Do you hate pop songs just because? [Archive]

Metzgore

05-03-2008, 07:52 PM

I don't like them because:
1) Either the lyrics are similar to the other popular songs released in the last year, or the lyrics are about absolutely nothing.

2) The songs are very predictable, if its a mainstream rock song, you can pinpoint when both guitars come together and play 4 beat power chordes in the chorus.

3) The songs are very bland, theres nothing in them that makes you go "wow, that was pretty cool".

4) All these chart topper songs are the best songs on the artists CD, so you buy the CD and theres that one good song and 8 more tracks that are pure garbage. ex, Gnarls Barkley.

5) I have nothing against true rap or hip-hop but this shit they play on the radio has got to stop. All i hear is SHAWTY SHAWTY CLUUUB DRANK SHAWTY and then a word that is substituted for the word DICK.

6) I can go on and on with this.

7) IT IS NOT METAL! \m/

amirmuh

05-03-2008, 07:54 PM

5) I have nothing against true rap or hip-hop but this shit they play on the radio has got to stop. All i hear is SHAWTY SHAWTY CLUUUB DRANK SHAWTY and then a word that is substituted for the word DICK.

LOL! so true:lmao:

Gooser

05-03-2008, 08:18 PM

I just hate the bands that are created by the music producers/companies. They tell em what to wear, what to sing, how to act; they are just mass produced bullshit.

If you wanna see what i mean, just look on the music channels on TV

esruC

05-03-2008, 08:48 PM

I don't like them because:

4) All these chart topper songs are the best songs on the artists CD, so you buy the CD and theres that one good song and 8 more tracks that are pure garbage. ex, Gnarls Barkley.

St. Elsewhere is a great album.

Edgecrusher

05-04-2008, 03:08 AM

I fucking love Gwen Stefani's music.

WilliamCarrion

05-04-2008, 03:17 AM

I don't care what genre what is. Though I tend to not like pop, and haven't listened to the radio in a few years. If I hear something and its good then its good. I'm not an elitist.for the most part.

Just Spurplin

05-04-2008, 03:40 AM

Some of Kelly Clarkson's songs kick ass.

demonoid

05-04-2008, 04:37 AM

7) IT IS NOT METAL! \m/

Fuck ya...main reason here(although I'm a 50/50 metal/indie head :p)

SatanTheSith

05-04-2008, 05:37 AM

I dislike pop because it sounds like shit.

Shameless

05-04-2008, 01:48 PM

Nope. Some pop is good, some pop is bad, but kids who hate on it just because are always douchebags.

Rootraz

05-04-2008, 03:10 PM

4) All these chart topper songs are the best songs on the artists CD, so you buy the CD and theres that one good song and 8 more tracks that are pure garbage. ex, Gnarls Barkley.

I agree with you on most of your points, but you gave a very bad example. Crazy is not even close to one of the best songs on St. Elsewhere.

But anyway, I don't have a problem with music just if it's popular, I have a problem with it if it sucks, which happens with most popular music these days.

Trent215

05-04-2008, 03:12 PM

I'd say 75% of pop I hear in popular radio/TV, etc. is bad while 25% is from not bad to enjoyable to great

Al Paccioli

05-04-2008, 03:31 PM

I hate everything just because.

splinter43351

05-04-2008, 04:24 PM

I hate most pop because it is shit. thats a simple way to put it. I listen to music that i enjoy not music that someone else enjoys or hates.

Meph1986

05-04-2008, 06:13 PM

Because there is a lack of innovation.

Unhinged

05-04-2008, 06:43 PM

Some of the pop that I like more would be along the lines of maybe Third Eye Blind. They are pretty good musically and you have to appreciate the fact thatthey know how to write a good hook. Most pop I can only tolerate because of the production values and engineering. Most pop is fairly harmless, it's the "club music" pop and "bubblegum rock" pop bands that make me grind my teeth.

ehogepr

05-04-2008, 06:47 PM

rogerthepirate

05-04-2008, 08:43 PM

You can usually find one or two good songs in most all genres, except rap. But the really good music is the indie stuff that is out there in the music clubs. It can be hard to discover. Unless you are in a very metropolitan area or you are willing to drive all over the country visiting back roads bar after back roads bar.

