The Patriots Lose!!!

[x1_nick_1x]

This will, without a doubt, go down as the greatest superbowl of all time. Why? The greatest team in history trying for a perfect season against America's new favorite team. One of the most hated teams in all of sports. A score of 17-14 in favor of New York, who had to rally with only 2:30 left on the clock. A score which I accurately predicted before the start of the game.

When all is said and done, justice was served. Fuck the Patriots. Congratulations to the Giants. You are my heros.

[k0n_]

bandwagon much?

[GRTBIRDMAN]

I already said this in another thread but fuck it...

New York Giants =

C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

[pacaveli]

If you had any brain in your head the title would have been "The Giants Win" The Patriots Lose implies that they had the game and lost it instead of the giants being a better team on this day....

[Mr. Heskey]

The greatest team in history

Incorrect.

[stein17]

Son Of A Bitch Fuck The Giants And Fuck You All!!!!!!

[x1_nick_1x]

If you had any brain in your head the title would have been "The Giants Win" The Patriots Lose implies that they had the game and lost it instead of the giants being a better team....

Is that so? Did the Giants not have the lead, and give it up to the Patriots? Likewise, did the Patriots not have the lead, and give it back to the giants? So if that's your logic, the giants had the game, lost it, the Pats had the game, then lost it. They just happened to lose it after the giants.

[BostonBlows]

The fall of Boston.

Mark my words.

[TheFondler]

'Li pulled it off. Wow.

[pacaveli]

Is that so? Did the Giants not have the lead, and give it up to the Patriots? Likewise, did the Patriots not have the lead, and give it back to the giants? So if that's your logic, the giants had the game, lost it, the Pats had the game, then lost it. They just happened to lose it after the giants.

your a complete fuckwit

the title suggests that the pats had a defining play that lost them the game that normally wouldn't happen like some type of fluke trick play.

Discussion a couple years back about weather the Heat won the championship or the Mavericks lost it was held them.

the same applies it was a GREAT game played by both sides, no team lost the game by a fluke play or just terrible playing all throughout, it was won by the giants the giants TOOK the game from the pats, the pats did not hand the game over in a basket. The giants WON the game.

[ColdWaXX]

I haven't heard about this until now, thank you.

[Shorty|*|RocK89]

whoooooooooooo fuck you Boston, Your perefect season and Tom Brady. The next New York team is the Yankees.

[Norgol]

THIS IS BULL CRAP EVERYONE ITS A CONSPIRACY THE PATRIOTS WERE THE REAL FUCKING WINNERSs.

[IHateEverything]

ZOMG Conspiracy! George Bush made the Patriots lose!!111!!!

[psychomonkey62]

Son Of A Bitch Fuck The Giants And Fuck You All!!!!!!

I Can Type Like This Too.

[stein17]

it was all in caps dick I didnt change it

[ehogepr]

THIS IS BULL CRAP EVERYONE ITS A CONSPIRACY THE PATRIOTS WERE THE REAL FUCKING WINNERSs.

No, the Giants were the better team tonight and they won fair and square. 23 qb pressures? 5 sacks? The defense creamed Brady and the O and did I mention the Patriots had only 274 net yards?

Not to mention Eli's 83 yard game winning drive.

No conspiracy.

[x1_nick_1x]

your a complete fuckwit

the title suggests that the pats had a defining play that lost them the game that normally wouldn't happen like some type of fluke trick play.

Discussion a couple years back about weather the Heat won the championship or the Mavericks lost it was held them.

the same applies it was a GREAT game played by both sides, no team lost the game by a fluke play or just terrible playing all throughout, it was won by the giants the giants TOOK the game from the pats, the pats did not hand the game over in a basket. The giants WON the game.

Am I a complete fuckwit? Ok man, sorry for being a fuckwit. Maybe you just misinterpreted my title. I named it the patriots lose because I hate the pats, along with most of everyone else in this country, and it just seems like a more exciting thing to say than the Giants win.

The Pats are a classless bunch. I mean, their coach left the field before the game was even over. They got what was comming to them.

