*The New 2008 European Football Thread [Archive]

4savo4

02-18-2008, 07:55 PM

What does everyone else think about the semis being played at Wembley?

Kind of ruins the specialty of the FA Cup final a little bit, in my opinion. Plus the annoying thing of traveling to London twice. But I suppose then Man Utd fans won't have far to travel. ;)
Who do you support i have no idea?

If liverpool got there they would have furthest all of them coming from Norway eh? LOL

Not that good F.A Trying to get themselfs out the shit.

I don't see why it can't be held at our "second home" Villa park. if we get through.

Just a bastard for teams up north, it costs money this is what all these execs and all these board members don't realise as they don't live in the real world. The final yeah you can save up for that but the semi and the final?

Shymega

02-18-2008, 09:32 PM

lol. im sure its mainly for the money so they can pay more towards the stadium

Yup, more money. 90,000 spectators or somewhere around 35,000 depending which stadium, if not played in Wembley.

It's fair in a way of a neutral site, but it takes away the feel a little bit by not playing in a teams real home.

USB

02-19-2008, 07:32 AM

Yup, more money. 90,000 spectators or somewhere around 35,000 depending which stadium, if not played in Wembley.

It's fair in a way of a neutral site, but it takes away the feel a little bit by not playing in a teams real home.

yep. although for teams like bristol rovers thinking that we're only 1 game away from wembley again is nice

Shymega

02-19-2008, 10:52 AM

That would be a nice feat^

Which game should i watch today? It's a toss up between Roma/Madrid or Liverpool/Inter. I'm interested to see how Liverpool will perform, plus it's on real TV on ESPN2 here today. However, i think the Roma/Madrid is going to be a better game, just a hunch.

Let's get some predictions in for today.

Roma 2 Madrid 1

Liverpool 1 Inter 1

Schalke 1 Porto 0

Olympiacos 0 Chelsea 2

Shymega

02-20-2008, 09:43 PM

Olympiacos supporters..intimidating as hell..no wonder Chelsea couldn't score:redface:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8b7a-7SHWWc

4savo4

02-21-2008, 11:01 AM

HAHAHA That was absoloute class last night when Souness said he could of Signed Cantona but turned him down Hahaha.

Bet Liverpool fans feel sick hearing that.

Shymega

02-22-2008, 02:33 PM

Uefa Cup, round of 16 - Beginning March 8th

Tottenham V PSV

Rangers V Werder Bremen

Getafe V Benfica

Fiorentina V Everton

Bayer Leverkussen V Hamburg

Marseille V Zenit

Anderlecht V Bayern Munich

Bolton V Sporting

Ones in bold are intriguing.

Marcos2990

02-22-2008, 04:30 PM

no real madrid loss :wah:

Shymega

02-22-2008, 05:07 PM

no real madrid loss :wah:

All they need is a 1-0 win at home and they win on away goals. I'm sure they'll do it, no worries.

Marcos2990

02-22-2008, 07:41 PM

All they need is a 1-0 win at home and they win on away goals. I'm sure they'll do it, no worries.

ya I know but I still wanted them to win

Henkie

02-23-2008, 06:20 AM

Uefa Cup, round of 16 - Beginning March 8th

Tottenham V PSV

This one ought to be interesting, but I've got my money on PSV. We've got a good defence, and the problems we're having are with creating space against extremely defensive teams. So far we've beaten Ajax, Feyenoord and AZ without a problem, but we were worried by VVV.

As such, Tottenham shouldn't be too much of a problem. I'll even say that PSV has got a decent shot at winning the UEFA-cup this year.

Marcos2990

02-23-2008, 07:14 PM

Holy shit that was horrible what happen to Eduardo. Watching it over again and it made me cringe :ohnoes:

The Messiah

02-23-2008, 08:58 PM

Holy shit that was horrible what happen to Eduardo. Watching it over again and it made me cringe :ohnoes:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2zir8f5.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/dmb4as.jpg

S10000

02-23-2008, 09:09 PM

Holy shit Eduardo got rocked. Was the foul intentional? It says Taylor got a straight red but was it that he just was too slow or did he intentionally try to injure him. I only saw the pictures on Youtube and they look horrible.

Anyways, I hate having to pay goddamn 10 dollars extra a month to get select games and repeats of the same match over and over. ESPN claims to air some of the UEFA cup but they play the games at 3 in the morning after fucking Womens Basketball and College hockey.

Its hard to follow many of the european leagues due to lack of coverage but I am able to watch Eto'o and Barcelona because of GOL TV. Keep doing what you do spainards, your tv station rules.

S10000

02-23-2008, 09:14 PM

Just found a video of the clip, the youtube one is down

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1811652

Looks like a horrible challenge

Shymega

02-23-2008, 09:44 PM

Here's a real video of it.
http://www.footytube.com/2008/02/23/arsenal-v-birmingham-eduardo-injury/

Shymega

02-23-2008, 09:47 PM

Just found a video of the clip, the youtube one is down

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1811652

Looks like a horrible challenge

Youtube is not allowed to broadcast Premier League and Uefa clips. People try putting them up, but they are usually taken down in hours.

Rado

02-23-2008, 11:10 PM

It wasn't intentional, just a very late challenge. The damage was caused because of the speed of approach between the two players, Taylor was too slow to it and it was unfortunate for Eduardo. Very nasty outcome. I do feel for Eduardo, even though I hate Arsenal, it's a one in a kind horrific outcome, remind me of Dave Buust (Sp?) of Coventry against Man Utd some 10 odd years or whatever ago.

Though Newcastle 1 - 5 Man Utd is brilliant. : - D

JerkyMyTurky

02-24-2008, 03:49 AM

That is really bad injury. It looked like the bone broke through his skin. I feel a pit in my stomach after looking at the pictures and watching the video. I don't think it intentional, but very very poor challenge. Eduardo is a very class player, one of the main reasons Croatia finished top of their group to qualify for Euro 2008. He is 25, hopefully he can recover. They didn't say there was any ligament damage, so that is good news. Ligament and tendon damage can be very hard to recover from, while fractures heal and steal plates and screws are most likely going to be placed to reinforce it. Also, I don't think a lifetime ban is necessary, but he should be suspended for a few games.

4savo4

02-24-2008, 04:34 AM

Lifetime ban for Taylor? Yet when I think it was flamini who jumped into Nani it was ok because he was "Showboating".

Unlucky for Eduardo because 9 times out of ten the player jumps maybe tumbles over and it's not even a yellow.

YorkshireMan

02-24-2008, 08:23 AM

Yeah im sure he didn't do it on purpose, think the arsenal dude was just very unlucky.

Pretty nasty when they showed it on MOTD, cud actually see the bone sticking out of the sock.

Quiet_Riot

02-24-2008, 09:14 AM

http://www.net.hr/sport/page/2008/02/23/0067006.html

Looks like the injury isn't as horrid as it looks. Apparently the first info Primorac got from Arsenal's doctors is that Edu is rather looking at a 6 months break, not a year-long one. He was promptly operated in Birmingham where it was established that he'd only (insert irony) broken his outer bone (fibula) in his left foot, whereas the inner bone was left intact. This was confirmed by both Gary Lewin and Edu's wife. Further exams will be taken in London, where Edu will be transported tomorrow.
A glimmer of hope indeed

Wish it had been Nani/Ronaldo/Tevez/Rooney/Anderson/Fergie though.

Rado

02-24-2008, 09:34 AM

The thought of someone going to the dugout and tackling Fergie is pretty funny :lol:.

Thomson

02-24-2008, 12:46 PM

funny, i didn't hear anyone calling for a ban on Roy Keane when he bust up that guys leg.

and it was worse because Keane did it on purpose.

fucking scummers

Shymega

02-24-2008, 02:10 PM

4savo4

02-24-2008, 05:22 PM

Will Eduardo be available for saturday or what?

Was at Newcastle yesterday heard a class new Anderson chant.

Tune : Agadoo

Annnderson, son, son
He's better than Kleberson
Anderson, son, son
He's ouR midfield magician
To the left
to the right
Do the samba beat tonight
He is class with a brass
And he shit's on fabregas

Shymega

02-24-2008, 06:55 PM

Congrats Spurs. Great game.

First half highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Xg4dfzIuo&eurl=http://www.footytube.com/

2nd half
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBNAWGF1O8c&eurl=http://www.footytube.com/

Hot off the press. No extra time vid yet.
Extra time highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YsmT3XPbmI&eurl=http://www.footytube.com/2008/02/24/carling-cup-final-tottenham-v-chelsea/

The Messiah

02-24-2008, 08:21 PM

funny, i didn't hear anyone calling for a ban on Roy Keane when he bust up that guys leg.

and it was worse because Keane did it on purpose.

fucking scummers

Håland was shit though.

S10000

02-25-2008, 02:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoKX31Rh8Tg

Shymega

02-25-2008, 05:21 PM

Eduardo to return in 9 months.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3194726,00.html

Chezee

02-26-2008, 09:46 AM

Still celebrating the mighty spurs victory, juande will lead us to UEFA cup glory next, mark my word.

Shymega

02-26-2008, 10:26 AM

Still celebrating the mighty spurs victory, juande will lead us to UEFA cup glory next, mark my word.

It's definitely not a long shot. I'd say Fiorentina and Everton have looked the best, but of course Bayern are the favorites. If you can avoid 2 out of those 3, you have a great shot. Let's see how you handle PSV.

4savo4

02-26-2008, 10:38 AM

Massive Club (http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4413/citymugstp5.jpg)

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Henkie

02-26-2008, 01:12 PM

It's definitely not a long shot. I'd say Fiorentina and Everton have looked the best, but of course Bayern are the favorites. If you can avoid 2 out of those 3, you have a great shot. Let's see how you handle PSV.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I see PSV winning that one.

Quiet_Riot

02-28-2008, 01:35 PM

Håland was shit though.

