Official Super Smash Bros. Brawl Thread

[Sketcher]

It seems as though almost every time theres an update on the game (which is every day), there's a new thread created about the update. So let's all just keep it in one thread from now on.

Todays update: Diddy Kong is announced as a character. Not really surprising, I think we all expected him to be in the game. But just seeing it officially now is making me even more excited for this game.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/diddykong.html

[Shackelford]

Cool. I want Shy Guy to be in

[BYOB(SOAD)]

This is one of my favorite update so far. Diddy was my most wanted character :D

[Nickster]

I would have came, but my scotum exploded. Fuuuuuuuuccckkkk yeeeeesss.

Too bad for fucking copyright bullshit, look at all the awesome charaters we could have gotten, Banjo & Kazooie, Megaman..... uh...... I'm drawing a blank.

And FLUUD is going to be an item, I fucking know it.

[bukowski]

FLUUD will have a part. This game is filled to the brim with refrences to every nintendo game it's almost impossible that he doesn't make an appearance. Although he will most likely be an accesory exclusive to Mario.

As for the update, it's cool, but expected.

I'm hyped for this game and have no qualms with who they add and leave out. There are two things I want from this game really. Lucas as a character and Fierce Deity Mask as Young Links final smash.

[Al Paccioli]

Fierce Deity was so fucking broken lol

[IGneois]

There are two things I want from this game really. Lucas as a character and Fierce Deity Mask as Young Links final smash.
I thought they were scraping copy cat characters, i guess if they make him different, but seriously young link could vanish

[Life On Mars]

Maybe they'll add Banjo-Kazooie next

[stright DIPSET]

It would be cool if link could have the three main mask in majoras mask and be able to wear and change them during the match.

[doorknobopener]

There are two things I want from this game really. Lucas as a character and Fierce Deity Mask as Young Links final smash.

It would be cool if link could have the three main mask in majoras mask and be able to wear and change them during the match.
Dude you guys were totally reading my mind

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Wow ... Who knew Yoshi could fly ? :O

[Dzo]

Too bad for fucking copyright bullshit, look at all the awesome charaters we could have gotten, Banjo & Kazooie, Megaman..... uh...... I'm drawing a blank.




Banjo and Kazooie would have been great. Probably like the iceclimbers in melee....i loved me some iceclimbers.

[Frostdaddy]

Wow ... Who knew Yoshi could fly ? :O
Yoshi could fly in his debut in Super Mario World with the aid of a blue shell. He could also spit flames with a red shell, so it's not like this Final Smash is something completely new to Yoshi. He's been there, done that, but now he just looks more badass.

[Sepharih]

Where the hell is Sonic already?!? This is the one game on the Wii I actually give a damn about and am going to play on my friends console. He and I have been wanting to duke it out as Mario and Sonic respectively for a long time.

[doorknobopener]

Yoshi could fly in his debut in Super Mario World with the aid of a blue shell. He could also spit flames with a red shell, so it's not like this Final Smash is something completely new to Yoshi. He's been there, done that, but now he just looks more badass.
There were also some blocks that when hit wings pop out that Yoshi could combine with

[Sketcher]

Where the hell is Sonic already?!? This is the one game on the Wii I actually give a damn about and am going to play on my friends console. He and I have been wanting to duke it out as Mario and Sonic respectively for a long time.

Nintendo most likely knows that Sonic is the most wanted character, so if they do in fact put him in there, they might keep it a secret until it's released.

And even if they do put him in there and not keep him a secret, he's probably going to be an unlockable character and right now, I don't think they're releasing any names of unlockable characters yet.

And today, the first boss is announced. Fuck this game is going to rock.

[IGneois]

haha the bro and i caught petey during the subspace movie. he was convinced he was a playable character..i told him he was a dumbass.

but if hes anything like on strikers, he'll be a pain in the ass.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Its totally up to Sega for Sonic. I rather have knuckles than Sonic though ...

[SAPAiC]

Whos the first boss?

[blazed]

Truthfully, when I got the wii, I was rather disappointed by the lack of control precision. The wii stick seems to lag then over sensitize if moved too quickly. Even Duck Hunt on Super Nintendo has more precise RF positions on the screen than the wii. Idk, I may be retarded and had done something wrong with the controller/controller module setup; I do put the receiver module thing on the tv right?

[R3isDangerous]

^^ put it on the stand then on the tv fool around in options and figure out what settings make you happy(i hated the stock control..too sensitive)

[Sketcher]

For SSBB, though, I think I'm going to be using a GameCube controller. I can't see how the Wii-mote would be good for playing a side-scrolling fighting game.

BTW, do they only update weekdays? There hasn't been an update since Friday.

[Sepharih]

For SSBB, though, I think I'm going to be using a GameCube controller. I can't see how the Wii-mote would be good for playing a side-scrolling fighting game.
I thought the motion sensing function didn't even work for SSBB at all?

[Shackelford]

There's 4 different styles

Remote w/ nunchuck
Remote w/o nunchuck
Classic Controller
Gamecube Controller

[Frostdaddy]

The SSBB site seems to be down a lot.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

For SSBB, though, I think I'm going to be using a GameCube controller. I can't see how the Wii-mote would be good for playing a side-scrolling fighting game.

BTW, do they only update weekdays? There hasn't been an update since Friday.

Daily Weekday Updates!

You are correct. They have the weekends off of course lol

The new item today looks badass. Even more hyped !!

[Bicepto]

hopefully mario is in it

[Cju]

Ha, Andross is the newest update. The old Andross as well, looks great :D

[Sketcher]

New stage today:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage10.html

[StarmanFinal]

New stage today:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage10.html

That looks fucking awesome, I assume the level "changes" every 5 seconds or something?

[Sketcher]

And a new cut scene.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

I can't wait to play the subspace army mode. They're finally making SSB just as good a single-player game as much as a multi-player game.

[Well Me]

Interesting, on the list of characters I dont see solid snake im 99% sure that he was confirmed as playable.

Theyd better have megaman. I might actually buy it if it has megaman.

[Sketcher]

Interesting, on the list of characters I dont see solid snake im 99% sure that he was confirmed as playable.

He was confirmed. So was Metaknight, but he's not on the official list yet. I think that's because those characters are characters you have to unlock in order to play as them. I think right now, they're just listing the default characters.

[DrGyro]

you know, sony should beg nintendo to put some of their characters in like that guy from konami...oh wait, they dont have any cool characters...

[ocpunk37]

snake is gona be in...hes a hidden character...gotta win him

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Todays update is freaking awesome !!!

[Sepharih]

you know, sony should beg nintendo to put some of their characters in like that guy from konami...oh wait, they dont have any cool characters...

Kratos, God of War.

[Nickster]

I heard somewhere (okay, wikipedia, fuck off) that Hideo Kojima actually did beg for Snake to be in the game. Snake is pretty badass, but is he really a plausible character? I also heard he can't use any guns in Brawl, so they might have to really think hard to come up with some moves, and what the fuck are they going to do for a final smash? Cloud might have been a more plausible third party character, or maybe some other playstation guy I'm too lazy to look up.

Nice update though, but how the hell does a peanut shooting gun explode? Oh well, this game is going to be tits.

