or russia or w/e, im talking about america in which hockey isnt even in the top 5 in most liked sports. And are you trying to say you cant be a fan of a certain player in hockey or something? Cause thats pretty gay if its true, but i wouldnt be suprised.


Hockey might get more people at games, but we both know the nba has ALOT more people watching their games then hockey. And im shouldnt even compare it to football, football quadrouples in attendance at games and probaly has 10x more viewers on TV.


You should move to russia, because all you do is talk shit about american sports and worship sports mostly played in other countries.

[Shymega]

Well i am only talking about america only, if you didnt know that by now, i dont care what goes on in finland or russia or w/e, im talking about america in which hockey isnt even in the top 5 in most liked sports. And are you trying to say you cant be a fan of a certain player in hockey or something? Cause thats pretty gay if its true, but i wouldnt be suprised.


Hockey might get more people at games, but we both know the nba has ALOT more people watching their games then hockey. And im shouldnt even compare it to football, football quadrouples in attendance at games and probaly has 10x more viewers on TV.


You should move to russia, because all you do is talk shit about american sports and worship sports mostly played in other countries.

I don't like non-professionals, Mostly which are NFL and NBA players. They can't speak right, dress right and act right and people(mostly which are white) should stop spending money to see them and there kids should stop trying to be like them(not all of them).

Sports in America NOW are setup to be viewed casually and for entertainment purposes only(NHL is not a casual sport), which is annoying as hell, it's all about money and the product has become so watered down, it's like Wal-Mart leagues.

A huge percentage of those viewers that watch the NBA and others are not real fans, they are your casual viewer who only know of that certain sport. It's a lazy/selfish act, typical average American people. So don't go thinking those leagues have huge fanbases. Just by internet alone, NHL message boards can be found more than others with more users on them. The Vancouver Canucks team site Message board alone has more users than every NFL board i've seen combined.:rollseyes

[sinner78]

the rivalries go beyond sport in soccer.

zenit vs spartak moscow

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0mh3SaeomHg

[sedriss]

Hogan/Flair hands down.

[blackeyedpoops]

RED SOX - YANKEES . Being in the bleachers at fenway park during a sox - yanks game is the most entertaining thing you could witness (especially when the race is close for the division / wild card). It's the best rivalry in baseball for sure.

[4savo4]

Just a warning, the United gloryboys are going to whine that you didn't put up United/Liverpool.

Yep we are. Where are United Liverpool?

[craigbaum]

Sunderland vs Newcastle

FACT

NAILED ON

END OF THREAD




CHEBS

[baumswonnowt]

Sunderland vs Newcastle

FACT

NAILED ON

END OF THREAD




CHEBS
concurred

sinje majeep and SEB concurr anarl:blahblah:

[Just Me]

Sorry if SEB but,

Sunderland v Newcastle

Has to be 100% correct.

Nailed on, Fact,

[Travis Bickle2]

Sunderland vs Ne£$^&*() is the biggest most bestest uber berby in the world so there, no apologies if SEB but this ia a nailed on Fact in the words of ICEMAN.

show us ya Chebs.

[Nerdcraft]

Michigan-Ohio State 32 33.68%

[Slayer-33]

90's KNICKS VS BULLS, INDIANA, MIAMI.

/endthread

[Watusa]

Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Jake LaMotta

[MagnavoxMan]

Browns vs. Steelers
Ohio St. vs. Michigan

[MusicIsDead]

Raiders-Broncos
Raiders-Chiefs
Al Davis-Everyone

[craigbaum]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/fireitupuk/sland.jpg

Amend this poll immediately you pricks man city manure FFS

OK I'll give you Celtic Rangers as a biggie but only for the biggest rivalry off the field the Stottish Premiership only has 4 "ok" games a season and these are all Celtic Rangers and are normally always down the wing cross header bullshit games played by overpaid pseudo superstars that cannot get into a top 4 English Premiership Team, are coming to the twilight of their careers, are money grabbing bastard mercenarys or have no place else to go and reckon playing in the SPL is the best chance they have of winning the European Golden Boot ...... I mean howay, even at Falkirk Tony Stokesy nearly got on the golden boot bus

Sunderland vs Newcastle - fucking deal with it

[sinner78]

only someone who supports either sunderland or newcastle would make the laughable claim that its the biggest rivalry.
nobody outside a small area of the north east gives a rats anus about that rivalry.

