Crosby VS Ovechkin

[322]

Who's better in your opinion?
Who would you want on your team?

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Canucks need a finisher, i'd go with Ovechkin

[Shymega]

Crosby cause he's all around a better player and makes others better. Ovechkin is just a beast, but he doesn't really make others better. Crosby is more a playmaker who can finish and Ovechkin is a sniper.

[Marcos2990]

Alexander Ovechkin :D

[Masterbasser412]

Crosby because he's better.

[atreyu_2020]

Only thing Ovechkin is better at is hitting and shooting the puck more.

[ST4NK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQXfte7TKXw



Awesome commercial with Crosby, one of my favorite players besides Teemu Selanne and Rob & Scott Neidermeyer.

[smallxfry]

Only thing Ovechkin is better at is hitting and shooting the puck more.

actually hes better at scoring goals. he has 43 of them...crosby doesnt even make it on the list.

and although people give Ovie alot of slack for not having more assists or making the players around him better, he is giving his club a real chance at making the playoffs. he scored 4 goals last night! and they still only won 5-4.

[atreyu_2020]

actually hes better at scoring goals. he has 43 of them...crosby doesnt even make it on the list.

and although people give Ovie alot of slack for not having more assists or making the players around him better, he is giving his club a real chance at making the playoffs. he scored 4 goals last night! and they still only won 5-4.

They are about even in scoring goals, it's just Ovechkin shoots more while Crosby looks to make other players look better and use his overall playing skills rather then just shooting the puck all the time, and he does it well, best in the league actually. And Crosby was actually leading his team in goals until he got hurt, he was up there in the stats, and right before he got hurt was leading the league in points, maybe he was tied with Vince I'm not exactly sure. He's just a more well rounded player then Ovechkin, it's not really arguable.

This topic should have been ended in the last few years, the real discussion should be Malkin and Ovechkin, not Crosby and Ovechkin.

[Mysterio]

They are about even in scoring goals, it's just Ovechkin shoots more while Crosby looks to make other players look better and use his overall playing skills rather then just shooting the puck all the time, and he does it well, best in the league actually. And Crosby was actually leading his team in goals until he got hurt, he was up there in the stats, and right before he got hurt was leading the league in points, maybe he was tied with Vince I'm not exactly sure. He's just a more well rounded player then Ovechkin, it's not really arguable.

This topic should have been ended in the last few years, the real discussion should be Malkin and Ovechkin, not Crosby and Ovechkin.

Sid sits 8th right now in points. Ovechkin shoots becuase he can score when he does. Hes leading the league in points and goals. It's true he makes them look better, but id take Ovechkin any day over Sid.

No way is Malkin even close to the same skill level that Ovechkin is at. Maby compare Stall and Malkin would be a better choice.

[DontBottaMe13]

They are about even in scoring goals, it's just Ovechkin shoots more while Crosby looks to make other players look better and use his overall playing skills rather then just shooting the puck all the time, and he does it well, best in the league actually. And Crosby was actually leading his team in goals until he got hurt, he was up there in the stats, and right before he got hurt was leading the league in points, maybe he was tied with Vince I'm not exactly sure. He's just a more well rounded player then Ovechkin, it's not really arguable.

This topic should have been ended in the last few years, the real discussion should be Malkin and Ovechkin, not Crosby and Ovechkin.

i agree crosby is a better all around player...but they are NOT even in scoring goals...ovechkin is the best all around goal scorer in the league hands down, and hes leagues ahead of malkin

malkin is a good example, however, of why crosbys better...he makes malkin almost comparable to someone like ovechkin cuz crosby DOES make his team better...without crosby malkin isnt even close to alex

[razorwire61]

Crosby is better but I love ovechkin he's Great for the game, Crosby is the same old Cliche of a player. and i think he's overrated

[Shymega]

I don't know about Crosby being as good of a goal scorer as Ovechkin, but he if he shot as much as Alex, he'd be netting close to or 50 goals a year. Alex is in that 60 goal range. I put a few players in the league at that 60 or 60+ goal range in the future and that's Ovechkin, Kovalchuk and Gaborik..Maybe Nash when he finally hits his stride.

[atreyu_2020]

Sid sits 8th right now in points. Ovechkin shoots becuase he can score when he does. Hes leading the league in points and goals.

Because Crosby got hurt a while ago, and while he was hurt he was still tied for 1st in points, with Ovechkin below him. So to compare the two in points now would be meaningless considering Crosby has been hurt.