Mmmmmmmuppet.

Massive Club (http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4413/citymugstp5.jpg)

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

They make more noise than your fans.

4savo4

02-28-2008, 01:38 PM

They make more noise than your fans.

Yeah, sounded like it agaisn't Everton.

Was it fancy dress? Seems lot's dressed up as blue seats.

Happy anniversary by the way. 32 years.

Quiet_Riot

02-28-2008, 02:06 PM

Yeah, sounded like it agaisn't Everton.

Still noisier than your lot. End of.

Was it fancy dress? Seems lot's dressed up as blue seats.

41,000 MANCS...a few thais..Much prefered to 67000 day-trippers, ta.
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Happy anniversary by the way. 32 years.

Same to you, 98 years.

4savo4

02-28-2008, 02:38 PM

Still noisier than your lot. End of.

Only when you play Man united.

250,000 MANCS...a few thais..Much prefered to 67000 day-trippers, ta.

Fixed i mean you are a massive club.

Same to you, 98 years.

Why, thank you.

Dr.Death been executed yet? He's gone back home hasn't he?

Quiet_Riot

02-28-2008, 05:53 PM

Why, thank you.

You don't even know what I'm talking about. :dunce:

4savo4

02-28-2008, 06:04 PM

Yep, when we moved to Old Trafford which you berties like to say is when we moved out of Manchester even though we have a Manchester post code and it's nearer to the town hall than wastelands. :dunce:

I suppose that's where you get the nickname the Liars.

Quiet_Riot

02-29-2008, 12:39 PM

it's nearer to the town hall than wastelands. :dunce:

Lol. No it isn't. :dunce:

I suppose that's where you get the nickname the Liars.

Utd are the biggest club in the world.
Utd took a million to Barcelona.
All their fans know all the words to the flowers of Manchester, they sing it before every match, every time.
All Utd fans are cool socialists.
Utd have the most loyal and hardest firm in the world. The cockney reds all come from Manchester.
Utd fans are so cool they never wear colours ever (the fact they sell 4 million shirts a week is irrelevant)
Utd have the BEST stadium in the whole world.
Utd fans NEVER sing about death as they know only too well how it feels.
All the famous bands and musicians in Manchester support Man United. All of them. There are no embarrasing celeb fans, they are all cool. They ALL come from Manchester.
All Utd fans have the first Stone Roses Album (Ltd edition of course)
All Utd fans know the words to "One Love"
All Utd fans were at Spike Island, it was their special day.
There are no Utd fans in Stockport, and definitely non in London.
They are not in any way bothered about City which is why they never ever spend most of their matches singing nursery rhymes about us.
There are no City fans in Manchester. Not one, they all come from Stockport.
Eric Cantona is the best player in the world ever.
United have never received government aid to build the swamp (except for the full rebuild of the cantilever stand before the 66 world cup).
You just can't get a ticket for Old Trafford
The train to London Euston is never full of United fans. Ever. Never seen one.

Lies...man yoo? Nevar!

4savo4

02-29-2008, 04:42 PM

Lol. No it isn't. :dunce:

Utd are the biggest club in the world.
Utd took a million to Barcelona.
All their fans know all the words to the flowers of Manchester, they sing it before every match, every time.
All Utd fans are cool socialists.
Utd have the most loyal and hardest firm in the world. The cockney reds all come from Manchester.
Utd fans are so cool they never wear colours ever (the fact they sell 4 million shirts a week is irrelevant)
Utd have the BEST stadium in the whole world.
Utd fans NEVER sing about death as they know only too well how it feels.
All the famous bands and musicians in Manchester support Man United. All of them. There are no embarrasing celeb fans, they are all cool. They ALL come from Manchester.
All Utd fans have the first Stone Roses Album (Ltd edition of course)
All Utd fans know the words to "One Love"
All Utd fans were at Spike Island, it was their special day.
There are no Utd fans in Stockport, and definitely non in London.
They are not in any way bothered about City which is why they never ever spend most of their matches singing nursery rhymes about us.
There are no City fans in Manchester. Not one, they all come from Stockport.
Eric Cantona is the best player in the world ever.
United have never received government aid to build the swamp (except for the full rebuild of the cantilever stand before the 66 world cup).
You just can't get a ticket for Old Trafford
The train to London Euston is never full of United fans. Ever. Never seen one.

Lies...man yoo? Nevar!

One of.
Not as many as city took to Ewood park :rolleyes:
Blue Moon was your song and not crewes.
True :D
Back in the 70's yes. But hoolligans are shit.
What! only top reds don't wear shirts ;)
True
every club have nob heads.
The same as every manchester born United player support city?

Fuck it can't be arsed obviously copied and paste job

AsHopeDies

02-29-2008, 05:09 PM

wow...I could read this argument for hours :rollseyes:rollseyes

4savo4

02-29-2008, 05:14 PM

wow...I could read this argument for hours :rollseyes:rollseyes

You need a Spurs fan to be on here!:bigwink:

322

03-02-2008, 07:46 PM

can someone explain the differences of the uefa cup and the uefa champions league?

4savo4

03-02-2008, 07:53 PM

can someone explain the differences of the uefa cup and the uefa champions league?

Hmmm....

Well it used to be the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, but changed to Uefa cup i suppose it's just a European competition for the lesser teams if you know what i mean.

I think they have the same format?

322

03-02-2008, 08:08 PM

Hmmm....

Well it used to be the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, but changed to Uefa cup i suppose it's just a European competition for the lesser teams if you know what i mean.

I think they have the same format?

interesting...
I've only started following club football this year so it confused me. i've always been a fan of national football (world cup, euro cup) but it's very hard to follow the clubs living in Canada. It's not too hard to find a Man-U game or Barcelona, but i've decided to follow Bayern Munich being a fan of the German national team.

When did the teams qualify for the champions league?

4savo4

03-03-2008, 11:15 AM

interesting...
I've only started following club football this year so it confused me. i've always been a fan of national football (world cup, euro cup) but it's very hard to follow the clubs living in Canada. It's not too hard to find a Man-U game or Barcelona, but i've decided to follow Bayern Munich being a fan of the German national team.

When did the teams qualify for the champions league?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League Some information.

Hmmm... In England the top 4 teams get get a chance to be in the champions league with the top two automatically qualifying and the other having to play in a qualifying stage. With the winner progressing to the group stage.

I don't know how many Champions league 'spots' are in the other leagues.

Shymega

03-03-2008, 12:27 PM

can someone explain the differences of the uefa cup and the uefa champions league?

Champions League are the top teams from the top leagues in Europe playing in like a March madness type tourney, only without the shitty schools. Uefa Cup has more teams involved but the shitty teams are thrown in.

Uefa Cup is the teams who won any cup in their country(like England has the FA Cup and Carling Cup) or the next best team after the Champions League qualifiers.

This is worded completely wrong:dunce:..just read up on it at Wikipedia.

It can be confusing as hell.

JerkyMyTurky

03-04-2008, 05:31 PM

Well, the Fenerbahce - Sevilla game is going into extra session, as the game finished 3 - 2 for Sevilla, so the aggregate was 5-5. Very exciting game. It's going to be a very exciting finish. As most of the other games are finished, this game is worth tuning in for.

Edit: Fenerbahce eliminate Sevilla via penalties.

4savo4

03-04-2008, 07:02 PM

Fuck me we are never going to win the champions league with that twat Querioz fucking making us play 4-5-1.

Shymega

03-05-2008, 02:52 PM

Messi to miss the Quarters, he has a strained hamstring or something like that.

And here's Sevilla-Fener highlights. Crazy fuckin game.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-966824016712405306

mathue

03-05-2008, 04:52 PM

Bad move by espn putting the Chelsea-Olympiakos game on tonight instead Roma-Real Madrid.. they cant ever put a game on if its not the english damnit

Shymega

03-05-2008, 05:03 PM

Bad move by espn putting the Chelsea-Olympiakos game on tonight instead Roma-Real Madrid.. they cant ever put a game on if its not the english damnit

Yeah i saw that. Everyone knows Chelsea were gonna kill them. I'd rather see any of the other two, especially Madrid-Roma.

They did air Rangers-Barca back in November, though. So let's just say the U.K in general.

JerkyMyTurky

03-05-2008, 06:00 PM

The Marid - Roma game was without a doubt going to be a better game, ESPN dropped the ball. In their defense, they have always been pushing English football, so they are continuing to give their specific demographic the same content.

Marcos2990

03-05-2008, 07:09 PM

dammit another year with getting knockout early, first Juevetus then Arsenal then Bayern Munich and now AS Roma :banghead: was still an intense game though and I'll give it to Roma. Arsenal are now my favourite for the Championship.

JerkyMyTurky

03-05-2008, 10:39 PM

Teams that have advanced to the quarter finals so far...

Arsenal
Chelsea
Manchester U.
Roma
Fenerbahce
Schalke
Barcelona
Liverpool/Inter (determined next week)

Teams that were eliminated this passed round...

Milan
Real Madrid
Porto
Sevilla
Celtic
Olympiacos
Lyon

A few surprises advance, while a number of giants are eliminated. I'm looking forward to the draw next week.

Canty

03-06-2008, 12:29 AM

So unless Liverpool really fuck up that leaves us with:

4 English
1 Italian
1 Spanish
1 German
1 Turkish

If an Premiership team doesn't win it (I cant see how really) then it will be a major dissapointment.

Shymega

03-06-2008, 10:36 AM

AsHopeDies

03-06-2008, 12:18 PM

If an Premiership team doesn't win it (I cant see how really) then it will be a major dissapointment.

Can't see how? There are as many teams left that aren't from the Prem as there are.

4savo4

03-06-2008, 12:34 PM

Liverpool won't win it, Arsenal won't win it( even though the media are over hyping this win in Milan who are shit this year) United won't win it unless we fergie stops giving teams so much respect. Chelsea probally have the best chance.