[Quiet_Riot]

only someone who supports either sunderland or newcastle would make the laughable claim that its the biggest rivalry.
nobody outside a small area of the north east gives a rats anus about that rivalry.

True. The mackems are part timers anyway, their support drops significantly when they're not premiership bound!

Only a dick would create account just to make that point, too. ;)

[sinner78]

True. The mackems are part timers anyway, their support drops significantly when they're not premiership bound!

Only a dick would create account just to make that point, too. ;)

its true that sunderland has massive fluctuations in support.
In a bad season the crowds drop by 20,000. Then keane takes charge and all of a sudden its sold out every game.

[blackeyedpoops]

ya and they play what, 20 times a year?

any rivalry that plays more then 5 times a year shouldnt count



I picked michigan/ohiostate, dallas/skins or browns/pittsburgh i wouldve picked in the nfl. Most of us dallas fans hate philly the most because their fans are the gayest fucking people on the planet, but skins/dallas is probaly a bigger rivalry because unlike philly the skins actually won a superbowl.

they play 17 times a year u ignorant fucking dipshit asshole cunt. -bob saget

[sweet]

Ohio State vs that team up north.

p.s. wolverines fuck squirrels.

[mathue]

Well i am only talking about america only, if you didnt know that by now, i dont care what goes on in finland or russia or w/e, im talking about america in which hockey isnt even in the top 5 in most liked sports. And are you trying to say you cant be a fan of a certain player in hockey or something? Cause thats pretty gay if its true, but i wouldnt be suprised.


Hockey might get more people at games, but we both know the nba has ALOT more people watching their games then hockey. And im shouldnt even compare it to football, football quadrouples in attendance at games and probaly has 10x more viewers on TV.


You should move to russia, because all you do is talk shit about american sports and worship sports mostly played in other countries.


Last i checked this isn't an american forum, it's a global forum so fuck off

[Nick is cool]

Last i checked this isn't an american forum, it's a global forum so fuck off







1. this is actually an american forum, people around the globe just come here

2. that post wasnt even relevent to what you said at all

[UncleJemima83]

as far as the nfl is concerned there isn't a bigger rivalry than bears vs. packers

in addition to the usual ingredentsthat make a great rivalry its also the oldest in the league and the venues pretty much have stayed the same

[Nick is cool]

as far as the nfl is concerned there isn't a bigger rivalry than bears vs. packers

in addition to the usual ingredentsthat make a great rivalry its also the oldest in the league and the venues pretty much have stayed the same






i would still make the argument that steelers/browns and dallas/washington are bigger ones

[cormega]

I think its funny how many people think American colleges have the best rivalry's. But in reality theres places if you wear the wrong jerseys you'll get stabbed. I think in all of sports its Celtic rangers because this boils down to religion and this is when it gets ugly.

Hockey- Toronto Maple Leafs and Ottawa Senators.
These games get nasty on the ice and off the ice in the stands. Theres been brawls in the parking lots and everywhere.

Baseball- No real rivalries compared to other sports but the red sox and yankees. To me this isnt a rivalry since they play like 20 times a year and nothing happens.

American Football- No one really cares to be honest

The real football- Boca Juniors vs River Plate Argentina
Man city vs man united Man United vs Liverpool West ham vs mill wall. Fenabace vs Galatrasy.

And I think pretty soon Toronto FC and Montreal impact are going to have a really big shit fest because both cities hate each other and toronto fans are nuts and so are the montreal to. Soccer is booming in Canada.

[Nick is cool]

I think its funny how many people think American colleges have the best rivalry's. But in reality theres places if you wear the wrong jerseys you'll get stabbed. I think in all of sports its Celtic rangers because this boils down to religion and this is when it gets ugly.