Does anyone have a single good reason why Megaman can't be in this game? Anyone?

[Shackelford]

Still say Leon from Resident Evil 4 should be in. Snakes games weren't system sellers for Nintendo's like Leons. Either way I still can't wait to see who else is in.

[Al Paccioli]

you know, sony should beg nintendo to put some of their characters in like that guy from konami...oh wait, they dont have any cool characters...

Kill yourself.

[Nickster]

Wheeee!!! My turn baby! Meta-fucking-knight announced!!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/metaknight.html

Awesome, hail to the king... uh... knight.

[Sketcher]

Wheeee!!! My turn baby! Meta-fucking-knight announced!!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/metaknight.html

Awesome, hail to the king... uh... knight.

I've never noticed this before, but is he wearing boxing gloves?

[Frostdaddy]

You'll notice that Nintendo has appeased the F.L.U.D.D. fanboys.

[DrGyro]

im afraid this game might be too "chance heavy". for example, you can be handing somebody his ass, then that idiot manages to get all the good items, like the assist trophies and smash ball.

[Sketcher]

im afraid this game might be too "chance heavy". for example, you can be handing somebody his ass, then that idiot manages to get all the good items, like the assist trophies and smash ball.

You could always turn items off, which my friends and I always do. Smash Bros. tournaments even turn items off to make it completely fair.

[Lounge Fly]

SSB ia such an overated game

[Nickster]

^
Bizarro? Is that you?
get the fuck out
get the fuck out
I was more hoping that FLUUD would be a item, Kirby's warp star is an item, the screw attack is an item, the bunny hood is an item. Why can't FLUUD be an item? :confused:
get the fuck out
But whatever, I'll get over it.
get the fuck out
Damn, can't wait for this motherfucker Imma gonna play me sum Melee.
get the fuck out
get the fuck out
get the fuck out

[BYOB(SOAD)]

SSB ia such an overated game

You're one of the very few that thinks that way. There is no way in hell its overrated.

[Sketcher]

SNAKE!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

[BYOB(SOAD)]

SNAKE!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

Fucking awesome update !!

[IGneois]

SSB ia such an overated game

its on mountain dew bottles

[Sketcher]

New Snake footage.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

I've never been this excited for a game.

[SwyfT]

The stage and other Snake conversations are one panel below that. I really hope this stays true to SSBM. If there isn't short-hopping or l-canceling im gonna be pissed.

"He can also attack by farting, he uses farting to fly around"

"By farting? Are you kidding me!?"

Good stuff.

[supz]

WTF?! why'd they take Dr. Mario out of the game? That was my favorite character.

[Sketcher]

WTF?! why'd they take Dr. Mario out of the game? That was my favorite character.

They haven't given us the entire character list yet. More characters, old and new, are being introduced almost weekly.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

WTF?! why'd they take Dr. Mario out of the game? That was my favorite character.

They haven't given us the entire character list yet. More characters, old and new, are being introduced almost weekly.

Exactly, we don't know the exact list of who returns and who gets cut off. But it would be nice if we don't get any clones.

[SwyfT]

Exactly, we don't know the exact list of who returns and who gets cut off. But it would be nice if we don't get any clones.

If they have to chose between Marth and Roy, they better pick Marth. It's bad enough losing Falco out to Fox. I better practice trying to get shuffling down before this bad boy comes out. I can usually Shorthop/fastfall or shorthop/cancel, but not all 3.

[SwyfT]

One more question, what does everyone use to jump? I see alot of people tout about using the X button, but i always use the Y button, would i be any better switching over?

Using the Y button I don't have to move my thumb at all and position it between Y,A, and B... I can see possibly having an easier time chaining things with X... but I don't see the point of using X over Y

[McShady]

If they have to chose between Marth and Roy, they better pick Marth. It's bad enough losing Falco out to Fox. I better practice trying to get shuffling down before this bad boy comes out. I can usually Shorthop/fastfall or shorthop/cancel, but not all 3.

What's wrong with Fox? He is way better than Falco. Besides, it wasn't called StarFalco 64.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

co-op play!!!!

[SwyfT]

What's wrong with Fox? He is way better than Falco. Besides, it wasn't called StarFalco 64.

Yea well my Falco could beat up your Fox anyday!!
Anyways, Falco's Dair smokes Fox's and his shine is much better. The only time i've ever seen Fox's Shine work well is when some guy WD Chain-Shined a guy to the other side of FD. I'm a Dair freak so Falco works much better for me.

[sublimej311]

Yea well my Falco could beat up your Fox anyday!!
Anyways, Falco's Dair smokes Fox's and his shine is much better. The only time i've ever seen Fox's Shine work well is when some guy WD Chain-Shined a guy to the other side of FD. I'm a Dair freak so Falco works much better for me.

I never played Melee, what does all of this mean? Was all this stuff in the N64 version? It sounds interesting.

[SwyfT]

I never played Melee, what does all of this mean? Was all this stuff in the N64 version? It sounds interesting.

Dair (Down air attack)
WD (Wavedash)
Shine (Down B for falco./fox)
FD (Final Destination, master hand map)

If you've never played melee get it. It's much more technical than SSB

[Al Paccioli]

Yeah the down air attacks that can automatically send you flying down are very useful.

[Sketcher]

SONIC! Holy fucking shit I was not actually expecting this!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/sonic.html

I'm not going to be able to stop smiling for a week after seeing the video.

[PsiRedEye22]

I am not going to stop my death threats to Nintendo until I see tom Nook in that game.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

omg ... I wasnt expecting this at all.... This game is now complete !

[Sepharih]

SONIC! Holy fucking shit I was not actually expecting this!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/sonic.html

I'm not going to be able to stop smiling for a week after seeing the video.

THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! The Wii....The Wii...the...

Oh fuck it. Who am I kidding? I've literally been dreaming about this ever since I had my first game gear. You win Nintendo. You've got my 300 bucks. Oh, and fuck you.

A toast to Sonic the Hedgehog. Here's hopping he makes a comeback.

[xeoset]

THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! THE Wii SUCKS! The Wii....The Wii...the...

Oh fuck it. Who am I kidding? I've literally been dreaming about this ever since I had my first game gear. You win Nintendo. You've got my 300 bucks. Oh, and fuck you.

A toast to Sonic the Hedgehog. Here's hopping he makes a comeback.

QFT.

I now officially care for this game! The only reason I've been damn following this is for the news he may turn up in it.

Needs more Knuckles though.

[gigglemuffin]

Now we just need Megaman and Banjo and I'll damn near shit my pants. I'm so happy with Sonic though.

[Sketcher]

That's the ONLY bad thing about adding Sonic - it opens up a whole new can of worms.

"Well, they put in Sonic, why can't they put in Megaman?"

"Well, they put in Megaman, why can't they put in Banjo?"

"Well, they put in Banjo, why can't they put in Cloud?"

"Well, they put in Cloud, why can't they......."

Because we want the game to come out sometime in the near future, that's why!

Fuck, they give gamers what they want and now it's not enough.

They already said that there's going to be about 40 characters in the game. Only half that many have been announced so far. So don't give you're hopes up yet if your character isn't there yet.

