Islamist blows up with excitement at peace talks

[rand0m]

Doctor: 40 dead in Pakistan attack (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080302/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_61;_ylt=Ajkv33Q7FbhK541qXiwc4KTzPukA)

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - A suicide bomber blew himself up Sunday at a large meeting called by tribal elders pushing for peace in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 40 people and injuring more than 100, witnesses and officials said.

It was the third suicide bombing in as many days in the volatile northwest, where security forces were battling pro-Taliban Islamic militants.

Thousands of people were at the meeting in Darra Adam Khel in North West Frontier Province about 25 miles south of the provincial capital, Peshawar. The five tribes involved wanted to finalize a resolution calling for punishing anyone who sheltered or helped militants, including those of al-Qaida and the Taliban, Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema said on state-run Pakistan Television.

Alam Khan, a tribesman who attended, said a young man walked up to a group of elders and blew himself up.

"It was a huge explosion and left body parts and blood scattered on the ground," said Ramin Khan, whose left leg and face were wounded.

Dr. Hamid Afridy, the area's chief medical officer, said he counted 40 bodies, some with severed limbs and mutilated faces, at the site.

"We have dispatched more than 100 injured to .. hospitals" in Peshawar and Kohat town, he told The Associated Press. He said he feared the death toll could rise because many of the injured were in critical condition.

Pakistan Television said the suspected bomber's severed head was found.

Television footage showed blood, shoes and caps littering the bombing site — a tree-lined ground amid wheat fields that is only a few yards away from brick homes.

On Friday, a suicide bomber blew himself up at the funeral of a slain police officer in Mingora town in Swat Valley, killing more than 40 people and injuring at least 60. The next, day another suicide bombing in nearby Bajur killed one person and wounded 19 others, mostly security personnel.

Well ... so much for those peace talks, I think Islam has stamped its feelings on that subject

I guess this sort of behavior is ok, since at least people are still trying for peace ... oh wait ... they just got killed. Well maybe next time ... oh wait ... now anyone thinking of supporting peace will be scared off by another excited muslim.

I guess caving into every demand and tiny indecency will help them out though. I mean its only so long untill they all realise that violence isn't the way despite the fatility rate of those who stand up for peace ...

I guess ignoring the problem that is entirely and soley connected to Islam is best approached from a sensitive angle that doesn't actually mention Islam. It's like telling a dude with bad BO he stinks like shit only you can't mention smell. Tell him hes beautiful and give him something, that'll make him realise he stinks.

[texmaster]

+1 for the title :D

Sadly, this isn't surprising for anyone who has studied the history of Islam.

Start with the most quoted verse in the Qur'an "The Verse of the Sword"

"Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them . . ."

[Zardozus]

+1 for the title :D

Sadly, this isn't surprising for anyone who has studied the history of Islam.

Start with the most quoted verse in the Qur'an "The Verse of the Sword"

"Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them . . ."

Even though that is a true statement you made, is taught in and by the Koran and is in proper context - you will be accused of being 'hateful' and this will be disregarded.
Not by the Terrorists themselves who actually agree with that verse and instruction but by non-Muslims in this forum who think they are being 'tolerant' and 'protecting oppressed' or want to appear as sophisticated 'liberal progressive' types.


Bukhari (Hadith) has this explanation:
"By Allah, Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

If it can be shown Muslims are somehow 'apostate' or 'fighting against Allah' (for example: co-operating with US troupes) then there is a specific justification for killing them, as prescribed by Islamic teachings.

That entire verse in its entirety is here (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/083.sbt.html#009.083.037) where you can read about how Mohammad captured some alleged murderers and apostates and ordered their hands and feet to be cut off,
then took metal pins, got them hot and stuck them into the eyes of the mutilated men.
Then Mohammad had them left in the Sun to die from exposure.

Keep in mind, Mohammad had been kind enough to prescribe them Camel Urine and Milk for their health,
but,
they were horrifically tortured, mutilated and suffered horrific deaths for deserting Islam... and theft and murder.

*fixed link

[texmaster]

Even though that is a true statement you made, is taught in and by the Koran and is in proper context - you will be accused of being 'hateful' and this will be disregarded.
Not by the Terrorists themselves who actually agree with that verse and instruction but by non-Muslims in this forum who think they are being 'tolerant' and 'protecting oppressed' or want to appear as sophisticated 'liberal progressive' types.

Sigh. I know, you're right of course.


Bukhari (Hadith) has this explanation:
"By Allah, Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

If it can be shown Muslims are somehow 'apostate' or 'fighting against Allah' (for example: co-operating with US troupes) then there is a specific justification for killing them, as prescribed by Islamic teachings.

That entire verse in its entirety is here where you can read about how Mohammad captured some alleged murderers and apostates and ordered their hands and feet to be cut off,
then took metal pins, got them hot and stuck them into the eyes of the mutilated men.
Then Mohammad had them left in the Sun to die from exposure.