.







just because there have been a few cases when people have been stabbed in other sports doesnt make american football less of rivalries..


its not like every time you wear another teams jersey you get stabbed, im sure theres been pretty bad stuff happen at nfl and college games too but i dont feel like looking

[cormega]

its not like every time you wear another teams jersey you get stabbed, im sure theres been pretty bad stuff happen at nfl and college games too but i dont feel like looking

Buddy, when was the last time an NFL or college game got stopped because the fans were tearing the stadium apart. When was the last time that the team would not allow any fans into the stadiums during home games because of violence.If American NFL fans went to some stadiums in South America or Europe or even BMO in Toronto their is no dought in my mind that they would pay a costly price.

[somechick121]

Said it before, Sox-Yankees. And anyone who disagrees is wrong.

[sinner78]

Said it before, Sox-Yankees. And anyone who disagrees is wrong.

The players dont even hate each other that much anymore.
and the fans can freely go to the games and sit in rival fan sections without fear.

In places in europe and south america ,if you sit in the rival fan section you will be leaving on a stretcher or worse. You got fans who are willing to die for a team. No franchise in america has got fans like that.

[infamy5]

hey, looooong time reader (whatever happened to that I GOT DEM HANDZ kid anyway?), first time poster.

first time i've really been urged to post...

Soccer rivalries are the best and most extreme type in the world of sports, they stretch every country... except the odd "let's invade other countries" countries :rollseyes

Nationally, it has to be Brasil - Argentina. historic.

and in clubs it could be...
Boca Juniors - River Plate (these fuckers tape themselves beating and torturing rival supporters)
Celtic - Rangers
Zenit - Spartak
Dynamo - Belgrade

[jn_powell]

Buddy, when was the last time an NFL or college game got stopped because the fans were tearing the stadium apart. When was the last time that the team would not allow any fans into the stadiums during home games because of violence.
Oh I see. In order for there to be a rivalry our fans need to make complete jackasses out of themselves instead of doing what they do here and acting like the civilized people we are. I will make sure to pass the word on.

[Mysterio]

Oh I see. In order for there to be a rivalry our fans need to make complete jackasses out of themselves instead of doing what they do here and acting like the civilized people we are. I will make sure to pass the word on.

He never said thats what makes a rivalry. When the fans trash the place, or there is fights that shows how inteanse a rivalry can be. Thats why soccer are the biggest. While the Yankees and Red Sox is still a big rivalry no one gets hurt, there is no damage, its way less inteanse than others. THats the point he was making.

[Shymega]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6udSrQRhNOQ

This is one rivalry i will go to before i die.:D

[jn_powell]

He never said thats what makes a rivalry. When the fans trash the place, or there is fights that shows how inteanse a rivalry can be. Thats why soccer are the biggest. While the Yankees and Red Sox is still a big rivalry no one gets hurt, there is no damage, its way less inteanse than others. THats the point he was making.
Sigh. Just because people know how to behave themselves (see: act like adults) doesn't mean they are any less passionate about their teams or that there is any less of a rivalry. All it means is that they know how to act like human beings are supposed to act, not savage idiots.

[Shymega]

Sigh. Just because people know how to behave themselves (see: act like adults) doesn't mean they are any less passionate about their teams or that there is any less of a rivalry. All it means is that they know how to act like human beings are supposed to act, not savage idiots.

No you're wrong. If there is fights, crazy atmosphere and stuff, it means the fans take it that much more seriously. You don't seem to realize this.

I'm sure you wouldn't act civilized if someone punched your mother; well this is how serious fans feel when their team gets scored on.

[Phat]

Being a Florida Fan, I left us out of Rivalry consideration because we have lots of rivalries, but no one great rivalry:

Football:
Florida v. Georgia
Florida v. Florida State
Florida v. Tennesse
Florida v. LSU

Basketball:
Florida v. Kentucky (Currently one of the top rivalries in College Basketball)
Florida v. Florida State (I dont know how, but FSU always manages to beat us once a year).

And of course, Every Florida fan hates Ohio State and every Ohio State fan hates Florida, but thats new to the 2006 Football/Basketball seasons.

How could you forget Miami? I know UF hasn't played them since 04, but the rivalry between Florida and Miami used to be much crazier than any other rivalry back in the day.

