Clinton Set To Concede: Ding Dong...

[FugginBastid]

... the witch is dead.:lmao:

I'll now have to admit, this was our (most of my fellow conservatives) goal - to drive the political stake down Hillary's political heart.

Now, on to the general election, where, IMHO, more dirt comes out on Barack Hussein Obama, the empty suit.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080603/ap_on_el_pr/clinton

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton will concede Tuesday night that Barack Obama has the delegates to secure the Democratic nomination, campaign officials said, effectively ending her bid to be the nation's first female president.

Obama is 40 delegates shy of clinching the nomination, but he is widely expected to make up the difference Tuesday with superdelegate support and votes in South Dakota and Montana. Once he reaches the magic number of 2,118, Clinton will acknowledge that he has secured the necessary delegates to be the nominee.

The former first lady will stop short of formally suspending or ending her race in her speech in New York City.

She will pledge to continue to speak out on issues like health care. But for all intents and purposes, the two senior officials said, the campaign is over.

Most campaign staff will be let go and will be paid through June 15, said the officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge her plans.

The advisers said Clinton has made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters including a possible vice presidential nomination for her. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care.

Universal health care, Clinton's signature issue as first lady in the 1990s, was a point of dispute between Obama and the New York senator during their epic nomination fight.

Clinton was at home in Chappaqua, N.Y., with her husband, former President Clinton, and was placing calls to friends and supporters.

[Shameless]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.


You're saying that Obama's middle name is Hussein!?!

[chalupa]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.


You're saying that Obama's middle name is Hussein!?!

That means he's a Muslim!

[ouch]

No no guys, this is just his humble opinion. Just like every single post he has ever made.

[JesusTheJedi]

Seriously I want to know why you use his middle name. Why don't you use any other politician's middle name?

[FugginBastid]

Please, just once, try to stay on topic.

Thank You.

Now, does anyone really believe Hillary is out for good?

Did anyone read, in the AP article, where it was stated, 'The former first lady will stop short of formally suspending or ending her race in her speech in New York City."?

Is she leaving herself an out?

[Shameless]

Please, just once, try to stay on topic.

Thank You.

Now, does anyone really believe Hillary is out for good?

Did anyone read, in the AP article, where it was stated, 'The former first lady will stop short of formally suspending or ending her race in her speech in New York City."?

Is she leaving herself an out?

Do you think Hussein "Call Me Osama" Obama is going to start his jihad on Christianity before or after he enters office?

[FugginBastid]

UPDATE: (Who woulda thought lol)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080603/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_mcauliffe_dc

Clinton campaign says she's not conceding

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is "absolutely not" planning to concede the campaign to Barack Obama on Tuesday night, Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe told CNN on Tuesday.

"No one has the number to be the nominee of the Democratic party right now," he said.

McAuliffe, asked about an AP report that Clinton will acknowledge Tuesday night after the South Dakota and Montana primaries that Obama has the delegates to clinch the nomination for the November presidential election, replied: "They are 100 percent incorrect."

[GoGoGooManGo]

That means he's a Muslim!

MUSLIMS!? I'm American and have a natural hatred for those of a different belief system than I, even if really they don't have it! Burn him!

Oh, Hillary dropping out is bad for McCain IMHO. She was more beatable. Unless they would have hired Carl Rove.

[Shameless]

So now all that's left is Barack Hussein "It's pronounced 'bin Ladin' like the terrorist" Obama.

America is doomed.

[FugginBastid]

Oh, Hillary dropping out is bad for McCain IMHO. She was more beatable. Unless they would have hired Carl Rove.

IMHO, Hillary would beat McCain in a landslide. Now, if she's actually dropping out, most of her followers will vote for McCain, or at least that's what I'm reading.

The Obama voters, IMHO, for the most part, voted on EMOTION. Emotion has a way of self-depleting.

I see a McCain/Romney landslide, HISTORIC, victory over the empty suit, come November.

[GoGoGooManGo]

IMHO, Hillary would beat McCain in a landslide. Now, if she's actually dropping out, most of her followers will vote for McCain, or at least that's what I'm reading.

The Obama voters, IMHO, for the most part, voted on EMOTION. Emotion has a way of self-depleting.

I see a McCain/Romney landslide, HISTORIC, victory over the empty suit, come November.