I would put my money on Barca.

Canty

03-06-2008, 12:40 PM

Can't see how? There are as many teams left that aren't from the Prem as there are.

So you're expecting Fenerbahce and Schalke to progress pass the next round (unless they're drawn together)?

Henkie

03-06-2008, 12:52 PM

So you're expecting Fenerbahce and Schalke to progress pass the next round (unless they're drawn together)?

This Fenerbahce is pretty good, I'd give them a decent chance against Arsenal or Chelsea.

AsHopeDies

03-06-2008, 03:37 PM

So you're expecting Fenerbahce and Schalke to progress pass the next round (unless they're drawn together)?

Regardless of what I'm expecting, the chances of a non-English team winning seem pretty obvious to me. Sure, one of these teams has an excellent shot, but I personally just think that saying you "can't see how" another team can win when it sits at 50/50 is a bit much.

All you can argue that they've proven so far is that they are the top league. You cannot argue that they have the top team. Barca and Roma are damn good teams who have plenty of chance of winning it. That's like saying, if there were 7 championship teams and Manchester United left in the FA cup, that you couldn't see how a championship team couldn't win it.

The number of teams don't matter. If Barca is better than the premiership teams, then they'll win the CL, regardless of how many teams they have in there.

Henkie

03-06-2008, 06:44 PM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I see PSV winning that one.

Didn't I say so? 0-1, in the away-match and clearly the better team. Although, I have to say it has been a long time since I saw PSV play this well.

j.elohim

03-06-2008, 06:53 PM

Incidentally I HATE Farfan, he is the only play on Pro evo I can never stop from scoring against me, always after it ricochets off one of my players does he pop up and score. It is very annoying. Very annoying indeed. :squint:

But yes, it was a good goal by him and PSV looked good for the win, spurs weren't really all that clever.

S10000

03-06-2008, 07:56 PM

ESPN classic did air the Madrid Roma game, just delayed. Thats a basic cable channel its just up in the 100's somewhere, look for it. Sad that the 'top' team in spain can't advance further, again. and again. I want Barca to win but without Messi its gonna be tough, lets all watch Eto bring home the championship.

Edit: And i fucking love how they cut off the ending/highlights off the game to show Championship Bull Riding. What the fuck.

Shymega

03-06-2008, 11:58 PM

James Bond 007

03-07-2008, 02:52 PM

I really want to see Barca face Arsenal for obvious reasons(Henry).

And Schalke and Fener are no walk overs. You don't make it to the final 8 if you're not a solid team, especially after handling business on the road in the 2nd leg. I can see Liverpool getting popped by one of these teams. They always seem to play down to 2nd and 3rd tier teams.

Why can you see Liverpool getting "Popped" by one of those teams?

It still fucking amazes me that people who have some knowledge of football still think Liverpool are underdogs and not likely to succeed.
We are England's best chance of winning the Champions League and we have proven we are a match for anyone by beating the best teams over recent years.
In this competition we are one of the best teams.

How many so-called better teams do we have to send packing before people start to refer to the team we are playing (no matter who that is) as the underdog?

Im not arsed, people can give us no chance, thats how we prefer it anyway.

I would much prefer a big team in the next round ahead of Shalke or Fenerbache (provided we dont get thumped at the San Siro ofcourse), we always do better when nobody thinks we will win and lets face it, if Liverpool play Fener' or Shalke they will be clear favorites.

NOBODY wants to be drawn against Liverpool in the next round.

I honestly think an English team will win it this year provided they can avoid eachother in the quater finals.

To be honest I think Man U might do it, they are the best team in the world at the minute and by a long way.

Shymega

03-07-2008, 03:07 PM

Why can you see Liverpool getting "Popped" by one of those teams?

It still fucking amazes me that people who have some knowledge of football still think Liverpool are underdogs and not likely to succeed.
We are England's best chance of winning the Champions League and we have proven we are a match for anyone by beating the best teams over recent years.
In this competition we are one of the best teams.

How many so-called better teams do we have to send packing before people start to refer to the team we are playing (no matter who that is) as the underdog?

Im not arsed, people can give us no chance, thats how we prefer it anyway.

I would much prefer a big team in the next round ahead of Shalke or Fenerbache (provided we dont get thumped at the San Siro ofcourse), we always do better when nobody thinks we will win and lets face it, if Liverpool play Fener' or Shalke they will be clear favorites.

NOBODY wants to be drawn against Liverpool in the next round.

I honestly think an English team will win it this year provided they can avoid eachother in the quater finals.

To be honest I think Man U might do it, they are the best team in the world at the minute and by a long way.

That's the thing, Liverpool need to keep playing big clubs, cause they play up to their potential against them, and Liverpool are built for these big Euro night matches.

They almost got bit in the ass by Marseille cause they let them walk all over them at Anfield, but knew they needed to step up in the 2nd leg, and they did. I know it's different from the first group to the quarters, but you can't sit there and say you wouldn't be a bit more worried if they were paired up with Schalke or Fenerbahce, then say a Chelsea or Roma.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves. Let's see if they can play at the San Siro as if it was a 0-0 aggregate going in.

And i have all the respect in the world for Liverpool as a club and their fans. This has nothing to do with any of that.

4savo4

03-07-2008, 03:21 PM

NOBODY wants to be drawn against Liverpool in the next round.
I want you next round, rather you now than in the final if that may ever happen.

To be honest I think Man U might do it, they are the best team in the world at the minute and by a long way.

:D:D

I dunno the one thing about Fergie is, he is shit scared in Europe.

And i have all the respect in the world for Liverpool as a club and their fans. This has nothing to do with any of that.

Do i really need to wash your mouth out with soap? :bigwink:

Shymega

03-07-2008, 06:45 PM

^^ What kind of soap are we talking?

Uefa Cup

Totteham 0 PSV 1

Fiorentina 2 Everton 0

Bolton 1 Lisbon 1

Marseille 3 Zenit 1

Rangers 2 Bremen 0

Anderlecht 0 Munich 5

Benfica 1 Getafe 2

Leverkussen 1 Hamburg 0

Rado

03-08-2008, 03:16 PM

Man Utd 0 - 1 Porstmouth
Barnsley 1 - 0 Chelsea

So that's the top 4 out. Gotta love the FA Cup.

Quiet_Riot

03-08-2008, 03:17 PM

Makes me even more angry that City folded to Shef U. Would be a prime year for one of the non Sky Super Grand Slam Big 4 to get some credit.

modogthemonkey

03-08-2008, 05:00 PM

Go on...Barnsley

The last 10 mins was epic.

Makes me even more angry that City folded to Shef U.

Those dam balloons.

4savo4

03-08-2008, 05:24 PM

Those dam balloons.

What did the city fans do? :D

Quiet_Riot

03-08-2008, 06:14 PM

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson pointed an accusing finger at referee Martin Atkinson after the FA Cup quarter-final defeat by Portsmouth.

Ferguson felt United had a penalty turned down when Sylvain Distin blocked Cristiano Ronaldo, before Sulley Muntari's late winner from the spot.

Ferguson told MUTV: "It's absolutely ridiculous. I cannot explain it.

"Managers get sacked because of things like that and he's going to referee a game next week."

United had substitute keeper Tomasz Kuszczak, on at half-time for injured Edwin van Der Sar, sent off for a foul on Milan Baros that led to Muntari's 78th-minute spot-kick.

Ronaldo also revealed a lack of protection from officials had made him "scared" to play his natural game.

"Sometimes I say that this is the best league in the world, but sometimes they don't protect the skilful players," said the Portuguese winger.

"After what happened to the Arsenal player Eduardo da Silva, I am scared to do my skills.

The treatment Ronaldo is getting, I'm worried about him

"The referee against Portsmouth was unbelievable. In the first five minutes, there were three fouls and he took no action and then he failed to give a penalty. It's difficult to play like this.

"Sometimes they just protect the defenders and I am thinking about having to change my game because it is difficult to play like that.

"Diarra did not even try to play the ball when he tackled me and he wasn't even booked. It's a joke. So often, there were fouls and the referee did nothing."

Ferguson also directed his wrath at Keith Hackectt, thegeneral manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Board.

"Hackett has got a lot to answer for in this country," said the Scot. "He's not doing his job properly.

"He should be assessed like everyone else is assessed. I'm assessed as a manager, the players are assessed, referees are assessed.

"Martin Atkinson will referee next week, no problem, but his performance today should not be accepted in our game.

We came here the other week and got slaughtered but we've come back and turned it around

"I agree with Sepp Blatter, the standards in our game as opposed to the Continent - the tolerance level - is behind Europe. I think it's a big problem."

After seeing his side's hopes of repeating their 1999 Treble extinguished, Ferguson said: "The game was decided by the decision not to give us a penalty.

"They had great confidence to hang on knowing the referee was on their side.

"Lassana Diarra had eight or nine fouls in the match. It's incredible. I've got to agree with Arsene Wenger. Someone is going to get a serious injury in our game. He's had one himself with Eduardo.

"It's not a nice thing to talk about, but the treatment Ronaldo is getting I'm worried about him.

"Keith Hackett is in a nice, comfortable position and does nothing really. I don't think he makes a contribution to the referees' performances in our country.

"That should be addressed. He's not doing his job properly.

"That guy (Atkinson) will go and referee next week no problem. You see his favourites always get the games and that's disappointing."

Hilariously bitter...wait, isn't that what they call us?

4savo4

03-08-2008, 08:09 PM

Hilariously bitter...wait, isn't that what they call us?

I don't think he blames the Defeat on the referee, we had our chances. Can't believe that penalty which everyone in the world could see except that cunt.

We are bitter. Bitter that we will never be a massive club like you.

Quiet_Riot

03-09-2008, 08:14 AM

I don't think he blames the Defeat on the referee,

hahahahahahahahaha.

