"Nu-metal"

[esruC]

*flame shield* I like nu-metal... *flame shield*

I'm gonna get raped.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

Isn't that like Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed and shit?

[esruC]

Isn't that like Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed and shit?

*sigh* yes...I'm ashamed. :wah:

[GALLIENVS AVG]

*sigh* yes...I'm ashamed. :wah:

Don't worry, there are plenty of 12-year olds with mohawks and black tanktops who listen to the same music you do!

[esruC]

Don't worry, there are plenty of 12-year olds with mohawks and black tanktops who listen to the same music you do!

:wah::wah::wah::wah:

Fuck.

However, I do like Opeth, Amon Amarth, etc. I guess i'm an anomaly.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

:wah::wah::wah::wah:

Fuck.

However, I do like Opeth, Amon Amarth, etc. I guess i'm an anomaly.

Those bands win.

[esruC]

Those bands win.

See, i'm not a loser! I swear!

[Fungus Amungus]

I like Korn also. But they aren't really Nu-Metal. Their only Nu-Metal like cds was "Self Titled" and "Life is Peachy". Not to mention Korn is original at the least, they just had alot of shitty copy cats.

[melodeathpwns]

D:<

Say it ain't so! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!:wah:

Meh you're still one of my fav members.

[Edgecrusher]

While I don't listen to it on a daily basis, there is some
good nu-metal out there. Namely Korn, but they were
the pioneers, and were fresh when they came out.

I've always taken a liking to Disturbed. They're some
cool dudes, and have some pretty good grooves in
many songs.

I'm not really into Slipknot, but Jim Root and Mick Thompson
can shred with the best of them, and Corey Taylor is a badass
vocalist in Stone Sour.

Other than that, nothing really tickles my fancy. I don't really
get that worked up about it either, it was just bands conforming
to the trend, and trying to make money being a musician.

[burningcow422]

there are a few catchy nu-metal songs out there. i see where you're at.

[Trent215]

I do like some nu-metal...I've always enjoyed Disturbed, vocalist has a unique voice and a few Slipknot songs are OK...I hate Korn, Limp Bizkit, POD, etc.

[ahaga]

The only nu-metal I really enjoy is Disturbed
Dan Donegan said the new album "Indestructible" is going to be like full-on guitar porn.

[Upperdecker]

Most old Korn is good, Mudvayne's L.D.50 is good, Limp Bizkit's first was good, all Deftones is good. There's too many shit nu-metal bands though.

[Upperdecker]

I like Korn also. But they aren't really Nu-Metal. Their only Nu-Metal like cds was "Self Titled" and "Life is Peachy". Not to mention Korn is original at the least, they just had alot of shitty copy cats.

Dude, Korn are the godfathers of nu-metal. What are you talking about?

[Sketcher]

Some of it is good, some of it is bad. Just like every single other genre.

/thread

[temp100]

I'm not a fan of nu-metal, but SOAD wasn't a bad band. And for the record, the Deftones are good, though I don't even consider them nu-metal.

[Trent215]

If we're going to throw in Deftones and SOAD as nu-metal then ya I like them too

[cbm]

Most old Korn is good, Mudvayne's L.D.50 is good, Limp Bizkit's first was good, all Deftones is good. There's too many shit nu-metal bands though.

agreed
and i dont think slipknot should be labeled as nu metal...its different and unique but not gay.

[SatanTheSith]

The only nu metal I could see myself listening to is disturbed.

[atreyu_2020]

I like a few Slipknot songs but the ones I like wouldn't be considered nu metal, like "Circles". I really don't mind Mudvaynes older stuff off of LD50, and I dig Ill Nino, although hearing a few songs off their new album it looks like they're going in a downward spiral, and some of Spineshanks old shit is pretty catchy, that's about all the nu metal I like.

[Superior_to_you]

:wah::wah::wah::wah:

Fuck.

However, I do like Opeth, Amon Amarth, etc. I guess i'm an anomaly.

Not really... Most of the Hot Topic kiddies listen to whatever bands have shirts and merch in Hot Topic, which include both of those bands.


And Opeth sucks.

[webmastermarty]

I hate that sort of shit... Each to their own though!

[Fungus Amungus]

Dude, Korn are the godfathers of nu-metal. What are you talking about?
They are I agree, but they purposely drifted away from nu-metal after Follow the Leadeer. If you listen to Issues, Untouchables and beyond. They are thier own hard rock. They sound completely different from CD to CD, one thing I like about them.