I had a logical post here. It was a well formulated opinion but then I noticed you IMHO'd me and made me feel like a terrorist. You win. I knew my opinion would only be met with disrespect.

[Dayve]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.


You're saying that Obama's middle name is Hussein!?!

He does it because it is a suggestive middle name. It's the same name as Saddam Hussein had. He's one of those assholes that uses HUSSEIN as much as he can to make the uneducated/dumb voters of America think he is somehow connected with terrorism and radical Islam.

He doesn't admit to that however, he just says "His name IS Barrack Hussein Obama, isn't it?" with a few smug smileys afterwards.

Now you're left with two candidates... One that is basically a clone of Bush and will not give America the much needed change that it so badly needs, and one who might give America that change but might just end up being another disaster like Bush.

The choice is... another certain disaster, or a candidate that might be a disaster but MIGHT NOT...

I'd go for the one that could potentially do some good and give him a chance rather than the Bush clone.

[evilmittens]

IMHO, Hillary would beat McCain in a landslide. Now, if she's actually dropping out, most of her followers will vote for McCain, or at least that's what I'm reading.
.

Although I frequently disagree with you, for some reason I cant hate you like others. And your probally correct in that assesment there. I will probally vote for Mccain if Obama doesnt make some issue more clear to me. It also depends on who the VP's are. If Mccain chooses Pawlenty from MN, he will have my vote (or Norm Coleman) Two "republican" politicians who are decent people.

[ouch]

He does it because it is a suggestive middle name. It's the same name as Saddam Hussein had. He's one of those assholes that uses HUSSEIN as much as he can to make the uneducated/dumb voters of America think he is somehow connected with terrorism and radical Islam.

He doesn't admit to that however, he just says "His name IS Barrack Hussein Obama, isn't it?" with a few smug smileys afterwards.

Thanks for the clarification.

[FugginBastid]

Although I frequently disagree with you, for some reason I cant hate you like others. And your probally correct in that assesment there. I will probally vote for Mccain if Obama doesnt make some issue more clear to me. It also depends on who the VP's are. If Mccain chooses Pawlenty from MN, he will have my vote (or Norm Coleman) Two "republican" politicians who are decent people.

It's reads like this, which help me form an opinion like the one, which I suggest Hillary supporters will vote for McCain (And I don't think they will stay home - I think they are MAD).

Thanks for your input.

[Jordan]

IMHO, John McSame will get beat by a large margin by either of the Democratic nominees.

IHMO, I belive, IMHO, that, IMHO, Barrack HUSSEIN Obama is a much, IMHO, better choice to lead America back into, IMHO, the prosperous nation, IMHO, it once was.


Of course, this is all just my humble opinion.

[Frosty]

So now all that's left is Barack Hussein "It's pronounced 'bin Ladin' like the terrorist" Obama.

America is doomed.

You're right. Barack Hussein "I come from an Arab country and despise Israel" Obama will destroy America from within!

Oh, you poor souls!

[Stanky105]

It's reads like this, which help me form an opinion like the one, which I suggest Hillary supporters will vote for McCain (And I don't think they will stay home - I think they are MAD).


I think many will vote for McCain, but it makes you wonder why. I have stated before that Obama and Hillary's main support comes from the fact that one is black and one is a femenist, and this seems to be the main issue. Their threats of voting for McCain seem to come from simply spite, they would rather vote for somebody with opposite political views than aknowledge their canditate lost the primary.

And I am not an Obama supporter, I am just really questioning these "angry old ladies." This voting scheme is even WORSE than the lesser of two evils, they are actually voting FOR what would be their worse of two evils, just for the sake of spite.

[PMUN NY]

WASHINGTON (AP) Jun 3, 3:36 PM EDT -- Hillary Rodham Clinton has told congressional colleagues she would be open to becoming Barack Obama's vice presidential nominee, saying she would consider it if it would help Democrats win the White House.

Clinton, a New York senator, made the comment on a conference call with other New York lawmakers Tuesday, according a participant on the call.

Clinton seems to be indicating now that she would be prepared to consider VP "if it would help the Democrats". Bullshit! She's done everything possible over the last three months to try and ruin a sure win for the Dems this year and now wants the VP job to stay quiet! Hopefully Obama does not fall for this, as I think with her as VP it would improve the odds on John Sidney McCain III to complete Bushs third term!

I think Obama/Edwards will win this November as Edwards can appeal the any white working class racists and Obama can appeal to everyone else.