Keep in mind, Mohammad had been kind enough to prescribe them Camel Urine and Milk for their health,
but,
they were horrifically tortured, mutilated and suffered horrific deaths for deserting Islam... and theft and murder.

Some excellent points.

It is extremely easy for Muslims to justify a holy war because they do not have to proclaim they are under attack, only that the infidels refuse to pay the jizya tax for allowing them to live in peace with Muslims.

Of course anyone starting a religion by attacking their own home town because they refused to convert should be looked at with a watchful eye.

[NastyEvilDemon]

Absolutely disgusting. I expect no less from these desert bugs.

[American Infidel]

Even though that is a true statement you made, is taught in and by the Koran and is in proper context - you will be accused of being 'hateful' and this will be disregarded.
Not by the Terrorists themselves who actually agree with that verse and instruction but by non-Muslims in this forum who think they are being 'tolerant' and 'protecting oppressed' or want to appear as sophisticated 'liberal progressive' types.

Aint that the truth!

[Kazimierz]

Doctor: 40 dead in Pakistan attack (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080302/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_61;_ylt=Ajkv33Q7FbhK541qXiwc4KTzPukA)



Well ... so much for those peace talks, I think Islam has stamped its feelings on that subject

I guess this sort of behavior is ok, since at least people are still trying for peace ... oh wait ... they just got killed. Well maybe next time ... oh wait ... now anyone thinking of supporting peace will be scared off by another excited muslim.

I guess caving into every demand and tiny indecency will help them out though. I mean its only so long untill they all realise that violence isn't the way despite the fatility rate of those who stand up for peace ...

I guess ignoring the problem that is entirely and soley connected to Islam is best approached from a sensitive angle that doesn't actually mention Islam. It's like telling a dude with bad BO he stinks like shit only you can't mention smell. Tell him hes beautiful and give him something, that'll make him realise he stinks.

Well, 100 injured, 40 dead. That's at least 140 people there. One person goes in there and fucks it up, so all Muslims are terrorists?

[NastyEvilDemon]

No, not all muslims... but some. The problem is telling the difference, isn't it?

[American Infidel]

Since they all "valiantly" blend in with the innocent population, you've got a point.

Maybe if they draw a big red peace symbol on the tents they dress their women in, we'll know not to snipe them, accidentally.

[modogthemonkey]

So who in charge of security at this meeting?


Probably same person in charge of Benazir Bhutto's security.

[rand0m]

Well, 100 injured, 40 dead. That's at least 140 people there. One person goes in there and fucks it up, so all Muslims are terrorists?

Well ignoring the terrorists behind the scene that trained, financed and planed the attacks. Working all through Islam from funding to influencing to finding people susceptible enough to be pushed into blowing themselves up.

You only need one corrupt muslim inam in a mosque to plant the seeds of hatred within his muslim community. Combined with the sheer state of the middle-east, the current wars and the general islamic agenda that they are at war. You easily have a community begging for blood.

Fact is innocent muslims are been twisted and corrupted through Islam too easily. Fact is the majority of Muslims are been slowly corrupted and radicalised by the minority. With little resistance they are turning entire communities into terrorist sympathising hotspots for radicalisation and recruitment all over the world.

Through ignorance, lies and the authority given through the structure of Islam, the so called 'minority' are greatly affected the majority, slowly corrupting through all the ranks, creating a unified network of hate and corruption. Whether it be your local youth who’s impressionable minds are an easy target to twist and convince martyrdom is the right thing, or its the local mosque that sees it fit to accommodate terrorists radical and intolerant preachers, or whether it’s the money pouring in from Saudi Arabia along with radical material and teachings. Islam is the sole problem here.

I couldn't give a shit about a massive organisation consisting of terrorists, we don't let them live in our country, we don't let them roam free. However having a community of self-contained terrorist sympathisers, people who wouldn't commit an act of terror but would turn a blind eye to radical teachings, would turn a blind eye to the group that always meets in the mosque, to slowly harbour a growing resentment to the western communities. We can't sheild ourselves from these ones. We can't throw them all into jail. We just have to sit and hope that our security services are good enough to catch them as they fall.

I would like to think the body of Islam could open its eyes and purge it's extremist members, set out new rules and rights. Yet with every new article, speech and action from the vast majority of these Muslims superiors, my hopes are dashed. The amount of intolerence, hate and corruption withing the ranks just removes any form of reasurance one day they'll open their eyes.

However untill then, more radical preachers will spread their word through Islam and extremism rates will increase. The ones that should be controlling and moderating Islam are the very ones radicalising it, if not just standing by and letting it happen. At the end of the day the ones that will suffer are not us Westerners but the Muslim community itself, whether they end up been pushed into blow themselves up, or getting blown up by their own people they only have hate and violence ahead of them.