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WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 04:03 PM
In your opinion what is the nicest car that is not found on american roads? mine would be the holden commodore gts :
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2006-Holden-Special-Vehicles-GTS-VE-SuperCharged_W0QQitemZ150050004009QQihZ005QQcatego ryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s. thats like an extreme special edition, the base model is only like 30k, (u.s. money)
Post yours
BTW: has over 600 hp
OE800
02-26-2008, 04:14 PM
i like the aussie falcons.
Kumacho
02-26-2008, 04:23 PM
In your opinion what is the nicest car that is not found on american roads? mine would be the holden commodore gts :
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2006-Holden-Special-Vehicles-GTS-VE-SuperCharged_W0QQitemZ150050004009QQihZ005QQcatego ryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s. thats like an extreme special edition, the base model is only like 30k, (u.s. money)
Post yours
BTW: has over 600 hp
Not even close... I would have to say it's the Leblanc Mirabeau.
http://www.leblanc-cars.com/mirabeau.htm
WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 04:27 PM
reply to kumacho
yea but your comparison is like comparing a car to a boat... they are totally different classes
Kumacho
02-26-2008, 04:40 PM
The thread is titled "Nicest car NOT in america".
I posted a car. Yes, it is practically a race car, but it is a car.
If you want to stipulate other requirements I'm more than happy to oblige with a different answer.
I mean the Holden is nice and I love the LSX engines. However, to call it the "Nicest car NOT in america" is a misnomer as there are lots of other cars that are nicer and can't be had here.
WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 04:42 PM
i see where you're coming from
Total Madman
02-26-2008, 04:52 PM
i see where you're coming from
Why are you looking at his penis?
WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 04:54 PM
wow.... just, wow. back to the cars now!
PitwrkzZ1
02-26-2008, 05:29 PM
RX7 Spirit R
http://www.akimitsu.net/image/top2005-08.jpg
Yum
Skiptomylue
02-26-2008, 05:31 PM
see. mesh wheels look amazing on that, they dont seem to look to good on the Rx8 though.
Kumacho
02-26-2008, 06:11 PM
Another entry... 10 Cookies to whoever can name the car.
http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/O/E/HBOEAH5aqwe_Pxgen_r_395xA.jpg
http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/V/7/HBV7OtNX_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg
http://www.racetechuk.com/uploads/images/_JL20111_CONV.jpg
WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 06:13 PM
peugeot 908 rc looks similar, but idk
sheepsoup
02-26-2008, 06:19 PM
Gumpert Apollo. Gimme my COOOKKKIIIEEESSS!!!!!!
Kumacho
02-26-2008, 06:36 PM
Gumpert Apollo. Gimme my COOOKKKIIIEEESSS!!!!!!
I didn't think anyone could get it that fast! Nicely done!
I think this is more than 10 cookies.
http://www.chocolate-chip-cookie-recipes.com/images/chewy-chocolate-chip-cookies.jpg
WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 06:38 PM
i see 16, ill buy the extra 6 from u
sheepsoup
02-26-2008, 06:46 PM
No. Those cookies look too good. Thank you kind gentleman.
Now if only I could find some...
http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/billboard_f.jpg
Ahh, that's better.
http://www.artic.edu/webspaces/viscom4570/class2001_fall/jeffery_jura/assignment1/images/cookies.jpg
Nothing to see here.
Death_Revenant
02-26-2008, 07:02 PM
http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/TorqueOmata1606.jpg
break3r
02-26-2008, 07:43 PM
http://www.nissan-skyline-parts.com/image/Nissan%20Skyline%20R34%20GTR.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Zastava_Koral_1983_UK.jpg/800px-Zastava_Koral_1983_UK.jpg
Sylvestre
02-26-2008, 08:39 PM
Another entry... 10 Cookies to whoever can name the car.
http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/O/E/HBOEAH5aqwe_Pxgen_r_395xA.jpg
http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/V/7/HBV7OtNX_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg
http://www.racetechuk.com/uploads/images/_JL20111_CONV.jpg
Gumpert Apollo, its an alright supercar car.
EDIT: i see im a bit late of on the reply damn you sheepsoup
dudeinanigloo
02-26-2008, 08:53 PM
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/dudeinanigloo/aston-martin-db9.jpg
My vote goes to the Aston Martin DB9. So sexy.
elliott678
02-26-2008, 09:04 PM
My vote goes to the Aston Martin DB9. So sexy.Those are here.
sheepsoup
02-26-2008, 10:25 PM
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/dudeinanigloo/aston-martin-db9.jpg
My vote goes to the Aston Martin DB9. So sexy.