[DerekSmalls]

I have no shame in admitting I like Korn, Disturbed and the first 2 Papa Roach albums. Why should I? I mean, it's not like I think they're the second coming of Christ or anything, but they do have some catchy songs that are just fun to listen to. I'm sick of people thinking that the only thing involved in making a good song is technical ability.

[Upperdecker]

For Korn, IMO, everything after untouchables is pretty much shit save a song or two. They lost Head and they started working with hip hop producers to help them write songs, then they lost David. Pretty much, Korn are dead now. Another thing, I can't believe I forgot to add System of A Down. They're first 2 albums are great, after that I bought Mezmerize which was ok and I didn't bother with Hypnotize. I also enjoy Ill Nino's Revolution Revolucion but not so much their later releases. Dry Kill Logics The Darker Side of Nonsense is a good nu-metal record also (cool fact, Dry Kill Logic was called Hinge before Dry Kill Logic). After that they basically turned into generic metalcore. Oh, and last band I'll mention is Cold. 13 Ways To Bleed On Stage is an excellent record. Once again, didn't care for their later releases.

[atreyu_2020]

Korn basically put nu metal on the map as far as mainstream.

Coal Chamber are the real kings of nu-metal considering they were one of the first and are about 2,422 times better then Korn.

[camjoe87]

Eh, not a fan of the genre at all. As previously mentioned deftones really isn't that bad, and I have heard them being lumped in with all the nu-metal bands before.

I think I might like disturbed if the instrumentals were a bit better .. It's just too boring to listen to in my opinion. But then again, if it had better instrumentals people probably wouldn't be calling them a nu-metal band. And I really think Korn is horrible.

[yamahadrummer]

i like korn, coal chamber (not better than korn, btw) disturbed, slipknot, linkin park, limp bizkit and spineshank

so i guess i enjoy nu-metal. so sue me. i also enjoy prog, rap, ska, punk, and death/black/prog metal and many of the "core"s

i just like everything

[BrotherPaul]

And Opeth sucks.

Die.

Anyone who says that is just a shit disturbing sack of awful... anyone who has ever listened to Opeth and is mature enough to grasp what they've just experienced and appreciate how inventive they are instantly loves them.

I am interested to read what you find musically tasteful.

[Superior_to_you]

Die.

Anyone who says that is just a shit disturbing sack of awful... anyone who has ever listened to Opeth and is mature enough to grasp what they've just experienced and appreciate how inventive they are instantly loves them.

I am interested to hear read what you find musically tasteful.

So basically you just invalidated for yourself the opinion of anyone who doesn't like Opeth and thus it would be pointless to try and argue anything with you.

[BrotherPaul]

So basically you just invalidated for yourself the opinion of anyone who doesn't like Opeth and thus it would be pointless to try and argue anything with you.

Essentially.

Your initial comment that I quoted lacks support. I can only conclude it was a troll response, even though you may have meant what you said.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

I don't see how it's possible to not like Opeth. Extremely talented all-around, and kickass songs.

[yamahadrummer]

I don't see how it's possible to not like Opeth. Extremely talented all-around, and kickass songs.

maybe his parents didnt love him when he was a child, i have never seen a post by him that wasnt retarded/insulting.

[Sezril]

Feelings on Opeth across the metal community are cut right down the middle. They're both loved and reviled equally, so I don't see what's so shocking about Superior_to_you's stance on them. Hell, I'm almost with him - I don't hate Opeth and in fact enjoy a few of their songs, but I don't find anything they create to be truly pleasurable and enchanting.

[asdfkjhg]

Feelings on Opeth across the metal community are cut right down the middle. They're both loved and reviled equally, so I don't see what's so shocking about Superior_to_you's stance on them. Hell, I'm almost with him - I don't hate Opeth and in fact enjoy a few of their songs, but I don't find anything they create to be truly pleasurable and enchanting.

I agree.. I've just been too afraid to say anything :ohnoes:

[BrotherPaul]

Feelings on Opeth across the metal community are cut right down the middle. They're both loved and reviled equally, so I don't see what's so shocking about Superior_to_you's stance on them. Hell, I'm almost with him - I don't hate Opeth and in fact enjoy a few of their songs, but I don't find anything they create to be truly pleasurable and enchanting.