[Laertes.]

He's already beat Hilary whether she decides to drop out or not. With pledged delagates, and the amount he will get even if he doesn't win these two states today.

I think he wants the ticket to be Obama/Clinton to have a better shot at McCain, so she isn't going anywhere.

[chalupa]

I may have to move to a different planet if we get Obama/Clinton.

[Fungus Amungus]

I wish all of them would concede.

[FugginBastid]

Clinton seems to be indicating now that she would be prepared to consider VP "if it would help the Democrats". Bullshit!


You beat me to it. You're right -- BS! That woman will stop at nothing. And if he does allow her on the ticket, the Repubs will have a field day, with BOTH of them.

This is just plain FUN to watch pan out!

Clinton's remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez, who said she believed the best way for Obama to win key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

"I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November.

[Bo Jackson]

I may have to move to a different planet if we get Obama/Clinton.

No way Obama is dumb enough to choose such a polarizing person as his VP. I mean, honestly, why would you?

[Danimal87]

No way Obama is dumb enough to choose such a polarizing person as his VP. I mean, honestly, why would you?
Because she received 17 million votes in the Democratic primaries.

[chalupa]

No way Obama is dumb enough to choose such a polarizing person as his VP. I mean, honestly, why would you?

I have no idea why he would do it, but there are forces at work behind the scenes. Like I said, if we get Obama - Clinton, I would figure out a way to move to the moon, or possibly Uranus.

[Laertes.]

No way Obama is dumb enough to choose such a polarizing person as his VP. I mean, honestly, why would you?

I was looking for the video on YouTube because I saw it this morning on the six o'clock news but Obama says, "We will be working together for the November election."

The states that Clinton won in the primaries would be one's that Obama would suffer in against McCain, like New York, Florida...which is why he has a better shot with her.

People said that if Obama won the Democratic nomination then they would switch Republican.

[Spike Lee]

A dark day when a MUSLIM gets to be running for the office of this Christian nation. GRRR!

[PMUN NY]

A dark day when a MUSLIM gets to be running for the office of this Christian nation. GRRR!

I saw local idiots, interviewed on CNN, during the West Virginia primary that actually believed (the no doubt Clinton compaign led lie) that Obama was a muslim and therefore choose not to vote for him!

Bloody rednecks!!

[Spike Lee]

It's cause those people think with their gut. They ARE the heroes.

[chalupa]

I saw local idiots, interviewed on CNN, during the West Virginia primary that actually believed (the no doubt Clinton compaign led lie) that Obama was a muslim and therefore choose not to vote for him!

Bloody rednecks!!

Ha! I KNOW people who claim that. I almost hit this one woman I've known for most of my life.

Of course, she thinks Rush Limbaugh is a good source of info, and when the Pope came out against Harry Potter, she didn't let her kids read the books.

[Spike Lee]

The Pope never came out against Harry Potter.

[chalupa]

Let me rephrase -- when the letters that Ratzenberger, as Cardinal, sent about Harry Potter corrupting young souls before they developed surfaced, she felt that the Vatican was against HP novels and forbade her children from reading them.

Either way, she is not her own thinker, and there are a ton of people like that in the US. It is sad, really.

[FugginBastid]

No way Obama is dumb enough to choose such a polarizing person as his VP. I mean, honestly, why would you?

That's a good question. But then again, why would he associate himself with that "church" and paster for twenty years. IMHO, his judgement can be easily called to question.

[Spike Lee]

Let me rephrase -- when the letters that Ratzenberger, as Cardinal, sent about Harry Potter corrupting young souls before they developed surfaced, she felt that the Vatican was against HP novels and forbade her children from reading them.

Either way, she is not her own thinker, and there are a ton of people like that in the US. It is sad, really.
So is it now an official stance of the church? I don't think it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_Harry_Potter#Catholicism

[chalupa]

So is it now an official stance of the church? I don't think it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_Harry_Potter#Catholicism

...and I never said that. Reread what I wrote. She cannot think for herself, even on simple issues like the Church not actually taking a stand on something, but she heard it, and since it was about the Church, she listened 100%.

The point, my argumentative friend (fuggin really got under your skin today, huh?) is that people will listen to complete and utter bullshit about Obama being a Muslim because they cannot think for themselves.

It is sad, really.