Yes, we have these, and they are quite nice. Get with the program friend.
My cookies were tasty. Almost as tasty as that milk.
Skylines are a joke, and we can get them here as well.
Skiptomylue
02-26-2008, 10:26 PM
http://www.fast-autos.net/data/images/8170.jpg
clutch-monkey
02-26-2008, 11:40 PM
In your opinion what is the nicest car that is not found on american roads? mine would be the holden commodore gts :
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2006-Holden-Special-Vehicles-GTS-VE-SuperCharged_W0QQitemZ150050004009QQihZ005QQcatego ryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s. thats like an extreme special edition, the base model is only like 30k, (u.s. money)
Post yours
BTW: has over 600 hp
heh, i have a picture of that exact car next to mine at a meet & greet. close to 700hp at the fly is what the owner told me he was getting, i like it with the walkinshaw hood but the wheels are a bit meh...
Skylines are a joke, and we can get them here as well.
they stopped importation but even if you can get them for race only then they're still technically not on american roads :D
WEtakinOVER
02-26-2008, 11:49 PM
yea im eventually thinking of importing one here (used v6 hopefully for like 25k; not that fast but its something that people wont know what it is) just got to find out about titling it
Spank666
02-26-2008, 11:52 PM
yea im eventually thinking of importing one here (used v6 hopefully for like 25k; not that fast but its something that people wont know what it is) just got to find out about titling it
Good luck finding crash test information on a Holden. You might have to import 2 just to get the crash test info on one.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Good luck finding crash test information on a Holden. You might have to import 2 just to get the crash test info on one.
why would i need crash test results?
Spank666
02-27-2008, 12:23 AM
why would i need crash test results?
Do you plan on making it street legal?
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 12:25 AM
yea of course... i know to make it perfectly legal it needs to be lhd but some mail vehicles are rhd so idk..... is it hard to make it legal w/o converting the steering?
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 12:58 AM
yea im eventually thinking of importing one here (used v6 hopefully for like 25k; not that fast but its something that people wont know what it is) just got to find out about titling it
wait for the G8 and then put the original holden front end on. far cheaper and less hassle. that way it's been imported for you already and already LHD.
also, wait for the manual and DI V6 to come out :)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7365/p1010074xn6resizedev2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9031/p1010073qz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Good luck finding crash test information on a Holden. You might have to import 2 just to get the crash test info on one.
it already meets US crash standards.
elliott678
02-27-2008, 01:01 AM
yea of course... i know to make it perfectly legal it needs to be lhd but some mail vehicles are rhd so idk..... is it hard to make it legal w/o converting the steering?
I have yet to see a law that says the car must be LHD to be in the US. There is a RHD Subaru wagon around here from the early 90's that does mail delivery for rural areas, it was in this country long before it became used for mail.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 01:18 AM
wait for the G8 and then put the original holden front end on.
dam i didnt even know pontiac was going to steal the design. a while ago i looked through every Holden model made throughout the years and noticed alot of designs were stolen and used in american cars.... this makes me mad because now people would think its a Pontiac, so i dont even want one....
elliott678
02-27-2008, 01:27 AM
this makes me mad because now people would think its a Pontiac, so i dont even want one....
Same car anyway. Do you really have to feel that special? Holden is GM, they have always shared designs and platforms between countries.
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 01:34 AM
My guess is he doesn't even know what LSX means... Rookies. :ahhh:
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 01:34 AM
yea it would just be fun to have people be like "wtf is that".... also it would be fun being pulled over and watching the confused cop walk to the drivers window
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 01:36 AM
dam i didnt even know pontiac was going to steal the design. a while ago i looked through every Holden model made throughout the years and noticed alot of designs were stolen and used in american cars.... this makes me mad because now people would think its a Pontiac, so i dont even want one....
thanks to the pontiac redesign the pontiac front end in particular looks a lot different (arguably a lot uglier) than the original front end so badge it and use the holden wheels as well and it'll be different enough. see the GTO conversions for example
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 01:36 AM
My guess is he doesn't even know what LSX means... Rookies. :ahhh:
its not LSX, its LSx..... fail
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 01:43 AM
its not LSX its LSx..... fail
Umm, I dun think so son. LSX is the accepted nomenclature. Take the time to find out if you are right BEFORE you claim a victory.
Again rookie, since you didn't realize that Holden and GM are the same company I wouldn't expect you know how it is properly written or even what it means...