[skater910]

I don't want to hear anyone whine about characters not being in it. I was annoyed to no end by people constantly saying "WTF GAEM NEEDS MOAR SONIC OMG!!1" Now that they made that happen, the bitching better be done. If they didn't add him in Brawl, we'd hear it to no end. This is the only reason I want Sonic in; it shuts people up, hopefully. And then, of course, we have the "If they have Snake and Sonic, why not ________?" You wanna know why? Because. Simple as that.

[rsnyper]

SONIC! Holy fucking shit I was not actually expecting this!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/sonic.html

I'm not going to be able to stop smiling for a week after seeing the video.

I just saw it like right now! im fucking PUMPED

[BYOB(SOAD)]

That's the ONLY bad thing about adding Sonic - it opens up a whole new can of worms.

"Well, they put in Sonic, why can't they put in Megaman?"

"Well, they put in Megaman, why can't they put in Banjo?"

"Well, they put in Banjo, why can't they put in Cloud?"

"Well, they put in Cloud, why can't they......."

Because we want the game to come out sometime in the near future, that's why!

Fuck, they give gamers what they want and now it's not enough.

They already said that there's going to be about 40 characters in the game. Only half that many have been announced so far. So don't give you're hopes up yet if your character isn't there yet.

Agreed, they can only add a certain number of characters.

[rand0m]

wow this thread is stickied. Forums getting a bit clogged, ill pm a mod to remove the exclusives list.

[IGneois]

alright, we got da sticky.

yeah this is getting pretty sweet, with the latest updates i only got the small cringe at the pushed release date.

Sonic is is brawl, yay!, but i wasnt pushing for sonic any, it was all for that cleaning robot.

but...this does mean 2 more months for exciting updates at the DOJO!!!!1


hahahaha thats not worth it, but it gives me something to do on the internet

[R3isDangerous]

good new --sonic has been formally released and everyone is so excited BUT
bad news==the game has been pushed back til February

[Sketcher]

New stage:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage14.html

[IGneois]

cant really say if i like it or not..


looks like a big mess..

[Nickster]

Is it jsut me or are alot of the stages just platforms with a nintendo game setting in the background?:squint:

Also, don't fuck with the ultimate Chimera.

[IGneois]

Is it jsut me or are alot of the stages just platforms with a nintendo game setting in the background?:squint:

Also, don't fuck with the ultimate Chimera.

yeah... more anti gravity stages

[BYOB(SOAD)]

I love the new update. They are adding more online features :)

[IGneois]

Anyone checking out the wiimote controlls? it doesnt look to friendly to me, especially jumping and grabbing. I wanted somehow to have some motion control in the game, tilted running and rising the remote to jump, something like that since there will be 4 modes i dont see why not.

but i can see how it would be difficult to play like that, just thought it could be an option.

I figure ill use the gamecube controller since i dodge like a nigger child from a coat hanger.

[SwyfT]

Well it's official. This game is going to suck. I'm looking on the controller scheme and i'm not seeing any l-cancel. And also no extra button for jumping. That REALLY dumbs down the game.

...No thanks.

No Shffl, no Wavedash, no wavelanding, no wall/edge teching? I'm really going to enjoy a game where the top tier meta-game consists of short hopping and constant rolling... oh wait no i'm not.

They could still turn it around I guess, but this is a pretty grim looking situation.

/rant

[IGneois]

Well it's official. This game is going to suck. I'm looking on the controller scheme and i'm not seeing any l-cancel. And also no extra button for jumping. That REALLY dumbs down the game.

...No thanks.

No Shffl, no Wavedash, no wavelanding, no wall/edge teching? I'm really going to enjoy a game where the top tier meta-game consists of short hopping and constant rolling... oh wait no i'm not.

They could still turn it around I guess, but this is a pretty grim looking situation.

/rant

you do relize there are FOUR different controller configurations. Wiimote sideways, wiimote and nunchuck, Classic controller, and GAMECUBE controller.


maybe its people like you that call shenanigans on a game in complete ignorance.

[SwyfT]

you do relize there are FOUR different controller configurations. Wiimote sideways, wiimote and nunchuck, Classic controller, and GAMECUBE controller.


maybe its people like you that call shenanigans on a game in complete ignorance.

I was hoping the last line and the /rant would tip you off that it was a rant post.

Lets just say that for some reason they limit features on some controllers and not others. Where would the L-cancel lie on the classic? The pin sized L2 button?

So then lets say that the only useful controller now is a gamecube controller. Are they really going to make people search for a controller that is hardly available anywhere? I really don't see how it's farfetched that they would drop L-cancelling and simplify it for a controller that everyone uses.

Unless your saying that SSBB without L-canceling would still be a great game, then i completely disagree. Say goodbye to any SSBB tournies after 6 months and back to Melee.

Especially with this gem of a quote to go with it: "
Brawl is being made with the casual player in mind first."

[IGneois]

yeah im sure they are actually expecting anyone to use just the wiimote seriously. its not hard to throw a remote configuration in there so they have done it. stop knocking things especially since you dont know how the next controller set ups will work.

i never knew a game that is actually trying to keep its fans happy and add what we are wanting.

if you know the glory of melee, i would hope you own a gamecube controller, and if you cant somehow come by one , which i see in gamestop, walmart and even movie gallery (video rental), then you need to ask mommy to drive you somewhere else.

again you are making assumptions that were only thought about while typing your response.

and the l-canceling technique is done with your dodge/shield button. i dont know what your are thinking about since your B is shield on the wiimote.

[bukowski]

Reasons swyft doesn't like Brawl:

It does not let you abuse GLITCHES like Melee did.
Different artwork than the Melee box
Doesn't strictly require the same controller Melee used.
Disc Brawl's on is bigger than the disc Melee was on.
Brawl is for the Wii, unlike Melee which was on the Gamecube
It has characters and content Melee did not have.
It is not Melee.

[SwyfT]

blah blah blah.

So it's apparently official. There is L-canceling, but it reduces aerial lag so little(because the game itself has very little aerial lag) that it is basically useless. No WD either, which I did expect. So basically any intermediate player can be just as good as the pros. Thats great for tournaments... oh wait.

copypasta from smash boards.

Try harder. Someone sucked pretty bad at Melee if he didn't like the so-called GLITCHES (like shffl was a glitch? ahahah). But hey, i can see why your looking forward to this game. Better practice up those 15 minute roll matches.

I can see how the copypasta is trying to humor itself by embracing a change. But to wish for no new adv techs?

[bukowski]

It's not copypasta, but it isn't an original idea either.

Honestly, I'm not to fond of Melee. Mainly because Ness and Kirby, my two favorite Nintendo characters sucked in it. I just didn't want to play with characters I don't care for(Fox, Marth and Sheik) just so I could compete with my friends on an even level. They took a whole lot of fun away from the game for me by playing competitively. I mastered both Ness and Kirby, but it was just useless against top tier characters.

I don't care much for advanced techniques and such. I'm sure that there will be a learning curve strong enough to give people who play Brawl a lot a large advantage over those who don't. Besides, how do you know that there aren't any advanced techniques in it? It's not like you've played the game hands on long enough to discover if they exist or not.

Anyways, go back to bed Dylan.

[gigglemuffin]

if you think it will suck, it probably will, for YOU. Its gonna kick ass for pretty much everyone else. you go ahead and play melee, while i'll be online kicking ass with wario.