His stance isn't shocking. I know there are tons of people out there who can't get into Opeth's music for whatever reason.

Nearly every aspect of Opeth is original and unlike anyone else, including themselves. No Opeth albums sound alike, there is always something inventive and fresh. Sadly this isn't the case for most metal bands out there. Album after album of overly distorted, machine gun guitars and speedy precussion only go so far with many; and for us there is Opeth. They have progressed into a seemingly different band from the time Orchid was released until now. Smooth transitions in and out of melodic and metal rifs coupled with smooth/deathmetal vocals and subjective lyrics that in some cases connect stories, they are the essence of progression which is arguably the ultimate form of metal.

[asdfkjhg]

prog is just another way of saying zero atmosphere..

to be fair I only have Ghost Reveries.. and it's good. I get annoyed with them though. I hate the vocals (clean and harsh) and the sound of the guitars. I like the softer parts more than the parts where they try to be heavy and fail

I'm assuming they have better albums?

[BrotherPaul]

prog is just another way of saying zero atmosphere..

to be fair I only have Ghost Reveries.. and it's good. I get annoyed with them though. I hate the vocals (clean and harsh) and the sound of the guitars. I like the softer parts more than the parts where they try to be heavy and fail

I'm assuming they have better albums?

Depends on what you feel is "better".

Also, what do you mean by atmosphere?

[asdfkjhg]

Depends on what you feel is "better".

Also, what do you mean by atmosphere?

Opeth definitely is very atmospheric I was just talking about the proggy shit they do sometimes. where it sounds completely emotionless. basically what I feel is better is whatever sounds the least like Dream Theater or other bands like that

[Trent215]

I dig Opeth sometimes and they obviously have talent...but they are one of the most overrated of the "talented, good" bands out there...their music is boring at lots of points and there isn't really much appeal to them after a while...I know people always comment on how Between the Buried and Me is like an American version of Opeth or they're "almost as good" as Opeth....please BTBAM is just as talented while being more enjoyable and entertaining than Opeth

[BrotherPaul]

Opeth definitely is very atmospheric I was just talking about the proggy shit they do sometimes. where it sounds completely emotionless. basically what I feel is better is whatever sounds the least like Dream Theater or other bands like that

You could try Deliverance but you may want to try to following tracks.

Wreath
Master's Apprentices
Blackwater Park
Demon of the Fall
Circle of the Tyrant

Even to say they sometimes sound emotionless if find to be a bit odd, afterall their theme is typically, Despair, love, the occult among other things. However, if you are exclusively into bands like Hatebreed, Enemy of the Sun or Evocation then Opeth probaly isn't for you, but you may enjoy the above.

[Trent215]

You could try Deliverance but you may want to try to following tracks.

Wreath
Master's Apprentices
Blackwater Park
Demon of the Fall
Circle of the Tyrant

Even to say they sometimes sound emotionless if find to be a bit odd, afterall their theme is typically, Despair, love, the occult among other things. However, if you are exclusively into bands like Hatebreed, Enemy of the Sun or Evocation then Opeth probaly isn't for you, but you may enjoy the above.

I did enjoy Blackwater Park, "The Drapery Falls" is a sweet song...but as I said I just find them repetitive and boring even if they are much more talented than your average repetitive and boring band.

[asdfkjhg]

However, if you are exclusively into bands like Hatebreed, Enemy of the Sun or Evocation then Opeth probaly isn't for you, but you may enjoy the above.

lol.. I'm not really sure where you got that from but I'll give them a shot

[Superior_to_you]

maybe his parents didnt love him when he was a child, i have never seen a post by him that wasnt retarded/insulting.

Heathen is a swell band.

[BrotherPaul]

I did enjoy Blackwater Park, "The Drapery Falls" is a sweet song...but as I said I just find them repetitive and boring even if they are much more talented than your average repetitive and boring band.

I can't comprehend how they seem repetative and boring, their variety and unpredictability is one of their most appealing aspects.

Are the bands on this page your type of music?

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/

If not, then that's why there are so many descrepencies. We don't even like the same type of music. :confused:

lol.. I'm not really sure where you got that from but I'll give them a shot

I don't know either, I'm not sure what you are into. :confused:

[GALLIENVS AVG]

I don't find Opeth repetitive or boring, save for 1 or 2 songs.