[pacaveli]

o.O everyone thought the game was over... don't ruin a great game by claiming that a team with class is classless just because u don't like them

[sprak_]

there was nothing classless about it... the clock actually ran down to zero when people started running onto the field, then they put one second back on it

[darkesthorizon]

I wouldn't say greatest superbowl of all time, cause it wasn't, not even the biggest upset. But god damn! I AM LOVIN THAT THE GIANTS WON! TAKE THAT YOU PUSSIFIED NEW ENGLAND FAGS! OH THERE WON'T BE A CELEBRATION IN BEANTOWN TONIGHT! CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE!

[DontBottaMe13]

T He Gmennnnnnnnnnnnn

[GALLIENVS AVG]

I wouldn't say greatest superbowl of all time, cause it wasn't, not even the biggest upset. But god damn! I AM LOVIN THAT THE GIANTS WON! TAKE THAT YOU PUSSIFIED NEW ENGLAND FAGS! OH THERE WON'T BE A CELEBRATION IN BEANTOWN TONIGHT! CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE!

18 straight wins is still pretty damn good and a record breaker. You people make me laugh.

The Giants outplayed the Patriots tonight, Brady threw the game away by sucking so much. Seriously, his passes were horrible. Patriots didn't deserve the win.

[darkesthorizon]

18 straight wins is still pretty damn good and a record breaker. You people make me laugh.

The Giants outplayed the Patriots tonight, Brady threw the game away by sucking so much. Seriously, his passes were horrible. Patriots didn't deserve the win.

Oh you can not blame Tom Brady for the lost. O Line fucked, there's what? 4 probowlers on that O line? Brady couldn't even breathe it was so crowed back there. The Giants Dline just whip their ass.

[YankeesSuck]

whoooooooooooo fuck you Boston, Your perefect season and Tom Brady. The next New York team is the Yankees.
Is there a echo on this forum?

[PsiRedEye22]

Sports fans are angry people by nature. I live outside of Boston, and my team lost a game. A game where you toss a football. Oh noes. Someone please explain the trash all over Boston from pissed off cavemen. That is savage behavior.

Fuck you, sports. You turn decent Americans into complete fuckfaces. Moreso than the internet.

[TheArchfiend]

What's a Super Bowl? :confuzed:

[Much Too Lazy]

at least it was an NFC EAST team that won that's all i care

[Mysterio]

Yes I was soo happy!! Giants are one of my favorite team (long with titans) ad I HATE the Pats. SO I was really glad tosee them win back 2 back Mannings which i kinda neat!

[moose]

18 straight wins is still pretty damn good and a record breaker. You people make me laugh.

The Giants outplayed the Patriots tonight, Brady threw the game away by sucking so much. Seriously, his passes were horrible. Patriots didn't deserve the win.


He downplayed that ankle injury too much.... I'm not making excuses because the Giants deserved to win, they played better tonight and have played better during the last 2 months of the year, but you obviously could tell Brady could not plant his foot to make a decent throw. He was short on a few passes because he couldn't plant right and it made a couple of his other throws go off..... I think if he was healthy and they would've attempted a FG on 4th and 13 we'd be talking about a perfect season. I would make an excuse that the patriots got raped on a few calls.... that one catch by toomer on the left sideline(I think it was toomer) ....he obviously basically punched hobbs in the face with the ball in the air and on that long pass to the TE you can obviously see Jacobs horse collar and take down one of the LB's from behind who was blitzing. All in all the Giants defense played light's out and that was what won you the game.


The Patriots will beat the Cowboys in next years game so I'll have that to look forward too..... oh and the #7 pick in the draft and A TON OF CAP ROOM for free agency

[TheArchfiend]

Not to rain on any Giants fans parade... but did anyone notice that the backfield ref started waving his hands to stop the play but then changed his mind when Manning broke free on the amazing pass to Tyree in the 4th quarter?

I hate the Patriots and all, but forward progress was more than stopped and the ref backed out of the right call.

By the way, the NFL and all news outlets are totally avoiding the one replay camera angle that clearly shows the ref starting to wave his arms to stop the play on a forward progress stopage. If you watch a replay of the game they show it one time during the game and never on the replays that I have seen today. The one thing you do see in the replays today is the backfield ref run directly into the QB pocket which NEVER happens unless there is a penalty, fight, turnover or stoppage.

[antoine2589]

Is there a echo on this forum?


PATRIOTS LOST YOU SUCK HAHAHAHHAHA FAG

[IHateEverything]

Not to rain on any Giants fans parade... but did anyone notice that the backfield ref started waving his hands to stop the play but then changed his mind when Manning broke free on the amazing pass to Tyree in the 4th quarter?