He does it every week. When was the last time Yoonited lost because the other team was better? It's always "the ref was rubbish/tranny doesn't get the protection he needs/shrek wasn't playing/we were upset about Munich/the fans weren't loud enough/we've just had 28 players playing 5 minutes in an international game/we play too many games because we're in the champions league."

FFS. Sad, twisted old whisky nose really needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

dazevas

03-09-2008, 08:38 AM

Rado

03-09-2008, 10:19 AM

Having just watched some highlights on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlfHZoGtxs), Tomasz Kuszczak was unlucky to be sent off. And that Ronaldo foul looked a penalty. Meh, it's gone now.

When was the last time Yoonited lost because the other team was better?

Having watched the highlights it seemed Man Utd were the better team, in most of the games they've lost they've been the better team, but they just waste chances. 2 cleared off the line yesterday for example.

But which manager doesn't moan after losing a match which should've been easy? Ferguson had a fine point about the penalty which was never given.

4savo4

03-09-2008, 10:20 AM

hahahahahahahahaha.

He does it every week. When was the last time Yoonited lost because the other team was better? It's always "the ref was rubbish/tranny doesn't get the protection he needs/shrek wasn't playing/we were upset about Munich/the fans weren't loud enough/we've just had 28 players playing 5 minutes in an international game/we play too many games because we're in the champions league."

FFS. Sad, twisted old whisky nose really needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

Did i say he didn't do it every week or are you reading what you want.

BTW that was that cunt querioz at the derby. Farther Jack had a point the ref was ludacris

Anyway, is city season over now they fuckin played us aren't you sick and tired of city only getting up for two games a year. Getting beat 2-0 off Reading i thought you were going to get Champions league or the Prem.

Quiet_Riot

03-09-2008, 10:27 AM

Having watched the highlights it seemed Man Utd were the better team, in most of the games they've lost they've been the better team, but they just waste chances. 2 cleared off the line yesterday for example.

But which manager doesn't moan after losing a match which should've been easy? Ferguson had a fine point about the penalty which was never given.

Right. But he never says "we didn't take our chances" he says "the ref should have given us a penalty because we're at OT."

And it wasn't a pen ffs, it's a physical game, the game is well on it's way to becoming non contact thanks to cunts like Tranny.

Rado

03-09-2008, 10:34 AM

Right. But he never says "we didn't take our chances" he says "the ref should have given us a penalty."

Of course that's what he's going to mention, it's an after-match interview. He probably does mention that Man Utd waste chances, but you pick out the bad ones he says. It's as if you purposely watch his after-match interviews when Man Utd lose :squint: . Of course managers say things these sort of things..

It was at least an in-direct free kick. But haven't seen one of those given in a long, long time. Ronaldo was about to absolutely fly past the defender so the defender had no choice but to block his path off. I'd imagine there are a lot of players who'd go down on that challenge, with running full pace.

4savo4

03-09-2008, 10:35 AM

Right. But he never says "we didn't take our chances" he says "the ref should have given us a penalty because we're at OT."

And it wasn't a pen ffs, it's a physical game, the game is well on it's way to becoming non contact thanks to cunts like Tranny.

Hahah i fucking love it when the only people in the world to say it's not a penalty is Shearer and you. Not Biased at all.

Quiet_Riot

03-09-2008, 10:39 AM

Hahah i fucking love it when the only people in the world to say it's not a penalty is Shearer and you. Not Biased at all.

Yeah cos Andy Gray and co aren't at all up the rags' arses.

It was at least an in-direct free kick.

Lol. It was in the box. You can only have an indirect free kick in the box for a back-pass.

Rado

03-09-2008, 10:49 AM

Hahah. Lolwhoops :redface:

Quiet_Riot

03-09-2008, 10:56 AM

Hahah. Lolwhoops :redface:

Typical United fan..doesn't even know the rules. ;)

:p

Shymega

03-09-2008, 12:08 PM

Barnsley....The best club in English football:dunce:

First time to the Semifinals since 1912. I'm hopping on this bandwagon.

Here's a picture the last time Barnsley went as far as a semi final. The final was Barnsley and West Brom. Interesting if it ended up that way again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Barnold.jpg

James Bond 007

03-09-2008, 03:00 PM

4savo4

03-09-2008, 03:01 PM

Lol. It was in the box. You can only have an indirect free kick in the box for a back-pass.

I know what he means, didn't it use to be a Indirect free kick for obstruction?

Quiet_Riot

03-09-2008, 06:26 PM

I know what he means, didn't it use to be a Indirect free kick for obstruction?

No. ten noes

AsHopeDies

03-10-2008, 10:30 AM

Nice draw with Wigan you pricks.

Seriously...I know the pitch was shit and all, but Arsenal did not look like they belong at the top of the table on Sunday. The last few weeks have really pissed me off. To draw with Birmingham, Aston Villa, and Wigan in three consecutive games in the Prem is horrible. They are just giving the thing away.

HighlanderDon

03-11-2008, 08:55 AM

If Arsenal keep this up Man Utd will walk the league, unfortunately. Though I guess I don't know which is worse for winning it

Shymega

03-11-2008, 10:50 AM

If Arsenal keep this up Man Utd will walk the league, unfortunately. Though I guess I don't know which is worse for winning it

Too bad Chelsea have both Utd and the Gunners at the Bridge still. I wouldn't count them out.

AsHopeDies

03-11-2008, 10:55 AM

We'll just call Barnsley and ask them how they beat them.

4savo4

03-12-2008, 10:37 AM

Serie A, Most overrated league in the world. It's utter shite and Ibrahimovic is shite. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Everton would walk that league. Derby would be mid fucking table.

AsHopeDies

03-12-2008, 10:39 AM

I know...like they could ever win the champions league.

Seriously though, the scandal really hurt them. I don't think they are a shit league though.

James Bond 007

03-12-2008, 11:23 AM

Yeah I dont believe what Im about to say but I agree with 4savo4 (I feel violated now).

Seria A has seriously gone down hill, there needs to be some serious thinking done by the Italian FA.
What was once a fantastic league is now an average league full of corruption.

When Liverpool were drawn against Internazionale everyone was saying it would be a dificult game and the Inter' would probably win over the 2 legs bcoz they are the best team in Italy and Liverpool are only the 4th best team in England but over the 2 legs I only remember Reina having to make a couple of good saves.

I know Inter' lost to Napoli at the weekend but before they had played Liverpool they were unbeaten for ages and had a fantastic home record... They play a good English side and get their arses handed to them.
Even the Inter' fans were applauding Liverpool last night, they just had to hold their hands up and say they were beaten by a better side.

Like 4savo4 said, ANY of the top 4 teams in England would win seria A comfortably.

I will be VERY surprised now if an English team doesnt win the european cup, lets face it ANY of the English sides could win it and Barcelona are capable of winning it but you can write off Fener', Shalke and Roma.

Rado

03-12-2008, 11:33 AM

I think I've said this before, but I find it frustrating to watch live Serie A football.

Usually on a Sunday on ch5, the shittest part of it is no matter what team it is, given the slightest opportunity they all shoot from 30 yards out. Every. Fucking. Time.

Watching the highlights is much better as there's probably one goal from 30 yards out, but that's the only one to go at least on target in about 3,000 shots from long range.

4 English teams left in the last 8 is awesome.

AsHopeDies

03-12-2008, 11:53 AM

but you can write off Fener', Shalke and Roma.

It's comments like this that tend to like to come back to bite you in the ass ;)

I think I've said this before, but I find it frustrating to watch live Serie A football.

Usually on a Sunday on ch5, the shittest part of it is no matter what team it is, given the slightest opportunity they all shoot from 30 yards out. Every. Fucking. Time.

Watching the highlights is much better as there's probably one goal from 30 yards out, but that's the only one to go at least on target in about 3,000 shots from long range.

4 English teams left in the last 8 is awesome.

I'm with you man. I watched the Juventus game last week because it was soccer and it was on TV so I had no choice really. I generally watch every game on fox soccer channel on the weekends. Anyway, for the most part the game was almost unwatchable. Foul, foul, foul, foul, argument, foul, argument, shot from 25 yards that sky rockets over, foul, etc. The second half was better, two really good goals by Juventus.

I want to fully agree with you guys, but last years Champion's League is still fresh in my mind.

4savo4

03-12-2008, 12:34 PM

I think I've said this before, but I find it frustrating to watch live Serie A football.

Usually on a Sunday on ch5

I only watch pre match, half time and full time for that fit bird! Gorgeous

Rado

03-12-2008, 01:12 PM

Hahah yeah. I don't really think she understands anything about football because there are awkward silences at times, but she is damn gorgeous.

Canty

03-12-2008, 01:29 PM

If Chelsea get drawn against Liverpool on Friday there will be tears.

4savo4

03-12-2008, 01:38 PM

If Chelsea get drawn against Liverpool on Friday there will be tears.

It would take a massive amount of money to make me watch that.

j.elohim

03-12-2008, 01:43 PM

Hahah yeah. I don't really think she understands anything about football because there are awkward silences at times, but she is damn gorgeous.

When she reads out the results at the end in Italian. <3

Canty

03-12-2008, 02:25 PM

It would take a massive amount of money to make me watch that.

If any English clubs do face each other I would love it to be Man U and Liverpool. Man U and Barca would also be a great tie.

I was looking on the CL 2007-08 page on Wikipedia before and Messi and Ronaldo have both scored 6 goals. Ronaldo has done this in 627 minutes wheras Messi has done it in 628 minutes Hot Sauce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League_2007-08#Top_goalscorers)

This evidence concludes that Messi is a load of shite. :bigwink:

4savo4

03-12-2008, 02:36 PM

If any English clubs do face each other I would love it to be Man U and Liverpool. Man U and Barca would also be a great tie.

