If you had a muscle car, how would you set it up?

[Iaretehpwn]

Personally, I'd want a 67 firebird with a 521 Big Block and a blower. Set it up on some nice drag tires and then take that bitch out on rt 3 and race those stupid ricers.

[yamahadrummer]

if i wanted something that wasnt a daily driver and i wanted to actually buy racing fuel and get 2mpg in i would probably go with a 1970 chevelle with something like a 780ci bored out big block.
if i had to actually drive it everyday i would probably settle for anything from the 327 to the 454 depending on how much money i make (which is very little atm) haha

[OE800]

82 mustang with T-tops.

[break3r]

I really dont have a fav muscle car. I like them all. But I would go with anything with a 400+ CI engine :P

[elliott678]

'66 Mustang Coupe
GT40P headed 9.75:1cr 331ci stroker ~350hp
WC T5 trans
3.73:1 9" rear with a soft locker
~11" disc brakes all the way around
14 x 7 Magnum 500 wheels
Toreador Red or Vintage Burgundy paint
Black standard interior.

That is the what I am trying for, some is already there, a lot isn't.

[Fnr Bikes]

A 1969 Camaro with a Currie 9in ford read end with 4:10 gears and four link setup with wilwood drag brakes and a tub. For the motor I would take A 496ci
with Dart Alum heads and roller rockers with a Edelbrock Cam and Egale Rotating assembly, and a 6-71 Weind blower with 2 1000cfm carbs. For the tranny I would use a 700R4 with a Manual valve body and A 3000 stall converter. The interior would be made out of sheet metal and the dash would be covered with autometer gauges. The body would have a Fiberglass nose with fiberglass doors, then the car will be shot in Jet black, Then wraped with a black Vinyl roof.

Or...... I'd take a 1969 Camaro COPO 427:boink:

[elliott678]

A 6-71 to feed a hot 496? No way in hell.

[Fnr Bikes]

I ment 8-71

[Spank666]

Of all things, why Autometer gauges?

[elliott678]

Of all things, why Autometer gauges?I never understood the need to put them in everything either. They are really overpriced for the quality. I'm more partial to VDO.

[Spank666]

I never understood the need to put them in everything either. They are really overpriced for the quality. I'm more partial to VDO.

I learned the hard way about Autometer's shitty quality. Paid good money for an electric boost gauge, then when it didn't work, customer service just up and told me it was my fault. They never once listened to my case, much less would they even begin to consider their part just didnt work.

[elliott678]

I've actually had better luck with the $30 SunPro 3 gauge pods at the parts stores than I have had with Autometer.

[Fnr Bikes]

Com'om dudes, I had em in my camaro and they where the best. Looked sweet to...

[Total Madman]

A Ford Probe. Stock.

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[tacticalXJ]

A ford festiva with a twin 80mm turbos on the inline 3 hahha!!!!! and paint it bright orange.


Really tho id take a stock super bird or a dodge daytona charger. I love those big cars with the cone fronts and big wings on that back. Not to mention a lower drag coefficient than most of todays cars.

[clutch-monkey]

camaro or mustang of any generation (pre-90's hopfeully) and build them up to the same spec as the touring car/tarmac rally ones (like the pinepack foxbody mustangs or the channel 9 camaro. lighter, wider track, good brakes, suspension etc
failing that, torana A9X/SLR5000 or E49 charger and do the same with a lot less work

[ftbllplr]

4 cylinder 1992 Mazda 626 running on 3. Snow tires.

[Kumacho]

If I were going to build a car for street racing (which I wouldn't do since racing on the street is just stupid), I would start with a 1962 Ford Falcon or Chevy II. Light cars that you can easily put a large displacement engine in and still hide it...

Sleepers>all

[OE800]

1962 Ford Falcon

i like this idea...

[MyBike]

I'd take a decently powerful muscle car and deck it out with the newest mobile entertainment technologies such as DirecTV.