[Spike Lee]

...and I never said that. Reread what I wrote. She cannot think for herself, even on simple issues like the Church not actually taking a stand on something, but she heard it, and since it was about the Church, she listened 100%.

The point, my argumentative friend (fuggin really got under your skin today, huh?) is that people will listen to complete and utter bullshit about Obama being a Muslim because they cannot think for themselves.

It is sad, really.
I'm not arguing, I was seriously asking.

[Burningnun]

Apparently Clinton's campaign manager has denied this piece of news, but I suspect it will be enough to turn the polls in Obama's favour more than they already were, and it will probably be the end of her anyway.

[chalupa]

I'm not arguing, I was seriously asking.

yeah, I took a shortcut in the first post by not giving the full description, but that is a good example of what happens. She heard "pope" and "harry potter corrupts souls" and all of the sudden her mind was made up. never bothered to find out the full context, those words were enough.

So, all it took was someone hinting that Obama sounded like Osama and that was it, he was a Muslim who is going to let the terra-ists take over.

[FugginBastid]

...and I never said that. Reread what I wrote. She cannot think for herself, even on simple issues like the Church not actually taking a stand on something, but she heard it, and since it was about the Church, she listened 100%.

The point, my argumentative friend (fuggin really got under your skin today, huh?) is that people will listen to complete and utter bullshit about Obama being a Muslim because they cannot think for themselves.

It is sad, really.

I do not believe he's a Muslim, just as I do not believe he is a Christian (As he claims). I see him as an empty suit -- a snake oil salesman, so to say.

As for those who do believe him to be Muslim, I can understand why they believe this, based on the reports out there. But I am not one of them.

[Shameless]

I do not believe he's a Muslim, just as I do not believe he is a Christian (As he claims). I see him as an empty suit -- a snake oil salesman, so to say.

As for those who do believe him to be Muslim, I can understand why they believe this, based on the reports out there. But I am not one of them.

Why do you think he's an empty suit? Why do you think people should think he's a Muslim? And do you think it's okay to not vote for him because you think he's Muslim?

[PMUN NY]

NEW YORK (CNN) 05:58 PM ET – After a rush of superdelegate endorsements Tuesday, Barack Obama is currently a dozen delegates away from the 2,118 required to claim the Democratic nomination

Hooray! Obama now only needs 12 delegates from tonights 31 ordinary delegates that are up for grabs in South Dakota and Montana. Will wait to see if Clinton will do the honorable thing and bow out gracefully tonight or continue on her selfish path to destroy the Democratic Party?

Bring on McCain/Bush III!

[Amadeus]

I'll now have to admit, this was our (most of my fellow conservatives) goal - to drive the political stake down Hillary's political heart.


Be fair: Just about everyone wanted her out of the race. The only vote she still had/has was the Gay vote; i've heard a lot of gay men say that they want to vote for her simply because they want to see a woman in office, and that "if [politicians]'re all the same anyways, why not her?" However, gay people make up ~10% of the country's population. Even if every single gay man and woman was to vote for her, I still don't think it would make up for everyone else voting for Obama.

[SurvivalistMan]

Bush is about as Christian as Obama.

In other words, neither are what they claim to be.

[Devastation]

Barack Hussein Zawahri Al-Jazeera Abdul Jabbar Obama may not be Muslim, but...he could be a secret Muslim!!!

[Chewy]

Barack Hussein Zawahri Al-Jazeera Abdul Jabbar Obama may not be Muslim, but...he could be a secret Muslim!!!

well either way evil might run in his family (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21340764/)

[Mr. Heskey]

Hillary has the popular vote by about a 3000 vote margin. I'm surprised they would allow Obama to win after the 2000 elections.

[Spike Lee]

Hillary has the popular vote by about a 3000 vote margin. I'm surprised they would allow Obama to win after the 2000 elections.

No she doesnt.

* If you don't count Michigan, Obama wins the popular vote with or without caucus estimates.

* If you do count Michigan, Clinton wins the popular vote with or without caucus estimates.

* If you count Michigan and award Uncommitted's votes to Obama, then Obama wins with the caucus estimates, and Clinton wins without caucus estimates.

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan which truly makes that argument null and void. Let alone those three thousand will be erased today.