JohnnySynth

05-05-2008, 05:20 AM

I think if a song works for whatever moment you're in than whatever. People who are really into music judge musics worth song by song. I hate it when people judge it by artist and the biggest douchebags (which is very frequent) judge solely of the genre.

Oh it's not by the artists you like? "It's gay"

Oh it's not the genres you like? "It's gay"

Fucking sheep.

Rangus

05-05-2008, 06:33 AM

just not my type of music i just find it horrible

GiveItAway

05-05-2008, 07:33 AM

Some of it's alright, nothing wrong with a bit of cheery music once in a while. Here's a couple I'd consider pop music and listen to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2UWxiLSA48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4X7eFbP3u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alJWEgIhF9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIb6I8gtgtw

amirmuh

05-05-2008, 09:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNZPURFJNU

I like this song for some reason

demonoid

05-05-2008, 09:56 AM

Most of the pop stuff i can't tolerate...bcuz it either has

1.A female vocalist just trying to get our money...less emphasis on the instruments and more on vocals/looks.
Or
2.They just suck.

What i really don't mind and like quite a lot actually is indie-pop.
Stuff like the smiths, patrick wolf, death cab for cutie, vampire weekend etcetc are just brilliant imo...they are showing how popular music should really be like.
More like pop/rock...i know it might sound too generic but you guys do get it...there is a lot of difference b/w them and the ones who are there only for the money/fame.

_jax

05-05-2008, 10:21 AM

tool wish they could sell records like 50 cent

FACT

amirmuh

05-05-2008, 05:34 PM

Im not sure why, but any indie genres tend to be much more original then pop songs. but as soon as they become popular they lose all of their "independence" im not sure why though. Black eyed peas is a good example. back before the fergier days i liked them but now they've lost it.

Joey-Clemenza

05-05-2008, 06:44 PM

I think The Foo Fighters are a great band. Dave Grohl is a testament to great songwriting that can hold it's own in the mainstream as well as the underground circuit.

_jax

05-05-2008, 06:54 PM

michael jaxon is the king of pop

he can molest all the kids his little heart desires as far as im concerned

-Ryan-

05-05-2008, 07:08 PM

It really just depends what you classify as pop. Some of it's good, yet the other percentage of it is just un-original bull. The pop that is good is enjoyable to everyone, whereas the shit is enjoyable to people with no taste..

Unhinged

05-05-2008, 07:16 PM

tool wish they could sell records like 50 cent

FACT

why? Tool has won 3 grammy's. 50 cent has none. Tool sells a shitload of records, why would they want to sell as many as 50 fucking cent?

Marchosias

05-05-2008, 07:22 PM

So do you hate all songs that are popular just because everyone else likes them? personally, I wont stop liking a song but i do find it annoying when i discover a song and it becomes "pop" shortly after. But if a song is on the radio I find I can still enjoy it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w
good example here

im into underground hip hop and some metal. but i like the song u posted. there r a few pop songs i like. im not gonna say it's shit just cos it's mainstream. that's kinda like a trend in itself these days...

kevinsmith

05-05-2008, 07:40 PM

Some pop is pure crap, but sometimes you also get a good song in there. I always laugh at the people who hate something because it's popular. They think they are being unique by hating it...just like their friends. lol.
It's like the goth kids when I was in school, "We're unique" Yeah...while you're dressed exactly like your friends. Have fun being ironic and not even knowing it.

amirmuh

05-05-2008, 07:41 PM

It's like the goth kids when I was in school, "We're unique" Yeah...while you're dressed exactly like your friends. Have fun being ironic and not even knowing it.

the kids who shop at hot topic not knowing its owned by the Gap?:lol:

_jax

05-06-2008, 03:39 AM

why? Tool has won 3 grammy's. 50 cent has none. Tool sells a shitload of records, why would they want to sell as many as 50 fucking cent?cause at the end of the day, most people dont know who the fuck they are

50 cent is a household name

tool is a "you know those guys that did that funky video..." kinda band

and dont tell me they dont want fame/fortune cause they wouldn't be signed then. they wouldn't be sold in fucking best buy.