If ya wanna play with the big boys, you better sharpen your knowledge a bit first.
You were identified, measured and found to be woefully lacking.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 01:47 AM
Umm, I dun think so son. LSX is the accepted nomenclature. Take the time to find out if you are right BEFORE you claim a victory.
Again rookie, since you didn't realize that Holden and GM are the same company I wouldn't expect you know how it is properly written or even what it means...
If ya wanna play with the big boys, you better sharpen your knowledge a bit first.
You were identified, measured and found to be woefully lacking.
ur wrong again! sure lots of people say LSX but its wrong just like if someone would type "i feel good"; its acceptable but few actually know its incorrect and the correct is "i feel well" its the same with LSx, so think again pal
go do a google search for "lsx engine" and look through the first 4 pages or w/e.... and count how many LSx's you see...
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 01:50 AM
ur wrong again! sure lots of people say LSX but its wrong just like if someone would type "i feel good"; its acceptable but few actually know its incorrect and the correct is "i feel well" its the same with LSx, so think again pal
Hey guys look! A teen wants to argue GM motors with me! Weeeee!
Boy, you are clueless. I have been turning wrenches on cars since you were a sperm in your daddies sack.
So the right way is LSx huh?
Click here and tell the owner of the webpage they are wrong... (http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LSX&engine=LSX&sku=19166454&engCat=ls)
Oh wait! That's GM performance parts! Time to get off now kidling.
elliott678
02-27-2008, 01:51 AM
Introducing LSX: No Dream Is Too Extreme
Dream bigger. Because the new GM Performance Parts LSX takes the LS-series V8 to the ultimate extreme. Shaped from 50-plus years of V8 know-how and refined with the speed secrets of Warren "The Professor" Johnson, the LSX block was engineered to handle up to 2,500 horsepower, all for a price that will have the rest of the world wondering how we did it. Build your dream with LSX, available March 2007. http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LSX&engine=LSX&sku=19166454&engCat=ls
EDIT: Kumacho was faster
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 01:54 AM
ill give you half credit because some people do use LSX, do a google search for "lsx engine" and look at the first 4 pages and tell me that 20 ppl are pulling shit out their ass. so we are both right
http://www.newagegto.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31
tell me a site deticated to a particular gm make is wrong!
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 01:56 AM
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LSX&engine=LSX&sku=19166454&engCat=ls
EDIT: Kumacho was faster
Heh. He's a poser Eliott. My guess is he's 16 (at best). He would do well to listen and learn to folks like you who have "been there, done that" then to show is automotive ignorance in a forum.
ill give you half credit because some people do use LSX, do a google search for "lsx engine" and look at the first 4 pages and tell me that 20 ppl are pulling shit out their ass. so we are both right
http://www.newagegto.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31
tell me a site deticated to a particular gm make is wrong!
So the GM website we both provided is wrong and some forum is correct? :dunce:
10 fails for you
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 01:58 AM
you guys visit the link?
elliott678
02-27-2008, 02:00 AM
http://www.newagegto.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31
tell me a site deticated to a particular gm make is wrong!
They are using LSx to cover all LS family engines, LS1, LS2, LS6, LS7,etc. The LSX is a specific engine in the LS family.
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:03 AM
Yes, the LS family of engines are aluminum block engines. The LSX engine is designed to build for extreme horsepower application and has a cast iron block.
There is a huge difference.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:04 AM
edit: this is a reply to elliot: how come you say that now? i have a feeling (by that i mean: i know) that you just learned that.... so im equally as correct as u if you think about it.... plus im a honda guy, so if you wanna go about honda engines i would be happy to compete
elliott678
02-27-2008, 02:08 AM
edit: this is a reply to elliot: how come you say that now? i have a feeling (by that i mean: i know) that you just learned that.... so im equally as correct as u if you think about it.... plus im a honda guy, so if you wanna go about honda engines i would be happy to compete
I've always said LSx or LS* to cover the whole family, but was also aware of the LSX engine.
Also, I don't care about what engine is in a Honda unless I am working on it, and luckily that is a rare occasion.
Heh, look what I found, a post of mine from 2005, referring to the family. Actually, long before the unveiling of the LSX at SEMA.
I don't have a problem with your opinion, I would just like to know why you don't like them. I don't have much experience with the MOD family of engines, from what I see they are pretty nice engines. I couldn't go "the SBC is the worst engine ever made" without someone asking why I think that.