EDIT: And diddy kong

[PsiRedEye22]

The only reason to play this game for me, besides being eternally happy, is going to be throwing people into a pot with Kirby.

Did anyone else see Little Mac on the Dojo front page and almost shit themselves, then get disappointed to figure out he was only a trophy?

[IGneois]

most people that use wave dashing dont even use it for combat, more so for psyching people out.

i guess you should be paranoid, seeing melee was the best of all games.
im gonna check todays update. DAmn, peach final smash.... fridays usually brings something more entertaining to think about. pretty boring to me, like the real peach idea.

[Sketcher]

most people that use wave dashing dont even use it for combat, more so for psyching people out.

I use it for combat sometimes, but it has to be used carefully.

[IGneois]

I use it for combat sometimes, but it has to be used carefully.

i use L-cancel tons more, but the WD one combat is actually going underway, i see a chance where its worth doing when i should be thinking about me next attack or so. but spread across screen you can dance a bit and i presume they wont understand which direction you'll end up facing on the attack. then again i didnt practice too kindly on WD after reading up on Ken's view of it.



p.s, boring final smash from peach, but she is boring so i dont think i could think of a better one.

[McShady]

Haha yeah peach is boring. they should remove her or something, no one i know ever uses her.

but im sure mario wouldn't think to kindly of that.

[PsiRedEye22]

Peach is pretty good. Even in melee, she had very decent attacks, and was probably the best character to use against projectile-heavy characters. Her final smash looks defensive, which is a neat new strategy. If you're looking for explosions everywhere for everything, you may want to consider playing something else. I pray that everyone will play differently, because what else is the point of putting them in the game?

[IGneois]

Heh, peaches final smash doesnt really mean attribute with her other than her name. i didn't know she was such a good dancer (or bad), but i sit here and think how else they could make people sleepy, but i cant because shes just a boring ass princess. which might do it.

in melee, or down smash was the ass kicker, a friend only hit c-stick down, and ran around with her.

i like the c-stick, but some people abuse it way too much, which im hoping doesnt make it in brawl.

[Sketcher]

I pray that everyone will play differently, because what else is the point of putting them in the game?

In both Smash Bros games so far, there were those two or three big characters that EVERYONE plays as. In Brawl, two of them are definitely going to be Sonic and Snake. So if I ever plan on playing in tournaments, I'll concentrate mainly on fighting Sonics and Snakes for practice.

[McShady]

In both Smash Bros games so far, there were those two or three big characters that EVERYONE plays as. In Brawl, two of them are definitely going to be Sonic and Snake. So if I ever plan on playing in tournaments, I'll concentrate mainly on fighting Sonics and Snakes for practice.

How do you know without having played it yet?! Plus you gotta know Fox is going to stay dominant, no arguing that.

The new map reminds me of the Pokemon map from SSBM. The one where floating pokemon were everywhere and there was no main ground, just pokemon.

[IGneois]

pokefloats.


yeah genereally i disreguard movable maps, but this one looks entertaining, especially if they have a whole arsenal full of different pictures, maybe a stock of 100 plus. hopefully more.

[Sketcher]

How do you know without having played it yet?! Plus you gotta know Fox is going to stay dominant, no arguing that.

I'm just guessing based on what I've seen with the other two games. But this one is supposed to have a shit load of characters in it so hopefully that won't be the case.

[GNR Fan]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/iceclimbers.html

I hate these little cock suckers I wish they weren't in this one.

[bukowski]

I just caught wind of the pictochat stage and my first thought was that they better include the one thing anyone really used it for, drawing dicks.

[PsiRedEye22]

I would like a dick level. Maybe Donkey Kong with a big, soggy trouser snake.

[bukowski]

While we're at it, there should be a stage for Snake's perfectly sculpted ass (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8354/1193119259980in3.jpg).

[Cju]

While we're at it, there should be a stage for Snake's perfectly sculpted ass (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8354/1193119259980in3.jpg).

Thanks for that :lol:
You can save replays and send them to people! :D
I always liked the target practice levels.


and now
King Dedede!

[McShady]

What game is King Dedede from? He looks like he comes from the Ice Climber's game, which I have never played.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

What game is King Dedede from? He looks like he comes from the Ice Climber's game, which I have never played.

Hes from the Kirby series.

[gigglemuffin]

King Dedede and King K. Rool should be in the game.


EDIT:Lol didnt even check the updates King DDD is gonna kick ass!

[Sketcher]

King Dedede looks like another one of those characters that you will never see anyone use.

[Ado]

King Dedede looks like another one of those characters that you will never see anyone use.

Brawl seems to go in the follow direction : brute force VS speed characters
With Dedede being a brute force char, whatever you'll style I guess

[BYOB(SOAD)]

King Dedede looks like another one of those characters that you will never see anyone use.

We haven't seen him in action yet. but I do agree with you.

[SwyfT]

King Dedede? Meta-knight and kirby weren't enough from that series?

[sublimej311]

Man, they keep churning out these characters and maps like crazy. Anyone know about how many playable characters there will be, and about how many have been announced?

[Cju]

I hope they bring out Mega man. That would be awesome.
and if Rare allows them, Conker/Banjo Kazooie too.

But thats just wishful thinking :rolleyes:

[Sketcher]

Man, they keep churning out these characters and maps like crazy. Anyone know about how many playable characters there will be, and about how many have been announced?

There's only been 23 announced so far, but they said there's going to be about 40 characters total.

[sublimej311]

There's only been 23 announced so far, but they said there's going to be about 40 characters total.

damn, that's insane. thanks for the info.

[Cju]

HOLY FUCKBALLS.

Stage Builder :raiseeyeb:raiseeyeb

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Im pretty sure this game wins game of the year 08 after an awesome update like the stage builder.

[Frostdaddy]

Wow, orgasmic stage builder.

[Cju]

I don't think I'll ever want to buy another Wii game after this, everything I want is already there :D

[Sketcher]

Im pretty sure this game wins game of the year 08 after an awesome update like the stage builder.

This actually makes me glad that it's not coming out until 08. That just means it doesn't have to compete with Halo 3 for game of the year.

This is supposedly the last SSB game so that means they're going all out on this one. Once this comes out, I will never be bored again.

[IGneois]

Its true..but what do we do until it comes out?!?

...thats what is fucking killing me...





penis stage anyone?

[SwyfT]

Fox Only
No Items
Flat Line in Stage Builder


I can see it now.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Its true..but what do we do until it comes out?!?

...thats what is fucking killing me...




penis stage anyone?

Im playing Guitar Hero 3 until then.

[IGneois]

Im playing Guitar Hero 3 until then.

im still thinking about it... but 90 bucks is a lot to spring on a game..


..only when i sit and think i could get...2 games...

probably get it this weekend

[Molson]

That's it..... I must have a Wii.

[IGneois]

i was missing these from melee...

....the intro scenes


..yay.

[OLIAX]

why the fuck is this a sticky?

[IGneois]

why the fuck is this a sticky?

this game is so godly... mods like it.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

why the fuck is this a sticky?

Idiot alert !

[Sketcher]

why the fuck is this a sticky?