I was looking on the CL 2007-08 page on Wikipedia before and Messi and Ronaldo have both scored 6 goals. Ronaldo has done this in 627 minutes wheras Messi has done it in 628 minutes Hot Sauce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League_2007-08#Top_goalscorers)

This evidence concludes that Messi is a load of shite. :bigwink:

Seriously i want Liverpool so bad it's unreal, i think this is the most i've wanted a team in a good few years. i'll be proper gutted if we don't get them.

That can't be right because Ronaldo is not a big game player where as Messi is :rolleyes:

EDIT: But having a quick peak on there board it seems like they don't want us.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=214627.0

Henkie

03-12-2008, 07:28 PM

What a match, what a match...

Ofcourse, the football wasn't too impressive tonight, especially from PSV's side, but it was exciting. But all in all, I'm going to try and forget the match and just remember the final result: PSV through, albeit on penalties.

Prince_Vegeta

03-13-2008, 11:14 AM

I'm off to the online bookies to place a tenner on Curbs being the next manager sacked.

The official West Ham site had a newsflash this morning saying he had left but removed it within minutes.

As I type Paddy Power have halted bets on his sacking!! Something is definately up, whether it be truth or a wild rumor causing some panic.

Proof Here (http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6002/westhampagesl8aj7.jpg)

:eek:

4savo4

03-13-2008, 11:53 AM

Nice one might put it on, wait they've stopped betting damn. When was that put on?

Prince_Vegeta

03-13-2008, 12:10 PM

Put it on as soon as I saw it mate.

The bookies are shutting shop on it all over. Either he really is off or theres a really dodgy betting racket going on right now. :lol:

Got odds of 9/1 btw so I'm set to win a ton if it happens.

4savo4

03-13-2008, 12:30 PM

Least West Ham will have won you something this season ;)

Prince_Vegeta

03-13-2008, 12:43 PM

Least West Ham will have won you something this season ;)

I do recall a certain 2-1 around xmas. :p

Anyways, looks like it was a hoax. Still, not all lost, Curbs could still be the next manger outed, we'll see.

4savo4

03-13-2008, 01:00 PM

I do recall a certain 2-1 around xmas. :p

Anyways, looks like it was a hoax. Still, not all lost, Curbs could still be the next manger outed, we'll see.

Should of sent you down last year :)

What is it with Curbs, would you be glad to see the back of him?

Prince_Vegeta

03-13-2008, 03:04 PM

Should of sent you down last year :)

What is it with Curbs, would you be glad to see the back of him?

You could have beat us and we'd still have stayed up. :bigwink:

To be honest, I'm not a fan of Curbishley. I hate his style of boring, grinding football. The man is so slow to make substitutions it is laughable, and often by the time he sends 'Super Spector' on in the 76th minute "to sure up the defense", the game is already lost.

Sounds cliched, but Curb's style is not the West Ham way and his negativity is a pain to watch at times. Most of the blame can be attributed to his insistance on the 4-5-1. Perfect if you're looking for a smash and grab away trip, but not at home against dirge like Fulham and Reading.

And now our defence has decided to fuck off ( +8 GD to -4 in 3 games ffs) he's finding himself losing support.

It all seems academic as apparently he is supposed to be paid off royally, for accomplishing what he was hired to do ( fend off the drop and consolidate), this summer ready for an ambitious new manager to step in and take us to the next level... apparently, if you believe this '5 year plan' the Icelanders have harped on about.

So in short, done what was asked of him, but Christ, its boring to watch.

Shymega

03-13-2008, 07:27 PM

Uefa Cup final 8

PSV
Bayern Munich
Sporting
Zenit
Rangers
Leverkusen
Getafe
Fiorentina

modogthemonkey

03-13-2008, 10:17 PM

The official West Ham site had a newsflash this morning saying he had left but removed it within minutes.

Proof Here (http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6002/westhampagesl8aj7.jpg)

:eek:

Someone dropped a bollock there. I'm surprised sky sports news wasn't on this like a rash today.

JerkyMyTurky

03-13-2008, 10:54 PM

Uefa Cup final 8

PSV
Bayern Munich
Sporting
Zenit
Rangers
Leverkusen
Getafe
Fiorentina

Bayern Munich are the clear favorites. For surprise teams that may knock them out, I'll go with Fiorentina, Zenit and PSV.

Shymega

03-13-2008, 11:11 PM

Bayern Munich are the clear favorites. For surprise teams that may knock them out, I'll go with Fiorentina, Zenit and PSV.

Getafe has looked like extremely good. PSV probably has the best shot after Bayern, though.

Isn't it the manager of Getafe that has been linked to take the possible spot of Grant at Chelsea? Or am i off chart, here?

modogthemonkey

03-14-2008, 09:26 AM

The quarter-finals draw for the UEFA Champions League:

Roma v Manchester United

Arsenal v Liverpool

Schalke v Barcelona

Fenerbahce v Chelsea

j.elohim

03-14-2008, 09:38 AM

1 Arsenal v Liverpool

Pick of the bunch. 3 meetings in such a short amount of time could mean some unpredictable football. Given we all expected an all English tie, this is probably the best that could have come out. There is a massive mountain for Liverpool to climb here, especially given you have to play them away from home twice that week. Should be interesting, the only way I can see Liverpool winning it is if they go for it at the Emirates. Waiting till Anfield I don't think will do the job because I just can't see Arsenal not scoring.

2 AS Roma v Man Utd

7-1 at OT would do for me :bigwink: Hopefully there are less shenanigans this time, I'm tired of people getting their faces broke in Italy.

3 Schalke 04 v FC Barcelona

I can only see barca for this one.

4 Fenerbahce v Chelsea No one wanted to go to Turkey, unfortunately for Chelsea, they drew the short straw.

Canty

03-14-2008, 09:43 AM

Oh fuck now we potentially have a Chelsea - Liverpool final.:wah:

I never thought I'd say this but GO ON ARSENAL. :redface:

/wrists

4savo4

03-14-2008, 09:53 AM

Oh fuck now we potentially have a Chelsea - Liverpool final.:wah:

I never thought I'd say this but GO ON ARSENAL. :redface:

/wrists

No don't worry it will be the norm boring semi final they can't play each other in the final.

But still

/wrists.

Canty

03-14-2008, 09:58 AM

Ah I didn't realise that team 1 played team 4.

Which would be worse a (hypothetical) final between them or a (unfortunately realistic) semi final which is obviously two matches and would come down to penalties.

Uefa Cup quarter-final draw:
1 Bayer Leverkusen v FC Zenit St Petersburg
2 Rangers v Sporting Lisbon
3 Bayern Munich v Getafe
4 Fiorentina v PSV

Uefa Cup semi-final draw:
Bayern Munich/Getafe v Leverkusen/Zenit
Rangers/Sporting v Fiorentina/PSV

Shymega

03-14-2008, 10:37 AM

The quarter-finals draw for the UEFA Champions League:

Roma v Manchester United

Arsenal v Liverpool

Schalke v Barcelona

Fenerbahce v Chelsea

Can't wait for that Arsenal-Liverpool showdown.

Bold advances.

4savo4

03-14-2008, 12:37 PM

If Fergie ever had a better chance at winning the champions league it is now.

Roma we really should beat these.

Barca- Not some untouchable team like the media love saying shite defence with out of form team and players IE: Henry. Messi Injured :) Schalke No chance

Chelsea/Arsenal /Liverpool We got the better of them all this season, Battered Chelsea, Outplayed Arsenal twice this season and beat the scousers.

FERGIE JUST FUCKING GO FOR IT!

Shymega

03-14-2008, 12:47 PM

Arsenal/Liverpool vs Chelsea/Fenerbahce

Roma/United vs Barca/Schalke

I know most know, but i'm just making it official.

Rado

03-14-2008, 01:06 PM

Also, I think this a great chance for United to take full advantage of their chance in the Premiership, beings Snarsenal have got Liverpool 3 times in such a close time.

Not bothered Man Utd have got Roma. Still, there's a chance of an all English final!

James Bond 007

03-14-2008, 01:20 PM

I just hope Rafa lets Arsenal win the league meeting by resting every single player, if I was him I would seriously field the youth/reserve team for the league game.

Im not too bothered about the draw, we had to play an English side eventually right?
I would have prefered Shalke (worst team ever to reach the QF?) but I'll take Arsenal.

Typical Man U, get a relatively easy draw again.... First the mighty Lyon and then Roma. Wow, you are realy having to work to win this trophy arent you. *sarcasm*

4savo4

03-14-2008, 01:30 PM

Yet you fail to pick out Chelsea who have had the easiest draws.

Quiet_Riot

03-14-2008, 02:07 PM

Hopefully there are less shenanigans this time, I'm tired of people getting their faces broke in Italy.

Well, that's what happens when morons run into perspex fences!

EDIT: Ooooh, look at this. I get called a bitter bertie when I say these draws are rigged.

http://forums.liverpoolecho.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33755&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Funny how 3 of the 4 ties are there EXACT, over an hour before the draw.

Canty

03-14-2008, 03:09 PM

http://forums.liverpoolecho.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33755&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Funny how 3 of the 4 ties are there EXACT, over an hour before the draw.

Well I'd place a bet on them getting the fourth one right as well.

Very interesting though.

4savo4

03-14-2008, 03:16 PM

Well, that's what happens when morons run into perspex fences!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

EDIT: Ooooh, look at this. I get called a bitter bertie when I say these draws are rigged.

http://forums.liverpoolecho.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33755&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Funny how 3 of the 4 ties are there EXACT, over an hour before the draw.

I saw these about 20 minutes after the draw, i too think it's rigged.