[Nick is cool]

No you're wrong. If there is fights, crazy atmosphere and stuff, it means the fans take it that much more seriously. You don't seem to realize this.

I'm sure you wouldn't act civilized if someone punched your mother; well this is how serious fans feel when their team gets scored on.







no, once again, you can get pissed off like crazy and still not attack the other fans



just because your fans are crazy as hell doesnt mean they are better fans

[Shymega]

no, once again, you can get pissed off like crazy and still not attack the other fans



just because your fans are crazy as hell doesnt mean they are better fans

You need to understand one thing. Baseball and Football here are sports of entertainment. Soccer around the world is a sport of religion. Alot of Fanbases are literally gangs, and will attack opposing fans. You don't go into La Bombonera wearing a River Plate shirt or Newells old Boys jersey; you don't walk the Red mile in Calgary during playoffs wearing an Oilers jersey, you just don't and know not too. You can go into The Redskins stadium wearing whatever the hell you want, people as NFL fans don't take the game that serious, trust me, i know alot of NFL fans and they are as mild as they come.

It doesn't make fans better if they act crazier, but it does make fans more serious fans and rivalries rivalries.

PS- After the Sox won the world series, the Yankees/Sox has been anything but a rivalry. It used to be pretty good, pre 2004.

[Nick is cool]

You need to understand one thing. Baseball and Football here are sports of entertainment. Soccer around the world is a sport of religion. Alot of Fanbases are literally gangs, and will attack opposing fans. You don't go into La Bombonera wearing a River Plate shirt or Newells old Boys jersey; you don't walk the Red mile in Calgary during playoffs wearing an Oilers jersey, you just don't and know not too. You can go into The Redskins stadium wearing whatever the hell you want, people as NFL fans don't take the game that serious, trust me, i know alot of NFL fans and they are as mild as they come.

It doesn't make fans better if they act crazier, but it does make fans more serious fans and rivalries rivalries.

PS- After the Sox won the world series, the Yankees/Sox has been anything but a rivalry. It used to be pretty good, pre 2004.






there are obviously some mild nfl fans, as there are with soccer, but theres ALOT of die hard nfl fans that care about football as soccer fans do about soccer


you cant say that every nfl fan is a mild fan just because you know a few that are..

[sweet]

Every time we play michigan *shudders* Weather we win or lose there are crazy riots on campus. They had to ban couches and furniture outside houses on campus because people would burn them after the games. One year it was really bad and a crazy amount of cars were burned after the game. And we won.

[liquid jesus]

I think its funny how many people think American colleges have the best rivalry's. But in reality theres places if you wear the wrong jerseys you'll get stabbed. I think in all of sports its Celtic rangers because this boils down to religion and this is when it gets ugly.

Hockey- Toronto Maple Leafs and Ottawa Senators.
These games get nasty on the ice and off the ice in the stands. Theres been brawls in the parking lots and everywhere.

Baseball- No real rivalries compared to other sports but the red sox and yankees. To me this isnt a rivalry since they play like 20 times a year and nothing happens.

American Football- No one really cares to be honest

The real football- Boca Juniors vs River Plate Argentina
Man city vs man united Man United vs Liverpool West ham vs mill wall. Fenabace vs Galatrasy.

And I think pretty soon Toronto FC and Montreal impact are going to have a really big shit fest because both cities hate each other and toronto fans are nuts and so are the montreal to. Soccer is booming in Canada.


don't give us this bullshit that american fans don't fight each other, go to a cubs/white sox game and sit in the bleachers i gurentee you will see fans beating the shit out of each other, ive seen it myself.

[FuNkYFreSH]

Gatorade vs Powerade

[Just Spurplin]

Said it before, Sox-Yankees. And anyone who disagrees is wrong.

That is such an overrated rivalry, especially now. In my expierence, Red Sox fans have this crazy huge hatred for the Yankees (but it has been dieing lately). And the Yankees fans, if anything, are more like "Well.... I guess if you guys hate us, we should hate you too....?" Most Yankee fans I know really dont have a strong hatred for the Sox. They are basically just being polite and saying "Oh yeah, we hate you guys too." Really, every city hates the Yankees, so they can't be bothered fighting with just one.