I asked one of the mods to make it a sticky because even though we had this official thread, every time there was an update on the game (which is every weekday), every dumbfuck would make a thread about it instead of posting about it here.

Oh, and because the game is badass.

[McShady]

So basically the assist trophies are like pokeballs?

[IGneois]

basically .

[BYOB(SOAD)]

I liked todays update. I just hate the fact you dont know who you will go against and no information at all.

[SwyfT]

Sweet a spectator mode, now i wont have to search on youtube

[xxgame]

OK.................................

[IGneois]

OK.................................

post of the year!!1

[BYOB(SOAD)]

I hate waiting for this game ...

[McShady]

post of the year!!1

runner up!!!!1

[bukowski]

Wicked, Sin and Punishment is getting some representation. To bad nobody besides me knows what the fuck that game is.

[SwyfT]

They brought back the worst stage in melee?

[BYOB(SOAD)]

They brought back the worst stage in melee?

Its a fan favorite so they had to bring it back.

[IGneois]

They brought back the worst stage in melee?
haha i get you now... you like to be a pointless dick eh?

[bukowski]

They brought back the worst stage in melee?

Aww, is the tourneyfag depressed because they didn't announce final destination?

[IGneois]

Aww, is the tourneyfag depressed because they didn't announce final destination?

that would be nice, but we have stage builder and any straight line will do.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Man .. We would be playing it right now if there wasn't a delay :(

[Sketcher]

They haven't announced a new character in a month. Is this all we're getting? They told us there'd be about 40 characters.

[SwyfT]

Aww, is the tourneyfag depressed because they didn't announce final destination?

Nah, I just don't like how shitty that level is. The 64 Temple was 10x better than that shitty temple, they should of brought that one back. Or pretty much any other level, the underground part reeks of horrible level design. I would of loved Peach Castle, Brinstar, Mushroom Kingdom II, or the Skyscraper map.

And about the tourney remark, why yes, I am better than you.

haha i get you now... you like to be a pointless dick eh?

;)

[Nickster]

They haven't announced a new character in a month. Is this all we're getting? They told us there'd be about 40 characters.

They probably meant secret characters too. I doubt they'll announce anymore for a while.

They had better bring back the F-Zero map. (not the unlocked one)

[BYOB(SOAD)]

They haven't announced a new character in a month. Is this all we're getting? They told us there'd be about 40 characters.

He doesnt want to reveal everything before the release.

[IGneois]

with this pokemon update.. it seems like he had an outline of updates, but sicne the release was changed, is making them as he goes along, but im sure theres plenty of stuff to waste on, like assist trophies and what not.

thats why they probably announced all the characters that they will already.

[antabax]

Pokemon is playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl ??

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Pokemon is playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl ??

The pokemon trainer.

[DrGyro]

hopefully the controls are smooth for this motherfucker. the wii remote for me has been known to crap out sometimes. especially when up-b-ing. oh man if i lose because of a misinterpreted up-b, imma be so pissed.

[IGneois]

hopefully the controls are smooth for this motherfucker. the wii remote for me has been known to crap out sometimes. especially when up-b-ing. oh man if i lose because of a misinterpreted up-b, imma be so pissed.

ill probably be squared away with the gamecube controller. but seriously..i would enjoy it to all kinds of gasmic if they got rid of the c-stick smashes.

but they didnt

[boss]

im looking foward to this game as well, but...WHERE THE FUCK IS CAPTAIN FALCON!!!????
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Falcon_001.jpg

[BestNameEver]

why is there a sticky for this game, its probably going to Just be average.

[Nickster]

^^
Did Super Smash Bros. suck?

Did Super Smash Bros. Melee suck?

Then what exactly is it that'll make this one suck?

If you're going to bash a game that is regarded to be godly by every second gamer on the planet at least give us an intelligible reason other than "OMFGZ KIDTENDO IS TEH KIDDY FAGGY FAG!!!111!!!!!!"

Or gtfo, your call.

And I concur, where in gods name is Captain Falcon?

I'll even accept Captain Fabolous.

[BestNameEver]

^^
Did Super Smash Bros. suck?

Did Super Smash Bros. Melee suck?

Then what exactly is it that'll make this one suck?

If you're going to bash a game that is regarded to be godly by every second gamer on the planet at least give us an intelligible reason other than "OMFGZ KIDTENDO IS TEH KIDDY FAGGY FAG!!!111!!!!!!"

Or gtfo, your call.

And I concur, where in gods name is Captain Falcon?

I'll even accept Captain Fabolous.

Well, i take back that it will suck, but i dont think its worth a sticky. i just hate game where the levels are on tracks.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

^^
Did Super Smash Bros. suck?

Did Super Smash Bros. Melee suck?

Then what exactly is it that'll make this one suck?

If you're going to bash a game that is regarded to be godly by every second gamer on the planet at least give us an intelligible reason other than "OMFGZ KIDTENDO IS TEH KIDDY FAGGY FAG!!!111!!!!!!"

Or gtfo, your call.

And I concur, where in gods name is Captain Falcon?

I'll even accept Captain Fabolous.


Well said .. Wanna trade friend codes ?

[IGneois]

Well, i take back that it will suck, but i dont think its worth a sticky. i just hate game where the levels are on tracks.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



anyone think he even knows what the game is about?



..he'd had to hate the snes era... ...if he was alive then

[Sketcher]

Well, i take back that it will suck, but i dont think its worth a sticky. i just hate game where the levels are on tracks.

Sigh. I will explain this ONE MORE TIME. I asked a mod to make this a sticky because (as you may already know) there are SSBB updates every weekday. This resulted in a thousand threads being made for every fucking update. This was made sticky to keep the forum clean and have all SSBB discussions in one thread.

And because the game is going to be fucking awesome.

[CodyTheBowler]

And because the game is going to be fucking awesome.

don't lie to us

[BYOB(SOAD)]

don't lie to us

he isnt, its not going to be like Halo 3.

[IGneois]

he isnt, its not going to be like Halo 3.

collectable brawl mountain dew cans

[DrGyro]

I don't know why, but I'm a bit reluctant about Sonic being in this game. I have a feeling he might be a little bit too fast and powerful, and everybody's going to jump to play him. Hopefully the games properly balanced out, I recall I whored Fox to no extent simply because he kicked so much ass.

[Metalocalypse]

SONIC IS A FAGGOT.

There, I said it. I hate that fucking blue piece of shit.

MARIO FTW.

[IGneois]

Ah shit im bored. and wanting to play this.

Anyways, on release of the game, meet in here to exchange.... gah..friend codes.... then we can watch each other progress in awesomeness.

me faster then everyone else

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Ah shit im bored. and wanting to play this.

Anyways, on release of the game, meet in here to exchange.... gah..friend codes.... then we can watch each other progress in awesomeness.

me faster then everyone else

I'm bored too .. Im so glad its almost Feb 10th ..

[IGneois]

http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/12292007/13/bioshock_dev_most_excited_for_nintendo_wii_game_in _2008

creators of bioshock looking forward to brawl. hey just putting it in here. lets check the daily update.

hasnt been updated yet. the dragoon thing seems annoying since no items will most likely be on when i play

[BYOB(SOAD)]

No updates for a week...

[SwyfT]

It got canned.