Also there is no way to include all American V8s, the LSx, Ford 335 series and Ford Y-block are all popular engines but are all left out.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:12 AM
see..... the only gm I/anyone im my family owned was a Shelby and that is a whole nother class than we are talking about.... so i had no ambition to learn about gm's.... gm is your deal. honda is mine....
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 02:14 AM
see..... the only gm I/anyone im my family owned was a Shelby
wait...what?
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:14 AM
see..... the only gm I/anyone im my family owned was a Shelby and that is a whole nother class than we are talking about.... so i had no ambition to learn about gm's.... gm is your deal. honda is mine....
Quoted, bolded and colorized for pure laugh factor! Wanna bet he doesn't even know what is funny about that statement!? :banghead: :dunce: :lmao: :ahhh:
Time to step away from the keyboard and repeat the following, "I know jackshit about cars". Say that 100 times...
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:16 AM
wut u dont believe me?
elliott678
02-27-2008, 02:17 AM
gm is your deal. honda is mine....
I'm not a GM man to be honest, I'm a Ford or AMC guy, I just fix Chevys.
EDIT: I just saw the other part when they pointed it out...GTFO!
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:18 AM
wut u dont believe me?
No, we know you are full of shit. How about a picture of this car. I'm sure everyone would love to see it.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:19 AM
ok, to be better, how bout a cell phone pic (since its not off the internet?) btw its gone now :(
edit: sold it and bought 69 427 vette
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:21 AM
ok, to be better, how bout a cell phone pic (since its not off the internet?) btw its gone now :(
Son, it never existed. Time for you to drop it before you dig your hole deeper.
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 02:22 AM
wut u dont believe me?
i've never heard of shelby having anything to do with GM :ahhh:
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:23 AM
ok, ill prove it.... its on my cell, who wants me to message them to you?
elliott678
02-27-2008, 02:24 AM
i've never heard of shelby having anything to do with GM :ahhh:Ford and Chrysler, but never GM.
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:28 AM
i've never heard of shelby having anything to do with GM :ahhh:
The only dealing Carroll had with GM was to ask them to supply motors for the A/C Cobra and GM refused. So Carroll went to ford and the rest, as they say, is history.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:30 AM
would you like me to prove the shelby?
o and yea saying the gm thing was stupid lol i was thinking of the vette but put shelby which was replaced by the vette when we sold it
elliott678
02-27-2008, 02:30 AM
The only dealing Carroll had with GM was to ask them to supply motors for the A/C Cobra and GM refused. So Carroll went to ford and the rest, as they say, is history.
Bet GM kicks themselves for denying the chance to have a hand in one of the most legendary cars ever.
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:32 AM
would you like me to prove the shelby?
You don't get it do you? GM never made a Shelby in any shape or form. After GM refused to supply engines to Carroll Shelby for the A/C Cobra, he never had anything to do with them again.
There is no such a thing as a GM Shelby... :banghead:
Bet GM kicks themselves for denying the chance to have a hand in one of the most legendary cars ever.
Possibly one of the biggest mistakes GM ever made... Right up there in grand GM mistakes is closing down the St. Therese manufacturing plant and killing the Fbodies in doing so.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:35 AM
would you like me to prove the shelby?
o and yea saying the gm thing was stupid lol i was thinking of the vette but put shelby which was replaced by the vette when we sold it
as i already said..... i already admitted to the gm mistake
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:40 AM
Last edited by WEtakinOVER : 02-26-2008 at 10:33 PM
02-26-2008 10:32 PM
Kumacho
Edited after I finally let you off the hook by saying there is no such creature. Nice try though.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:44 AM
dude i dont refresh every 10 secs! the time it would have taken me to refresh, read your post, think of that, type the edit........ not to mention with second laps the difference could be only 2 secs (of course it could be more, but just saying)... think about it
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 02:46 AM
do u still want proof?, and i'd love to see how you do in the honda or vw categories....
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 02:56 AM
do u still want proof?, and i'd love to see how you do in the honda or vw categories....
Let's see here. I currently drive a 350Z. My previous car was a 2000 Camaro SS that I built. All the cars I have ever owned have been performance oriented cars. Why would I have enough interest in Honda to even want to start a discussion with you about it?
You want to talk Honda Motorcyles? Okay, I'm good to go there.
You want to talk about any and all Z-cars? Check.
