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Gilga]V[esh
09-07-2007, 08:00 PM
CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end.

The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington-based group that monitors terror messages. American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy earlier and intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it was authentic.

In the video, which was broadcast to the Arab world by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden sits as he talks, wearing a white robe and turban and beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an address to the American people from papers in front of him.

His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is fully black _ apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under his eyes but appears healthy.

The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region.

Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly call for attacks, according to the transcript, which was first posted on ABC's Web site.

Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public opposition in the U.S.

"There are two solutions to stopping it. One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin Laden said.

"The second solution is from your side," he said. "I invite you to embrace Islam."

"It will also achieve your desire to stop the war as a consequence, because as soon as the warmongering owners of the major corporations realize that you have lost confidence in your democratic system and have begun to look for an alternative, and this alternative is Islam, they will run after you to please you and achieve what you want to steer you away from Islam," he said.

He derides President Bush, saying the American leader is backing Shiites against Sunnis in Iraq. But, bin Laden said, events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" and Bush is "like the one who plows and sows the sea: He harvests nothing but failure."

Bin Laden said the prestige of mujahedeen _ Islamic holy warriors _ has "grown globally" while America has been "bled dry economically."

The video appeared to have been recently made, since bin Laden refers to the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May.

The transcript also praises the American political activist and author Noam Chomsky, mentions global warming and refers to the Aug. 6 anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima during World War II.

Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the United States.

But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his longest period without a message.

Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup.

"There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, Jones said.

He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it "more conducive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida."

"It's really created a sanctuary," Jones said.

Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that their headquarters are more diffuse than they used to be, comprising several training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

She said it was likely that bin Laden is hidden in a more secure location, away from any of those sites.

The United States intercepted the video before it was released on Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical characteristics _ for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease.

White House deputy press secretary Tony Fratto declined to comment on the video until it had been fully analyzed, except to say it was a reminder of the continuing terrorist threat.

"This is why we need to be more vigilant and more persistent in our pursuit of terrorists," Fratto said. "We will continue to pursue them. And it reminds us that we need to be certain that our intelligence professionals have all the tools they need to continue to disrupt their activities."

The Homeland Security Department said it had no credible information warning of an imminent threat to the United States.

Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went down and were inaccessible. The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known.

Evan H. Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the video leaked to U.S. officials.

"For them this is totally disruptive that the U.S. government could have a copy before their targeted audience does," he said. "They could be concerned and trying to plug the leak quickly."

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Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this report.







Here is the full transcript of his speech. Everyone should read it. The mainstream media likes to censor/cut and manipulate the news.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907_bin_laden_transcript.pdf

melodeathpwns
09-07-2007, 08:07 PM
No vid? FAIL! But seriously WTF?

Gilga]V[esh
09-07-2007, 08:10 PM
No vid? FAIL! But seriously WTF?

Why bother posting? :squint:

Solar Max
09-07-2007, 08:12 PM
This sounds like he's intending to run for Senator from New York.


http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=nation_world&id=5643597

"It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations."

...

He also speaks to recent issues grabbing headlines in the United States, referring to "the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes..."

"To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam." He goes on to say: "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent."

mathue
09-07-2007, 08:15 PM
By no means am i saying i agree with what he's doing but in some ways this mans a genius.

shade
09-07-2007, 08:40 PM
By no means am i saying i agree with what he's doing but in some ways this mans a genius.

Its unfortunate, really. Anything he says that is true is inherently discredited by the messenger. Sort of like Hitler. Not everything Hitler did was bad.... but who wants to follow Hitler's advice??

Stu Pidasole
09-07-2007, 09:14 PM
I saw some clips of the vid on the news tonight. It really didn't look anything like the real deal. It's a total fake if you as me. But don't.

~sp

faith
09-07-2007, 09:40 PM
Bin laden can kiss my fat ass.

VoltiSubito
09-08-2007, 01:47 AM
Full transcript of the video:

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/bin_laden_transcript.pdf

silverspade14
09-08-2007, 01:51 AM
I bet its a fake to turn people against Ron Paul.

Buddha Bukakke!
09-08-2007, 02:39 AM
I think it's fake too. He was old and looking sick as hell, and now he looks healthy with a dark beard? Conspiraz0r

HubbleBubble
09-08-2007, 03:59 AM
It's fake. It's a political attack against the people who oppose the war and what's going on. It makes anybody look like they support terrorism for disagreeing with the war or the official story.