[Niture]

this: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/769000-769999/769896_8.jpg

[elliott678]

It would be fine. The only difference between the two is the 8-71 would be more efficient. I'd rather not overdrive the shit out of it and create more heat than necessary.

[OE800]

this: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/769000-769999/769896_8.jpg

this looks pretty sweet. is that your car?

[veXati0n]

Black 69 Corvette Vert.
Twin turbo 383
Forged everything
Nitrous Oxide
Tubbed for drag tires

...Linelock. :D

[Niture]

yeah its my car, had it for awhile now, 64 ford galaxie 500 XL, probably not the fastest thing built the motor and most of the other car myself, just got an 8qt kickout oil pan for it.
> http://www.cardomain.com/ride/769896

[break3r]

You can get old muscle cars in good shape for under 15k. Best bang for the buck. Cant find good cars anymore with 400+ hp for the price

[elliott678]

You usually will make more power with a bigger blower, even at the same boost. My friend swapped out his 6-71@8psi setup on his 540ci BBC for a 10-71 setup that he picked up used, running at 8psi, he picked up 4 tenths. He was also able to advance the timing more without detonation because of the cooler charge.

If money is no object, or you just luck into it, bigger is better, within reason. (A 16-71 on a 350 isn't going to do too well)

[Beldar]

To be honest, I'll keep my Ranger.

Keep the Ranger, take that stock SOHC 2.3 4 cylinder and multiply that by 2...

What do you get? A 4.6 V8. :)

Not from a GT, im talking about the DOHC 4.6. Sucks i'd have to make custom headers for it, but my friend has done this swap and its sweet.

[OE800]

Elliott and Darc, what are your thoughts on 331 strokers? is it really worth the money? im getting some AFR 165cc heads and will run about 9.5-10:1, i have a performer RPM intake, autolite 4100 600 CFM, and will be running a hydraulic cam with about .550" lift and about 280 or so duration, shorty headers, and T-tops. and how soon will my T-5 WC explode?


yeah its my car, had it for awhile now, 64 ford galaxie 500 XL, probably not the fastest thing built the motor and most of the other car myself, just got an 8qt kickout oil pan for it.
> http://www.cardomain.com/ride/769896

thats badass, vintage burgundy is one of the best colors for that car too, love the tear drop.

[elliott678]

The 331 will give you some low end advantage, a 302 is great, but make most power on the top end, a 331 brings in some low end without sacrificing much at the top end. I really don't like the wrist pin location and rod angle of a 347, for 16ci less, you get a more reliable engine. The way I see it, if you are already replacing the rotating assembly with forged parts, may as well add some displacement for not much more money.

[OE800]

i like low end power, do you know of any "affordable" 331 kits that are actually made in the US anymore?

[elliott678]

Pretty sure a lot of Scat and Eagle's production has gone to China. The only company that I know of that hasn't gone to China is Cola, but their 3.250" forged Ford cranks are over double what a Scat or Eagle crank costs.

[OE800]

yeah fuck that, ill keep my 3" stroke, i dont really need the extra power anyway, i should use that money for suspension and brakes. i want to get the eibach autocross springs and some decent high pressure shocks. ill most likely keep the stock brakes for now.

[Iaretehpwn]

If I were going to build a car for street racing (which I wouldn't do since racing on the street is just stupid), I would start with a 1962 Ford Falcon or Chevy II. Light cars that you can easily put a large displacement engine in and still hide it...

Sleepers>all

I want them to see it, and fear it.

[Kumacho]

I want them to see it, and fear it.

My 2000 Camaro SS was a n/a fire breather. Lumpy cam, headers, magnaflow exhaust and I still got jacked up by ricers all the time. These fools are not smart enough to fear anything. They think their fart can equipped Hondas are a match for anything.

I still say it's better to build a sleeper if street racing is what you are going to do.

With-that-said; making a fire breather for street racing is stupid. Street racing is stupid. And since your sole intention is to build a car for street racing, you are no better than the rice boys.