True enthusiasts don't talk Hondas as they really didn't make a performance car until just recently with the S2000.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 03:00 AM
ok fine gm and nissan are your strengths, and my weeknesses.... and my strenghts are diff and they are probably your weekness, so think again when you call someone a rookie
and as the same with me.... i could prove you wrong about about the s2000 being the first performance car
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 03:07 AM
ok fine gm and nissan are your strengths, and my weeknesses.... and my strenghts are diff and they are probably your weekness, so think again when you call someone a rookie
Not knowing that Holden and GM are the same = rookie
Not knowing what the LSX is = rookie
Saying GM Shelby (mistake or not) = rookie
Stop acting like you know about cars and learn. Then people won't frown on your silly remarks.
By the way, just because I don't care to discuss Honda cars, doesn't mean I know nothing about them. I'm well aware of the differnt engines and I even know a few good engine swaps. That doesn't change the fact that I don't care to talk about a car that isn't performance oriented.
The only Honda engine I would even care to talk about is the F20C and that is because I'm amazed at the horsepower produced from a 2 litre engine. Just as amazing is the total lack of torque...
Edit: When you say Honda Performance cars before the S2000 you better not be talking about the S500, S600 or even the S800. Those were pigs powered by an underpowered motorcycle engine.
elliott678
02-27-2008, 03:08 AM
ok fine gm and nissan are your strengths, and my weeknesses.... and my strenghts are diff and they are probably your weekness, so think again when you call someone a rookie
Well, if it is your weakness, then don't call out someone who has multiple GM vehicles in his sig, including one that was LS1 powered.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 03:11 AM
Not knowing that Holden and GM are the same = rookie
Not knowing what the LSX is = rookie
Saying GM Shelby (mistake or not) = rookie
Stop acting like you know about cars and learn. Then people won't frown on your silly remarks.
By the way, just because I don't care to discuss Honda cars, doesn't mean I know nothing about them. I'm well aware of the differnt engines and I even know a few good engine swaps. That doesn't change the fact that I don't care to talk about a car that isn't performance oriented.
The only Honda engine I would even care to talk about is the F20C and that is because I'm amazed at the horsepower produced from a 2 litre engine. Just as amazing is the total lack of torque...
(for #2) i never said i didnt know what an lsx was so... (for #1)and big deal i didnt know holden was gm..... again im not in the american scene... (for #3)and how does a mistake make someone a rookie?
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 03:13 AM
now kumacho.... you say honda isnt your strength, then why do you say the s2000 is the first performance car honda made because since 1991 honda made a car that out performs the s2000, care to guess?
again dont call out if you dont know
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 03:23 AM
i see you dont reply when your proved wrong..
time has passed, i see when you get confronted you pussy out.... what if i told you there were 2 performance cars before the s2k if you count fwd cars also...
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 03:35 AM
i see you dont reply when your proved wrong...
Nope, I just don't care to discuss it further.
Because you will say, NSX... Acura maybe division of Honda, however, I do not consider the NSX a Honda.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 03:42 AM
how could you not consider a nsx honda? what does it say under the hood? honda motor co.! acura is not a division of honda; it is honda! the nsx was created by honda in japan in 1990 and called a honda nsx, and in 1991 brought to the u.s. with an acura emblem. so look up "honda nsx" on google and tell me its not a honda
and if you wanted to count fwd cars, h22 preludes, some models came with 220hp, almost as much a s2k and more torque..... and if you wanted to get in euro and japan spec hondas there are many more of what you call "performance" cars.
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 03:53 AM
how could you not consider a nsx honda? what does it say under the hood? honda motor co.! acura is not a division of honda; it is honda! the nsx was created by honda in japan in 1990 and called a honda nsx, and in 1991 brought to the u.s. with an acura emblem. so look up "honda nsx" on google and tell me its not a honda
and if you wanted to count fwd cars, h22 preludes, some models came with 220hp, almost as much a s2k and more torque..... and if you wanted to get in euro and japan spec hondas there are many more of what you call "performance" cars.
LOL. How did I know you were going to go all NSX on me...
The quickest of the Preludes were 7.8 seconds 0-60. The '91 CRX was quicker than the '91 Prelude. That hardly makes the Prelude a performance car... Horsepower on the H22A1 (highest rated H22) was only 190. The car had crappy weight distribution and the all wheel steering was never any good. Not at all impressive and not at all a performance car. There was a Type S Prelude made in 2001 (I think) that made 220 horsepower, but it was still too heavy and didn't have good weight distribution.
Like I said; Honda is not performance oriented and I could care less about them. But even I know
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 03:59 AM
pal you forgot the first obd2 h22z with the lsd trans .... 220hp
basicly any open deck h22 with lsd trans will push 215-220 and its more like 6.2-6.7
edit, dude your retarded! 91 preludes didnt even have h22's! see what happens when you talk about what you dont know
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 04:02 AM
pal you forgot the first obd2 h22z with the lsd trans .... 220hp
The H22z is an Australian motor and has the same block as an H22A. I'm sure my buddy with the 911 from Australia will back me up on that one.