Unhinged

05-06-2008, 07:55 AM

cause at the end of the day, most people dont know who the fuck they are

50 cent is a household name

tool is a "you know those guys that did that funky video..." kinda band

and dont tell me they dont want fame/fortune cause they wouldn't be signed then. they wouldn't be sold in fucking best buy.

i don't know what this has to do with the thread, but i think you picked the wrong band to compare to 50 cent. Tool pretty obviously appreciates the drug-induced artistic approach to music. Everything about their albums is art, so I think they would rather put out an album that is awesome to their core market of fans (LSD users) than make one that 90% of the general public will like.

Deamatix

05-06-2008, 08:11 PM

I dislike it because it is so manufactured, and I can't concentrate on a song when I am constantly saying "This sounds EXACTLY like last week's #1 hit. It's not so much about having a band that is very skilled or great songwriters, it's about getting a somewhat catchy song, and attaching a gimmick to it that boosts sales. Then once the trend is set, sign up the next 20 bands who can sound just like the first one.

"I'm a rocker, and to rebel against the system I'm going to sing a song about how my girlfriend broke up with me at school and made my heart bleed tears. This song is sponsored in part by Hot Topic, the only real underground fashion store."

"I'm a rapper. You ready for some new shit? My name is Lil' [First name here], comin straight outa Compton. Yo yo, niggas in da club, dat shawty drink and smoke, so I lean with it rock with it! The po-lease after my rocks! I'm a real gangsta bitch! Rims rims rims rims rims rims rims rims rims rims!"

camjoe87

05-06-2008, 08:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNZPURFJNU

I like this song for some reason
Probably because it's a cover of a Supertramp song, a real good band by the way...

amirmuh

05-06-2008, 08:53 PM

Probably because it's a cover of a Supertramp song, a real good band by the way...

Ive heard the cover, my moms the one who pointed that out to me:rolleyes:

it is a great song though

Fungus Amungus

05-06-2008, 09:00 PM

I hate pop songs because they're dry and have little depth. On top of that people listen to it just to feel like thier hip. They acted like they get entranced by the music, but they just putting on a show.
By the way, bands don't make money from record sales. It's very low. They make money from tour shows and rights useage.

temp100

05-06-2008, 10:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNZPURFJNU

I like this song for some reason
Supertramp was more than just a pop band though - they had some serious prog albums back in the day.

_jax

05-07-2008, 06:22 AM

i don't know what this has to do with the thread, but i think you picked the wrong band to compare to 50 cent. Tool pretty obviously appreciates the drug-induced artistic approach to music. Everything about their albums is art, so I think they would rather put out an album that is awesome to their core market of fans (LSD users) than make one that 90% of the general public will like.well it has to do with the thread cause i said so. and those are some general statements my nig. everyone has a target audience. all albums are art. you can choose to believe they're in it to make a druggie's acid trip better but reality is, they wanna get paid. that's why they're signed. if they were all about artistic freedom they'd be better off staying away from the labels :blahblah:

how this relates to the hatred of commercial pop....? use your imagination

Unhinged

05-07-2008, 01:17 PM

well it has to do with the thread cause i said so. and those are some general statements my nig. everyone has a target audience. all albums are art. you can choose to believe they're in it to make a druggie's acid trip better but reality is, they wanna get paid. that's why they're signed. if they were all about artistic freedom they'd be better off staying away from the labels :blahblah:

how this relates to the hatred of commercial pop....? use your imagination

Tool takes a much much more artistic approach to music than 50 cent. Do not attmept to argue this point, you will lose. It is irrelevant, anyway.

50 cent has sold just under 20 million albums, while Tool has sold just over 14 million. Now, to me, that's not that drastic of an increase. And labels are an effective method to nationally market and distribute your art, so to stay away from them completely would not be smart. A band that is at Tool's stage of popularity has little concern for producers trying to mainstream their music. They have their artistic freedoms. And of course everyone wants to get paid, in any industry.