I would bust a nut laughing, then break down and cry.

[StarmanFinal]

Oh lawdy, captain olimar + pikmin as a playable character.

[IGneois]

It got canned.

I would bust a nut laughing, then break down and cry.

so you like this game now? man you're all over my radar.

now to check the spoiled olimar update...









..i came

[BYOB(SOAD)]

I wasn't expecting another character update until the Jap release. I am so happy !

[FlyinG ShoosteR]

I made a romance explosion all over my keyboard when I saw Olimar.

[IGneois]

these levels are getting better and better. usually flat final was all i needed, but now i might even enjoy these maps.


also, some interesting news. but not for the faint of heart.

if you have high blood pressure..... click away.
Suicide (http://www.destructoid.com/breaking-news-super-smash-bros-brawl-has-been-delayed-in-america-and-japan-64840.phtml)

[lionheart5]

WTF....................:mad:

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Fuck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM NOT HAPPY !!!!!!!!!!!
I swear to God !!! I feel like Shooting someone.

[viepr149]

when does this game release? on ign it says March 9th now...wtf...wasn't it Feb 3rd at one point.

[IGneois]

when does this game release? on ign it says March 9th now...wtf...wasn't it Feb 3rd at one point.

it was December 3rd point one.
February 10th point two.
Who cares abotu point 3 because everyone is dead.


yeah it's March.

[particlephysics]

there probably gonna release at summer or at the end of this year

[Calix Oil]

Or like never.

[staek?]

when brawl is released we can focus on expecting delays for mario kart wii

[IGneois]

when brawl is released we can focus on expecting delays for mario kart wii

who cares about mario kart wii

[Wreckedem]

Incase you guys missed what happened yesterday, it's sorta big if you've been following this game.
Ness, Jigglypuff, Lucario confirmed
http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/01/21/three-new-brawl-characters-accidentally-revealed/

[Well Me]

Incase you guys missed what happened yesterday, it's sorta big if you've been following this game.
Ness, Jigglypuff, Lucario confirmed
http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/01/21/three-new-brawl-characters-accidentally-revealed/

Ness? I think not, that looks like Pokemon Trainer to me.

[bukowski]

Incase you guys missed what happened yesterday, it's sorta big if you've been following this game.
Ness, Jigglypuff, Lucario confirmed
http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/01/21/three-new-brawl-characters-accidentally-revealed/

Ness will probably just be an alternative costume for Lucas.

Also, fuck yeah on Lucario. One of my favorite pogeymons. Only problem with Lucario is that he's bipedal, so furries tend to fag his shit up.

[Wreckedem]

Ness? I think not, that looks like Pokemon Trainer to me.

Check the second screenshot on the site, you can see Ness's head right next to Lucas'. It's not zoomed but it's clear that the bill of his hat goes to the right(left?) instead of being straight like the trainers.

[IGneois]

yeah ness will be back. if he's not ill shave my balls and glue the pubes to my face as a beard.

but hopefully a different move set



check the new map update, its ppretty fucking sweet

[Sketcher]

Oooohhh, Mushroomy Kingdom looks awesome.

[IGneois]

theres a match video... go screen it now.

[Wreckedem]

So stupid that he'd waste an update on that, got me disappointed. oh well, theres always tomorrow, Iam hoping for cpt. falcon

[Rambler]

They will have Captain Falcon, or a character that has moves similar to his.

He is a major character, he isn't a copy of another character like Ganandorf... he was the character with those set of smash attacks first, and he was in the first and second one.

Don't worry, you can take my word that he'll be in it.

[IGneois]

They will have Captain Falcon, or a character that has moves similar to his.

He is a major character, he isn't a copy of another character like Ganandorf... he was the character with those set of smash attacks first, and he was in the first and second one.

Don't worry, you can take my word that he'll be in it.
yeah he's in there, so is ganondorf. but i remember hearing falcon was getting a new move set..which to me doesnt make a lick of sense so its probably going to be ganondorf. but..then again ness is in the game , and he cant have the same moveset as lucas... so we might get better ness?

[Frank the Bunny]

Once Brawl comes out , Microsoft and Sony game industries will bend to the power of Nintendo.

Brawl will be easily the best game of all the universes of all the galaxies in all the middle earth forevar and evar.

[LegendaryLink]

Ganondorf needs to get his own unique move set and give him his sword/s

[bukowski]

Aight, this game came out in Japan and crazed japs are currently trying to unlock all the secret characters.

So far, pics of Ness, Luigi and Marth have surfaced.

[LegendaryLink]

Falco, Ganondorf, Mr. Game and Watch and Rob are playable. Ridley is a boss character a big one at that.

[StarmanFinal]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8

Japanese intro movie.

It's not as epic as the SSBM one.

[bukowski]

Holy penis Wind Waker Link is playable.

[IGneois]

Holy penis Wind Waker Link is playable.

haha you fucking loser thats the phantom hourglass link....

you noob

[rsnyper]

haha you fucking loser thats the phantom hourglass link....

you noob

its the same damn thing

[IGneois]

its the same damn thing

welcome to ebaums

[Sxarcisious]

Im gonna have to start hanging out here more. When this game comes out, i wont have kids nor a wife anymore, i shall call them GTF away from me i am playing brawl! Yeah..

[Wreckedem]

Wolf unlocked! gameplay video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6uRcUADi8

[Al Paccioli]

Way to furfag this game up Nintendo. Fucking Lucario over Mewtwo? Fuck you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvbPzSTpPI&feature=bz301

[Wreckedem]

Way to furfag this game up Nintendo. Fucking Lucario over Mewtwo? Fuck you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvbPzSTpPI&feature=bz301

Lucario is almost a mewtwo clone, even though mewtwo isnt in the game
He still has the charged B move. :raiseeyeb

[handsock]

Man, all you people do here is bitch and moan. Wait til the game comes out, then you won't be bitching. :) Trust me.

Oh and Import FTW.

[IGneois]

Man, all you people do here is bitch and moan. Wait til the game comes out, then you won't be bitching. :) Trust me.

Oh and Import FTW.

this post isnt helping with the anti-bitch and moan campaign.

[doorknobopener]

DAMMIT! Why does Wind Waker, "Toon", Link have to be in it?! His final smash better be him putting on the Fierce Deity mask. I know that the possibility of this happening is slim though:(

[Wreckedem]

DAMMIT! Why does Wind Waker, "Toon", Link have to be in it?! His final smash better be him putting on the Fierce Deity mask. I know that the possibility of this happening is slim though:(

Unfortunately I heard it's just the same as normal Link's final smash.

[SwyfT]

I know i'm gonna get a damn Wii just for this game. I was at a GH competition with a Wii as a prize, but some kid went through 6 months of playing GH as rehab for getting his fingers reattached and smoked me.


Still a little pissed at no shffl or wavedash, but I guess as long as they have short-hoppin i'll be alright. Seen a few videos on youtube over fights... seems kinda slow but sooo easy to dish out 50% now.

im a bit drunk, ill read this again in the morning and edit it haha

[Sketcher]

DAMMIT! Why does Wind Waker, "Toon", Link have to be in it?! His final smash better be him putting on the Fierce Deity mask. I know that the possibility of this happening is slim though:(

Where'd you see that? I didn't see it on the official site.