<edit> Well, this hasn't been fun and it's fast approaching midnight thirty here. I have to be up at 5:30 am to go earn a living.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 04:11 AM
h22z was warranty replacement motor in america too!
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/340481
and what happened to that 91 h22 prelude? theres no such thing buddy
plus i said any open deck h22
conversation closed, i owned you in every aspect of the argument. now whos the rookie?
HERES ANOTHER THING YOU JUST FUCKED UP ON.... all-wheel steering was not a feature on preludes with h22's!
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 04:25 AM
The H22z is an Australian motor and has the same block as an H22A. I'm sure my buddy with the 911 from Australia will back me up on that one.
<edit> Well, this hasn't been fun and it's fast approaching midnight thirty here. I have to be up at 5:30 am to go earn a living.
yup.. the prelude is more a grand tourer/econocar anyway than a sports car.
the CRX has far better sporting credentials, even if it needs some work to bring out the best of it.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 04:26 AM
we are talking about bone stock.... mostly about engine performance
he has no clue about hondas, refer to my previous post...
elliott678
02-27-2008, 04:28 AM
He did say that he doesn't care about Honda's, right? You never said you didn't care about GM's, you even stated in the opening post that you wanted one.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 04:33 AM
yes i agree that he said he didnt care for hondas, but he was acting like he knew about them, in which i proved wrong almost every statement he said
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 05:02 AM
eh..well i'm putting a B16 into my mini clubman. [/vaguely on topic]
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 05:09 AM
nice, good luck, is the van fwd? lots and lots of wiring but i guess it could work
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 05:24 AM
van?
yes it is fwd, there is a complete conversion kit available so it will work, lol.
elliott678
02-27-2008, 05:27 AM
Wiring would be the least of the issues, I would think.
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 05:40 AM
if theres a full kit, go for it... otherwise you would run into many other problems..... if your not looking to build the b16 that much then it would probably be cheaper to mod the stock engine
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 05:44 AM
not really, the A series motor isn't all that flash.
popular swaps are the turbo 1.3L engines from the toyota starlet GT or a similar engine from the suzuki swift and daihatsu charade, non-turbo conversions of the last being great for economy. the B16 is more expensive but keeps me in the right race category and is different
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 05:49 AM
hell yea i hate having the same as everyone else
Skiptomylue
02-27-2008, 09:24 AM
:lmao: i just read threw all the pages since last night i couldnt stop laughing, my god
Spank666
02-27-2008, 11:20 AM
Wow, this new guy needs to shut the fuck up.
veXati0n
02-27-2008, 03:23 PM
I always seem to come back to ebuams forum to laugh at the idiots. It often provides me with that deep, howling kind of laugh. The kind of laugh that makes you nearly cry out 'stop! I can't breathe!!!'
Thanks WEtakinover. Thank you so much for your stupidity and entertainment.
sheepsoup
02-27-2008, 03:42 PM
Honda sucks.
When did this thread turn into a competition about who knows more about cars? Why would that ever be a competitive thing. And how does knowing more about Hondas than someone else knows about GM (or vice versa) trump anything? You guys are ridiculous.
Hey Clutch, would you mind telling me a little about the history of your Porsche? Like, how long you've had it, what you did to build it, how much you invested, etc. Thanks in advance.
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I went against my better judgement talking about Hondas. I shouldn't even have been on the forum that time of night.
Since I'm really the one that sidetracked (or at least help derail the topic) I'll put it back on track.
http://www.carsandtuning.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/bmw-335d-coupe4.jpg
What's not to love about a TT 3 liter that gets great fuel economy and performs well?!
Don Juan
02-27-2008, 06:30 PM
The maybach exelero. I'm too lazy to look up the pics I don't think it's available on the states, at least not yet, hell now that I think about it's not even a production car yet, I might be wrong though.
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 07:08 PM
Hey Clutch, would you mind telling me a little about the history of your Porsche? Like, how long you've had it, what you did to build it, how much you invested, etc. Thanks in advance.
i've had it since..last august i think it was? i can't find my own thread.
i didn't do anything to build it apart from get a set of wider wheels and toy with the suspension a little. the guy who built it (with the help of the workshop i take it to) is 73 years old, and wanted to get something more benign for the road as he was giving up tarmac rallies.