[BlueMind]

Saddam's last name was Hussien. :squint:

[Bo Jackson]

Making Clinton your VP makes no sense. Generally, VPs are worthless do-nothings like Cheney. Putting such an opinionated, polarizing person in that position would greatly hurt Obama's chances. He'd lose my vote, and I'm sure I'm not alone. I believe it would make a lot of us Republicans jump back over the fence and go with McCain.

[PMUN NY]

Generally, VPs are worthless do-nothings like Cheney.

Not sure you can say the Cheney is a do-nothing, he's had more power than any previous VP. Of course if helped having one of the worst, stupidest and weakest President to serve under.

Can't believe that selfish bitch Clinton couldn't finally do the right thing last night and concede. Theres no way that Obama should let her on the ticket and after her speech last night there is no way he could let her on now without looking spineless and being bullied into it! The Democrats should freeze her out of everything until she accepts, in a very public way, that she has lost the election every mathematical and logical way.

[vchampionl70]

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan which truly makes that argument null and void. Let alone those three thousand will be erased today.


It doesn't make it null and void, just less compelling. Nonetheless, the closeness of popular vote between Hillary and Barack is indicative of at least one important thing:

Contrary to the way he and his suppoters would argue, Barack Obama has no legitimate widespread appeal in the Democratic party. He obtained fewer than 51% of the total votes counted, hardly a show of unity. His large rallies might remind us that his supporters are passionate and show up in large numbers, but they deceive us because they overrepresent his support.

For all that they have criticized George W. Bush for, 51% of Democrats have opted for a candidate of even less political experience, even less foreign policy experience, and for a candidate who just might prove to be more divisive in the long haul.

[chalupa]

It doesn't make it null and void, just less compelling. Nonetheless, the closeness of popular vote between Hillary and Barack is indicative of at least one important thing:

Contrary to the way he and his suppoters would argue, Barack Obama has no legitimate widespread appeal in the Democratic party. He obtained fewer than 51% of the total votes counted, hardly a show of unity. His large rallies might remind us that his supporters are passionate and show up in large numbers, but they deceive us because they overrepresent his support.

For all that they have criticized George W. Bush for, 51% of Democrats have opted for a candidate of even less political experience, even less foreign policy experience, and for a candidate who just might prove to be more divisive in the long haul.

...and he might grow a third arm out of his butt. However, neither you nor I can predict the future.

[Mr. Heskey]

No she doesnt.

* If you don't count Michigan, Obama wins the popular vote with or without caucus estimates.

* If you do count Michigan, Clinton wins the popular vote with or without caucus estimates.

* If you count Michigan and award Uncommitted's votes to Obama, then Obama wins with the caucus estimates, and Clinton wins without caucus estimates.

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan which truly makes that argument null and void. Let alone those three thousand will be erased today.

But how do you think the presidential elections run? Like primaries. Obama had a strong showing in caucus states, but it isn't really going to matter since everything is run like the primaries.

[Spike Lee]

But how do you think the presidential elections run? Like primaries. Obama had a strong showing in caucus states, but it isn't really going to matter since everything is run like the primaries.

If that is your case, then popular vote doesn't matter since its the electoral college that does.

[Mr. Heskey]

If that is your case, then popular vote doesn't matter since its the electoral college that does.

Then I go back to my original point, if Hillary won the popular vote, shouldn't she get it since 2000 pissed so many democrats off?

[chrisvet]

Quote by Shameless:Whoa, whoa, whoa.


You're saying that Obama's middle name is Hussein!?!


Quote by Shameless: So now all that's left is Barack Hussein "It's pronounced 'bin Ladin' like the terrorist" Obama.

America is doomed.


Quoted by Shamless:
Do you think Hussein "Call Me Osama" Obama is going to start his jihad on Christianity before or after he enters office?

Thats 3 times you avoided the article to attack FB. Jabbing sticks to provoke a confrontation? Well well well. You're trolling Shameless, how hypocritical of you. :lol::lol:

[FugginBastid]

Right, Chris. On my side, I've never called the man, except for what I believe to be an "empty suit", or a "snake oil salesman", other than his name.

Ted Kennedy cannot say the same.

[Spike Lee]

Then I go back to my original point, if Hillary won the popular vote, shouldn't she get it since 2000 pissed so many democrats off?

Ummm.... no. Because she didn't win the popular vote. You're going back to a flawed argument. eITHER way, the two points invalidate each other.

[Jordan]

Right, Chris. On my side, I've never called the man, except for what I believe to be an "empty suit", or a "snake oil salesman", other than his name.