I hate the Patriots and all, but forward progress was more than stopped and the ref backed out of the right call.

By the way, the NFL and all news outlets are totally avoiding the one replay camera angle that clearly shows the ref starting to wave his arms to stop the play on a forward progress stopage. If you watch a replay of the game they show it one time during the game and never on the replays that I have seen today. The one thing you do see in the replays today is the backfield ref run directly into the QB pocket which NEVER happens unless there is a penalty, fight, turnover or stoppage.

Everything you said was true. But the Patriots have cheated so many times over the past 6 years that I don't care if the Giants won on a bullshit call like that. I have a feeling the referees felt the same way.

[sublimenal]

18-1 Still a very historical season even if those new york slobs did come in and take our rings.

[IHateEverything]

18-1 Still a very historical season even if those new york slobs did come in and take our rings.

lol yes, it is historic. The most overrated one lose team to not win a championship in the history of sports. Well done, cheaters. LOL

[sprak_]

Not to rain on any Giants fans parade... but did anyone notice that the backfield ref started waving his hands to stop the play but then changed his mind when Manning broke free on the amazing pass to Tyree in the 4th quarter?

I hate the Patriots and all, but forward progress was more than stopped and the ref backed out of the right call.

By the way, the NFL and all news outlets are totally avoiding the one replay camera angle that clearly shows the ref starting to wave his arms to stop the play on a forward progress stopage. If you watch a replay of the game they show it one time during the game and never on the replays that I have seen today. The one thing you do see in the replays today is the backfield ref run directly into the QB pocket which NEVER happens unless there is a penalty, fight, turnover or stoppage.


That would have been the worst call in sports history... the guy got a hold of Eli's shirt for one second... that's not stopping forward progress. So what if the ref thought for a sec it was gonna be a sack? So did the rest of the world.

[TheArchfiend]

That would have been the worst call in sports history... the guy got a hold of Eli's shirt for one second... that's not stopping forward progress. So what if the ref thought for a sec it was gonna be a sack? So did the rest of the world.

Actually, that exact play gets called as a stopage by the ref's 9 out of 10 times during the regular season. It would have been an iffy call if they made it last night but it would technically be the right one.

[sprak_]

Actually, that exact play gets called as a stopage by the ref's 9 out of 10 times during the regular season. It would have been an iffy call if they made it last night but it would technically be the right one.

make up whatever numbers you want, that would have been a terrible call

and I disagree anyway... those plays are never called sacks if the QB doesn't give up on it

[TheArchfiend]

make up whatever numbers you want, that would have been a terrible call

and I disagree anyway... those plays are never called sacks if the QB doesn't give up on it

Hey, the ref was in agreement with me. Go back and watch the original broadcast where they clearly show a replay of the ref WAVING his hands to stop the play. And even if you don't see that you can still see that same ref running in at the very end of every camera angle from that play. Why the hell was he running into the MIDDLE OF DIRECT PLAY? Did he want Eli's autograph? Exactly.

The ref made a call and changed his mind at the last possible split second. Period.

Your letting your bias against New England or favortism towards New York blind you on this one.

[tehStreets]

Like I said in the other thread, I dont understand why patiots would go for it on 4th and 13 when they were up 4 points. Just kick the fieldgoal.

Im now starting to get tired of mercury morris and his 17-0 team, not giving credit to the patiots when they go 18-0. His team is one of the greatest in history but still, give some credit when some team goes 18-0.

[Eaglefan9727]

Not to rain on any Giants fans parade... but did anyone notice that the backfield ref started waving his hands to stop the play but then changed his mind when Manning broke free on the amazing pass to Tyree in the 4th quarter?

I hate the Patriots and all, but forward progress was more than stopped and the ref backed out of the right call.

By the way, the NFL and all news outlets are totally avoiding the one replay camera angle that clearly shows the ref starting to wave his arms to stop the play on a forward progress stopage. If you watch a replay of the game they show it one time during the game and never on the replays that I have seen today. The one thing you do see in the replays today is the backfield ref run directly into the QB pocket which NEVER happens unless there is a penalty, fight, turnover or stoppage.

I agree as well. I saw that play a few times myself and it should have been called "in the grass" for a sack. Another bad call was that fumble recovery earlier in the game. It should have been Patriots ball.