I was still looking for a 968 CS or a widebody 3.2 when my mechanic told me it was going to be up for sale the next day. as i'd seen it in action the week before at the suncoast rally bought it that afternoon for the same price as a honda civic type R :)
i remember while getting the wheels for it, the tyre guy accidentally knocked the engine kill switch - i acted like it was ruined and they'd fucked my car and they fitted bridgestone potenza's for free :lol: as soon as they went back inside i just flicked the switch back on and drove off.
as far as i know it's been in one targa tasmania rally, suncoast classic rally, and a PCQ bathurst classic sprints event.
i have a pic somewhere of it with all four wheels off the ground during the targa tasmania :ahhh:
Yeah, I went against my better judgement talking about Hondas. I shouldn't even have been on the forum that time of night.
Since I'm really the one that sidetracked (or at least help derail the topic) I'll put it back on track.
http://www.carsandtuning.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/bmw-335d-coupe4.jpg
What's not to love about a TT 3 liter that gets great fuel economy and performs well?!
it's fat ass :p
wait- i swear they sell those in America? or do the owners just keep them in the garage
WEtakinOVER
02-27-2008, 07:17 PM
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/47020/2006147235180524758_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006147235180524758)
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/45740/2006199415795958364_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006199415795958364)
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/44443/2006167585619938511_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006167585619938511)
Audi AS3....
Kumacho
02-27-2008, 07:54 PM
it's fat ass :p
wait- i swear they sell those in America? or do the owners just keep them in the garage
Nope, not available in the US with the Diesel. Yup, it's fat. But with over 740 torque that weight ain't a big deal.
clutch-monkey
02-27-2008, 08:15 PM
Nope, not available in the US with the Diesel. Yup, it's fat. But with over 740 torque that weight ain't a big deal.
wow, that kinda sucks. what else do you guys not get? does alfa romeo, citroen, renault etc etc sell cars in the US?
DarkNick
02-28-2008, 02:53 AM
^Nope, nope, and nope
MyBike
02-28-2008, 03:05 AM
Acura LSx?
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/09/05/automobiles/533-audi-01.jpg
WEtakinOVER
02-28-2008, 06:39 AM
Audi RS6 Avant ^^^^
sheepsoup
02-28-2008, 12:09 PM
i've had it since..last august i think it was? i can't find my own thread.
i didn't do anything to build it apart from get a set of wider wheels and toy with the suspension a little. the guy who built it (with the help of the workshop i take it to) is 73 years old, and wanted to get something more benign for the road as he was giving up tarmac rallies.
I was still looking for a 968 CS or a widebody 3.2 when my mechanic told me it was going to be up for sale the next day. as i'd seen it in action the week before at the suncoast rally bought it that afternoon for the same price as a honda civic type R :)
i remember while getting the wheels for it, the tyre guy accidentally knocked the engine kill switch - i acted like it was ruined and they'd fucked my car and they fitted bridgestone potenza's for free :lol: as soon as they went back inside i just flicked the switch back on and drove off.
as far as i know it's been in one targa tasmania rally, suncoast classic rally, and a PCQ bathurst classic sprints event.
i have a pic somewhere of it with all four wheels off the ground during the targa tasmania :ahhh:
Thanks so much. It's something I think I might enjoy building in a year or so. It's very cool. Keep it clean!:)
break3r
02-28-2008, 02:12 PM
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/47020/2006147235180524758_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006147235180524758)
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/45740/2006199415795958364_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006199415795958364)
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/44443/2006167585619938511_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006167585619938511)
Audi AS3....
Seen them in Miami!
^Nope, nope, and nope
Peugeot? Skoda? Seat? Fiat?
So you have no idea about a whole raft of amusing cars...
Clio Renaultsport 197 Cup
8c competizione
C4 by LOEB
for example?
DarkNick
02-28-2008, 06:35 PM
^I've seen pictures, but no, they don't sell those here either...
You probably won't be getting these:
http://www.rsperformance.co.uk/
Caterham Seven Levante
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/images/news/inhouse/4473%5B1%5D-03.jpg
Ariel Atom 500
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/atom-500-v8-l.jpg
Spank666
02-28-2008, 09:51 PM
You probably won't be getting these:
http://www.rsperformance.co.uk/
Caterham Seven Levante
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/images/news/inhouse/4473%5B1%5D-03.jpg
Ariel Atom 500
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/atom-500-v8-l.jpg
BALLS why cant we have any fun here?