Ted Kennedy cannot say the same.

Wait, so you're saying Black Hussein Osama bin laden is nothing more than an "empty suit"

Why do you say this?

[FugginBastid]

Again, Chris, excellent post.

Even though I believe you to be on the far left of my political ideals, you do post like you're an adult, and I appreciate that.

[chrisvet]

Wait, so you're saying Black Hussein Osama bin laden is nothing more than an "empty suit"

Why do you say this?

Empty suit? Damn straight. I think Obama's a smooth talking inexperienced bullshiter who gets by on his good looks and personality. I have problems with his religious background, and don't buy any of the arguments in this forum that exonerate him from any wrongdoing. Swimming in that shit for 20 years raises big red flags. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528) for me.
I also think its funny when people use his middle name, because it incinuates he's an evil terrorist out to get us. BTW, you see this guy: he's brown, everyone loves him, so we nicknamed him Barack (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/Chris_Vet/NewFloorz.jpg).


I think McCain brain dead when it comes to economic issues, but the man does have more honor than most Americans (or canadians) can brag about. (he did afterall choose 5 years of torture in exchange for freeing other Americans) Here's a few reasons I don't like McCain, firstly he constantly bullshits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c) As far as either doing the right thing for the US? Nope Nadda never. But thats another long economic discussion.

Again, Chris, excellent post.

Even though I believe you to be on the far left of my political ideals, you do post like you're an adult, and I appreciate that.

:lol: I've said this before to you, if we were all in 1 large room, the wisecracks that get tossed around this forum would wither and die. I have no problems being friends with people who have the opposite political beliefs, it only represents a very small portion of our lives / interests. (thank the Geezuz Lord) ;)

[Spike Lee]

Empty suit? Damn straight. I think Obama's a smooth talking inexperienced bullshiter who gets by on his good looks and personality. I have problems with his religious background, and don't buy any of the arguments in this forum that exonerate him from any wrongdoing. Swimming in that shit for 20 years raises big red flags. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528) for me.



I still don't know how any of that means he is an empty suit. He has plans regarding the economy, military, etc. It just that most people either didn't listen to it or chose to ignroe it or not look for it in my opinion. You can go to ontheissues or his website and download blueprint for change.

[Amadeus]

Empty suit? Damn straight. I think Obama's a smooth talking inexperienced bullshiter who gets by on his good looks and personality.


But, you'd get in a lot of trouble if you said this around Obama supporters; they seem to blindly follow this man. Every website and forum I go to is Pro-Obama, saying generic things like "OBAMA '08!" without citing a reason WHY he'd make an amazing president other than "look at this speech he's given, and what a bitch Hillary is!"

It comes across as fellating, not supporting.


(If this was Digg or Youtube, i'd be at -28 diggs right now)

[Spike Lee]

But, you'd get in a lot of trouble if you said this around Obama supporters; they seem to blindly follow this man. Every website and forum I go to is Pro-Obama, saying generic things like "OBAMA '08!" without citing a reason WHY he'd make an amazing president other than "look at this speech he's given, and what a bitch Hillary is!"

It comes across as fellating, not supporting.


(If this was Digg or Youtube, i'd be at -28 diggs right now)

That was the case with Ron Paul on Digg before he was swept under. Either way, this is not the same forum as those places and that is expected in supporters of almost any candidate.

[chrisvet]

But, you'd get in a lot of trouble if you said this around Obama supporters; they seem to blindly follow this man. Every website and forum I go to is Pro-Obama, saying generic things like "OBAMA '08!" without citing a reason WHY he'd make an amazing president other than "look at this speech he's given, and what a bitch Hillary is!"

It comes across as fellating, not supporting.


(If this was Digg or Youtube, i'd be at -28 diggs right now)

Hillary is the worst of the bunch. :boink: What did my online girlfriend say once: Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. :lol:(madameX)

Its no secret I don't like either Barack or McCain, and many guys in here feel the same. I don't see them as qualified men to Run the (still) most powerful nation on the planet. I'd love to see Trump do it and clean up the mess in Washinton, but even he's too smart to kill his popularity / future empire building. Besides, I don't blame or attack either candidates supporters, they're people like you and I with an opinion who think they're making the right choice.