Every album of theirs is a little different, and I suggest you try them all.

[Trent215]

Maybe not repetitive but definitely stale for me...of those bands with forums on that link I do like Amon Amarth, Anthrax, Children of Bodom, Dark Tranquility, Evergrey, In Flames, Kalmah, Kayo Dot, Nevermore, Symphony X, Testament

[BrotherPaul]

Well at least we can agree to disagree.

[Trent215]

Agreed, but I don't want you to get me wrong I'm not saying they don't have talent and are a bad band...trust me I'd rather listen to their whole music collection than have to listen to one Nickelback, or Fallout boy, or Three Days Grace song and there's no denying Akerfeldt and crew are talented...

My point is they just aren't my cup of tea personally and I don't like them as much as I know a whole lot of other people do(since I know they are on a lot of people's favorite bands list)

[SatanTheSith]

Why the fuck am I in a nu metal thread reading about Opeth?

[asdfkjhg]

Why the fuck am I in a nu metal thread reading about Opeth?
why the fuck are you in a nu metal thread?

poser

[SatanTheSith]

Why the fuck are YOU in a nu metal thread? I wanted to read about what people had to say about nu metal, and how people could like it.

[BrotherPaul]

Why the fuck are YOU in a nu metal thread? I wanted to read about what people had to say about nu metal, and how people could like it.

It all began on page 3.

[SatanTheSith]

It started on page 3, and why listen to the opinions of someone who judges bands by where they sell their shirts.

[Superior_to_you]

It started on page 3, and why listen to the opinions of someone who judges bands by where they sell their shirts.

It's more like Hot Topic tends to pick shitty bands. Amon Amarth is a bit of an anomaly.

[DeftonesBoy]

Why the fuck are YOU in a nu metal thread? I wanted to read about what people had to say about nu metal, and how people could like it.

How people could like it? Seriously, typical attitude. It's easy on the ears, a little more melodic than other genres, and just the right amount of "hardcore". I'd much rather listen to death metal and black metal, but I can't say I don't see why people like nu-metal. That's just stupid.

[SatanTheSith]

Probably because all I've heard is shit imo.

[Al Paccioli]

Probably because all I've heard is shit imo.

It's certainly shit compared to decent bands, but you and I both know most people don't branch out into better stuff, and are therefore ignorant of higher quality in musics. Same goes for beer. AM I RIGHT H4Z4RD AND THOR?!

[melodeathpwns]

I take a big diarrhea dump all over this thread.

[TrailOfTheMadmn]

It's certainly shit compared to decent bands, but you and I both know most people don't branch out into better stuff, and are therefore ignorant of higher quality in musics. Same goes for beer. AM I RIGHT H4Z4RD AND THOR?!

It's actually pretty legit to be in touch with a variety of music and still find nu-metal enjoyable.

I'm not a nu-metal fan, but I do like a few of the bands...Chevelle, Disturbed, and Linkin Park (though they've moved away from that genre with Minutes to Midnight) all come to mind. Granted, those are the more mainstream nu-metal bands. I don't know about many others within the genre. I've heard of Hed PE and Coal Chamber. I may check them out sometime.

Korn really were never a good band. So many people say that their first album is so great, but it really isn't. And Slipknot have a terrible, overbearing drummer who seems to mask his lack of creativity with a wall of double bass.

As for Opeth, they'd be much better if their vocalist wasn't so shitty. And no, I don't care how hard it is to be able to growl that way, it still sounds like shit.

[Upperdecker]

I honestly don't know how anyone can stand Disturbed. Even when they had their first single called Stupify I didn't care for them. The guys voice is just so annoying and they're just so meh. Did anyone ever notice how the host of Deal or No Deal looks exactly like their vocalist?

[drift]

Has anyone heard of The Satan Rapists of Bloodhaven?

[BrotherPaul]

As for Opeth, they'd be much better if their vocalist wasn't so shitty. And no, I don't care how hard it is to be able to growl that way, it still sounds like shit.

Akerfeldt's death metal vocals are revered among many in the real metal community. His clear vocals may not be the best but his lyrical content more than makes up for it to say the least.

As for sounding like shit, that doesn't carry much weight from someone who appreciates Linkin Park and Disturbed. Feel free to flame, I won't be returning to this thread for I grow weary of this.