Kumacho
02-29-2008, 01:06 AM
You probably won't be getting these:
http://www.rsperformance.co.uk/
Caterham Seven Levante
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/images/news/inhouse/4473%5B1%5D-03.jpg
Ariel Atom 500
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/atom-500-v8-l.jpg
We can get the Ariel through Brammo Motorsports in Oregon. I don't believe the 500 is offered here yet. But we can hope and dream.
We can get Caterham Sevens through Caterham USA. But once again not the Levante.
I suppose you could take a CSR and make it into a Levante.
veXati0n
02-29-2008, 10:28 AM
http://www.gglotus.org/gghotnews/autox.jpg
BALLS why cant we have any fun here?
Hmm, it seems like you Americans are loosing a bit of ground in the batshit mentalist car stakes lately.
We can get the Ariel through Brammo Motorsports in Oregon. I don't believe the 500 is offered here yet. But we can hope and dream.
We can get Caterham Sevens through Caterham USA. But once again not the Levante.
I suppose you could take a CSR and make it into a Levante.
Well some reports mention that the Levante is limited to 8 cars. Maybe if you have the money to buy one they will export it to the US in LHD configuration, who knows?
The Atom built by Brammo under license doesn't even use the same standard engine as the one built over here by Ariel, so I doubt a mental version like this would be transferable. Same applies to this as the Levante though. I'm guessing if you had the money they'd make you a LHD one for you to import.
I don't think you could easily take a standard car and give it the Russell Savory treatment unless you already worked in a performance engineering shop, and then if you had wanted to you would have done already.
Kumacho
02-29-2008, 03:26 PM
Hmm, it seems like you Americans are loosing a bit of ground in the batshit mentalist car stakes lately.
Well some reports mention that the Levante is limited to 8 cars. Maybe if you have the money to buy one they will export it to the US in LHD configuration, who knows?
The Atom built by Brammo under license doesn't even use the same standard engine as the one built over here by Ariel, so I doubt a mental version like this would be transferable. Same applies to this as the Levante though. I'm guessing if you had the money they'd make you a LHD one for you to import.
I don't think you could easily take a standard car and give it the Russell Savory treatment unless you already worked in a performance engineering shop, and then if you had wanted to you would have done already.
Well Poop and fall back in it... Fucking stupid assed laws.
clutch-monkey
02-29-2008, 06:11 PM
shit, i just saw all the new releases from ford and holden :ahhh:
i'll put them up until GM decides to import one or two of them
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/29/melbourne-2008-new-fpv-lineup-shows-the-blue-oval-does-badass/
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/28/melbourne-2008-holden-unveils-ve-sportwagon-and-adds-ss-for-fla/
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/28/australian-badass-hsv-w427-super-saloon-gets-z06-power/
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/28/melbourne-2008-holden-coupe-60-shocks-showgoers/
viepr149
02-29-2008, 06:18 PM
lol i coulda told u the nicest cars aren't in america. Italians are the best at that, they make the best cars, have the best fashion, and best food.
Although i gotta give credit to the Germans...they stepped up a notch when they dropped the Porsche GT. Thats a very nice car and has A LOT of power lol.
Chinese are the worst, they are probably the most unoriginal people on this planet. All they can do is fucking copy.
Chezee
02-29-2008, 06:50 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4984/cliov604041024vq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7056/renaultcliov6ao0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
These things are sexy as hell and go like shit off a shovel! Poor Americans....
Skiptomylue
02-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Chinese are the worst, they are probably the most unoriginal people on this planet. All they can do is fucking copy.
what? what are you talking about?
elliott678
02-29-2008, 06:59 PM
lol i coulda told u the nicest cars aren't in america. Italians are the best at that, they make the best cars, have the best fashion, and best food.
Although i gotta give credit to the Germans...they stepped up a notch when they dropped the Porsche GT. Thats a very nice car and has A LOT of power lol.
We have Italian and German cars in America :squint:
Don Juan
02-29-2008, 07:13 PM
lol i coulda told u the nicest cars aren't in america. Italians are the best at that, they make the best cars, have the best fashion, and best food.
Although i gotta give credit to the Germans...they stepped up a notch when they dropped the Porsche GT. Thats a very nice car and has A LOT of power lol.
Chinese are the worst, they are probably the most unoriginal people on this planet. All they can do is fucking copy.
Reading comprehension owns you. :squint:
DarkNick
03-01-2008, 08:40 PM
http://www.gglotus.org/gghotnews/autox.jpg
We do have Lotus Elises here (Exiges too). I've seen a few in my area.
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