MLK holiday, honoring, do you think its fair/right?

[LegendaryU2K]

No disrespect to MLK, he did alot to change things and somethings did change because of him, in some aspect. But you know, other people before him and after him did great things too, why is people making it out to be that MLK is the only one who actually did something, why make a holiday for him, and not JFK, or um Moses?

I cant think of all of the great people who did something, but the bottom line, everyone does something you know, i don't view MLK no different then the next man. So why doesn't everyone see it that way?

I don't celebrate holidays and neither do i honor any man expect for The Messiah, so i could care less, i was just saying WTF, MLK aint the only dude or person in general who did something you know.

Peace

[Yuseke]

I don't celebrate holidays and neither do i honor any man expect for The Messiah.

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/member.php?u=138297

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Oh and I really don't give a fuck about the holiday. All I know is it gets me off of work.

[Spike Lee]

No disrespect to MLK, he did alot to change things and somethings did change because of him, in some aspect. But you know, other people before him and after him did great things too, why is people making it out to be that MLK is the only one who actually did something, why make a holiday for him, and not JFK, or um Moses?

I cant think of all of the great people who did something, but the bottom line, everyone does something you know, i don't view MLK no different then the next man. So why doesn't everyone see it that way?

I don't celebrate holidays and neither do i honor any man expect for The Messiah, so i could care less, i was just saying WTF, MLK aint the only dude or person in general who did something you know.

Peace
Because people said, "Hey! Why not?" They did that, asked people if they wanted to go along with it and presto. If people want something for Harriet Tubman or Johnny Appleseed, then go ahead.

[LegendaryU2K]

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/member.php?u=138297

The real messiah :lmao:

Because people said, "Hey! Why not?" They did that, asked people if they wanted to go along with it and presto. If people want something for Harriet Tubman or Johnny Appleseed, then go ahead.

Yea we lived in a weird world :wah:

[EVO_9MR]

i dunno perhaps its all a scheme by the democrats conforming to get the black vote, something they're notorious for...we'll never know.

[Yuseke]

i dunno perhaps its all a scheme by the democrats conforming to get the black vote, something they're notorious for...we'll never know.

"At the White House Rose Garden on November 2, 1983, Reagan signed a bill creating a federal holiday to honor King. It was observed for the first time on January 20, 1986.

In May 1990, the holiday was expanded further when President George H. W. Bush signed an extension making the week long celebration into a month-long."


Both republicans! Who the fuck would have thought!

[Mr. Heskey]

Holiday honoring JFK? Wow. That would piss me off.



MLK on the other hand deserves a holiday. The man has done more for the name of freedom than almost any other American. I also believe he would be ashamed of some of the things that are going on today.

[LegendaryU2K]

I never said they should have a holiday for JFK, i could care less about none of that sh**, because i dont celebrate holidays. I was just pointing out that why is everyone only seem to be pointing out MLK, like he was the only one who did something good.

There are other people before him who did even greater things, but nobody really talks about them.

For example, if i say " Noah ", because would be wondering who the hell i was talking about. It seems to me, that people only focus thier attention on certain people, instead of everyone.

[TFS]

I never said they should have a holiday for JFK, i could care less about none of that sh**, because i dont celebrate holidays. I was just pointing out that why is everyone only seem to be pointing out MLK, like he was the only one who did something good.

There are other people before him who did even greater things, but nobody really talks about them.

For example, if i say " Noah ", because would be wondering who the hell i was talking about. It seems to me, that people only focus thier attention on certain people, instead of everyone.

Let's see...MLK paved the way for a huge chunk of ignored US citizens to finally be able to vote and be represented in a government and society that had for its entire existence subjugated them as second-rate and disadvantaging them. He gave all of these people opportunities their ancestors here had never enjoyed. And he did it all without trying to be confrontational. He's the western world's Ghandi thus far in our short history.

Not everyone in the world thinks Moses is anything special. Some people are not Abrahamic, some are even atheist. to those people, Moses doesn't matter much.

Noah's an even more minor character in just a couple religions than Moses is. Noah is really only popular with the kids because of the animals.