[sprak_]

Hey, the ref was in agreement with me. Go back and watch the original broadcast where they clearly show a replay of the ref WAVING his hands to stop the play. And even if you don't see that you can still see that same ref running in at the very end of every camera angle from that play. Why the hell was he running into the MIDDLE OF DIRECT PLAY? Did he want Eli's autograph? Exactly.

The ref made a call and changed his mind at the last possible split second. Period.

Your letting your bias against New England or favortism towards New York blind you on this one.

So what if started running into the middle of the play? It looked like Manning was about to be sacked. With less than a min left in the game he needed to be there to spot the ball quickly if Manning did go down. It doesn't matter if he was thinking about making a call. Clearly he was not in agreement with you, as he decided it was not the right call to make.

[TheArchfiend]

Like I said in the other thread, I dont understand why patiots would go for it on 4th and 13 when they were up 4 points. Just kick the fieldgoal.

Im now starting to get tired of mercury morris and his 17-0 team, not giving credit to the patiots when they go 18-0. His team is one of the greatest in history but still, give some credit when some team goes 18-0.

18 and 0 don't mean shit when it takes 19 wins to get a perfect season with a championship in the NFL. That's the difference and Mercury is free to run his mouth until a team shuts it and go's undefeated.

What they did with 18 wins was phenomonal. What they did to not win in game number 19 was EPIC.

They deserve ALOT of criticism for not pulling out a win on this one. New England was a team of mostly established champions versus a team with no chance in hell.

The Patriots lost, big time. Epic loss. Mega grand supreme master loss.

So what if started running into the middle of the play? It looked like Manning was about to be sacked. With less than a min left in the game he needed to be there to spot the ball quickly if Manning did go down. It doesn't matter if he was thinking about making a call. Clearly he was not in agreement with you, as he decided it was not the right call to make.

Wow, are you still talking?

[tehStreets]

Of course it was an epic failure that they lost the superbowl after going 18-0 but still give the team credit. 18-0 is a huge feat, plus all the nfl records they broke. Im not even a patiots fan I for one wanted them to lose, and the underdogs to win. In my opinion the patiots are still one of the best teams to play even if they did lose the superbowl.

[sprak_]

oops I forgot if you say "I hate the Patriots" any opinion you have that would have benefited the Patriots automatically becomes fact

[TheArchfiend]

Of course it was an epic failure that they lost the superbowl after going 18-0 but still give the team credit. 18-0 is a huge feat, plus all the nfl records they broke. Im not even a patiots fan I for one wanted them to lose, and the underdogs to win. In my opinion the patiots are still one of the best teams to play even if they did lose the superbowl.

With all due respect, all that greatness in the 18 win stretch makes the ONE loss that much bigger and LESSENS the signifigance of winning 18 in a row and breaking records left and right.

Example of how this pertains to another sport is Alex Rodriguez. He is without a doubt the best player in basbeball over the past 10 or so years. His post season performance SEVERELY hurts his total credibility to the point that the team he plays for didn't mind that he wanted to leave after having a career/MVP calibur season this year. If you can't win when it TRUELY matters that your past achievements will be somewhat tarnished.

[x1_nick_1x]

o.O everyone thought the game was over... don't ruin a great game by claiming that a team with class is classless just because u don't like them

Well apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so because there was a write up on msn about it. Here's a few examples of classlessness that I noticed.

1) Belichick left the field before the game was over. Regardless of the error on the clock which was quickly fixed. Any coach who runs off the field like that with just a half-assed hand shake to the other coach and two words is classless.

2) Tom Brady in an interview talking about Burress, who predicted a score of I think 20-17. When Brady heard Burress's prediction, he gave that arrogant laugh and said "17? That's it? Is Burress playing defense? I'd be happier if he predicted 45-42." Clearly Brady is full of himself.

3) If you payed attention to Harrison, you'd see that he has ignited more close call fights than just about any other player in the NFL.

4) They got caught cheating and provided no explanation. I don't care if every other team supposedly does it. Prove that to me and I'll let it slide, but the Pats got caught. Bottom line.