My favorite was Wing/Avalance. Growing up in Detroit, that thing like encompassed my soul. Watching The Brawl in Hockey Town was like one of the greatest moments of my life. And seeing Lemieux curl into a ball as McCarty pounded him. I was only 8 years old, and I remember going to bed that night with a huge sense of pride and victory. Then the whole thing just died out. I would love to see it come back, Avalanche just need to play better.


But I voted for Ohio-Michigan.

[Shymega]

there are obviously some mild nfl fans, as there are with soccer, but theres ALOT of die hard nfl fans that care about football as soccer fans do about soccer


you cant say that every nfl fan is a mild fan just because you know a few that are..

I would bet majority of NFL fans are mild. Games i've been to(so called rivalries too) were boring as hell with no atmosphere. The NFL will always have a bad impression left on me.

You know it's a rivalry when, your ice girls(girls who clean the ice between periods or a timeout) get spit on by the opposing players and called names and the goaltender won't leave the crease so the girls can clean the ice.

Lmao, look at the picture.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/6648366

[ryan41]

Lundqvist never leaves his crease, the ice sluts should of backed off.

i think the whole thing got blown out of proportion and blew over in like 2 days.

[Devastation]

So, my sister's dating a Louisville fan (Makes me want to throw up in my mouth). Anyway, she brings him over to my house, and we're sitting down to a steak dinner when he asks me to pass the salt and pepper. I, of course, hand him my UK salt-and-pepper shakers. He said he felt like his hand would burn off. Then he noticed the looks that he got from me, my wife, my cousin, and my older sister.

He later told me it was like being caught shoplifting in a police-store.

[liquid jesus]

I can't believe no one has mentioned the bears/packers rivarly. Its the most historic rivarly in the NFL.

[jn_powell]

No you're wrong. If there is fights, crazy atmosphere and stuff, it means the fans take it that much more seriously. You don't seem to realize this.

I'm sure you wouldn't act civilized if someone punched your mother; well this is how serious fans feel when their team gets scored on.
What is means is that those fans don't know how to handle their excitement/emotion in a civilized manner. If that type of behavior was considered acceptable in a civilized society, one in which people do not resort to violence enmasse at the drop of a hat, I can guarantee you would see soccer style riots at college football games frequently. Fortunately for us we know how to act like grown ups instead of 4 year olds when we go to watch a sporting event. It is not about passion, it is about acceptable social behavior.
I can't believe no one has mentioned the bears/packers rivarly. Its the most historic rivarly in the NFL.
Here you go.
as far as the nfl is concerned there isn't a bigger rivalry than bears vs. packers

in addition to the usual ingredentsthat make a great rivalry its also the oldest in the league and the venues pretty much have stayed the same

[Shymega]

What is means is that those fans don't know how to handle their excitement/emotion in a civilized manner. If that type of behavior was considered acceptable in a civilized society, one in which people do not resort to violence enmasse at the drop of a hat, I can guarantee you would see soccer style riots at college football games frequently. Fortunately for us we know how to act like grown ups instead of 4 year olds when we go to watch a sporting event. It is not about passion, it is about acceptable social behavior.

Here you go.

You don't seem to get it. I reffered to it as like someone punching your mother. Regardless if YOU think people are SUPPOSED to act civilized at sporting events, others just simply CAN'T, because it means that much to them. American sports just don't mean that much to people.

Again, sports here are strictly entertainment, while in other places they are religion, and religion is taken very seriously.

[jn_powell]

You don't seem to get it. I reffered to it as like someone punching your mother. Regardless if YOU think people are SUPPOSED to act civilized at sporting events, others just simply CAN'T, because it means that much to them. American sports just don't mean that much to people.

Again, sports here are strictly entertainment, while in other places they are religion, and religion is taken very seriously.
Jesus titty fucking christ I know what you are saying ok. I fucking get it already so quit saying I don't. But now you quantify it with the word "can't" which makes no God damned sense whatsoever. If people "can't" control themselves then they need to not be allowed out in fucking public. And last I checked I have yet to see First Soccer Church. A sport is not a religion and anyone who thinks that way is an idiot.