JFK was an average president who is quite honestly remembered more for being shot than he is for anything he did as President. Lincoln is considered by many history buffs to be the president that finally truly unified the states into one nation through his leadership during and after the Civil War. Both men and all other presidents are covered by President's Day.

Who else should we have a holiday for besides a man who forced a great step in maturity for our nation while maintaining a message of nonviolence and peace during a very violent and turbulent time and made the ultimate sacrifice for his cause?

No one you've mentioned has done anything superior to MLK within our society that everyone actually believes in. People only focus on certain people instead of all people because we only give a damn about incredible feats of people we believe existed. Just because someone is president and gets shot doesn't make them a man of greatness. Just because a religious figure is important to you doesn't mean he matters to people that don't share your religious beliefs. MLK is one person that the vast majority of our society agrees did something magnificent.

Having a federal holiday for Moses or Noah would be catastrophic in a society where stores can't even wish customers "Merry Christmas."

Now that I really think about it, there aren't very many people in history whose existence isn't disputed for religious purposes that stack up to MLK. Talk about impact on society, no single man has had a greater one.

[Fag Boy]

There are other people before him who did even greater things, but nobody really talks about them.


Who?


/argument

[American Infidel]

After a stressful day at work, I began drinking. Heavily. At this point, I'm in a stupor, so don't mis-quote me. As a matter of fact, don't quote me at all...

Mrs. Clinton, the one without the semen on her dress, recently said that a white man (Eisenhower) is the one to be acknowledged for his fight against the oppression of the black man.

In fact, it's the government that lagged behind MLK's heroism. King was a true American, who fought against injustice and should forever be remembered for his role in contributing to President Lincoln's (a REPUBLICAN) ideals.

[pat99872]

After a stressful day at work, I began drinking. Heavily. At this point, I'm in a stupor, so don't mis-quote me. As a matter of fact, don't quote me at all...

Mrs. Clinton, the one without the semen on her dress, recently said that a white man (Eisenhower) is the one to be acknowledged for his fight against the oppression of the black man.

In fact, it's the government that lagged behind MLK's heroism. King was a true American, who fought against injustice and should forever be remembered for his role in contributing to President Lincoln's (a REPUBLICAN) ideals.

Yeah we all know what you're trying to say. All democrats and liberals are terrorists, bush is the best president in the history of the world, all muslims are evil minions who's sole purpose is to eliminate america and republicans are a gods send.

Give me a break.

[American Infidel]

Yeah we all know what you're trying to say. All democrats and liberals are terrorists, bush is the best president in the history of the world, all muslims are evil minions who's sole purpose is to eliminate america and republicans are a gods send.

Give me a break.

I said not to quote me.

Also, I never said that all democrats and liberals are terrorists.

I never said President Bush was the best president in the history of the world.

I never said that Muslims are evil minions, ready to annihilate the United States.

I never said that Republicans are a Godsend.

I'll give you a break. Then, I'll expect you to say something with less retardedness, and more intellect, next time.

[pat99872]

I said not to quote me.

Also, I never said that all democrats and liberals are terrorists.

I never said President Bush was the best president in the history of the world.

I never said that Muslims are evil minions, ready to annihilate the United States.

I never said that Republicans are a Godsend.

I'll give you a break. Then, I'll expect you to say something with less retardedness, and more intellect, next time.

Hey look princess, I'm not trying to come off like an ass or anything, but really need to open your eyes a bit and see the broad spectrum. I've been a lurker in C/E solely due to people like you. But lately, you ceased to amaze me and realized it was people like you that brought the autistic redneck monkey into office the second time. You should really get your mind out of heatherland and stop evolving around fox news. That should help clear your mind up a bit.

Good day.

[American Infidel]

Hey look princess, I'm not trying to come off like an ass or anything, but really need to open your eyes a bit and see the broad spectrum. I've been a lurker in C/E solely due to people like you. But lately, you ceased to amaze me and realized it was people like you that brought the autistic redneck monkey into office the second time. You should really get your mind out of heatherland and stop evolving around fox news. That should help clear your mind up a bit.

Good day.

Lately I cease to amaze you? You must be a newcomer to C/E, then. Stop by more often and I will guarantee to offend.