[Masterbasser412]

Sid sits 8th right now in points. Ovechkin shoots becuase he can score when he does. Hes leading the league in points and goals. It's true he makes them look better, but id take Ovechkin any day over Sid.

No way is Malkin even close to the same skill level that Ovechkin is at. Maby compare Stall and Malkin would be a better choice.

Malkin is as close to Ovechkin as Ovechkin is as close to Crosby, currently. Dunno which Staal your talking about, but none of them are as good as Malkin.

Also, don't forget Crosby is younger than Ovechkin by nearly 2 years.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IZkPn9kjRFE

[Shymega]

Once Malkin grows a bit more balls he will be a machine. He's so strong on the puck and such a smooth skater, now he just needs to not be scared to do the shit Ovechkin does(like skate in the slot/high traffic areas every chance possible) and he will be the best all around Russian in the game. He has all the tools and body to be a future Jagr.

[Capt_Canada]

Ovechkin hands down, Crosby is soft

Crosby and Belak are closer

[atreyu_2020]

No way is Malkin even close to the same skill level that Ovechkin is at. Maby compare Stall and Malkin would be a better choice.

I seriously don't know how much hockey you watch, but the fact that you think that Malkin isn't on the same skill level as Ovechkin is a completely asinine, I do think Ovechkin is better but you CAN compare the two skill wise.

Compare "Staal" and Malkin? Now I know you don't watch that much hockey. Jordan Staal is a good young player, and one of our best PKs but that's all he can be compared to with Malkin, since Malkin is a decent PK as well, we just don't use him as much. Kid plays his heart out but is no where near the skills of Malkin.

[Fireal87]

I don't know about Crosby being as good of a goal scorer as Ovechkin, but he if he shot as much as Alex, he'd be netting close to or 50 goals a year. Alex is in that 60 goal range. I put a few players in the league at that 60 or 60+ goal range in the future and that's Ovechkin, Kovalchuk and Gaborik..Maybe Nash when he finally hits his stride.

the only reason you mentioned Gaborik, is cuz of that 4 goal game recently, he doesn't even compare to Kovi. and Nash could be one of the greatest players, if he wasn't so unreliable

[drift]

ESPN2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMs6gcUA6Bc

[ehogepr]

Crosby is better but I love ovechkin he's Great for the game, Crosby is the same old Cliche of a player. and i think he's overrated

Overrated? I mean... I can see why you might say Ovechkin may be better but to say he's overrated? I mean.. wow.. I'm speechless. You really believe that.. you say he's better but overrated? I'm agreeing with Atreyu and some of the others. Ovechkin is better scoring wise, hitting and shooting the puck but Crosby is a more well rounded player. So my vote goes to Crosby. Don't get me wrong though, I like 'em both and I'm not just being a homer.

[dialamo]

ESPN2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMs6gcUA6Bc
Ahahahaha, I've seen this floating around HFBoards, it's the best hockey commercial spoof ever!

To respond to the OP:
For the Devils, they need a #1 natural center (and a #1 d-man as well) so Crosby is my choice. However, this was not a very easy decision.

[Shymega]

the only reason you mentioned Gaborik, is cuz of that 4 goal game recently, he doesn't even compare to Kovi. and Nash could be one of the greatest players, if he wasn't so unreliable

Huh? First of all he had a 5 goal game, but that has nothing to do with it. Look at his goal to game ratio the past couple of years. If he isn't always getting injured, he'd be up there with the best.

38 in 65 two years ago. That's about on pace for 47 goals
30 in 48 last year. That's about on pace for 56 goals
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2416/career;_ylt=AiSWV0_fVr2csY_44.VfqHlivLYF

And he's on pace for 46 in 77 this year
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2096&name=&hubname=nhl

His 5 goal game for the hell of it. The guy is amazing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FDN_S7mO6jo

[Masterbasser412]

Anyone still believe Malkin and Ovechkin aren't comparable?

[322]

Anyone still believe Malkin and Ovechkin aren't comparable?

I'd still take Ovechkin in a heartbeat. But choosing between crosby and ovechkin is a tough choice.

[Shymega]

Anyone still believe Malkin and Ovechkin aren't comparable?


I look at it as, Malkin to Ovechkin was like Jagr to Lemieux in an almost exact comparison.

[Masterbasser412]

I hate to bring this back up but...Ovechkin>Malkin>Crosby.

[Shymega]

I hate to bring this back up but...Ovechkin>Malkin>Crosby.

haha, i knew that was coming. Malkin should win the Hart.