Right after the 9/11 attacks and for a long time afterwards, bin Laden denied involvement or responsibility for the attacks and said the attacks were planned by people with personal reasons. Go to google and type in "bin Laden denies involvement" and you'll find out what the real Osama was saying before these fake videos and audio clips came along and all but blatantly contradicted his initial statements.

Here's a CNN article where Osama says, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it." -- http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

And now you have these videos being released of Osama (who looks nothing like the real Osama) mocking the American people and laughing like an evil genius. Don't get me wrong, bin Laden is a piece of shit, but anybody with a brain will laugh at how phony this video is.

American Infidel
09-08-2007, 04:36 AM
This sounds like he's intending to run for Senator from New York.

My thoughts, exactly. Global warming...high taxes...mortgages (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/new-obl-tape-ir.html). Sounds like another democratic nominee, to me.

Of course, these Jihadists absolutely love our Nancy Pelosi's and Harry Reids.

Here's (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xe4o_2007-ben-laden-reapparait-en-video_news) a short version. The actual video is 30 minutes long.

Constantine
09-08-2007, 10:52 AM
Bin Laden pre-taped all of his videos so that in the event of his death, the war and his message will stay alive.

whocares
09-08-2007, 11:21 AM
Why the fuck should he be talking about Global Warming? What does that have to do with anything regarding him? That's really something that amazes me. So now the terrorist that killed 5000 people on the 9/11 attacks is worried about the environment... that's just ridicolous. What the fuck he is trying to do?

Buddha Bukakke!
09-08-2007, 11:57 AM
My thoughts, exactly. Global warming...high taxes...mortgages (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/new-obl-tape-ir.html). Sounds like another democratic nominee, to me.

Of course, these Jihadists absolutely love our Nancy Pelosi's and Harry Reids.

Here's (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xe4o_2007-ben-laden-reapparait-en-video_news) a short version. The actual video is 30 minutes long.
:lol: I still laugh out loud when a Republican complains about high taxes yet it's their fault we're in a resource draining war.

Chewy
09-08-2007, 08:59 PM
"There are two solutions to stopping it. One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin Laden said.

"The second solution is from your side," he said. "I invite you to embrace Islam." This part kind of kills me .... last time I checked Muslims still fight Muslims.

Gilga]V[esh
09-08-2007, 09:17 PM
Here is the full transcript of his speech. Everyone should read it. The mainstream media likes to censor/cut and manipulate the news.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907_bin_laden_transcript.pdf

J.T.
09-09-2007, 01:47 AM
Wow thats some read gilgamesh. It sounds to me like Osama has a LOT of time on his hands to sit around and brood about America. He has a lot of hate and anger manafesting on the inside. He comes across as delusional in a way.

He says that we should embrace Islam and we will see peace, yet, all I can remember about the Al-Qaeda style of Islam was stonings, and a girl being drug out into a soccer field and being shot with an AK.

He leaves out the true spirit of America, and how people of all ethnic backgrounds have benifited from her, when he spews his propaganda- Liberty, religious freedoms and RIGHT TO LIFE for example. And how dare he bring slavery into this. Women were the slaves to these men. They must wear the burkas with no skin showing, they cannot learn, they are PROPERTY to these men. There are no equal rights in Islam. Dr. King would have gotten his head cut off if he repeated the things he said years ago if he were speaking out against Islam. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. And another thing. Muslims I talk to say that we all see them as terrorists now. Not only is this untrue, but they all generalize us to be Christian, and that we are in the wrong for beliving that Jesus is the all mighty. They believe that he is just a Prophet. That may be true, but that doesn't give them any right to demand that we adhere to the Quran for absolute truth or be killed. America was founded on freedom of religion, where decent people fled their opressors and seeked a life of peace, which is what ALL Americans want a chance at. Not spreading hate across the middle east.

Oh no friends. Osama thinks his words are divine, yet, in his own message there is great contridiction.

Moderate Muslims, especially those in Turkey that lead a modern lifestyle laugh at him and call him a terrorist. I would die before submitting myself to his version of "freedom."



Let him sit around in a dark wet cave and write these letters of grandur. One day, his body is going to turn up, and we are going to disect that feeble mind of his, and we are going to have proof that there was a reason for all of this. His rotten brain will reveal the source and desire for these fairy tales.