Shymega

03-14-2008, 03:34 PM

Cold ball vs room temperature ball.:squint:

Shymega

03-14-2008, 03:40 PM

Here's the draw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GnCeWYhRUFE

Shymega

03-14-2008, 06:47 PM

Uefa pretty much laughs at fixed rumors.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_3303099,00.html

JerkyMyTurky

03-14-2008, 07:11 PM

4 Fenerbahce v Chelsea No one wanted to go to Turkey, unfortunately for Chelsea, they drew the short straw.

I didn't want to see them get drawn with any English team, but if it had to be one, it would be Chelsea. Fenerbahce are 4-0 (9 goals scored, 3 allowed) in Turkey so far in Champion's League play. I think they have a very good chance to advance.

Here are some clips of Fenerbahce fans...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp64eM3HqZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSxsLnaf5Q

Besiktas (Istanbul rivals) are considered to have the most diehard fans and offer the best fan support, with their many chants and slogans. Here are clips of their fans during the victory of Liverlpool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVElz5nVas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJPYnI75-M

It's going to be intense showing without a doubt. I got Roma shocking Manchester United, Liverpool being ousted by Arsenal and Barcelona over Schalke.

Roma > Manchester United
Fenerbahce > Chelsea
Arsenal > Liverpool
Barcelona > Schalke

Shymega

03-14-2008, 08:22 PM

I didn't want to see them get drawn with any English team, but if it had to be one, it would be Chelsea. Fenerbahce are 4-0 (9 goals scored, 3 allowed) in Turkey so far in Champion's League play. I think they have a very good chance to advance.

Here are some clips of Fenerbahce fans...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp64eM3HqZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSxsLnaf5Q

Besiktas (Istanbul rivals) are considered to have the most diehard fans and offer the best fan support, with their many chants and slogans. Here are clips of their fans during the victory of Liverlpool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVElz5nVas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJPYnI75-M

It's going to be intense showing without a doubt. I got Roma shocking Manchester United, Liverpool being ousted by Arsenal and Barcelona over Schalke.

Roma > Manchester United
Fenerbahce > Chelsea
Arsenal > Liverpool
Barcelona > Schalke

Yeah man, Turkish fans are insane. Them and Roma host the best atmospheres with who is left. But there is just something about Anfield when they start singing that just sounds great, especially on TV. It's just one big echo. Every stadium is intense, some are just on another level.

Roma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgniqIjJL3Q

I love this Anfield video. It's gonna be a sad day when they move to Stanley Park, even though the stadium is built to echo sound and will seat 20,000 more. Nothing will ever sound like Anfield IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nfFi-_Hb2A&feature=related

4savo4

03-14-2008, 08:29 PM

I love this Anfield video. It's gonna be a sad day when they move to Stanley Park, even though the stadium is built to echo sound and will seat 20,000 more. Nothing will ever sound like Anfield IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nfFi-_Hb2A&feature=related

:confused: Most over-rated atmosphere in Europe. They go on how they have a great atmopshere because they sing you never walk alone before a game. They do have a good atmosphere on european nights that's about it.

Quiet_Riot

03-14-2008, 08:29 PM

Roma > Manchester United

Oh I hope so. I hope they turn up with their "god-given right to win things cos of Munich" attitude and get pasted. failing that, I hope they get stuffed by Arsenal or Chelsea in the final.

4savo4

03-14-2008, 08:32 PM

Oh I hope so. I hope they turn up with their "god-given right to win things cos of Munich" attitude and get pasted. failing that, I hope they get stuffed by Arsenal or Chelsea in the final.

Making shit up again are we?

Quiet_Riot

03-14-2008, 08:37 PM

Making shit up again are we?

Yeah, that must be it.

Shymega

03-14-2008, 11:33 PM

:confused: Most over-rated atmosphere in Europe. They go on how they have a great atmopshere because they sing you never walk alone before a game. They do have a good atmosphere on european nights that's about it.

Every venue is that way. If you're playing a bum team, the atmosphere will only be so-so, but if you're playing a big team or in a big game, the atmosphere will be great.

The most consistent atmospheres come out of Argentina and Brazil or South America in general.. Boca, River, Flamengo ect..Plus they do the human avalanche, the craziest fanatical thing in sports.
Love it. probably wouldn't have the balls to jump in it, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07bbPk_dnfQ&eurl=http://www.footytube.com/category/videos/copa-libertadores-2008/

James Bond 007

03-15-2008, 03:54 AM

:confused: Most over-rated atmosphere in Europe. They go on how they have a great atmopshere because they sing you never walk alone before a game. They do have a good atmosphere on european nights that's about it.

Typical rag statement.

Have you ever been to Anfield???

I have been countless times and yes against lesser oposition it is far from rocking in Anfield but when bigger teams come to play the fans do their bit by acting as a 12th man to try and give the team a little extra push.

Old Toilet seats not far off 80,000 and it is probably one of the worst atmospheres in the Premiership, even that twat with the alcahol ravaged face has had a pop at you "Supporters" this season.

I have said it before and I'll say it again... The best traveling fans to visit Anfield are Portsmouth, Southampton, City and West Ham (probably in that order).
The quietest fans traveling to Anfield have been Chelscum and Manure which I was very surprised at, the only time you heard them was when they scored... Against the run of play.

4savo4

03-15-2008, 05:26 AM

Typical rag statement.

Have you ever been to Anfield???

I have been countless times and yes against lesser oposition it is far from rocking in Anfield but when bigger teams come to play the fans do their bit by acting as a 12th man to try and give the team a little extra push.

Old Toilet seats not far off 80,000 and it is probably one of the worst atmospheres in the Premiership, even that twat with the alcahol ravaged face has had a pop at you "Supporters" this season.

I have said it before and I'll say it again... The best traveling fans to visit Anfield are Portsmouth, Southampton, City and West Ham (probably in that order).
The quietest fans traveling to Anfield have been Chelscum and Manure which I was very surprised at, the only time you heard them was when they scored... Against the run of play.

Yes i have.

That's what i'm saying im sick of fuck all pundits buliding up anfields atmopsphere when most of the time it is just a normal crowd proper does my head in.

Old Trafford is shit i've said this countless times, full of jcls an day trippers and may never get back to what it once was. BUT on a european night can be good.

Pompey were shit when they came to us this in the cup. dunno why.

Every venue is that way. If you're playing a bum team, the atmosphere will only be so-so, but if you're playing a big team or in a big game, the atmosphere will be great.

The most consistent atmospheres come out of Argentina and Brazil or South America in general.. Boca, River, Flamengo ect..Plus they do the human avalanche, the craziest fanatical thing in sports.
Love it. probably wouldn't have the balls to jump in it, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07bbPk_dnfQ&eurl=http://www.footytube.com/category/videos/copa-libertadores-2008/

Wish we had a chant like this.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gX-HP7V4aaw&feature=related

Quiet_Riot

03-15-2008, 10:05 AM

Pompey were shit when they came to us this in the cup. dunno why.

Say even more for your lot then that the only chants heard were Play Up Pompey and Blue Army.

Shymega

03-15-2008, 11:01 AM

Yes i have.

That's what i'm saying im sick of fuck all pundits buliding up anfields atmopsphere when most of the time it is just a normal crowd proper does my head in.

Old Trafford is shit i've said this countless times, full of jcls an day trippers and may never get back to what it once was. BUT on a european night can be good.

Pompey were shit when they came to us this in the cup. dunno why.

Wish we had a chant like this.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gX-HP7V4aaw&feature=related

In South America, the culture is so preserved it's like they are still living in the past. Fans in the 30's-40's are the same as the turn of the century. In England, things are getting so advanced that the culture is becoming lost. That's the problem with the U.S, people are getting more fair weathered and less serious about the sport because it's being handed to them, people are just getting lazier about it.
Comparing Yankees fans from the 50's to now is just stupid, it's not even close. Same goes with United fans and most others.

Shymega

03-17-2008, 01:41 PM

The last time Newcastle won was December 15th(3+ months ago). They've only drawn twice since then. They are only 3 points above the relegation zone...craziness

Now watch them win tonight.

4savo4

03-17-2008, 02:51 PM

What time they kick off? Might stream it

PMUN NY

03-19-2008, 05:50 PM

Two more goals for Ronaldo and its only halftime!!

Rado

03-19-2008, 06:50 PM

Man Utd 2 - 0 Bolton

2 goals from Ronaldo, including a free kick special. But it was a far from comfortable victory. Top of the table, clear by 3 points, all is good.

Tottenham 4 - 4 Chelsea

Must see the highlights of this game!

JerkyMyTurky

03-19-2008, 06:51 PM

Tottenham looks like they have just screwed Chelsea out of 2 points with that amazing comeback. Tottenham are definitely a scoring machine, horrible defense though. They just nearly stole the game completely, missed a one on one opportunity, with the goalie making an unbelievable kick save.

AsHopeDies

03-20-2008, 11:50 AM

So the US will play England at Wembley in May. That's pretty cool. Even though it's a friendly, should still be a fun game to watch.

James Bond 007

03-20-2008, 12:51 PM

So the US will play England at Wembley in May. That's pretty cool. Even though it's a friendly, should still be a fun game to watch.

Yeah, would be nice if England fielded a strong team.

The last time they played about 3 or 4 years ago in America it was a farce. To call them the England B team would have been stretching it, it was more like a C-strength team.

Still won though 2-0 (was it?) with the awesome talent that is Kieron Richardson (ahahahahaaa) scoring.

Quiet_Riot

03-20-2008, 02:01 PM

So very bored of hearing about the Tranny show today. They don't mention how he turns on the single-trick pony malarkey against relegation-fodder Bullton and Derby, but in a big game, he's anonymous.

Can't remember seeing him against Liverpool, Chelsea or the Arse (I know, I know "he scored" but did fuck all else) this season...or last for that matter.

He was suspended against City at home, but I can't even remember if he was playing when we beat them at Cold Trafford.

AsHopeDies

03-20-2008, 02:08 PM

Yeah, would be nice if England fielded a strong team.