[atreyu_2020]

I love how since Crosby has been hurt Ovechkin is all of a sudden better then Crosby, and Ovechkin is now winning the poll because he has more points because Crosby is hurt. He's still better then Ovechkin.

I hate to bring this back up...but Ovechkin shoots the puck more then anyone else in the league and plays physical, Crosby is an overall better player, makes his teammates look better then they are, and is just clearly the overall better player, not to mention would have more goals if they shot the puck as much as Ovechkin does, but he doesn't, because the plays Crosby makes are the plays Ovechkin could never make with the puck. Ovechkin is a master at shooting the puck at any position...Crosby is a master with the puck, period.

And Malkin is great too and really has taken over since Crosby has been hurt and should definitely be considered for MVP, he and Ty Conklin alone have been keeping the Pens alive in games. I still wouldn't say he's at the calibure of Crosby but he definitely can be compared with Ovechkin.

[Liberator13]

Pavel Datsyuk.


That's right.






Crosby.

[x1_nick_1x]

It was a good thing for the Penguins that Crosby got hurt. That made other players step up, such as Evgani Malkin, and realise their potential. Now with Crosby back, (and the Penguins winning their first game with his return) the Penguins will have a refreshed league MVP along with players who have been made better by necessity. Watch out for the Penguins. They're gonna make a deep playoff run this year.

Go Pens

[Capt_Canada]

If Crosby can shoot and get goals like Ovechkin then why doesn't he? That is the stupidest argument I heard, If I knew I could score a lot I would shoot not pass the puck.

Ovechkin plays a different role then Crosby, people set him up because he's good at scoring, Crosby isn't as great and thus set ups other players.

[poopchow]

from my limited knowledge of the players, especially crosby, i would say its like this.

Crosby is more like a magic johnson. people think he is amazing which he is, but scoring is not his forte although he is not bad at it. he can do everything well, handling the puck, passing, setting up others, etc.

Ovechkin (who i like more because the caps practice literally 3 minutes from me)- is more like a kobe who doesnt get as many rebs or assists as the real kobe, stats more similar to a ray allen or michael redd. he is a prolific scorer, but because of his position/skill set, he is not someone to have the all around game someone like a crosby. he is a sniper and can be relied on to shoot and score.

[x1_nick_1x]

Ovechkin doesn't make his team better (nor does Kobe). Being a better player has little to do with how much they score. Ovechkin scores, and that's about it. Crosby scores slightly less, but has many, MANY more assists than Ovechkin. Hockey is more than just scoring, and Crosby is well-rounded. Ovechkin is one dimensional. That's why Crosby is the best player today.

[poopchow]

Ovechkin doesn't make his team better (nor does Kobe). Being a better player has little to do with how much they score. Ovechkin scores, and that's about it. Crosby scores slightly less, but has many, MANY more assists than Ovechkin. Hockey is more than just scoring, and Crosby is well-rounded. Ovechkin is one dimensional. That's why Crosby is the best player today.

Ovechikin from my limited knowledge seems to be able "dominate" a game more, i believe thats mostly from his nasty ability to score.

[Marcos2990]

Ovechkin doesn't make his team better (nor does Kobe). Being a better player has little to do with how much they score. Ovechkin scores, and that's about it. Crosby scores slightly less, but has many, MANY more assists than Ovechkin. Hockey is more than just scoring, and Crosby is well-rounded. Ovechkin is one dimensional. That's why Crosby is the best player today.

Ovechkin is one dimensional?:lol: Ovechkin can score, hit (is 7th in the league in hits), can also pass and is probably one of the fastest players in the league. Also Ovechkin is making backstorm better playing on a line with (he leads all rookies in points)

[Masterbasser412]

Ovechkin doesn't make his team better (nor does Kobe). Being a better player has little to do with how much they score. Ovechkin scores, and that's about it. Crosby scores slightly less, but has many, MANY more assists than Ovechkin. Hockey is more than just scoring, and Crosby is well-rounded. Ovechkin is one dimensional. That's why Crosby is the best player today.

I'll be the first to defend Crosby on anything, but jeez this post is off.

[Shymega]

Some of you guys are crazy. Ovechkin is a great playmaker. He had 52 assists his rookie season, 46 last season and is on pace for close to 50 this season. If you've watched him play, you know damn well he can pass and see the ice very well, he's just a scorer first so he'll shoot before he gives up a pass. So we'll say Ovechkin is a 50 year assist man now.