Otherwise, like with other recently hijacked threads, I will look, but not respond, to ridiculous claims. Don't be offended and feel free to bang away, hysterically, on your keyboard. Think of it as soothing therapy. Ahhhhh...

[pat99872]

Lately I cease to amaze you? You must be a newcomer to C/E, then. Stop by more often and I will guarantee to offend.

Otherwise, like with other recently hijacked threads, I will look, but not respond, to ridiculous claims. Don't be offended and feel free to bang away, hysterically, on your keyboard. Think of it as soothing therapy. Ahhhhh...

Hah, no thank you. But I'm guessing you just had to bring up clinton and a republican president in a MLK thread.

Talk about hijacked threads..

[n00b_rocket]

Heather, you do realize Republicans were the more liberal of the two parties back then, right?

I'm no liberal, but that's a fact.

[American Infidel]

Hah, no thank you. But I'm guessing you just had to bring up clinton and a republican president in a MLK thread.

Talk about hijacked threads..

MLK was killed a long time ago. Current events shows Hillary flanking a black issue, in order for her to appear amicable toward the black community, in order to counter Obama's surge. She is the fall-gal, who will pander to her audience, even to an all black church, by speaking in Afro-American language. A hack.

But, on another subject, why doesn't the black community also revere Abraham Lincoln, as a model of their freedom? Why does Al Sharpton and the most Reverend Jesse Jackson consistently preach that America is promoting racism? Why can't they organize a speech against rap music, that influences hatred of white people, cops, women, and the promotion of smoking crack?

WTF?

[pat99872]

But, on another subject, why doesn't the black community also revere Abraham Lincoln, as a model of their freedom? Why does Al Sharpton and the most Reverend Jesse Jackson consistently preach that America is promoting racism? Why can't they organize a speech against rap music, that influences hatred of white people, cops, women, and the promotion of smoking crack?

WTF?

Just because you see a bunch of ignorant black politics doesn't mean ALL black people are like that. You shouldn't believe everything you see on TV.

[American Infidel]

Just because you see a bunch of ignorant black politics doesn't mean ALL black people are like that. You shouldn't believe everything you see on TV.

You're a troll, with nothing to contribute, other than blatant accusations that I'm considering ALL black people in agreement with Al and Jesse. You've unsuccessfully flanked my argument.

Although I have yet to add anyone to my "ignore' list, you're inane posts have definitely caused me to pause and consider. A first, if that's any reconciliation.

[pat99872]

You're a troll, with nothing to contribute, other than blatant accusations that I'm considering ALL black people in agreement with Al and Jesse. You've unsuccessfully flanked my argument.

Although I have yet to add anyone to my "ignore' list, you're inane posts have definitely caused me to pause and consider. A first, if that's any reconciliation.

I reccomend you to stop watching fox news. But feel free to add me to your little ignore list. That won't change a damn thing about your twisted views.

[TFS]

I reccomend you to stop watching fox news. But feel free to add me to your little ignore list. That won't change a damn thing about your twisted views.

How about you stop the ad hominem attacks on him? All he did was state a couple facts, one where Hillary said Dwight was a good guy, and one where he pointed out that Lincoln did as much for this nation as MLK. He meant nothing by either statement.

And then you jumped up all on his nuts with a bunch of attacks and jabs that amount to nothing more than confrontational stereotypes of conservatives.

Chill the fuck out. How do you know for a fact that it's your anti-conservative (different from liberal) views that aren't twisted? Why is he automatically wrong and ignorant and a horrible person simply for disagreeing with you?

[Fungus Amungus]

I think it's hilarious that a genuine Communist gets an American holiday.

[Mr. Heskey]

I think it's hilarious that a genuine Communist gets an American holiday.

Cesar Chavez?

[_Joe]

I have classes monday.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

I have classes monday.

Seriously? In PA?

[_Joe]

Seriously? In PA?

In college, a private school.

[TFS]

In college, a private school.

And private school kids used to scoff at me in their uniforms...product of public schools in 4 states and proud of it.

[Bullet]

Dude, do you have a brain?

Why are you using Moses and Noah as figures for Holidays? No one in their right mind would make a Moses day or Noah day, not today anyways. They're biblical figures, and they're hardly tie in with change or anything dramatic like what MLK did. How do we know they even existed? Might as well have a Allah day (there probably is, lol), but you know what I mean. We have holidays that relate to religion, but only because the past created them.