_jax

05-07-2008, 02:32 PM

Tool takes a much much more artistic approach to music than 50 cent. Do not attmept to argue this point, you will lose. It is irrelevant, anyway. it is irrelevant. it's also not much of a statement. 'more artistic?' what does that even mean

sounds like the typical pretentious, vague assertions often made on message boards

50 cent has sold just under 20 million albums, while Tool has sold just over 14 million. Now, to me, that's not that drastic of an increase. And labels are an effective method to nationally market and distribute your art, so to stay away from them completely would not be smart. A band that is at Tool's stage of popularity has little concern for producers trying to mainstream their music. They have their artistic freedoms. And of course everyone wants to get paid, in any industry.right, labels are good for not only distribution but promotion as well.. but those elements are only important to a band that wants to SELL RECORDS. as for the stats.. well lets just keep in mind tool have 5 cd's, 50 has 3. tool have been at it for what... damn near 20 years? 50 came out as a mainstream artist in 02/03. 50's worth about a quarter bil... what about maynard? im not even hating on tool... they are sucessful... i just picked a random band i know you people love. as for artistic freedom... i'm sure they have reasonable leniency by now cause they've established themselves... but all mainstream artists get their shit stifled and stepped on by the labels.. im sure tool aren't exempt.

overall my point is not that tool is wack, but that you kids all hate the artists that are successfully marketed to a large audience cause that's 'manufactured commercialism,' however most the bands you like either wish they could or already do the same thing with a different target audience. this whole shit is paper yo. if your cd is sold at best buy then you are a commercial artist

esruC

05-07-2008, 03:26 PM

blah blah blah 50 cent blah blah

We get it.

Fungus Amungus

05-07-2008, 05:12 PM

it is irrelevant. it's also not much of a statement. 'more artistic?' what does that even mean

sounds like the typical pretentious, vague assertions often made on message boards

right, labels are good for not only distribution but promotion as well.. but those elements are only important to a band that wants to SELL RECORDS. as for the stats.. well lets just keep in mind tool have 5 cd's, 50 has 3. tool have been at it for what... damn near 20 years? 50 came out as a mainstream artist in 02/03. 50's worth about a quarter bil... what about maynard? im not even hating on tool... they are sucessful... i just picked a random band i know you people love. as for artistic freedom... i'm sure they have reasonable leniency by now cause they've established themselves... but all mainstream artists get their shit stifled and stepped on by the labels.. im sure tool aren't exempt.

overall my point is not that tool is wack, but that you kids all hate the artists that are successfully marketed to a large audience cause that's 'manufactured commercialism,' however most the bands you like either wish they could or already do the same thing with a different target audience. this whole shit is paper yo. if your cd is sold at best buy then you are a commercial artist

Tool is a very bad example. They talk all the time how thier label rarely steps in. The label knows if they force the band to do anything it will destroy the song/album. A good example would be Korn for what you're trying to argue.

Unhinged

05-07-2008, 08:16 PM

Tool is a very bad example. They talk all the time how thier label rarely steps in. The label knows if they force the band to do anything it will destroy the song/album. A good example would be Korn for what you're trying to argue.

Thank you. God damn that's all I was trying to say.

amirmuh

05-07-2008, 09:10 PM

I think the overall consensus here is that the pressure the thier label to make money, (which most artists wanna do anyway squashes most creativity and potential of alot of artists.

Lord Gold

05-07-2008, 10:24 PM

It angers me because Pop artists aren't anywhere near as talented as most other artists. It's insane that the people with the talent don't get the recognition, and the ones who write the most boring and shitty songs get all the money.

Compare Tool and 50 Cent. Who does more work? Who gets more money? Who actually writes music? Who actually has talent?

Unhinged

05-07-2008, 11:15 PM

Compare Tool and 50 Cent. Who does more work? Who gets more money? Who actually writes music? Who actually has talent?

Tool's orchestration is much more complex, so they do more work. 50 cent gets more money, probably. Tool actually writes music, 50's producers hand him hit songs. In all honesty, they each have their talents. Tool can write great music, and 50 can take orders from record execs.

_jax

05-08-2008, 03:15 AM

doesnt really matter who works harder. they're competing in a free market.. if they can't make records that sell then that's on them. sell out is a useless term in music cause they all want their albums to sell out at best buy

edit - not saying they dont sell records im sure they do alright. but our messiah 50 cent just happens to do better. he gets money, money is got
Tool is a very bad example. They talk all the time how thier label rarely steps in. The label knows if they force the band to do anything it will destroy the song/album. A good example would be Korn for what you're trying to argue.fair enough. i sincerely doubt they have complete artistic freedom on a major label but i can't prove otherwise..