BTW, interesting avatar :lol:

You can go to ontheissues or his website and download blueprint for change. Oh if I had to chose between either, it would be Obama for the simple reason he plans to make more agressive withdrawls from Iraq. The economics of that alone will save Americans Billions and Billions (perhaps Trillions in time.)

[Shameless]

Thats 3 times you avoided the article to attack FB. Jabbing sticks to provoke a confrontation? Well well well. You're trolling Shameless, how hypocritical of you. :lol::lol:

Lol, obviously a joke. Notice I didn't angrily post my number for him to explain himself...:rolleyes:

[MadameX]

Hillary is the worst of the bunch. :boink: What did my online girlfriend say once: Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. :lol:(madameX)

Its no secret I don't like either Barack or McCain, and many guys in here feel the same. I don't see them as qualified men to Run the (still) most powerful nation on the planet. I'd love to see Trump do it and clean up the mess in Washinton, but even he's too smart to kill his popularity / future empire building. Besides, I don't blame or attack either candidates supporters, they're people like you and I with an opinion who think they're making the right choice.

BTW, interesting avatar :lol:

Oh if I had to chose between either, it would be Obama for the simple reason he plans to make more agressive withdrawls from Iraq. The economics of that alone will save Americans Billions and Billions (perhaps Trillions in time.)

Online girlfriend??? Hehehehehehehhehe... :lmao:

I'm not your online girlfriend, but I have to say you have a really nice living room!

[SurvivalistMan]

Online girlfriend??? Hehehehehehehhehe... :lmao:

I'm not your online girlfriend, but I have to say you have a really nice living room!

I'm guessing my living room wasn't nice enough for you. Typical picky bitch.:rolleyes:

Just kidding, I had to say something...I have nothing else to add to this thread. Bye!

[Boomer]

Why do pseudo-conservatives always keep the phrase "us conservatives", "I'm a conservative" or "proudly conservative" in their mouth when their views are the textbook definition of a neo-con?

It's not what you say that matters, it's your deed that betrays you. Like mentioning Obama's middle name somehow would give you more credibility when it actually makes you look childish.

... the witch is dead.:lmao:

I'll now have to admit, this was our (most of my fellow conservatives) goal - to drive the political stake down Hillary's political heart.

Now, on to the general election, where, IMHO, more dirt comes out on Barack Hussein Obama, the empty suit.

[FugginBastid]

Online girlfriend??? Hehehehehehehhehe... :lmao:

I'm not your online girlfriend, but I have to say you have a really nice living room!

You tell 'em, X!!!

Chris, dude -- she's MINE.:D

[Jordan]

Empty suit? Damn straight. I think Obama's a smooth talking inexperienced bullshiter who gets by on his good looks and personality. I have problems with his religious background, and don't buy any of the arguments in this forum that exonerate him from any wrongdoing. Swimming in that shit for 20 years raises big red flags. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528) for me.
I also think its funny when people use his middle name, because it incinuates he's an evil terrorist out to get us. BTW, you see this guy: he's brown, everyone loves him, so we nicknamed him Barack (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/Chris_Vet/NewFloorz.jpg).

Wasn't directed at you, but thanks for explaining your position.
I find it completely speculative and paranoid, but that's just (MY HONEST OPINION)


I think McCain brain dead when it comes to economic issues, but the man does have more honor than most Americans (or canadians) can brag about. (he did afterall choose 5 years of torture in exchange for freeing other Americans) Here's a few reasons I don't like McCain, firstly he constantly bullshits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c) As far as either doing the right thing for the US? Nope Nadda never. But thats another long economic discussion.
Agreed 100%. McCain is more of an empty-suit puppet than Obama is, IMHO.

[FugginBastid]

Empty suit? Damn straight. I think Obama's a smooth talking inexperienced bullshiter who gets by on his good looks and personality. I have problems with his religious background, and don't buy any of the arguments in this forum that exonerate him from any wrongdoing. Swimming in that shit for 20 years raises big red flags. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528) for me.


Yep. Great Post! There are those of us who see right through him. And I think the reason being, is we've been burned be the likes, before. In other words, we've seen the movie before, and we've come to learn the sequals suck, with very few exceptions.

I still don't know how any of that means he is an empty suit. He has plans regarding the economy, military, etc. It just that most people either didn't listen to it or chose to ignroe it or not look for it in my opinion. You can go to ontheissues or his website and download blueprint for change.