[Wreckedem]

I know i'm gonna get a damn Wii just for this game. I was at a GH competition with a Wii as a prize, but some kid went through 6 months of playing GH as rehab for getting his fingers reattached and smoked me.


Still a little pissed at no shffl or wavedash, but I guess as long as they have short-hoppin i'll be alright. Seen a few videos on youtube over fights... seems kinda slow but sooo easy to dish out 50% now.

im a bit drunk, ill read this again in the morning and edit it haha

It just seems slow because after the orig SSB on the n64 they sped melee up like hell, i think it'll be fine. Iam actually glad they removed wavedash, but iam sure new techniques will be discovered

[SwyfT]

It just seems slow because after the orig SSB on the n64 they sped melee up like hell, i think it'll be fine. Iam actually glad they removed wavedash, but iam sure new techniques will be discovered

QFT. Theres very little aerial lag now, and the whole game just seems to flow differently. We'll see what new techs pop up a few months after the game hits.

[Wreckedem]

Iam glad it slowed down quite a bit, in melee it was hard for me atleast to keep track of where my character was, i think iam going to love this.

[IGneois]

Iam glad it slowed down quite a bit, in melee it was hard for me atleast to keep track of where my character was, i think iam going to love this.

:banghead::banghead::banghead: if this game turns out to be a c-stick button masher...

[Wreckedem]

:banghead::banghead::banghead: if this game turns out to be a c-stick button masher...

Could be, but it also couldn't because you can use the wiimote and all of those other controllers, not too sure though. Turns out alot of tournyfags are already finding little things that make them feel like they have advantage over the match, oh well, i cant wait to kick their asses online.

[Sketcher]

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q

Got some new Starfox characters in there such as Lucario and Wolf. What's the robot from?

[Wreckedem]

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q

Got some new Starfox characters in there such as Lucario and Wolf. What's the robot from?

Old toy made by nintendo, heres a commercial for it http://youtube.com/watch?v=cHaOs4FBpwE

[IGneois]

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q

Got some new Starfox characters in there such as Lucario and Wolf. What's the robot from?

im hoping this is sarcasm? im not sure enough.... im going to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe by me correcting that lucario is from pokemon, you can say "haha pokemon fag" or something.

but rob the robot? i mean..comeon...

i should power-glove your ass. (look it up)

[SwyfT]

Wewt I got to get my hands on this baby for the past 2 days. Friend had a Japanese Wii.

Here are my first impressions:

First of all, the combat is SLOW. And when I mean slow, i mean sloooooow... slower than SSB64. They leave short hopping and fast falling in the game, but it does little good with how slow characters air attacks are.

Down Attacks are done for you. By this I mean most characters will zip down to the ground, leaving 0 room for error and hitting everything around them.

You are way more vulnerable in this game. It's a rare occurrence to reach 120% in this game. This is somewhat balanced by the fact that the game is slower. I've smashed people out of the ring with a half-charged upsmash by Ike at 30%.

Up+B moves give you roughly twice the height. This is countered by the fact that 85% of the time you are going to be KO'd from the sides than ever fall off of the stage.

Most B moves have been tweaked for better usage. Most b moves are either faster, stronger, or invincible. I enjoyed this for the most part (other than moves like Metaknights tornado where he could basically be invincible dishing out dmg).

L-canceling in a direction is taken out completely. You cant even L-cancel if you are close to the ground. Dashing back and forth was stripped as well. There is a second delay between dashing one way and dashing another.

Most of the vincibility frames were taken OUT of shield-rolling. This made shield-rolling pretty much the thing to do in this game, even more apparent and needed than the last few games.

Smash attacks are only slightly slower than a normal attack, but much stronger. Most of the no-item matches are 80% shield-roll and 20% smash. This is the first game in which i'd rather have tons of items.

Almost every character was powerful(except for the joke characters, DK and Yoshi). There are still some apparent high-tier chars (Marth is even more powerful now, much more. Sonic owns, MK owns, Pit owns), but for the most part the difference is minuet.



Let me stress the vulnerability. You die easy, extremely easy. 80% of the pokemon kill, 95% of the Final Smashes kill at least 2(super sonic anyone?), 70% of the assist trophies kill at least 2. Games with items set to high will consist of people flying out KO'd left and right for the majority of the game.

Items are fun. This is the first time i've been impressed with how items effect this game. Fighting for the smash ball is intense. Unleashing a final smash is intense, and usually hilarious (Luigi dances the dance of motherfuckin life). Assist trophies are fun, pokeballs are fun, the 3-item combo starfox jet is fun.



I wont tell you my personal rating of this game, for I know i'm going to get flamed beyond flamed for anything less than a 10. Just expect the game to be geared completely toward the casual player, and basically random. We had people play with us with strikingly different skill levels that pretty much kept with me and my friend on KO's. One guy that couldn't figure out how to smash had 65 KO's to my 94.

[IGneois]

Wewt I got to get my hands on this baby for the past 2 days. Friend had a Japanese Wii.

Here are my first impressions:

First of all, the combat is SLOW. And when I mean slow, i mean sloooooow... slower than SSB64. They leave short hopping and fast falling in the game, but it does little good with how slow characters air attacks are.

Down Attacks are done for you. By this I mean most characters will zip down to the ground, leaving 0 room for error and hitting everything around them.

You are way more vulnerable in this game. It's a rare occurrence to reach 120% in this game. This is somewhat balanced by the fact that the game is slower. I've smashed people out of the ring with a half-charged upsmash by Ike at 30%.

Up+B moves give you roughly twice the height. This is countered by the fact that 85% of the time you are going to be KO'd from the sides than ever fall off of the stage.

Most B moves have been tweaked for better usage. Most b moves are either faster, stronger, or invincible. I enjoyed this for the most part (other than moves like Metaknights tornado where he could basically be invincible dishing out dmg).

L-canceling in a direction is taken out completely. You cant even L-cancel if you are close to the ground. Dashing back and forth was stripped as well. There is a second delay between dashing one way and dashing another.

Most of the vincibility frames were taken OUT of shield-rolling. This made shield-rolling pretty much the thing to do in this game, even more apparent and needed than the last few games.

Smash attacks are only slightly slower than a normal attack, but much stronger. Most of the no-item matches are 80% shield-roll and 20% smash. This is the first game in which i'd rather have tons of items.

Almost every character was powerful(except for the joke characters, DK and Yoshi). There are still some apparent high-tier chars (Marth is even more powerful now, much more. Sonic owns, MK owns, Pit owns), but for the most part the difference is minuet.



Let me stress the vulnerability. You die easy, extremely easy. 80% of the pokemon kill, 95% of the Final Smashes kill at least 2(super sonic anyone?), 70% of the assist trophies kill at least 2. Games with items set to high will consist of people flying out KO'd left and right for the majority of the game.

Items are fun. This is the first time i've been impressed with how items effect this game. Fighting for the smash ball is intense. Unleashing a final smash is intense, and usually hilarious (Luigi dances the dance of motherfuckin life). Assist trophies are fun, pokeballs are fun, the 3-item combo starfox jet is fun.