The last time they played about 3 or 4 years ago in America it was a farce. To call them the England B team would have been stretching it, it was more like a C-strength team.

Still won though 2-0 (was it?) with the awesome talent that is Kieron Richardson (ahahahahaaa) scoring.

Yeah, the article said they played in 04 with England winning 2-0. It'll be a good game if both teams brings most or all of their main roster.

The Messiah

03-20-2008, 02:08 PM

So very bored of hearing about the Tranny show today. They don't mention how he turns on the single-trick pony malarkey against relegation-fodder Bullton and Derby, but in a big game, he's anonymous.

Can't remember seeing him against Liverpool, Chelsea or the Arse (I know, I know "he scored" but did fuck all else) this season...or last for that matter.

He was suspended against City at home, but I can't even remember if he was playing when we beat them at Cold Trafford.

I'm sure he'll be upset with your views as he picks up his World & European Player of the year award.

Rado

03-20-2008, 02:18 PM

So very bored of hearing about the Tranny show today.

It's the media's choice to pick something out of the game, and in fairness, last nights game was a poor match and the only thing to happen was Ronaldo getting 2 goals. One of which was another free kick special.

They don't mention how he turns on the single-trick pony malarkey against relegation-fodder Bullton and Derby, but in a big game, he's anonymous.

That's the second/third time you've mentioned that now. He's not "anonymous" in a big game, it's the fact that he's usually got 2 players marking him because he is that big of a threat, sp he can't do as much as he can in other fixtures, but here's why; the bigger teams can cope with putting 2 men on him, but the lower positioned teams can't. Thus giving him an opportunity to shine when he's only being marked by 1 man.

Can't remember seeing him against Liverpool, Chelsea or the Arse (I know, I know "he scored" but did fuck all else) this season...or last for that matter.

He was there alright.

And The Messiah, I lub u <3 : - P

Quiet_Riot

03-20-2008, 02:42 PM

I'm sure he'll be upset with your views as he picks up his World & European Player of the year award.

Consistently chosen by no-mark journalists...really precious. :err:

One of which was another free kick special.

lolol. I'd love to see his free kicks taken/on target/scored stats, his "specials" are few and far between.

it's the fact that he's usually got 2 players marking him because he is that big of a threat, sp he can't do as much as he can in other fixtures, but here's why; the bigger teams can cope with putting 2 men on him, but the lower positioned teams can't. Thus giving him an opportunity to shine when he's only being marked by 1 man.

VERY FEW teams use man marking anymore, it's just not effective, besides, if there are so many "world class" players in the yoonited team, why would they risk doubling up on one player? Foolhardy if you ask me.

The Messiah

03-20-2008, 07:20 PM

Consistently chosen by no-mark journalists...really precious. :err:

I think you'll find fellow professionals & managers have a big say in it too. It wouldn't surprise me if 90% of the Manchester City team voted for him to get the PFA players player of the year.

Shymega

03-20-2008, 09:34 PM

Here are the Tottenham-Chelsea highlights for whoever was asking.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zugGTODWf0Y

If Spurs were better this year, this would of been that much better, but still a great game. Especially for those above Chelsea.

4savo4

03-21-2008, 02:47 PM

So very bored of hearing about the Tranny show today. They don't mention how he turns on the single-trick pony malarkey against relegation-fodder Bullton and Derby, but in a big game, he's anonymous.

Yeah they really should be mentioning Elano more because he hasn't been shit since October.

Can't remember seeing him against Liverpool, Chelsea or the Arse (I know, I know "he scored" but did fuck all else) this season...or last for that matter.
Against Chelsea, he had a good game, Arsenal He scored and got a assist but you're right he was annoymous even though he had a part to play in both our goals. Liverpool your right there he was missing.

He was suspended against City at home, but I can't even remember if he was playing when we beat them at Cold Trafford.

Name one player who played decent for us.

What about Kaka who doesn't seem to do it agaisn't the lesser teams? NO ONE EVER DARES QUESTION KAKA.

Quiet_Riot

03-21-2008, 02:56 PM

Yeah they really should be mentioning Elano more because he hasn't been shit since October.

Yep...cos in my post I did actually say that Elano has been shit hot all season..:dunce:

4savo4

03-21-2008, 03:23 PM

Yep...cos in my post I did actually say that Elano has been shit hot all season..:dunce:

Well most of you do.

Nice to see bitter jealously at it's best though about Ronaldo.

Quiet_Riot

03-21-2008, 03:36 PM

Well most of you do.

:lmao:

Hello Heidi Pickup.

4savo4

03-21-2008, 03:58 PM

It's fucking true when it obvious that petrov is a far better player.

Quiet_Riot

03-21-2008, 04:04 PM

It's fucking true when it obvious that petrov is a far better player.

So, no idea who Heidi is then?
Further proof, if it were needed, how little you know about the game.

Yes Petrov has been better and more consistent, well done.

4savo4

03-21-2008, 04:12 PM

Yeah who said something about the fans saying they didn't want ericsson? only thing i know of

You're right i know nothing. How stupid of me to question you.

Rado

03-23-2008, 12:23 PM

Man Utd 3 - 0 Liverpool
Brown, Ronaldo, Nani

Man Utd had the game in total control throughout the whole match, could've been more though.

4savo4

03-23-2008, 01:50 PM

Man Utd 3 - 0 Liverpool
Brown, Ronaldo, Nani

Man Utd had the game in total control throughout the whole match, could've been more though.

You're lying because Ronaldo can't do it it in 'big games' :rolleyes:

Quiet_Riot

03-23-2008, 04:26 PM

Noticed the scummy scum fans with their "96 was not enough" banner. Fucking hypocritical scumbags.

4savo4

03-23-2008, 04:47 PM

Say's the guy who not long ago had who's that lyin on the runway in his sig.
You can't say fuck all, all clubs have pricks.

Quiet_Riot

03-23-2008, 04:57 PM

Say's the guy who not long ago had who's that lyin on the runway in his sig.
You can't say fuck all, all clubs have pricks.

No I didn't, I don't do Munich songs. Yes, all clubs have pricks. ManYoo just have more than their quota. :lol:

The Messiah

03-23-2008, 06:14 PM

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/71/80249034zv5.jpg

Shymega

03-23-2008, 06:58 PM

Big derby next week..Liverpool-Everton for control of the 4th spot.

4savo4

03-24-2008, 09:39 AM

Shit i forgot to post what i thought about the game.

I was quietly confident that we would beat them, i knew aslong we played well we would beat them it wouldn't matter if liverpool played well also.

Reading some liverpool message boards which i do for a laugh before a game nearly all off them were convinced it was going to be a liverpool win. Which i found astounding.

This game shows why liverpool are really far off from even getting near the championship.

IN RAFA WE TRUST!!!

James Bond 007

03-25-2008, 07:46 AM

First off 4savo4 and Rado, do you realy believe United controlled the game bcoz they were so much better than Liverpool or will you admit that the game was ruined by the referee and had Mascherano (probably our best player all season) not been sent off in the harshest way possible it would have been a great game that could have gone either way????

The 3-0 scoreline isnt a true reflection of the game, even with 10 men you werent 3 goals better than us.
At the end of the day yes you won but its nothing to get too excited about.... You beat us by default.

Fergie after the game was hilarious, he was saying his team were great and showed maturaty and yadda yadda yadda.... No mention of, yeah, we were greatly helped by a poor decision by the referee but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Anyone would think they had just won a difficult 11 vs 11 fair game of football.

The same happened about 4 years ago, our captain Hyypia was sent off 60 seconds into the game and Van Nistelrooy scored the penalty, it finished 4-0 and all the United fans were making out like they had just moped the floor with Liverpool.
If the game was at Anfield and Keane had been sent off 60 seconds in and we were 1-0 up too I would be confident of hitting 5 or 6.

My point? Have your moment, be gratefull for the 3 points but dont start jive-talking about what a great victory it was, the only reason you won/won comfortably was that cunt of a ref trying to get his name in the papers.
Cashley Cole almost breaks someone's legs last week and gets a booking, Mascherano asks the ref whats going on and bcoz its at Old Toilet thats worthy of being sent from the field in such a massive game if football.

Oh and on the "96 Wasn't enough" banner, well I wouldnt expect anything less to be honest, United like to play the "Everyone is against us card" and like to stir shit about how Liverpool and Manchester City say horrible things about them but United's shit-bag fans are probably the worst of the lot.

4savo4

03-25-2008, 08:01 AM

First off 4savo4 and Rado, do you realy believe United controlled the game bcoz they were so much better than Liverpool or will you admit that the game was ruined by the referee and had Mascherano (probably our best player all season) not been sent off in the harshest way possible it would have been a great game that could have gone either way????

The 3-0 scoreline isnt a true reflection of the game, even with 10 men you werent 3 goals better than us.
At the end of the day yes you won but its nothing to get too excited about.... You beat us by default.

No, we had the better of you all the way through the game, even before the sending off we had the chances Rooney had a couple Ronaldo had one. The sending off just made sure. I think Gerrard had a deflected shot, that was about it.

Fergie after the game was hilarious, he was saying his team were great and showed maturaty and yadda yadda yadda.... No mention of, yeah, we were greatly helped by a poor decision by the referee but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Anyone would think they had just won a difficult 11 vs 11 fair game of football.

The same happened about 4 years ago, our captain Hyypia was sent off 60 seconds into the game and Van Nistelrooy scored the penalty, it finished 4-0 and all the United fans were making out like they had just moped the floor with Liverpool.
If the game was at Anfield and Keane had been sent off 60 seconds in and we were 1-0 up too I would be confident of hitting 5 or 6.