The Pats got exactly what they needed. A kick in the face to knock that smug look off Brady and Belichick's face. I mean, if you have an example of the Patriots engaging in a classy act, for the love of God please let me know because I havn't seen it yet.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

He downplayed that ankle injury too much.... I'm not making excuses because the Giants deserved to win, they played better tonight and have played better during the last 2 months of the year, but you obviously could tell Brady could not plant his foot to make a decent throw. He was short on a few passes because he couldn't plant right and it made a couple of his other throws go off..... I think if he was healthy and they would've attempted a FG on 4th and 13 we'd be talking about a perfect season. I would make an excuse that the patriots got raped on a few calls.... that one catch by toomer on the left sideline(I think it was toomer) ....he obviously basically punched hobbs in the face with the ball in the air and on that long pass to the TE you can obviously see Jacobs horse collar and take down one of the LB's from behind who was blitzing. All in all the Giants defense played light's out and that was what won you the game.


The Patriots will beat the Cowboys in next years game so I'll have that to look forward too..... oh and the #7 pick in the draft and A TON OF CAP ROOM for free agency

Yeah, those plays you mentioned were ridiculous, but if you went back and looked closely, you could probably find instances where the Pats should have been called for penalties, too. That's why I hate using the referee factor often.

[PattyWackit]

"We're only going to score 17? hahaha OK" - Tom Brady

[Sketcher]

"We're only going to score 17? hahaha OK" - Tom Brady

Brady is such an arrogant dickhead.

[pacaveli]

Well apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so because there was a write up on msn about it. Here's a few examples of classlessness that I noticed.

1) Belichick left the field before the game was over. Regardless of the error on the clock which was quickly fixed. Any coach who runs off the field like that with just a half-assed hand shake to the other coach and two words is classless.

he did a hand shake and a hug pat on the back thing... yup thats a pretty weak thing do to of a coach. The game was over, Belichick wasn't the only one to think so, thus everyone on the field...

2) Tom Brady in an interview talking about Burress, who predicted a score of I think 20-17. When Brady heard Burress's prediction, he gave that arrogant laugh and said "17? That's it? Is Burress playing defense? I'd be happier if he predicted 45-42." Clearly Brady is full of himself.

He plays offense, hes the leader, he has to be confident in his team because whats the other option, admitting defeat before the game is played...?

3) If you payed attention to Harrison, you'd see that he has ignited more close call fights than just about any other player in the NFL.

It's the NFL its a physical game, they hit each other for a living, hes an intense player, if he was on your team you'd love him

4) They got caught cheating and provided no explanation. I don't care if every other team supposedly does it. Prove that to me and I'll let it slide, but the Pats got caught. Bottom line.

What explanation do you want them to give, they got fined for it, they attempted to cheat just as every other team has (Green Bay was caught doing it a couple years back)


The Pats got exactly what they needed. A kick in the face to knock that smug look off Brady and Belichick's face. I mean, if you have an example of the Patriots engaging in a classy act, for the love of God please let me know because I havn't seen it yet.

the D line congratulating the O line at the end of the game, just to name one...

[x1_nick_1x]

Well, we have a disagreement. It was a nice thing of them to do, seeing as they are the experienced mature older guys, but the team representatives and leaders are Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.

[Demand Curve]

the D line congratulating the O line at the end of the game, just to name one...
Ok that's one, lets hear some more.

[Bergs]

Hey, the ref was in agreement with me. Go back and watch the original broadcast where they clearly show a replay of the ref WAVING his hands to stop the play. And even if you don't see that you can still see that same ref running in at the very end of every camera angle from that play. Why the hell was he running into the MIDDLE OF DIRECT PLAY? Did he want Eli's autograph? Exactly.

The ref made a call and changed his mind at the last possible split second. Period.

Your letting your bias against New England or favortism towards New York blind you on this one.

And you're letting your stupidity blind you.

He was the backfield judge, he didnt have the correct perspective to see where Eli was from behind, and him calling the play did would have been the worst call in NFL history. Forward progress was NOT stopped and they had no control over him, as soon as the ref realized this he pulled off because he knew he would be making a boneheaded horrible disastrous call that would have undermined the integrity of the game. Let them play. He did, and history and a clip that will forever be played on Super Bowl highlight reals, in the words of Boston homer Bill Simmons, "The Miracle Play to be Named Later" was made.

[thelostsoul]

Brady is such an arrogant dickhead.


Says the guy with the giants logo in his signature. According the papers down here(philly),they made it seem like brady was joking around,which he probably was,but you new england haters have to make it in to a big deal.

[sprak_]

And you're letting your stupidity blind you.