[Meio]

And last I checked I have yet to see First Soccer Church.

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/e/u/eukb040519132045.jpg

[jn_powell]

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/e/u/eukb040519132045.jpg
LMAO. Touche.

[322]

England - Germany, football.

Not the biggest but one of my favs.

i agree, and i think they play Aug 25th

[Shymega]

Jesus titty fucking christ I know what you are saying ok. I fucking get it already so quit saying I don't. But now you quantify it with the word "can't" which makes no God damned sense whatsoever. If people "can't" control themselves then they need to not be allowed out in fucking public. And last I checked I have yet to see First Soccer Church. A sport is not a religion and anyone who thinks that way is an idiot.

Lmao, you obviously don't know what i'm saying if you continue to disgree like the idiot you are. What do you think the Celtic-Rangers rivalry is all about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Firm#Rivalry

[jn_powell]

Lmao, you obviously don't know what i'm saying if you continue to disgree like the idiot you are. What do you think the Celtic-Rangers rivalry is all about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Firm#Rivalry
Great argument. Now you have lowered yourself to name calling? Well I am done here.

[Shymega]

Great argument. Now you have lowered yourself to name calling? Well I am done here.

Good answer.:wave:

[poopchow]

just speaking for the NFL, the skins cowboys rivalry has been the greatest, especially over recent years

[sinner78]

You don't seem to get it. I reffered to it as like someone punching your mother. Regardless if YOU think people are SUPPOSED to act civilized at sporting events, others just simply CAN'T, because it means that much to them. American sports just don't mean that much to people.

Again, sports here are strictly entertainment, while in other places they are religion, and religion is taken very seriously.

it definitely has a religious level of support in certain countries.
Its the global working mans game. Teams have 100+ years of history in many cases. In american sports you have franchises that move from town to town. That idea would be unthinkable in the soccer world.

[Nick is cool]

. Teams have 100+ years of history in many cases. .







same can be said for american teams

[sinner78]

same can be said for american teams

so which teams in american sports have the longest history?
most likely the baseball teams. Now thats a sport with a deep history.

[Nick is cool]

so which teams in american sports have the longest history?
most likely the baseball teams. Now thats a sport with a deep history.






Im pretty sure theres baseball teams that started in the 1800s and are still going, but i dont feel like looking it up

[Devastation]

Im pretty sure theres baseball teams that started in the 1800s and are still going, but i dont feel like looking it up

Cincinnati Reds, Chicago Cubs, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals, Los Angeles Dodgers (Brooklyn), San Francisco Giants (New York), Atlanta Braves (Boston), plus other defunct teams, such as the Louisville Grey Stockings.

Baseball is dated to 1845. The National League began play in 1876 (I think). Loads of history there. It's always worth going back and seeing how the game was played in the dead ball era versus the game of today.

[poopchow]

Cincinnati Reds, Chicago Cubs, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals, Los Angeles Dodgers (Brooklyn), San Francisco Giants (New York), Atlanta Braves (Boston), plus other defunct teams, such as the Louisville Grey Stockings.


The phillies and tigers are really old but i dont know how old

[Devastation]

The phillies and tigers are really old but i dont know how old

The Phillies are part of the original AL and go back to the 1870's-80's. The Tigers began with the American League and they've been around since 1901.

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[Joeybits]

Cubs and Cardinals
not really, im just a cardinals fan

[Shymega]

MLB - 1876

NHL - 1915

NFL - 1920

NBA - 1946

Soccer goes back to the freakin stone age, i know most English teams are well before the 1900's.

[Nick is cool]

MLB - 1876

NHL - 1915

NFL - 1920

NBA - 1946

Soccer goes back to the freakin stone age, i know most English teams are well before the 1900's.






dev just said baseball is dated back to 1845

[SneakerPIMP]

Is rabidness what is being counted as defining the intensity of a rivalry...if that's the case I think any english football is going to win hands down. The sheer insanity that goes on there before rivalty derby's is unheard of in the states IMO.

