Lucas confirmed for Brawl

[bukowski]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/lucas.html

OH MY FUCKING GOD YES.

I'm a die hard Mother fan, I've played every game in the damn series.

Well, I tried playing Mother 3 in moonspeak, but it was just me pushing random buttons, A LOT of random buttons. So I ended putting it down, but from what I played(about 2 hours of it) it gave me the impression that it is the best game in the series.

I really hope the fan translation can be done before Brawl comes out. Supposedly it has a lot of spoilers for Mother 3 and I don't want the game I dream about being ruined for me before I get to play it through.

[StarmanFinal]

I'm a huge fan too, as you can tell by my name, but...


What the fuck? Of all the people they can add..why add the kid from one of the games that hasn't even come out in the U.S (and most likely won't)? Not only that, but he looks like a ness clone. If they were gonna add someone from the mother series, it should've been Jeff. Special moves couldve been bottle rockets, laser guns, that kind of shit.

[IGneois]

i dont know. didnt play mother 3.



so not really excited.


it shouldve been the bee..

[StarmanFinal]

hm..over at gamefaqs there are all kinds of discussions about how people are wondering if they're replacing ness with lucas. If ness gets taken out for him, I'm going to be pissed off..he's the only guy I used.

[bukowski]

They might've replaced Ness with Lucas. They're practically the exact same character, but that's not to say I won't be disappointed if they actually did. Ness should be an alternative costume of Lucas's or something this like that.

Also, you've gotta remember, Brawl is literaly a mash up of everything Nintendo has done. I thought it was impossible that Lucas did not show up. I thought he would be an unlockable character tho, didn't expect him to show up in japan time.

[BYOB(SOAD)]

Freaking sweet !!!

[sublimej311]

I thought Ice climbers were out? Snake sounds very cool, and with all of these not household name characters being added Sonic better be there.

[OneClassyBroad]

You know we owe a lot to Japan in terms of video gaming however I think they have always had a tough time creating video games for an adult audience, they just don't realize that video games can be taken seriously. Unusual for a socialistic country that allows nudity on basic television and it's only getting worse. I mean what is up with their obsession with putting children as the main characters in all of their video games? Is Japan full of pedophiles or do they just enjoy saving the world with someone who hasn't even reached puberty.

I supposed we should be accustomed to how childish and fruity Japan is but it seems as though they are catering to a much younger audience than ever before mean while American and European developers are creating a vast array of mature games which in my opinion are infinitely better.

I know people are going to reply - "ZOMG d0od u taek gamez liek way 2 ceriously. dey R posed 2 B phun!" Well I'm sorry but I have a hard time immersing myself in a game when there is no swearing, blood or anything else that adds a degree of realism. There are some exceptions outside of the FPS genre if a game is uniquely original/out there or if the game premise itself would not require blood/swearing/etc...

[Pantless Ron]

Wake me up when they add Sonic......

[bukowski]

You know we owe a lot to Japan in terms of video gaming however I think they have always had a tough time creating video games for an adult audience, they just don't realize that video games can be taken seriously. Unusual for a socialistic country that allows nudity on basic television and it's only getting worse. I mean what is up with their obsession with putting children as the main characters in all of their video games? Is Japan full of pedophiles or do they just enjoy saving the world with someone who hasn't even reached puberty.

I supposed we should be accustomed to how childish and fruity Japan is but it seems as though they are catering to a much younger audience than ever before mean while American and European developers are creating a vast array of mature games which in my opinion are infinitely better.

I know people are going to reply - "ZOMG d0od u taek gamez liek way 2 ceriously. dey R posed 2 B phun!" Well I'm sorry but I have a hard time immersing myself in a game when there is no swearing, blood or anything else that adds a degree of realism. There are some exceptions outside of the FPS genre if a game is uniquely original/out there or if the game premise itself would not require blood/swearing/etc...

I pray you're kidding. I gage you as being more immature than the 10 year olds who eat up supposed kiddy shit.

You become mature once you've grasped how the world around you works and how to function in it. Getting a hard on over blood and guts does not make you more adult.

Break out of your plastic bubble for a second and take a look at the world around you. Notice how you'll find 13 year old kids clad with undeveloped minds, people who can not be mistaken as mature. Now look at what a lot of them are playing; GTA, WW2 2: revenge of hitler and gears of war. All games that many people mistake for being mature just because they encompass shootan and violence.