I wont tell you my personal rating of this game, for I know i'm going to get flamed beyond flamed for anything less than a 10. Just expect the game to be geared completely toward the casual player, and basically random. We had people play with us with strikingly different skill levels that pretty much kept with me and my friend on KO's. One guy that couldn't figure out how to smash had 65 KO's to my 94.

haha you feel like lying to us!!

not because im scared of it to suck, just because i know you.

[Sxarcisious]

lol wow guy, you couldnt be more wrong... good try though.

Unlike myself who has actually played the game, all that is total bullshit.

[SwyfT]

haha you feel like lying to us!!

not because im scared of it to suck, just because i know you.

And i've lied before when? I was rooting for this game you dumbfuck

lol wow guy, you couldnt be more wrong... good try though.

Unlike myself who has actually played the game, all that is total bullshit.

Alright, then ask me a question that isn't answered in the dojo if you really don't believe me. And also make sure to point out what parts that i've said have actually been wrong.


As much as you people want to delude yourselves, i did get my hands on this game for about 12 hours of gametime. I'm not saying it's bad (christ I didn't even give an opinion and i get flamed... already expected it from the first fucktard, but wow), i'm just saying it's extremely casual oriented.

[Sketcher]

im hoping this is sarcasm? im not sure enough.... im going to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe by me correcting that lucario is from pokemon, you can say "haha pokemon fag" or something.

Meh, I don't know shit about Pokemon. I really don't know much about Starfox either, I just assumed that character was from Starfox because I thought I saw Lucario use a similar move to Fox in that video.

[IGneois]

And i've lied before when? I was rooting for this game you dumbfuck




you like be an ass. its ok

[Sxarcisious]

Well ist off you said it was slower than ssb64, which is a complete and idiotic lie. This game will run at 60+ FPS, making it so much faster than the 64 version.
That is one of the many reason how i see your post is bogus. good try though

[SwyfT]

Well ist off you said it was slower than ssb64, which is a complete and idiotic lie. This game will run at 60+ FPS, making it so much faster than the 64 version.
That is one of the many reason how i see your post is bogus. good try though

Slow as in gameplay. Not as in slow by choppy. Just because a game runs at 60fps doesn't make the gameplay fast. You can have a game where a slash takes 5 minutes in 60 fps.

The gameplay is amazingly smooth. It's just slow gameplay.

[Sxarcisious]

The gameplay is amazingly smooth. It's just slow gameplay.


Ok... well im done. The game will be out shortly and then we'll have everyones opinion on the matter.

[Death_Revenant]

I played the game yesterday. My cousin downloaded it in Japanese. The game play is not slow, it's just as quick as Melee.

It is fantastic. Most characters are the same as Melee. Same moves, better looking. Easy to pick up, no need to relearn.

Super moves are awesome.

[IGneois]

gah, another month. thats what i sad last month.

anyone else excited about the levels? usually melee was all about final destination, but now these levels are looking better and actually entertaining in their own aspect. and if anything, chutes and ladders stage and 5 feet square box for close fighting with only up as the way out.

[SwyfT]

gah, another month. thats what i sad last month.

anyone else excited about the levels? usually melee was all about final destination, but now these levels are looking better and actually entertaining in their own aspect. and if anything, chutes and ladders stage and 5 feet square box for close fighting with only up as the way out.

The levels are awesome this time around. Theres a spot down at the bottom that selects between the SSBB levels and the classic levels (Melee Temple, Starfox SB64), but I don't find myself even touching the classic levels. Pictochat(sp?) level and the warioware levels are frantic as fuck, but real fun. For some reason they made another FD stage for SSBB, which seems to be smaller than before.

Some of the levels seemed a little too big for me before, but it plays perfectly with the killing power of this installment. Just remember: Don't touch the kitty.

[emericanlegend]

Anyone know how to unlock Ness? Also I would like the Mario Bros level with the pipes u go in

[kaptkrool]

gah, another month. thats what i sad last month.

anyone else excited about the levels? usually melee was all about final destination, but now these levels are looking better and actually entertaining in their own aspect. and if anything, chutes and ladders stage and 5 feet square box for close fighting with only up as the way out.

Haha, I know what you mean, this last delay sucks ass when you consider that it's not to fix the game in any way, just to print more copies for Japan.

And the stages look pretty sweet, but I'm disappointed, I was expecting a lot more. At least one stage per franchise as character. Instead, we get one new Kirby stage, one new DK stage, and like 5 new Mario stages. Good to have a lot of the Melee stages returning, especially Temple, Corneria, and Green Greens, my favorite ones from Melee.
But that Stage builder is gonna be sweet shit, I've got so many ideas for what I'm going to build already.

[IGneois]

http://www.brawlcentral.com/

[McShady]

http://www.brawlcentral.com/

Damn that site has everything. Haha R.O.B. Confirmed for Brawl!

Anyways, to those of you who've played it, is Fox still the quickest (over powered)? He's my guy :boink:

And is Ash any good? Same Q for Pikman dude.

[Nickster]

And is Ash any good? Same Q for Pikman dude.

His name ain't Ash, it's Titballs, or Bloodpuke depending on my mood.

Is Diddy any good, hes gonna be my favorite charater if he is, beating out Captain Fabulous.

Also, does anyone think its lame that you can unlock the charaters by getting them on the story mode? Fuck that, give me a challenge!

[IGneois]

His name ain't Ash, it's Titballs, or Bloodpuke depending on my mood.

Is Diddy any good, hes gonna be my favorite charater if he is, beating out Captain Fabulous.

Also, does anyone think its lame that you can unlock the charaters by getting them on the story mode? Fuck that, give me a challenge!

you could get them in the story..or play like 5 brawls.. its all very easy. and the guy 2 post down needs to play more nintendo.


but i heard the subspace quest is really long. but most of that will be pointless 2d scrolling (which i love) but in this game looks repetitve and boring. we will see. in 19 days.

[McShady]

Fox is now the lightest character in the game.
Even lighter than the 1'4" pikachu.
Even lighter than the balloon (kirby).

Big nerf to Fox.
He was my main, but now I'm not so sure.

[Sketcher]

Falco was my guy in Melee and I'll try him out in this one too, but I also want to try to get really good with a couple of the news characters. I'm thinking Pit or Wolf.

[McShady]

Shall we start the countdown to the BIG RELEASE? I think it's about 17 days.


17

[Wreckedem]

Shall we start the countdown to the BIG RELEASE? I think it's about 17 days.


15

Fixed, it's coming March 9th.
Oh and sonic is the fastest character, Pokemon trainer is pretty good, from `what i've seen diddy is very good if played right.

[Gatsufox]

I really hope this game has combos! So far combos seem nearly non existent in the gameplay videos ive seen so far. :(

But not too much like SSB64 because ISAI will own everybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWmw7FOf-n8 (Isai's combo)

[IGneois]

haha i was counting down for the dec release.. then the feb one... and now this one


gamestop here is saving me some posters.

[SwyfT]

I really hope this game has combos! So far combos seem nearly non existent in the gameplay videos ive seen so far. :(

But not too much like SSB64 because ISAI will own everybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWmw7FOf-n8 (Isai's combo)

Combos are still doable, albeit seemingly alot harder than melee or SSB to do anything more than a 2-hit.

[McShady]

9Don't make me do this alone.