[Fag Boy]

so which teams in american sports have the longest history?
most likely the baseball teams. Now thats a sport with a deep history.

How many times are people going to have to say it. The NFL is not the only popular football leauge in America.

[Meio]

it definitely has a religious level of support in certain countries.
Its the global working mans game. Teams have 100+ years of history in many cases. In american sports you have franchises that move from town to town. That idea would be unthinkable in the soccer world.

Yeah it just doesn't work that way, just look at Wimbledon/MK Dons.

[sinner78]

MLB - 1876

NHL - 1915

NFL - 1920

NBA - 1946

Soccer goes back to the freakin stone age, i know most English teams are well before the 1900's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notts_County_F.C.#Formation

I believe the longest surviving team was formed in 1862


How many times are people going to have to say it. The NFL is not the only popular football leauge in America.


sure there are a number of popular leagues. College football being the sport with the most rabid fans.


Yeah it just doesn't work that way, just look at Wimbledon/MK Dons.


They are a small time team with hardly any support. When they were playing at selhurst park they had crowds of 4000 tops. In american sports franchises have moved countless times .That wimbledon move will never be repeated.

[SIKKENT]

i know for a fact that the melbourne football club was formed in 1858, its older then the fucking country its from. the third oldest football side of any code (NFL/soccer/rugby) in the world. celebrated its 149th birthday yesterday.


according to this, theres 6 older teams then MFC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_football_club

[Meio]

They are a small time team with hardly any support. When they were playing at selhurst park they had crowds of 4000 tops. In american sports franchises have moved countless times .That wimbledon move will never be repeated.

Selhurst Park wasn't their ground, they were sharing it on a temporary basis. I know about the franchise system in US sports, same applies to American sports in Europe to a certain degree (London Monarchs = Berlin Thunder). The whole thing with English style sports is that this doesn't engender enthusiasm.
English sporting clubs are traditionally much more integrated into the local community. In the olden days players would be from the factory next door, the ground and the players would be paid for from the gate reciepts, and the managers would be old players. The US system is to have the clubs owned by the league, with the league saying what players they are allowed to have, how much money they receive and can spend, and where the club is based, this just doesn't make sense to English fans. Just look at FC United Manchester and AFC Wimbledon.
So I'm agreeing with you, with colour.
I just don't think Wimbledon were always 'small time' they just lost support when they moved out of their own ground without a good local replacement.

[Shymega]

dev just said baseball is dated back to 1845

Yes it is, like hockey dates back to 1810 and basketball to 1998 :lmao:

[blackeyedpoops]

That is such an overrated rivalry, especially now. In my expierence, Red Sox fans have this crazy huge hatred for the Yankees (but it has been dieing lately). And the Yankees fans, if anything, are more like "Well.... I guess if you guys hate us, we should hate you too....?" Most Yankee fans I know really dont have a strong hatred for the Sox. They are basically just being polite and saying "Oh yeah, we hate you guys too." Really, every city hates the Yankees, so they can't be bothered fighting with just one.




obviously you've never been to a red sox yankees game. no offense, but what you just said is mostly wrong except the part when you said red sox fans have a huge hatred for yankees.

[Ganster-T]

OSU vs. Michigan in football.

[4savo4]

City and United aint even a rivalry to be honest, it's just a derby.

[The Messiah]

Manchester United v Liverpool more like.

[wackojacko]

Rivalries can only reach out so far until they head into ANOTHER populations favorite rivalry. Everyone thinks that their match-up is the most extreme.

Combine the excitement of a Yankees and Red Sox rivalry, an Ohio State-Michigan game, sprinkle some Manchester United-Liverpool on top and I would still care more about the Red River Shootout.

[cormega]

Oh I see. In order for there to be a rivalry our fans need to make complete jackasses out of themselves instead of doing what they do here and acting like the civilized people we are. I will make sure to pass the word on.

You dont understand the passion the fans think their part of the team and they will do anything i mean anything for their team to win. I gurantee if you watched a match in Europe or south america or even Toronto youd shit your pants.