Why are these children, such immature creatures, mesmerized by the epitome of maturity? How can a mere child comprehend the beauty of something that should be beyond them?

I'll answer that one for you, it's because your supposed mature games aren't fucking mature. There's no aspect about them that makes them mature. They're about as mindless and simplistic as you can get.

Blood, swearing, sex, guns... come on, these types of things are not what you'd call mature. Hell, maturity is not something you'll normally find in a vidya game. It's fucking rare for a game deserving the title of "mature" to come out.

You're a fucking idiot for believing that crap. You're the type of shit that's killing gaming. Narrowing the market and helping to destroy the potential for something new. You're content with eating shit as long as it's pretty. If people like you had your way, gaming would be dead. The market would become saturated with the same bullshit and anything new would be disregarded.

Go climb a wall of dicks sweet cheeks.

[OneClassyBroad]

^ Not sure why you quoted me because your post wasn't responsive to anything I said. You've clearly got a bone to pick but your agenda doesn't have anything to do with my point.

[bukowski]

It had everything to do with your post.

[OneClassyBroad]

No, No it doesn't.

I'm not trying to suggest that we should restrict the developers ability to be original or creative at all in fact I'd like for them to feel less restricted, Less restricted by fears of angry mothers telling them to keep it PG.

It's funny you should try and slander GTA, easily one of the most refreshingly original and non-linear games to come out in history. Also there are ratings on these games ya know.

My point was that I wish there were more games like GTA, Bioshock, Rainbow Six Vegas....As it stands right now mature/serious games are in the minority anyway so you have nothing to fear. However as long as games like "Mother" are popular we will never see a "citizen kane quality" video game.

Remember kids are the money makers for the game designers, they know this so most of the industry's attention is focused on entertaining kids, i guess you're in that demography.

[LegendaryLink]

Now I'm a bit worried that they've taken out Ness.

[bukowski]

No, No it doesn't.

I'm not trying to suggest that we should restrict the developers ability to be original or creative at all in fact I'd like for them to feel less restricted, Less restricted by fears of angry mothers telling them to keep it PG.

It's funny you should try and slander GTA, easily one of the most refreshingly original and non-linear games to come out in history. Also there are ratings on these games ya know.

My point was that I wish there were more games like GTA, Bioshock, Rainbow Six Vegas....As it stands right now mature/serious games are in the minority anyway so you have nothing to fear. However as long as games like "Mother" are popular we will never see a "citizen kane quality" video game.

Remember kids are the money makers for the game designers, they know this so most of the industry's attention is focused on entertaining kids, i guess you're in that demography.

The states only got one game from the Mother series and it bombed here. Actually, I bet you know absolutely nothing about the Mother series. Why talk about something you know nothing about?

Also, what I said is still relevant.

Let's take a look at a light hearted game that's lacking in the TNA you seem to love oh so much.

Psychonauts, incredibly underrated title that is not your ideal "mature" shit. It's not "citizen kane" quality by any means, the graphics are cartoony and the story is as goofy as they come, but I'd be damned if it wasn't one of the best games of last generation. I dare you to play that shit straight through and tell me you didn't love every second of it.

That game wasn't quirky because Tim Schafer was trying to please the housewives. That game was quirky because that's the way Tim Schafer wanted it to be. Isn't that suprising? Someone might make a game you'd consider kiddy shit because that's what the people behind it wanted the game to be.

On another note, I need to address the shit you're pulling with the "Mature" games are in the minority. If any thing, it's vice verse. Two of the consoles of this gen are pretty much devoted to these supposed mature photo realistic games. The creative and light hearted titles you seem to detest are dying out you know, because cunts like you are to dense to break out of your SHOOTAN mentality and embrace them for what they are.

Last off, little kids are infact big money makers. That's why THQ exists. However let's move on to a slightly older audience of say, 13 year olds. This demographic's a big money maker for the very people who make those mature games you love. Shootan games are an all time favorite with the young crowd, which brings back the old point I made. If these games are made for adults, then why are younguns able to enjoy them so much? Wouldn't an adult game be above and beyond these kids? Which brings us back to square one, the games aren't fucking mature at all.

Your whole perception of what is good(mature shit) and what is bad(kiddy shit) is seriously twisted. If you think Earthbound(mother 2) would appeal more to a 13 year old than WW3: Hitlers revenge, then you're fucking mistaken.

[Lambchop]

I could care less about Lucas or Ness (he'll be there, since he was in the other two). I'm a lot more worried that they've replaced Marth with Ike.