Not only are you being close minded with the whole "Noah or Moses" thing, but you're not even including the 'other people'. Give us examples, and we'll probably tell you why their aren't holidays for them.

[Spike Lee]

Dude, do you have a brain?

Why are you using Moses and Noah as figures for Holidays? No one in their right mind would make a Moses day or Noah day, not today anyways. They're biblical figures, and they're hardly tie in with change or anything dramatic like what MLK did. How do we know they even existed? Might as well have a Allah day (there probably is, lol), but you know what I mean. We have holidays that relate to religion, but only because the past created them.

Not only are you being close minded with the whole "Noah or Moses" thing, but you're not even including the 'other people'. Give us examples, and we'll probably tell you why their aren't holidays for them.

How about Rosa Parks? Or Johnny Appleseed? Just some names, I am for the holiday of MLK day.

[pinoyazn]

I dont think its fair, only colored people should celebrate this holiday(No School), WTF white homie oaks celebrating like hell mang.

lol, of course it should be celebrated.

[GenralisimoHanz]

It doesn't matter to me, because chances are I'm just going to use the day to play Call of Duty or do homework and not care about who the holiday is for anyway.

[Bullet]

How about Rosa Parks? Or Johnny Appleseed? Just some names, I am for the holiday of MLK day.

She didn't do much. People just made a big deal about it. MLK did a lot, and people made a big deal about it. Big difference in my opinion.


Johnny Appleseed is an American Legend as it is. Everyone knows him. I'm not too sure what he contributed though... apart from apples =p

[Fungus Amungus]

Cesar Chavez?

Lol. I'm serious though. In his "I have a dream..." speech he talks about constructing the economy to give back to the people, black people specifically. I like MLK's charisma and how he brought inspiration to so many, but I am glad he didn't hold office.

[_Joe]

And private school kids used to scoff at me in their uniforms...product of public schools in 4 states and proud of it.

Me = Private K-8th, public high school, liberal arts college

[TFS]

Me = Private K-8th, public high school, liberal arts college

Twas just a joke...

[OE800]

i get a payed day off for my main man MLK's birthday, i think we should honor more noble leaders with their own day.

[Chiaroscuro]

One day? Why not ten?

[Face Plant]

MLKD is one day, besides you don't have to honor him, treat it like any other day off.

Now black history month is something I have a problem with, like a whole fucking month! Ain't enough black history to cover a month, most of it is bios of entertainers or trivia, not history. In my city we have more Italians and Chinese than black people yet the school board promotes BHM. At least Italians & Chinese have enough history to cover a month.

[chalupa]

I'm not too sure what he contributed though... apart from apples =p

Seeds, duh!


I almost got my wife a MLK Day card for our Anniversary today. I thought better of it.

[Nickster]

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Now black history month is something I have a problem with, like a whole fucking month! Ain't enough black history to cover a month, most of it is bios of entertainers or trivia, not history. In my city we have more Italians and Chinese than black people yet the school board promotes BHM. At least Italians & Chinese have enough history to cover a month.

The Black History Month bulletin board thing my school put up every month in some cold random hallway was once left up there for 3 goddamn months, but I'm sure that was just pure laziness.

Most of the community service ads near the guidance office are over a fucking year old.:banghead:

[RatedM]

Fuck MLK day.... a huge group of blacks blocked all means of traveling through Macon, Ga today for at least an hour. One of the busiest and most useful fucking streets in Macon blocked by people with nothing better to do than celebrate a guy's life while I'm trying to get to a doctor's appointment.

I have a better idea, get the fuck off of the street and parade in circles around some Civil Rights museum and stay off the fucking street. :idea:

[Spike Lee]

Did you not know there was a parade today?

[TFS]

Seeds, duh!


I almost got my wife a MLK Day card for our Anniversary today. I thought better of it.

if she has any sense of humor at all I'd have gone for it if I were you.

If she only has a small sense of humor, you give her that card first then the real one and everything else you got her right afterward.

[ix The End ix]

I don't care. It gets me out of School for a day.