Crosby is the opposite, but possesses both as well. He had friggin 39 goals as an 18 year old as a rookie. He had 36 last year, but played 75 games, so we'll say he could of had what he had the year before or even 40 goals. He was on pace for the same this year until he got hurt. So we'll say Crosby is a 40 goal scoring player now.

I look at goal totals as the equivalent to home run totals in baseball. 30 homers is solid, just like 30 goals is solid. 40 homers is great, just like 40 goals is great. 50+ homers is amazing, just 50+ goals is amazing.

I look at assists as the equivalent to RBI's, just with assists, it's times 2.25 the total. So 50 assists in hockey, is like 112 RBI's in baseball. 60 assists which is the elite group would be 135 RBI's. 70 assists which is hall of famer, or Crosby/Thornton type numbers is like 175 RBI's.

Baseball just doesn't have that elite, overall talent to drive that many in anymore, plus pitching is alot better.

Ovechkin is a 50+ homer 110+ RBI guy at age 22

Crosby is a 35-40 homer 175+ RBI guy at age 20.

Which guy would you take in baseball is the guy you should take in hockey, and that's Crosby.

[viper22]

Crosby is good no doubt, but Ovechkin is the new NHL, he is everthing

all around perfect in every aspect of the game.
57 goals 99 points while leading the capitals.

I predict ovy becoming captain and semin/backstrom are going to start getting some 80ish point seasons

[x1_nick_1x]

But the Pens are gonna win the cup this year. you can look at their stats all you want, but Ovechkin is not the best player. Sid is. Ovechkin is having a great season, but we've yet to see him be consistent. This is like Brett Favre doing good for one season then sucking again. If he can match his skill next year, I'll shut up. But Sid for now is the best. To me.

[Masterbasser412]

But the Pens are gonna win the cup this year.you can look at their stats all you want, but Ovechkin is not the best player. Sid is. Ovechkin is having a great season, but we've yet to see him be consistent. This is like Brett Favre doing good for one season then sucking again. If he can match his skill next year, I'll shut up. But Sid for now is the best. To me.

You seem pretty definite about that...

[x1_nick_1x]

I'm feelin pretty good about it. Without Crosby, they were still good enough to shoot themselves into first place for a while there. With Crosby, I'd be surprised if they didn't atleast make the finals...They have the talent for sure.

[Shymega]

But the Pens are gonna win the cup this year. you can look at their stats all you want, but Ovechkin is not the best player. Sid is. Ovechkin is having a great season, but we've yet to see him be consistent. This is like Brett Favre doing good for one season then sucking again. If he can match his skill next year, I'll shut up. But Sid for now is the best. To me.

What do you mean by that statement?

[x1_nick_1x]

It means he's still new. Look, Ovechkin can score. We know that. But look at the quality of goals by Crosby vs Ovechkin. Crosby has made some jaw dropping shots. He can get it done in tough situations. I just sense alot more promise out of Crosby than Ovechkin.

[Shymega]

It means he's still new. Look, Ovechkin can score. We know that. But look at the quality of goals by Crosby vs Ovechkin. Crosby has made some jaw dropping shots. He can get it done in tough situations. I just sense alot more promise out of Crosby than Ovechkin.

Watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eorWhtV9Aqk

And that video was made before this season.

Here's a good Crosby video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8ZJy7A2cak&feature=related

Regardless, both are unreal.

[sweet]

I have to go with Ovy. he leads in ppg gwg goals points a is 11th in hits

[chalupa]

Having watched them both live, I'd have to say that the Kid is better. He hit the holes in the defense better, made better passes, is phenomenal on the puck. Ovy is also great, but not as dynamic. Crosby is also hurt this year (as has been mentioned), so the numbers can't be compared.

I'm not saying Ovechkin is not freaking amazing great, I just think Syd is a little better.

All that said, I'd take a team with either, really. But I still think I'd pick Crosby first.

Don't flame me, I just have an opinion.

[Masterbasser412]

Having watched them both live, I'd have to say that the Kid is better. He hit the holes in the defense better, made better passes, is phenomenal on the puck. Ovy is also great, but not as dynamic. Crosby is also hurt this year (as has been mentioned), so the numbers can't be compared.

I'm not saying Ovechkin is not freaking amazing great, I just think Syd is a little better.

All that said, I'd take a team with either, really. But I still think I'd pick Crosby first.

Don't flame me, I just have an opinion.

It's ok, all you're doing is telling the truth. ;)