[gameshot911]

I'm voting for the oldest college football rivalry in the US.... Lehigh vs. Lafayette!

[piggyman18]

I'm voting for the oldest college football rivalry in the US.... Lehigh vs. Lafayette!

Although I sense the sarcasm, it's actually a very valid argument.

After going to OSU-Mich last year, that's the clear answer.

[Nick is cool]

You dont understand the passion the fans think their part of the team and they will do anything i mean anything for their team to win. I gurantee if you watched a match in Europe or south america or even Toronto youd shit your pants.







ya because fighting the other fans and riotings will help the players win..?

[Meio]

ya because fighting the other fans and riotings will help the players win..?

A big riot on the pitch used to get the game stopped and rescheduled in England... the FA soon clocked that though.

[Devastation]

dev just said baseball is dated back to 1845

Yeah, but the original National League was founded in 1876.

[UncleJemima83]

just speaking for the NFL, the skins cowboys rivalry has been the greatest, especially over recent years

when was the last time the skins have actually been good? not in this decade

[poopchow]

when was the last time the skins have actually been good? not in this decade

Arguably two of the craziest finishes of any games in the past 2 years came from the Skins and Cowboys.

since gibbs has come back the series is tied at 3-3

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6999442657812411653&q=Redskins+week+9&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

and the unforgettable game
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2031781409

[UncleJemima83]

Arguably two of the craziest finishes of any games in the past 2 years came from the Skins and Cowboys.

since gibbs has come back the series is tied at 3-3

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6999442657812411653&q=Redskins+week+9&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

and the unforgettable game
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2031781409


once again...when was the last time the skins have been any good?


btw two receient good games do not make up for the fact that the bears and packers:
1. are only 200 miles apart from each other
2. have the most/second most championships
3. also have over 50 combined members of the hall of fame
4. have played each other 173 times.
5. combined to win every nfc north/central division championship in the current decade
6. play in two of the top five most historic venues (packers in top three of all major AMERICAN sports - fenway & yankees)

[poopchow]

once again...when was the last time the skins have been any good?


btw two receient good games do not make up for the fact that the bears and packers:
1. are only 200 miles apart from each other
2. have the most/second most championships
3. also have over 50 combined members of the hall of fame
4. have played each other 173 times.
5. combined to win every nfc north/central division championship in the current decade
6. play in two of the top five most historic venues (packers in top three of all major AMERICAN sports - fenway & yankees)

Sorry i thought you said when was the last time the rivarly has been good. The skins made it to the divisional round 2 years ago, and although this decade hasnt been the best for the skins, its not like the Packers and Chicago has had the best luck overall in the past 5-7 years. Before two years ago, the bears were filth besides the year when the A train came along. The packers have been almost irrelevant last few years. Also, you are trying to brag about winning the NFC North. Thats like someone bragging about beating up a five year old.

When the skins and cowboys play, its more nationally recognized than when the pack play the bears. Thats a fact.

[Ado]

Bosnia vs Serbia - Football (or any other sport)

Deaths after every match between them. Trust me, I'm not kidding.

[viper22]

Edmonton and Calgary id say...


fuck you calgary

[varybarry]

I think Yankees-Red Sox is a pretty serious one and the Celtic-Lakers too.

[Spike Lee]

Are you trying to say that fighting is an indication of a good rivalry. I find it an indication of idiocy personally. This is a game. A rivalry should consist of mutual respect mixed with a little bit of disdain and a lot of good competition. That is why I think the Boston/New York thing is a little overrated. New York has been dominating for decades until just recently.

EDIT: Except, ofcourse, for the NHL where fighting (on the ice in the course of the game) is a part of the sport.

If it gets your blood boiling then it is a true rivalry.

[wbransdo]

I voted for Michigan-Ohio State... I don't know of any other rivalry that can get as heated as this. The entire season can be boiled down to this game for these two teams, and usually, for the Big Ten in its entirety.

Granted, I don't live in Europe where futbol seems to get extremely intense. (I nearly voted for Barcelona - Real Madrid).

College football is less than a week away!!

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[saharmalika]

Toronto - Montreal.