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xXSpawnXx
02-25-2008, 07:16 PM
School removes CCTV cameras from children's toilets after furious protest from parents

A school has been forced to remove CCTV cameras they installed in the students' toilets after furious protests from pupils and parents.

Hundreds of outraged students petitioned against the cameras after they spotted them in the toilets and even refused to use the loos all day so they were not caught on CCTV.

Other children were kept at home by their families rather than expose themselves to the "gross invasion of privacy".

The cameras were installed at Lipson Community College in Plymouth, Devon, which has 1,400 pupils.

Concerns were first raised when pupils returned from the week-long break on Tuesday and spotted the cameras.

Principal Steve Baker said contractors fitted them on the orders of another staff member, who did not have the measure approved by him or school governors.

Mr Baker added that the system had now been disabled and would be removed as soon as possible.

He said: "Someone made an error. They had no authorisation from me or from the governors to install these cameras.

"There was quite rightly a perception that there could be an invasion of privacy, even though the cameras were not aimed at the cubicles.

"The students have used their voice effectively and maturely. We are grateful to the students who raised it with us in a mature way and to their parents."

He added that there was no particular problem with toilet bullying or vandalism that would have required surveillance.

"The students were telling us that if there had been a problem they could have understood it," he said.

He said that no one would be disciplined over the error. "It's a learning situation, not a disciplinary one."

Earlier, a 15-year-old boy, who did not wish to be named, said the cameras were trained on the hand basins.

He said: "They are the round ones that can move. I'm not very happy about it. It feels a bit strange when you are going to the loo."

Sean Webb, who has three children at the school, kept his two sons out of school the day after they were discovered.

He said: "They came home from school on Tuesday on edge. I got it out of them that they had 'held themselves in' all day because of the cameras."

"My 16-year-old daughter insisted on going to school, but said she would hold herself in all day."

Lynda McTier, the assistant principal, denied that there had been any protests at the school.

She said the cameras were installed as part of a surveillance programme across the school.

"We have always had a strong reputation for encouraging students to use their voice in helping to co-ordinate the running of the college."

"We work very closely to resolve any problems people may have. We have met with students to discuss their concerns and hear their views on the CCTV system the college is developing."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=517250&in_page_id=1770

rand0m
02-25-2008, 07:44 PM
I they where just facing the sinks, I highly doubt they where aimed at the little boys willies ...

Once again we probably won't find out since the witch burners are probably already grabbing their pitchforks and lighting their torches ...

j.elohim
02-25-2008, 07:46 PM
What an idiot, didn't ask the head, didn't ask the governors, who the fuck was this staff member who thought they had the power to get this done? MAAAAAAAAAAAADNESS

Capt_Canada
02-25-2008, 08:02 PM
Another concern is that the person who did this is a teacher....I wouldn't trust my kids education to a person who is not even smart enough to not realize that putting cameras in washrooms is a bad idea.

Sketcher
02-25-2008, 08:45 PM
When I first read the title, I thought they had actually put cameras in the toilet bowls.:lol:

Spike Lee
02-25-2008, 09:29 PM
I wish we had a feature like where if enough people voted, they would label an article as inaccurate.

Awesome-o
02-25-2008, 10:47 PM
What an idiot, didn't ask the head, didn't ask the governors, who the fuck was this staff member who thought they had the power to get this done? MAAAAAAAAAAAADNESS

No I say!




















THIS IS SPARTAAA!

slapnpopbass
02-25-2008, 10:56 PM
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Hundreds of outraged students petitioned against the cameras after they spotted them in the toilets and even refused to use the [B]loos all day so they were not caught on CCTV.


This is when I knew I didn't really care. They'd never get away with it here.

Dayve
02-25-2008, 11:04 PM
Before you all get your torches and pitchforks out, let me explain how this isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I went to one of the top 3 worst highschools in England. The whole place was filthy, especially the toilets, and a lot of bullying went on in there also. Just to give you some example of how dirty they were... There was shit smeared on the walls, a layer of piss on the floor, toilet paper thrown into the toilet so nobody else could use it and sinks blocked up with toilet paper to flood the room. The whole room was caked in shit (literally). The caretakers would clean them at the end of the day, and by the end of the following day they would be back to how i described. CCTV cameras would have been great in there, would have been beneficial to every student.

Also a lot of bullying takes place in the toilets at school, so that could be another reason. The article said the cameras weren't pointing anywhere 'bad', so i really don't see what the outcry is about. As long as you can't see any of the kids peepee's on them, it's really no big deal.

Frosty
02-25-2008, 11:15 PM
Before you all get your torches and pitchforks out, let me explain how this isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I went to one of the top 3 worst highschools in England. The whole place was filthy, especially the toilets, and a lot of bullying went on in there also. Just to give you some example of how dirty they were... There was shit smeared on the walls, a layer of piss on the floor, toilet paper thrown into the toilet so nobody else could use it and sinks blocked up with toilet paper to flood the room. The whole room was caked in shit (literally). The caretakers would clean them at the end of the day, and by the end of the following day they would be back to how i described. CCTV cameras would have been great in there, would have been beneficial to every student.

Also a lot of bullying takes place in the toilets at school, so that could be another reason. The article said the cameras weren't pointing anywhere 'bad', so i really don't see what the outcry is about. As long as you can't see any of the kids peepee's on them, it's really no big deal.

"He added that there was no particular problem with toilet bullying or vandalism that would have required surveillance.

"The students were telling us that if there had been a problem they could have understood it," he said."

~RE: The article

If there was no known cases of vandalism and/or bullying in the washroom, I see no reason for them to be installed in the first place. If these instances had previously occurred, I'd be all for it. But there was no precedence or reason for these cameras to be installed.

Dayve
02-25-2008, 11:33 PM
Well then, get out your torches and pitchforks i guess. The only thing left i can think of is smoking in there. If there is no problems with smoking in there then it's probably some pervert looking for kicks.

Capt_Canada
02-26-2008, 12:29 AM
What kind of fucked up kids wipe feces on walls...

_Joe
02-26-2008, 12:41 AM
I they where just facing the sinks, I highly doubt they where aimed at the little boys willies ...

Once again we probably won't find out since the witch burners are probably already grabbing their pitchforks and lighting their torches ...

That article says

Earlier, a 15-year-old boy, who did not wish to be named, said the cameras were trained on the hand basins.

So.... you would want to videotape HS kids in the bathroom?






awkward


What kind of fucked up kids wipe feces on walls...

Apparently none of the kids in the school in the article, but I've had some kids do that at my HS. Mostly dirt poor freshmen who're hooked on Skoal or drugs. And only guys.