My point? Have your moment, be gratefull for the 3 points but dont start jive-talking about what a great victory it was, the only reason you won/won comfortably was that cunt of a ref trying to get his name in the papers.
Cashley Cole almost breaks someone's legs last week and gets a booking, Mascherano asks the ref whats going on and bcoz its at Old Toilet thats worthy of being sent from the field in such a massive game if football.

Hmmm you seem not to remember last year when paul Scholes got sent off and We won 1-0 and a couple of years back when Wes brown got sent off and we won 1-0. At the game i myself thought it was Ashley cole but i watched match of the day and he was having a go at the ref ages before then and it was the right decision.

Oh and on the "96 Wasn't enough" banner, well I wouldnt expect anything less to be honest, United like to play the "Everyone is against us card" and like to stir shit about how Liverpool and Manchester City say horrible things about them but United's shit-bag fans are probably the worst of the lot.

Yeah and not to mention the always look out on the runway for ice, and Who's that dying on the runway sung by them that day lets not mention that. Also the Munich 58 banner. Everyone is as bad as each other but as usual Man united are the worse.

Henkie

03-25-2008, 08:24 AM

Ah, blaiming the referee, that takes me back...

In a decent team, a three goal difference is not explained by one red card around half-time. I didn't actually watch the match (they don't show full matches of anything anymore, especially if there's no Dutch team involved), but a team with one man less that is not already behind (and if they are, the red card usually isn't the reason they lost) can put up a decent defence and try to hold out for a draw. Falling one goal short can be because of the card, 2 goals short the card and a whole lot of bad luck, but three goals is just plain unlikely. And ofcourse it might have been a show of effeciency, rather than brute force and there might have been luck involved, but that is rather reflected because of the 3 goal margin than because Man won.

James Bond 007

03-25-2008, 08:58 AM

The first half was even no matter what 4savo4 says, both teams were rubbish and the break through came from poor defending by Liverpool which allowed the ball to hit Wes Brown on the back and drop into the goal.

The sending off realy did affect the outcome of the game. It amazes me that United fans believe they controlled the game, both teams were equal until the sending off.
After the second went in Liverpool were shell-shocked and were still wondering what had happend when Tito Jackson turned inside and scored a quick third.... It was a good finish but by this point we had given up.
Im honestly surprised it didnt finish 4 or 5 nil

My point is if Manure had beaten 11 men comfortably 3-0 then Id hold my hands up and say fair enough but the way this is being banged on about like one of United's great victories I find astonishing.

Henkie I know what you are saying about 1 man going off doesnt "USUALLY" affect the game but you have to understand there arent many rivalries in world football bigger than the rivalry between Liverpool and Man U and when 1 of your star players is sent off for asking the referee a question all but ending the game as a contest then it has a massive affect on the game.

You cant chase a referee ranting and screaming at him but Mascherano calmly walked over to the ref and asked a question, he wasnt agressive or trying to intimidate him in any way. This is football not a facist regime, things have gone to pot if a player gets booked for nearly ending a players career one week and the week after in such an important game another player is sent off for talking to the ref.
If he had been sent off for a two-footed lunge it might have been different but the way he was sent off was disgraceful and the Liverpool players fell apart and lost all their shape and discipline bcoz they were angry and felt robbed.

4savo4

03-25-2008, 09:24 AM

After the second went in Liverpool were shell-shocked and were still wondering what had happend when Tito Jackson turned inside and scored a quick third.... It was a good finish but by this point we had given up.
Im honestly surprised it didnt finish 4 or 5 nil

Fuck off he is at least MJ in Thriller :D

You cant chase a referee ranting and screaming at him but Mascherano calmly walked over to the ref and asked a question, he wasnt agressive or trying to intimidate him in any way. This is football not a facist regime, things have gone to pot if a player gets booked for nearly ending a players career one week and the week after in such an important game another player is sent off for talking to the ref.
If he had been sent off for a two-footed lunge it might have been different but the way he was sent off was disgraceful and the Liverpool players fell apart and lost all their shape and discipline bcoz they were angry and felt robbed.

He didn't get sent off for that. It was a bulid up from what went on before, Telling the ref to fuck off over and over again, arguing every decision for little fouls that there's no point. It's his own fault and there is no point sticking up for him, i'd be pretty disapointed in him.

AsHopeDies

03-25-2008, 11:33 AM

You cant chase a referee ranting and screaming at him but Mascherano calmly walked over to the ref and asked a question, he wasnt agressive or trying to intimidate him in any way. This is football not a facist regime, things have gone to pot if a player gets booked for nearly ending a players career one week and the week after in such an important game another player is sent off for talking to the ref.
If he had been sent off for a two-footed lunge it might have been different but the way he was sent off was disgraceful and the Liverpool players fell apart and lost all their shape and discipline bcoz they were angry and felt robbed.

He deserved to be sent off, he was being a complete prick. He wouldn't have gotten the first yellow if he wouldn't have told the ref to "fuck off" about 15 times for calling a foul on him. And when Torres got booked, Mascherano took his chance and did what you said. He ran a decent length, ran through one of his own players who was trying to restrain him, and got into the ref again, for no reason. Calmly walked? Only a Liverpool fan would say that. Not to mention he was in the refs ear all day and wasn't wearing the captain's armband.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YQSmkB5XWg

Calmly walked...that's good :lmao:

Rado

03-25-2008, 12:01 PM

The first half was even no matter what 4savo4 says, both teams were rubbish and the break through came from poor defending by Liverpool which allowed the ball to hit Wes Brown on the back and drop into the goal.

That much is true. Dunno why you're needing to say it...........

The sending off realy did affect the outcome of the game. It amazes me that United fans believe they controlled the game, both teams were equal until the sending off.

No, they were in total control, before and after the sending off.

After the second went in Liverpool were shell-shocked and were still wondering what had happend when Tito Jackson turned inside and scored a quick third....

Shellshocked :lmao: It's that shite consistency coming from Liverpool that'll never see them winning a Premier League title.

My point is if Manure had beaten 11 men comfortably 3-0 then Id hold my hands up and say fair enough but the way this is being banged on about like one of United's great victories I find astonishing.

I never said it was a great victory, other than I was fucking dead happy with the result.

but Mascherano calmly walked over to the ref and asked a question
He sure did, but after how many times the ref told him to go away and be quiet? Because Mascherano kept verbally abusing him... I think MOTD2 counted it as 6 times, which is a joke. Where was Stevie G to stop him aswell? Nice captaincy. Mascherano is a prat and deserved everything and was eventually going to get sent off. If he was such a good player he'd known already that the ref was handing out cards for backtalking (Like he did to Torres about 20 seconds before Mascherano got the red card) then he'd have kept his mouth shut. And how many Liverpool players protested his sending off ? About 2. They knew he'd gone too far themselves.

Also worth noting that there very well could've been a penalty early on and Carragher sent off for his shit, last ditch foul on Rooney in the box.

4savo4

03-25-2008, 12:03 PM

I do think it's a shame Gerrard was rested i really think he could of made the difference :bigwink:

Quiet_Riot

03-25-2008, 03:28 PM

Tbh, you guys have clearly fallen into the "MOTD is gospel" trap.

They never showed Anderson backchatting the ref, which, if Torres got booked for his first offence, clearly should be a card for that wannabe pretty boy. They didn't show Tranny's dive towards the end, understandable as he did very little other than a header, but the way he was looking at the ref BEFORE he even hit the floor is just laughable.

I'm not disputing the result, or Javi's red, but the way the BBC skew things so the pundits can wank over United is so blatant it's embarrasing. Hansen had a quick jab, saying that Ronaldo was poor, before someone obviously told him to STFU, and he said how great his amazing super duper shot over the bar was.

Rado

03-25-2008, 03:45 PM

Tbh, you guys have clearly fallen into the "MOTD is gospel" trap.

Where? :lol: It's by far the best football program out there, because of how it's produced/directed/presented and the presenters, and I don't mean biased for Man Utd. (Cos they are!!! LOL!!) I only mentioned MOTD2 as a point of showing JB007 how many times Mascherano abused the referee. If I mentioned Sky Sports News, you wouldn't have brung it up, or would that be us falling into the "SSN is gospel" trap? :squint:

They never showed Anderson backchatting the ref, which, if Torres got booked for his first offence, clearly should be a card for that wannabe pretty boy. They didn't show Tranny's dive towards the end,

I honestly don't remember Ronaldo diving. It's up to the men behind MOTD to see what was conclusive into the match for it to go on air. To be fair, near the end it was 3-0 so obviosly a single "dive" isn't going to be worth showing.

understandable as he did very little other than a header.

He did a fair bit actually, just because he didn't take it round loads of players, doing dummies, doesn't mean he had a bad game.

I'm not disputing the result, or Javi's red, but the way the BBC skew things so the pundits can wank over United is so blatant it's embarrasing.

Konspirasee.

Hansen had a quick jab, saying that Ronaldo was poor, before someone obviously told him to STFU,.

So not everybody in the world sucks Ronaldo's cock then? :eek:

Also, with the "Someone told him to stfu", it's obviously a statement of opinion, look on any sports channel or program, not everyone agrees with each other. Or maybe listen to Jamie Flaptrap, he provides entertainment when he gets stroppy with other pundits.

Quiet_Riot

03-25-2008, 03:50 PM

Where? :lol: It's by far the best football program out there, because of how it's produced/directed/presented and the presenters, and I don't mean biased for Man Utd. (Cos they are!!! LOL!!) I only mentioned MOTD2 as a point of showing JB007 how many times Mascherano abused the referee. If I mentioned Sky Sports News, you wouldn't have brung it up, or would that be us falling into the "SSN is gospel" trap? :squint:

Exactly, if someone ONLY watched MOTD2 for the match, they'd think that ONLY Torres and Masch spoke to the ref. When it's such a hot topic, they should be much more objective about it, but weren't.
It was obvious, IMHO, that someone was going to be sent off for dissent this week, after the Ashley Cole thing, and oh look....