Yes, and I have over 300 websites. If I were to create a website, post my, "blueprint for change", would I expect everyone to buy it, hook, line and sinker? I don't think so. But just like those who send us SPAM -- they're sending it because SOME actually click the link and buy stuff.

[Henkie]

Yes, and I have over 300 websites. If I were to create a website, post my, "blueprint for change", would I expect everyone to buy it, hook, line and sinker? I don't think so. But just like those who send us SPAM -- they're sending it because SOME actually click the link and buy stuff.

Whether you agree with them or not is a totally different matter. Obama has ideas and plans, the fact that a lot of people are ignoring them is not to blaim on Obama. Since he has these ideas and plans, he is not an empty suit, this is the simple conclusion.

[FugginBastid]

Whether you agree with them or not is a totally different matter. Obama has ideas and plans, the fact that a lot of people are ignoring them is not to blaim on Obama. Since he has these ideas and plans, he is not an empty suit, this is the simple conclusion.

I'd be willing to bet those "ideas" and "plans" aren't even his own. That doesn't mean I don't know they aren't his, but what I do know is, where he went to "church" for over 20 years, along with his questionable ties to shady characters.

Just try to connect the dots.

[GhostJang]

I'd be willing to bet those "ideas" and "plans" aren't even his own. That doesn't mean I don't know they aren't his, but what I do know is, where he went to "church" for over 20 years, along with his questionable ties to shady characters.

Just try to connect the dots.

You call him an empty suit but his plans and ideas are on his website. Therefore, you are wrong.

[Henkie]

I'd be willing to bet those "ideas" and "plans" aren't even his own. That doesn't mean I don't know they aren't his, but what I do know is, where he went to "church" for over 20 years, along with his questionable ties to shady characters.

Just try to connect the dots.

Untill his ideas include the ending of the 'Aids for Black people'-campaign in the US, I think we're pretty safe on that front. The ideas he actively does put forth are not clearly influenced by Rev. Wright. Furthermore, since he does put forth ideas, you can't call him an empty suit. If you're ever going to make an informed decision, btw, and not just go on a partisan-hunch and what FOX-news tells you, you might actually want to do some research on the guy.

[FugginBastid]

Furthermore, since he does put forth ideas, you can't call him an empty suit.

The F I can't. lol

Have you ever been to a used car lot? Those guys have plenty of "ideas".

[GhostJang]

The F I can't. lol

Have you ever been to a used car lot? Those guys have plenty of "ideas".

You can't "honestly" call him an empty suit if he has put forth ideas.

[Henkie]

The F I can't. lol

Have you ever been to a used car lot? Those guys have plenty of "ideas".

And they might be lying, frauding, whatever, they're not empty suits. And unless you want to suggest that Obama is doing those things (and you'll need to get an idea of what he stands for, before you can disagree with him) you're spewing nonsense.

[Yuseke]

And they might be lying, frauding, whatever, they're not empty suits. And unless you want to suggest that Obama is doing those things (and you'll need to get an idea of what he stands for, before you can disagree with him) you're spewing nonsense.

But it's not nonsense Henkie. He has a very reliable source. His own mind! dun dun dun

Then so be it. When I form an opinion, I believe it to be FACT

[Jordan]

No point in arguing someone who's only source of proof and "FACT" is either,

A.His head.
B.Fox news.

Give it up, guys. He is, was, and will be banned as a troll.

[Chupacabra]

IMHO, Hillary would beat McCain in a landslide. Now, if she's actually dropping out, most of her followers will vote for McCain, or at least that's what I'm reading.

The Obama voters, IMHO, for the most part, voted on EMOTION. Emotion has a way of self-depleting.

I see a McCain/Romney landslide, HISTORIC, victory over the empty suit, come November.
your dumb then... a pro war republican is not winning this election.

[PMUN NY]

Only two hours now until she gets her nationally televised concession speech. Cant wait to see if she will be gracious in defeat and admit she has lost fair and square. OR spend the whole speech talking about how great she is and why she should be the democratic candidate. Hopefully she wont give another speech like Tuesday nights "concession"!

[FugginBastid]

Only two hours now until she gets her nationally televised concession speech. Cant wait to see if she will be gracious in defeat and admit she has lost fair and square. OR spend the whole speech talking about how great she is and why she should be the democratic candidate. Hopefully she wont give another speech like Tuesday nights "concession"!

I wonder if she'll be announcing her being the VP pick. lol

You never know...