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appleb
04-15-2008, 11:56 PM
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_21731.aspx

This makes me sick. But then again, we did let the Air India bombers go free as well.

They were accused of being involved in what could have been one of the worst terror attacks to ever hit this country. But now four men implicated in crimes that were never actually committed are going free.

The so-called Toronto Terror plot saw 18 suspects arrested between June and August of 2006, charged with planning to attack some high profile Canadian targets, possibly including the CN Tower, the Toronto Stock Exchange and the TTC.

And while the case against three of them had already fallen apart, another four are now off the hook, after the Crown stayed charges against them in a Brampton courtroom on Tuesday.

It means Qayyum Abdul Jamal, Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, Ibrahim Aboud and Yasim Mohamed will have the charges against them dropped and unless the Crown decides to reactivate them within a year - an unlikely move - they'll be free.

It's a huge relief to those involved, who always proclaimed their innocence.

Among them: Jamal (top left), the oldest of the accused, who had been painted as the ringleader of the terror gang. He spent 17 months behind bars - 13 of them in solitary confinement. "I'll move on with my life," he insists, before claiming bitterly, "Being in jail was not proper. I was tortured. I was abused based on my age."

Three out of the four are on a peace bond for the next year, which keeps them under a curfew.

But while the lawyers for Canada have been reluctantly forced to admit they can't make their case, those representing the now former accused are incensed that their clients were ever put into the system in the first place.

Rocco Galati represents Ghany. He calls the arrest a blatant instance of racial profiling. "He'll be forever stigmatized by the charges, like, you know, regardless of whether they're stayed or not," he notes.

Those alleged to be involved in the plot all attended a camp north of Toronto before their arrests. Officials had claimed it was conducting training for terrorists. But those who went there counter it was just what it seemed - a facility designed to "identify people of skill, physical and spiritual," and not conduct any kind of nefarious activities.

"My client went to a winter camp for five days with some of his friends, and for that his life has been irrevocably changed into a Kafkaesque nightmare," complains Raymond Motee, the lawyer for Aboud.

"As far as I'm concerned ... there should be some form of inquiry as to why it was this gentleman spent such a period of time in custody and spent it in the fashion that he did," demands Anser Farooq, Jamal's advocate.

Eleven people still remain accused of plotting the terrible deeds, which allegedly included storming the Parliament Buildings, kidnapping MPs and even beheading the Prime Minister.

Thankfully, any such plan - if it existed - was discovered before it could happen and the legal proceedings of those involved have plodded slowly through the courts under veils of extreme secrecy ever since.

"I believe, and this is my own personal opinion, that ... there's been a political agenda," charges Motee. "This is Canada's way of showing that we're fighting the war on terror."

Galati agrees and gets even more contentious. "I think a lot of western prosecutions on alleged terrorism charges are simply horse and pony shows in furtherance of George Bush's oil war and to sustain Canada's commitment in Afghanistan."

The trial for the remaining young offender will begin next month, while the rest of the suspects will likely get their day in court sometime next year.

shade
04-16-2008, 12:13 AM
Yeah... how dare they release people who were accused of planning something that there was no proof of. How dare they!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jordan
04-16-2008, 12:24 AM
Yeah... how dare they release people who were accused of planning something that there was no proof of. How dare they!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed! I mean just cause someone didn't commit a crime, doesn't mean we shouldn't charge them!

jajo
04-16-2008, 12:27 AM
"I think a lot of western prosecutions on alleged terrorism charges are simply horse and pony shows in furtherance of George Bush's oil war and to sustain Canada's commitment in Afghanistan."

the fuck is this guy smoking? As far as I know this is the first case of that magnitutde in Toronto, so what does he mean by "a lot"; and there are no statistics which show that this trial improved the public pereception of the war. Regardless, maybe it's just my ignorance or I believe too much in the authorities and what they are telling us but I think these guys should've stayed in jail. But the law is the law and you have to respect it. A similar thing happened with gang raids in Toronto neighbourhoods, they were hailed as a success by the media but the majority of the guys captured were released soon after.

Quick_Draw21
04-16-2008, 12:45 AM
the fuck is this guy smoking? As far as I know this is the first case of that magnitutde in Toronto, so what does he mean by "a lot"; and there are no statistics which show that this trial improved the public pereception of the war. Regardless, maybe it's just my ignorance or I believe too much in the authorities and what they are telling us but I think these guys should've stayed in jail. But the law is the law and you have to respect it. A similar thing happened with gang raids in Toronto neighbourhoods, they were hailed as a success by the media but the majority of the guys captured were released soon after.

So you believe they should be in jail even though there was no case or evidence against them? :banghead:

jajo
04-16-2008, 01:10 AM
yea, you are right. I did some additional research on the subject and it seems I expressed my opinion too soon; 2 years was enough to build a strong case. Thanks for pointing out.

bonenator
04-16-2008, 02:39 AM
the longest you should be able to keep someone in jail without having the trial begin is a month imo. plenty of time to gather any evidence and ask for more time. if legit evidence is presented and they could be convicted on 1 charge, while they were in jail for that the dudes could get mad evidence and build their big case.

look like canadia failed abit here, i feel bad for those dudes if they really didnt have any bad intentions, thats horrible.

Spike Lee
04-16-2008, 12:24 PM
Yes, those guys deserve to be let go. They have nothin on them.

appleb
04-16-2008, 01:41 PM
Bullshit this group wasn't up to something.

From wikipedia:

The police state that one of the arrested men, 20-year-old Zakaria Amara, ordered three metric tonnes (6600 pounds) of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, a potentially powerful ingredient often used as quarry and mining explosives. This weight has widely been compared to the amount of ammonium nitrate used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing in the United States. The official account estimates the ammonium nitrate in the Oklahoma City bomb at 2000 pounds, or about 0.9 metric tons. Therefore, this scale comparison should be interpreted cautiously, as the true amount seized in the arrests could be as little as 38% more, to over 200% more, than was used in Oklahoma City. There was never any serious chance of danger or harm as a harmless substance was substituted for the ammonium nitrate and delivered to the men by the RCMP in a sting operation.[3]

Canadian ammonium nitrate suppliers have publicly stated that after the events of the Oklahoma City bombing, it has been their policy not to deliver any substantial quantity of the chemical to anyone who is not a known customer. As such it would be virtually impossible for someone who is not a commercial farmer to obtain possession of any quantity of the compound. It is therefore unlikely that the suspects could have ordered the compound without raising police suspicion in any case.

In a press conference held after the arrests, the RCMP said that the CSIS had been monitoring the individuals since 2004, joined by the RCMP last year [6], and that the individuals had planned to blow up unidentified targets in southern Ontario. The suspects, all adherents to Islam, were alleged by CSIS to have been inspired by Al-Qaeda[7]. A direct connection seems unlikely, as none of the suspects are known to be affiliated with the organization [8]. Canadian Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, was informed of the raids, as were other political, security and police leaders across Ontario. The investigation started with intelligence officials monitoring Internet chat sites. The suspects were charged under the anti-terrorism legislation passed by Canadian parliament in December 2001 in response to the September 11 attacks in the United States. The June 2 and 3 arrests were only the second time the legislation has been used, and marked one of the largest anti-terrorism arrests in North America.

Face Plant
04-16-2008, 02:48 PM
The most comical part was when paint ball morphed into a terrorist training camp, gimme of fucking break.

I thought this so called "terror plot" had the whiff of bullshit then. I stated as such in this very forum at the time and remember getting grief for it too