He was the backfield judge, he didnt have the correct perspective to see where Eli was from behind, and him calling the play did would have been the worst call in NFL history. Forward progress was NOT stopped and they had no control over him, as soon as the ref realized this he pulled off because he knew he would be making a boneheaded horrible disastrous call that would have undermined the integrity of the game. Let them play. He did, and history and a clip that will forever be played on Super Bowl highlight reals, in the words of Boston homer Bill Simmons, "The Miracle Play to be Named Later" was made.

He is dumber than I thought. I just watched the play (from the live broadcast) about 10x and the referee is never waving his hands. He runs toward the line, probably because there were about 5 linemen blocking his view of the QB/ball.

[pat99872]

Simply an amazing game how the giants did that with less than 1 minute on the clock.

Fuck the patriots.

[TheArchfiend]

And you're letting your stupidity blind you.

He was the backfield judge, he didnt have the correct perspective to see where Eli was from behind, and him calling the play did would have been the worst call in NFL history. Forward progress was NOT stopped and they had no control over him, as soon as the ref realized this he pulled off because he knew he would be making a boneheaded horrible disastrous call that would have undermined the integrity of the game. Let them play. He did, and history and a clip that will forever be played on Super Bowl highlight reals, in the words of Boston homer Bill Simmons, "The Miracle Play to be Named Later" was made.

lol... the backfield judge is the one that usually call quarterback forward progress stoppage since he is usually the one closest to the quarterback.

Oh and there are about a thousand instances when play just like this and lesser were blown dead by the ref's. Like I said originally, it is an iffy call but it is a tecnically correct call by the rules. The ref's usually let a play like that go on in the playoffs, which is good in my opinion.

I have no stake or care in either of these teams... do you? Exactly.

He is dumber than I thought. I just watched the play (from the live broadcast) about 10x and the referee is never waving his hands. He runs toward the line, probably because there were about 5 linemen blocking his view of the QB/ball.

And during the game when 5 lineman were converging on Brady and Manning numerous times during the game blocking the view of the football that same ref came running RIGHT UP to the quarterback how many times....? Exactly.

[AsHopeDies]

Not to rain on any Giants fans parade... but did anyone notice that the backfield ref started waving his hands to stop the play but then changed his mind when Manning broke free on the amazing pass to Tyree in the 4th quarter?

A whistle ends a play, not waving your arms.

I watched the replays today and listened to the audio. I didn't really see much of an arm wave and definitely didn't hear a whistle. It looked to me that he ran in to get a better look at the play. Manning was moving the entire time, the play shouldn't have been blown dead and it wasn't.

[sprak_]

And during the game when 5 lineman were converging on Brady and Manning numerous times during the game blocking the view of the football that same ref came running RIGHT UP to the quarterback how many times....? Exactly.

...and about the ref "WAVING his hands to stop the play" which didn't happen?

It doesn't matter if you don't like or dislike either team, you are wrong about this. Clearly the referee did think for a second about whistling it dead, and decided it was not the right call.

[TheArchfiend]

...and about the ref "WAVING his hands to stop the play" which didn't happen?

It doesn't matter if you don't like or dislike either team, you are wrong about this. Clearly the referee did think for a second about whistling it dead, and decided it was not the right call.

Right that's MY EXACT POINT!! God you're thick headed.

I never said the play should of been blown dead all I was saying is that the Giants got LUCKY because the play COULD HAVE BEEN blown dead. People are sounding like plays like that have NEVER EVER been blown dead because they are Giants fans or just Patriot haters.

And once again, if the ref wasn't "thinking for a second" about blowing the play dead than why did he all of a sudden run into the direct line of play? Exactly.

That call could have gone either way on sunday. And that's a FACT. And that makes me RIGHT.

Pwnd.

[sprak_]

Your point was that the ref was waving his hands to stop the play, and then backed out of the right call. I said it would have been a terrible call, and then noticed that the ref was not waving his hands. Everything you said was based on something that didn't even happen. That makes you wrong.

I will agree with you that officials are capable of making huge mistakes on any given play.

[hipocritical]

Oh well, I guess the Pats will have to just start all over again, and play a season hopefully free of controversy and win the superbowl next year.

[YankeesSuck]

The guy in this video claims the Giants got extra time in their game winning drive. Watch it and tell me what you think.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=27384

[Disgustipated]

The guy in this video claims the Giants got extra time in their game winning drive. Watch it and tell me what you think.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=27384

I see where he is coming from, but his line of thinking isn't entirely right. If the clock had been running the whole time, the Giants wouldn't have been taking their sweet time running plays on the field. So, things may have not gone the way they did, but it certainly doesn't me the Giants still couldn't have won.

[YankeesSuck]

I see where he is coming from, but his line of thinking isn't entirely right. If the clock had been running the whole time, the Giants wouldn't have been taking their sweet time running plays on the field. So, things may have not gone the way they did, but it certainly doesn't me the Giants still couldn't have won.
Yeah thats true. Is that really suppose to be a penalty? Touching the ref 15 yard penalty. Never heard that one.

[sprak_]

Striking or purposely shoving a game official is a 15 yard penalty and automatic DQ. Obviously that's not what Coughlin did there.

[thelostsoul]

I believe I made a post about the clock mysteriously stopping on the giants last drive..I didnt watch the video,it's not loading right for me. But I noticed the clock stopped when it shouldn't have,sped up,then magically had more time on it then it shouldve have. Is this what the video is?

[Bergs]

Right that's MY EXACT POINT!! God you're thick headed.

I never said the play should of been blown dead all I was saying is that the Giants got LUCKY because the play COULD HAVE BEEN blown dead. People are sounding like plays like that have NEVER EVER been blown dead because they are Giants fans or just Patriot haters.

And once again, if the ref wasn't "thinking for a second" about blowing the play dead than why did he all of a sudden run into the direct line of play? Exactly.

That call could have gone either way on sunday. And that's a FACT. And that makes me RIGHT.

Pwnd.

Except I can go back in this thread and read what you actually said, which is this.

Not to rain on any Giants fans parade... but did anyone notice that the backfield ref started waving his hands to stop the play but then changed his mind when Manning broke free on the amazing pass to Tyree in the 4th quarter?

I hate the Patriots and all, but forward progress was more than stopped and the ref backed out of the right call.

So no, you dint say it could be blown dead, you said it SHOULD have been blown dead and that the ref made the wrong call, which is contradicted by the ref himself.

Mike Carey, the Super Bowl referee, told the Daily News on Wednesday that his "radar was definitely up" when Manning was clutched by two Patriots defenders with just over a minute left on Sunday night "because I knew a sack, or at least grasp and control, was imminent," he said.

But the sack never came. And when Patriots linemen Richard Seymour and Jarvis Green failed to stop Manning's forward momentum, Carey said "grasp and control" was never achieved either.

So stop with the backtracking and "Pwnd." LOLZ and grow the fuck up.

[YankeesSuck]

Pats had 30 seconds to work with and 3 full time outs. They have the best short pass attack. And should of used it. And could of got in field goal range with a few seconds to spare. They threw 3 bombs in that last 30 seconds probably could of got off 5 short passes. You never know Welker or someone could of broke a few tackles and bam touchdown. But Gostkowski could of made a 50-60 yard field goal in that dome. No wind or anything. Its not like them to just air out the ball and basically give up. Brady was trying to pull a Flutie.

[Nick is cool]

Yea that last drive was pretty pathetic.

[Liberator13]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/We-must-stop-the-unfair-treatment-of-the-New-Eng?urn=nfl%2C65863

Bwahahahha, what bitches!

[YankeesSuck]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/We-must-stop-the-unfair-treatment-of-the-New-Eng?urn=nfl%2C65863

Bwahahahha, what bitches!
Nice thanks to that guy that petition will get more signatures. I didnt even know about the petition till now.

[Liberator13]

If you actually believe and sign that, I may declare you legally insane.

[YankeesSuck]

If you actually believe and sign that, I may declare you legally insane.
Those petitions are worthless and usually go nowhere so no. I'm having fun with it. Its people arguing like its a message board lol.

But yes I believe the whole time thing. I dont think Pats fans made that though.

[sycolv]

Oh you can not blame Tom Brady for the lost. O Line fucked, there's what? 4 probowlers on that O line? Brady couldn't even breathe it was so crowed back there. The Giants Dline just whip their ass.

I gotta argue this one, Brady just isnt used to gettn pressure. You shouldnt hold that ball nelonger then 4 secs and he had enough time. ooh yeah and pats lost sweetness:boink: