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Ganolli
08-08-2004, 09:23 PM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.

drowningaugust
08-08-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Ganolli

Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.


Um, most of those bands sing about the same subject matter as every metal band, so dont complain about rap doing the same. Go pick up anything by A Tribe Called Quest or The Fugees if you dont want the "pimps and hos" of modern rap.

smokythebear
08-08-2004, 09:27 PM
well, my very narrow minded friend, i happen to hate rap to but i bet you've listend to beastie boys and liked it as have i and try some old rap like run DMC and Bone Thugs in Harmony

Ganolli
08-08-2004, 09:32 PM
well, my very narrow minded friend, i happen to hate rap to but i bet you've listend to beastie boys and liked it as have i and try some old rap like run DMC and Bone Thugs in Harmony


SRRY MAN , I HAVE , MY FRIENDS LISTEN TO THE OLD STUFF AND I HAPPEN TO BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT , BUT ITS JUST NOT MY TYPE OF MUSIC

MCnewyork
08-08-2004, 09:38 PM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.
buddy first of all let me say u sound like an idiot... no talent... hmmmm have u even klistened to any rap.... how about u listen to jucy by biggie.. or changes by tupac like wow that was one of the stupidest things ive ever heard .. ya u get ppl like feminem and gunit who suck ass.. but really listen to some real rap then see if u can say that they have no talent and they all sing about bitches and hoes!
and if raps so easy then u do it!

Sezril
08-08-2004, 09:48 PM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.
First off, Hatebreed, Ill Nino, Slipknot, Godsmack and Van Halen aren't even metal. Second, the other shit you listed is just that - shit.

Third, you're a fucking prick who has no idea how music works, therefore should stop making an ass of yourself.

lameassdude
08-08-2004, 10:09 PM
First off, Hatebreed, Ill Nino, Slipknot, Godsmack and Van Halen aren't even metal. Second, the other shit you listed is just that - shit.

Third, you're a fucking prick who has no idea how music works, therefore should stop making an ass of yourself.

I agree with you, you look like a fucking idiot

w00tbot47
08-08-2004, 10:19 PM
Yeah, rap may not be the best but it is music. I have no problem with rap, though i prefer rock anyday, i dont go to people and say 'OMG RAP IS TEH S UXXORZ!!LOL!!!11oneone' and turn off caps, it just makes you look that much stupider for not being able to hit a button, while you have basic understanding of the english language, and wierd as it may be.

pat99872
08-08-2004, 10:22 PM
every person has a different taste for music

crazysocks
08-08-2004, 10:22 PM
it seems odd to me that someone can make millions of dollers by saying, not singing, profanity. i know in the music i listen to they swear and stuff but yea there is actually a point to the song. theres talent in the singing and guitar and drums and everything. theres actually meaningfull lyrics. but in rap (in general) there is just a beat and a guy talking in to the microphone about how he's a pimp, or how he murdered this guy, or how he has many b!tches and hoes. most songs have completely pointless lyrics. sure the rapper may have some talent rhyming but im sure everyone can rhyme to some degree. to me it's absurd it is that artists like 50cent and Chingy are making millions of dollers every day when there are good artists and small bands that can't even get a cd put out. these bands actually have talent and they can sing and play instruments and all there songs sound different. they arn't just swearing into a mic. but i don't get why all of a sudden everyone wants to be a gangster and why rap is so great.
but unlike some people i do respect some rap artists like eminem. he does have talent. there are a few rap artists that yes they are very good at rhyming and stuff but then tehre are so many more rap artists that just got lucky and thats the only reason why they are in the busness. i mean if everyone in G-Unit didn't know 50cent do you really think they would have a record deal? and that is why i hate rap so much. it's because most artists just know people and that's why they get record deals. then those artists put out bad songs that have no meaning what so ever and are only intended to make money. those rap artists take away from the good rap and that's why im sure alot of people hate it. because artists with the intention to make moeny and live the pimp lifestyle are clogging up the system with their bad songs adn the actual good rap artists rarely get recognized.

Ganolli
08-08-2004, 10:50 PM
not all rap is dumb . i apologize, i was just being stupid and i really never meant to say any of that stuff i was just tryin to say that im not a fan of rap , i just said it in the wrong words , once again i apologize

Ganolli
08-08-2004, 10:51 PM
First off, Hatebreed, Ill Nino, Slipknot, Godsmack and Van Halen aren't even metal. Second, the other shit you listed is just that - shit.

Third, you're a fucking prick who has no idea how music works, therefore should stop making an ass of yourself.

sezril , what do you consider metal then ?

RESURRECTION X
08-08-2004, 10:55 PM
HA!HA! i got to give it to ya Gan,apologizing...
well i dont forgive you Gan...
*claps his hands twice* Admins,feel free to ban him! : P

lameassdude
08-08-2004, 11:09 PM
I found that quite funny too, way to give people first impressions

joekickass
08-08-2004, 11:22 PM
next time be careful what u say, man. cause if your saying something controversial such as not liking rap (i don't like it either) you can't back down.

Sezril
08-09-2004, 01:24 AM
sezril , what do you consider metal then ?
To clarify, just because something's heavy and loud doesn't mean it's metal.

To answer your question... Impaled (Death), Judas Iscariot (Black), Testament (Thrash), Dream Theater (Progressive), Blind Guardian (Power), Sleep (Doom).

...and those are just the basics.

pacaveli
08-09-2004, 02:32 AM
just to let u kno the best rapper alive right now in my opinion is Immortal Technique. Download these couple of sonds and u'll see why

dance with the devil
you never know
the message and the money
and industrial revolution

rubberducky0514
08-09-2004, 03:08 AM
To clarify, just because something's heavy and loud doesn't mean it's metal.

To answer your question... Impaled (Death), Judas Iscariot (Black), Testament (Thrash), Dream Theater (Progressive), Blind Guardian (Power), Sleep (Doom).

...and those are just the basics.

sezril im definetly with you...although rap isnt my kind of music it takes talent to do that shit...believe it or not buddy....seriously why dont you try rapping? lol this reminds me...when these rap people came to my school last year for diversity week these students went on stage to rap cuz they thought they could and one of them was..well kinda mentally challenged...lol....when it was his turn the guy before him said "take a flight" the mentally challenged kid said "i cant fight" ....lol...after that everyone was out to beat his ass...anyways back to the subject...basically i listen to metal but when it comes to rap buddy..have ur facts straight and dont act like "rap listeners" dont think the same about metal...

Sezril
08-09-2004, 03:14 AM
just to let u kno the best rapper alive right now in my opinion is Immortal Technique. Download these couple of sonds and u'll see why

dance with the devil
you never know
the message and the money
and industrial revolution
Immortal Technique is excellent, though I haven't gotten around to listening to a lot of his stuff. :(

jessicajackson
08-09-2004, 03:21 AM
I really can't stand when people say things like "I hate rap, its not even music".

I hate to break it to you, but just because you don't like it, doesn't mean its not real music. There are so many different types of music out there & its ok to not like some types.

However, don't be so close minded & think that everyone should follow your opinion. Everyone likes different things, so if you don't like it, don't even talk about it. Don't put it down, & don't put down the people who like it.

Its ok to state your opinion, but don't do it in such a close minded way. Realize that we are all different & like different things. Don't tell people that they should hate rap & expect everyone to agree. Whats the point anyway? Do you think that just becaues you wrote that rap sucks, everyone who likes rap will suddenly hate rap? Its not going to happen, so why even waste your time?

lameassdude
08-09-2004, 03:27 AM
The funny thing is i havent seen any people that like rap, say rock sucks, kinda kinky

sexaaylilblonde
08-09-2004, 11:51 AM
tupac is dead! and rap is awesome! so STFU!!!

disturbed2
08-09-2004, 12:04 PM
The funny thing is i havent seen any people that like rap, say rock sucks, kinda kinky
most rock bands that are like dropkick murphys and all those less than jakes i cant stand, i get a headache. but if you want some kick ass rap listen to Kanye West.

/Tilt/
08-09-2004, 12:17 PM
most rock bands that are like dropkick murphys and all those less than jakes i cant stand, i get a headache. but if you want some kick ass rap listen to Kanye West.
i dont see how dropkick murphys and less than jake are similar, but i understand when people say they dont like DKM. pretty much a headbangin band, and headbanging can give people headaches. i also enjoy Kanye West.

Yeti Patrol
08-09-2004, 12:34 PM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.

Dude, you're an idiot. I don't like rap either, but there ARE rap artist who rap about the real stuff. Maybe you should stop being simple minded and listen to other types of music besides Metal, hell I listen to almost evrything besides country... =P

Metal, Heavy Metal, Alt Metal, Death Metal, Goth Metal, Jazz, Blues, Classical, Techno/Electronica....I like Outkast btw

Moonshyne
08-09-2004, 01:14 PM
SOME rap is ok.. like Outkast. But most of the time, it seriously sounds like they just download a beat off kazaa and freestyle about how pimped out they are with thier ho's...

unearth
08-09-2004, 07:51 PM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.


Instead of putting your energy into hating rap, how about you put your energy into not listening to Godsmack.

cwergy
08-09-2004, 10:45 PM
SOME rap is ok.. like Outkast. But most of the time, it seriously sounds like they just download a beat off kazaa and freestyle about how pimped out they are with thier ho's...
I like Outkast. I don't really like any other rap other than 80's rap.

Skater for life
08-09-2004, 10:52 PM
Sezril i think is talking about real metal, unlike slipknot, godsmack, and etc... He gives a whole list of what is real metal (and hes right) on another thread.

Barrett
08-09-2004, 11:04 PM
Wow, ganoli, your selection of greates metal bands is pathetic. You don't even know what true metal is. Slipknot and godsmack would not be in the top 200 best metal bands. I do not like rap, but rap does somewhat take skill and it is music none the less. music could be a quarter of a second of a single note.

pacaveli
08-09-2004, 11:45 PM
once again if u want to hear the best rapper in the game immortal technique is up there top 5 dead or alive

Copenhagen
08-10-2004, 12:08 AM
I'm pretty sure that freestyle rapping takes some talent, and making their beats requires some talent...

pacaveli
08-10-2004, 01:31 AM
the reason i like rap and not all but most is because it is deeper lyrically than anything rock has to offer. No one can tell me that sum1 has deeper songs than tupac

lameassdude
08-10-2004, 01:49 AM
the reason i like rap and not all but most is because it is deeper lyrically than anything rock has to offer. No one can tell me that sum1 has deeper songs than tupac

Ok now you've gone a little too far, rock isnt intellectual? i mean not all of it is, but what you hear on MTV is Sum 41, and Story of the year and shit like that. just like what we hear of rap, its all a bunch of shit. Here are some lyrics for you to look at and tell me that has no fucking meaning:


And I remember him fucking me,
And I remember liking it,
I didn't know any better...

And I remember the smell, and the pain, and the shame...
And I remember being afraid and thinking everyday,
Every single day.. that it was my fault...

Oh, but what happened to that little girl?
Who used to dream of one day ruling the world,
Who used to draw pretty pictures in my room---beneath the moon
Destroying to create
Softly praying to "God"

What do I do now?
What do I do now?

As I secretely masturbate...
But then I'd hear his hooves coming down the floor
With a Bible in his hand...

Softly opening my door and he'd say...

DAUGHTER! The day of your attonement is due!
Well there's 3 million sinners out there...
and that includes you!

No daddy, don't... no daddy, don't...
LEAVE ME ALONE! LEAVE ME ALONE! LEAVE ME ALONE!
NO, I DON'T WANT TO BE FREE! NO, I DON'T WANT TO BE FREE!
SO TAKE YOUR DICK OUT OF ME!
PLEASE TAKE YOUR DICK OUT OF ME! PLEASE TAKE YOUR DICK OUT OF ME! PLEASE TAKE
YOUR DICK OUT OF ME!

unearth
08-10-2004, 01:58 AM
the reason i like rap and not all but most is because it is deeper lyrically than anything rock has to offer. No one can tell me that sum1 has deeper songs than tupac


Are you actually trying to say that Tupac has the deepest lyrics in all of music?

ChronoKilla
08-10-2004, 02:12 AM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.

WTF im offended. I dont even listen to rap that much but i still have respect for the talent that goes into rapping, its very hard how about u try it.....o wait u cant becuase u suck. How dare u down some one elses culture, u are dork that want to flame people on forums.

PS. U havent even probably heard real rap before. You Dont even know what Metal is....Pittyful.

lameassdude
08-10-2004, 02:28 AM
Dont even start with this racist bullshit. he doesnt like rap does that mean he hates black people? no, it means hes ignorant for saying shit like that

ChronoKilla
08-10-2004, 02:40 AM
Man.........sry i was just trying to express myself just over did it i guess :) but still u cant make a whole damn topic about that shit pisses people off.

PsiRedEye22
08-10-2004, 03:10 AM
Rap takes extreme talent to perform. However, I have come to despise it for gloryfying the "thug" lifestyle (And don't come back at me with 'well try this or that band, they aren't all thugs!' because you know DAMN well what i mean).

The genre of music itself is just overly stereotyped, and mainly by the people that listen to it. All to many times a group of "homies" will stroll down the street listening to 50 Cent and just start harrassing random people. Is that because of the music? Intelligent people say no, and I can agree. But stupid people use it as a medium to do stupid shit and think it's "cool" to rape and murder and all this other shit.

The same can be said for rock and roll....but not to the same extent, not by a long shot. Rock and roll has it's own problems, hell yes it does, with the recent upbringing of that band who wanted to get someone to commit suicide onstage, to the classic Ozzy biting the head off of a bat.

When you weigh them both, it seems that all too many times, unfortunately, the true spirit of why rap music is written comes out. It might be theraputic to the writers to make such music, but with mindless bullshit like "bad influence" by Eminem, cmon, that shit isnt needed, that's not even a good rap song at all.

You might think I'm biased, well I'll tell you right now all the bands I like are either Hair Bands, Grunge, or 80's metal. But that doesn't stop be from being open-minded. I had a rap phase, and I'm sure any rap lover can agree with me that rap nowadays is becoming stupider. Eminem may be an exception, because his music is getting better (in my opinion). Dr. Dre was the KING of good rap, and when you put those two together, you get Forgot About Dre. The best rap song I've ever listened to.

I am by NO means a "thug" or "gangsta". Hell, I'm not even a minority. It comes down to what your fancy is. As long as you don't illustrate the points of the music (such as pimping hoes or killing people, or yourself) then there is ABSOLUTELY no problem with listening to ANYTHING. Listen to what ya like people, it's America for god sakes. :D

lameassdude
08-10-2004, 03:18 AM
The same can be said for rock and roll....but not to the same extent, not by a long shot. Rock and roll has it's own problems, hell yes it does, with the recent upbringing of that band who wanted to get someone to commit suicide onstage, to the classic Ozzy biting the head off of a bat.


What bad wanted someone to commit suicide onstage?

unbeltedjoker
08-10-2004, 03:26 AM
you are fucking right.....fuck rap...i hate taht shit..and i especially hate white people who think they can rap and think they are the coolest becasue they wear a jersey or a headband...maybe a bit of phat pharm...i only like 1 wigger...hes my neighbour and he's the only cool 1 i know....and my next sentence is proven science and it goes way back in the books....you can't spell CRAP without RAP......you see...its almost like rap had to be called taht...some guys were sittin around made some rhymes..said crap wrong and thats how they got it! ahahahhahaha and i could just see that...im with you all the way man...rap is horrible old, new, underground, in some1s house.....its all bad....its all CRAP

PsiRedEye22
08-10-2004, 03:29 AM
What bad wanted someone to commit suicide onstage?


Hell on Earth was their name.

lameassdude
08-10-2004, 03:50 AM
you are fucking right.....fuck rap...i hate taht shit..and i especially hate white people who think they can rap and think they are the coolest becasue they wear a jersey or a headband...maybe a bit of phat pharm...i only like 1 wigger...hes my neighbour and he's the only cool 1 i know....and my next sentence is proven science and it goes way back in the books....you can't spell CRAP without RAP......you see...its almost like rap had to be called taht...some guys were sittin around made some rhymes..said crap wrong and thats how they got it! ahahahhahaha and i could just see that...im with you all the way man...rap is horrible old, new, underground, in some1s house.....its all bad....its all CRAP

Please go eat your pie

GhostDog
08-10-2004, 04:04 AM
wana hear a good rap song, download Mos Def's - Close to the Edge or Mos Def's - Umi Says

PsiRedEye22
08-10-2004, 04:15 AM
Doesn't anyone around here BUY music anymore? I'm 18 and I feel old as hell. :p

Sezril
08-10-2004, 10:00 AM
you are fucking right.....fuck rap...i hate taht shit..and i especially hate white people who think they can rap and think they are the coolest becasue they wear a jersey or a headband...maybe a bit of phat pharm...i only like 1 wigger...hes my neighbour and he's the only cool 1 i know....and my next sentence is proven science and it goes way back in the books....you can't spell CRAP without RAP......you see...its almost like rap had to be called taht...some guys were sittin around made some rhymes..said crap wrong and thats how they got it! ahahahhahaha and i could just see that...im with you all the way man...rap is horrible old, new, underground, in some1s house.....its all bad....its all CRAP
So says the one with the lame ass anarchy symbol in his avatar.

Fucktard.

drowningaugust
08-10-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by pacaveli
the reason i like rap and not all but most is because it is deeper lyrically than anything rock has to offer. No one can tell me that sum1 has deeper songs than tupac

Well, I feel that rap and rock are on the same level of lyrical depth. As in rock, the best lyrics/music come from artists you don't see on MTV or hear on the radio, for the most part. Most rock bands you hear of sing about breakups and other depressing stuff, and most rappers you hear of rap about the "thug" lifestyle.

But if you go to the more underground stuff on both the rock and rap scenes, you find better music and better lyrics, in both styles of music, IMO.

unbeltedjoker
08-10-2004, 01:59 PM
the onlly good rap song i have is veryhard to find called icp - crystal ball....but i have a feeling thats not the name cuz there's a horibly song by them with the same name that sounds nothing like it the one i like has a full title of icp - crystal ball (off j's solo album very rare) this is the only 1 i like because it sounds more like rock than it does rap....used to listen to crappy music dr. dre, xibit(not bad if i listen to his older stuff), snoop doggg, bone crusher, ludacris, i dont like rap anymore....

WestSide
08-10-2004, 03:05 PM
I always thought people song about what they are living. tupac was a sort of prophet, gunit ( erm ) about hoes, and you about how satan is cool and ect.

pacaveli
08-10-2004, 07:34 PM
I dunt care who u are. The thug image tupac had wasn't the thug u all think of. HIs thug image was one of loyaltee. If his ppls were in a fite or a beef he was down to ride. But only if it was legitamate. He expected that from all his "freinds" and he gave it to them. Also all the tupac u hear on the radio is not his best work. When u listen to a CD u hear the single and go eh not that impressive compared to the toher shit. He sang about trtuh about what he lived througha nd about what he need to do.

unearth
08-10-2004, 11:56 PM
Fuck ICP, fuck Tupac....check out Talib Kweli, Aesop Rock, Mos Def, Cannibal Ox...

pacaveli
08-11-2004, 12:22 AM
fuck u nigga

tupac is the number 1 greatest rapper of all time. I dunt care who u are in the rap game. every1 respected and feared him. When he was making hit em up u kno what his producer said. Shit u do kno what u just made don't u. Tupac said hell yea. He was ready to step to any1 at any time. he was just that real

unearth
08-11-2004, 01:45 AM
fuck u nigga

tupac is the number 1 greatest rapper of all time. I dunt care who u are in the rap game. every1 respected and feared him. When he was making hit em up u kno what his producer said. Shit u do kno what u just made don't u. Tupac said hell yea. He was ready to step to any1 at any time. he was just that real

You sound like you're telling a fairy tale to your children. Got some references for these claims?

lameassdude
08-11-2004, 01:58 AM
Wow, thats seems like a really biased opinion. How can you say Tupac is the number 1 best rapper? Thats a bunch of bullshit, thats your opinion, but how the fuck do you know if thats true.

pacaveli
08-11-2004, 01:39 PM
every1 knows it's true. He changed the rap game more than any other rapper. Besides thoughs who engineered the genre. But they were using soft clay to mold. Tupac had to change the hardend clay.

U wanna kno that fairy tell. Ever seen the movie tupac ressurection. It shows all about his "image" He is the best rapper that ever lived. There is no argueing that its not a fuckin opinion it's a god damn fact

PsiRedEye22
08-11-2004, 01:46 PM
every1 knows it's true. He changed the rap game more than any other rapper. Besides thoughs who engineered the genre. But they were using soft clay to mold. Tupac had to change the hardend clay.

U wanna kno that fairy tell. Ever seen the movie tupac ressurection. It shows all about his "image" He is the best rapper that ever lived. There is no argueing that its not a fuckin opinion it's a god damn fact

Tupac is indeed the angel of "gangsta rap", by despite having such harsh acts to sing of in his lyrics, he actually was a really kind-hearted person. His movie makes no claims to being the most talented rapper of all time, ever. And I doubt it's true. I'll give Eminem more lyrical talent, but way less morals.

pacaveli
08-11-2004, 01:50 PM
if u put eminem ahead of tupac ur a faggot

YeaaBoii
08-11-2004, 02:00 PM
Of course rapping takes talent, just like any other music. They need to write lyrics, have somewhat of a good singing voice, and, I agree that Kanye West is good. His new CD is great. I reccomend it.


I don't really like Eminem, his voice is extremely annoying. Tupac is way better.

Sezril
08-11-2004, 04:53 PM
Tupac probably wasn't the best rapper lyrical wise, but he inspired a large amount of today's talent. He basically embodied 90's gangsta rap, so I don't think it'd be wrong to consider him the best.

pacaveli
08-11-2004, 05:35 PM
his lyrics weren't the greatest, but the message he portrayed was so deep. ANd at least 20 percent of his songs are teh deepest songs i've heard in my life

lameassdude
08-12-2004, 08:09 PM
In YOUR life. we all go through different shit in our lives, so we all have interest in different things. Just like if i got raped, i would be interested in songs like that cause i can relate. I cant really relate too well with tupacs lyrics, but some i can

TheRealNapster
08-13-2004, 10:03 PM
amen. i completly agree with u LameAssDude.

ddank
08-13-2004, 11:23 PM
/me puts on a hard core thug rap...(thug luv)

ok lots to read here. just wait like till you're an old fart, i bet music will be insane ha. i listen to everything btw, even some country :)


edit:

Doesn't anyone around here BUY music anymore? I'm 18 and I feel old as hell. :p

am i the only one that still feels YOUNG as hell???? i am only 21 years old.

lameassdude
08-14-2004, 12:02 AM
Country isnt as bad as people make it. Some of it can better shitty but old shit like Hanky Williams Jr., and Charlie Daniels, Jonhy Cash is great music.

pacaveli
08-14-2004, 12:18 AM
/me puts on a hard core thug rap...(thug luv)

ok lots to read here. just wait like till you're an old fart, i bet music will be insane ha. i listen to everything btw, even some country :)


edit:



am i the only one that still feels YOUNG as hell???? i am only 21 years old.



i can't beleive he tryed to emote....


i like rap, that prolly wunt change

Last_Words
08-14-2004, 12:50 AM
Picking between rap and metal is like picking between a strategy game and a first person shooter.
Its a matter of what you're into.

I hate the artists more than I hate their music. They go out on stage acting like gangstas and their homies and their hos and how dangerous their lives are in the ghetto, but of course they're millionaires who go home to their mansions afterwards.

In my opinion most the talent in rapping is coming up with good lyrics which many rappers are able to do. But then anyone can "sing" the way they do. I like metal more than rap but I could probably rap much better than I could try to sing a metal song which if its good requires talent. There's not many instruments to put any talent in either in rap. Just drums sometimes, maybe some precussion, and a dj. Anyone can hit a metal can to a beat, but not everyone can pick up a guitar and play it good. I know I can't, but perhaps thats a reason I admire those who can.

Not all metal is that great. I reallly dislike slipknot's second CD (Iowa), too much screaming. Corey Taylor (singer of slipknot) has a lot of talent though, and I really enjoyed the Stone Sour CD and Slipknot's Volume 3 where there wasn't as much screaming.

The media is obsessed with spreading this idea that Rap is the best type of music out there. And all that rap is about is being gangsta. The message that many stupid people out there are getting, is that its best to be gangsta.

No its not.

lameassdude
08-14-2004, 01:13 AM
Picking between rap and metal is like picking between a strategy game and a first person shooter.
Its a matter of what you're into.

I hate the artists more than I hate their music. They go out on stage acting like gangstas and their homies and their hos and how dangerous their lives are in the ghetto, but of course they're millionaires who go home to their mansions afterwards.

In my opinion most the talent in rapping is coming up with good lyrics which many rappers are able to do. But then anyone can "sing" the way they do. I like metal more than rap but I could probably rap much better than I could try to sing a metal song which if its good requires talent. There's not many instruments to put any talent in either in rap. Just drums sometimes, maybe some precussion, and a dj. Anyone can hit a metal can to a beat, but not everyone can pick up a guitar and play it good. I know I can't, but perhaps thats a reason I admire those who can.

Not all metal is that great. I reallly dislike slipknot's second CD (Iowa), too much screaming. Corey Taylor (singer of slipknot) has a lot of talent though, and I really enjoyed the Stone Sour CD and Slipknot's Volume 3 where there wasn't as much screaming.

The media is obsessed with spreading this idea that Rap is the best type of music out there. And all that rap is about is being gangsta. The message that many stupid people out there are getting, is that its best to be gangsta.

No its not.

Agrees, rap has become more mainstream than any other "pop bands", or anything else at the moment.

Rap requires some talent, but i mean look at some frontmen in Rock they dont even play an instrument, you know what i mean? Thats the exact thing in rap except you have your friends playing your backround music.

PeteythePISTOL
08-14-2004, 01:33 AM
The whole music industry is fucked

CKY RoCk~~ CKY ALLIANCE


INFILTRATE
DESTROY
REBUILD

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not that i dont respect other peoples opinions

Ajax
08-14-2004, 01:36 AM
HA!HA! i got to give it to ya Gan,apologizing...
well i dont forgive you Gan...
*claps his hands twice* Admins,feel free to ban him! : P

He won't be banned and he shouldn't be banned becasue he was expressing his opinion, I don't agree with it but he can say what he wants

lameassdude
08-14-2004, 01:48 AM
The whole music industry is fucked

CKY RoCk~~ CKY ALLIANCE


INFILTRATE
DESTROY
REBUILD

www.ckymusic.com


not that i dont respect other peoples opinions

CKY sucks the cock....

Not that i dont respect your opinion

REB GTA
08-14-2004, 01:53 AM
how many threads are there going to be saying rap sucks???

its so stupid

ddank
08-14-2004, 02:39 AM
i can't beleive he tryed to emote....


i like rap, that prolly wunt change

what do you mean?

Last_Words
08-14-2004, 12:19 PM
.Rap requires some talent, but i mean look at some frontmen in Rock they dont even play an instrument, you know what i mean? Thats the exact thing in rap except you have your friends playing your backround music.

Agrees. A lot of rock bands' singers play guitar at the same time, but most of the time its just adding noise when the only guitars that should be playing are the actual guitarists and not the singer, then the singer can just focus on looking good and singing well.

Good job lameassdude, you brought up a point showing how undifferent rock and rap are sometimes!

EbaumBoy
08-15-2004, 09:44 AM
yea rap sux SLIPKNOT RULES!!!

Sezril
08-15-2004, 10:09 AM
yea rap sux SLIPKNOT RULES!!!
I really hope you're just joking around.

Fuzzy Nutz
08-15-2004, 10:12 AM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.

hey fagboy all those fags that you listed claiming them to be real music...all they do is scream into the mic about bullshit.not all rap is like how you described...there's a certain poetry to GOOD rap.

lameassdude
08-15-2004, 07:39 PM
hey fagboy all those fags that you listed claiming them to be real music...all they do is scream into the mic about bullshit.not all rap is like how you described...there's a certain poetry to GOOD rap.

There was no need for saying the fags, and also dont be a fucking hypocrite, rock is good too....

d wil
08-22-2004, 05:19 PM
rap is the best music in regards to lyrics (i mean the good rappers like Tupac,lloyd banks,eminem etc.).All those guys use like 4 or 5 rhyming syllables at the end of every line, and every other kind of music uses like 3 tops once in a while. and........... BEASTIE BOYS ARE FAGS , THEY MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE WHITE!!!!!!

DreamTheater
08-22-2004, 05:22 PM
rap is the best music in regards to lyrics (i mean the good rappers like Tupac,lloyd banks,eminem etc.).All those guys use like 4 or 5 rhyming syllables at the end of every line, and every other kind of music uses like 3 tops once in a while. and........... BEASTIE BOYS ARE FAGS , THEY MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE WHITE!!!!!!

OH JESUS YOURE WHITE....


the apocalypse is near.

killerclown
08-22-2004, 08:12 PM
Rap , is not even music. There is no talent involved to make that shit. All they do is sing about bitches and hoes and grab their balls while doing it. Heavy Metal is the greatest type of music on the earth. The greatest metal bands are METALLICA , SLAYER , HATEBREED , ILL NINO , DAMAGEPLAN , SLIPKNOT, GODSMACK , AND VAN HALEN.....MANY MANY MORE.
Dude, Slipknot is basicly just hardcore rap. Have you heard spit it out, hes rapping, and many other songs. Slipknot is like rap except with a little screaming and guitars.
Edit: Also, people like you are starting to give heavy metal a bad name. You and your ignorant comments.

DreamTheater
08-22-2004, 08:17 PM
Edit: Also, people like you are starting to give heavy metal a bad name. You and your ignorant comments.
thats exactly what i was thinking when i was reading what he was saying..hey ill admit it....almost all of the first rappers were fuckin awesome.

*edit* o yeah..the o jesus youre white thing has to do with another thread very similar to this one....

Preggo MILF
08-22-2004, 09:57 PM
slipknots is kinda rap. but their new CD has a lot more singing and stuff. what seperates slipknot from rap is that they dont bitch about getting shot, lowriders, pimping hos, dealing drugs like EVERY rap song does.

Sezril
08-22-2004, 11:52 PM
slipknots is kinda rap. but their new CD has a lot more singing and stuff. what seperates slipknot from rap is that they dont bitch about getting shot, lowriders, pimping hos, dealing drugs like EVERY rap song does.
Idiot. Not every rap song raps about that.

afireinside4848
08-23-2004, 12:13 AM
slipknots is kinda rap. but their new CD has a lot more singing and stuff. what seperates slipknot from rap is that they dont bitch about getting shot, lowriders, pimping hos, dealing drugs like EVERY rap song does.

slipknot is not rap.it may seem like partly cause the talk fast in duality and stuff but the words and lines are difficult and long so they have to and thats one thing about metal is its fast and loud but yeah rap is about getting shot and "hittin up yo bitch on da east side" and black shit like that.

killerclown
08-23-2004, 12:22 AM
I mean I don't listen to rap, but I don't have anything against it. All rap isn't about pimpin, fucking hoes and shit. Only the crappy rap You've listened to. Also, if you think metal is all about playing fast, then you obviously haven't heard real metal.

Sezril
08-23-2004, 12:30 AM
slipknot is not rap.it may seem like partly cause the talk fast in duality and stuff but the words and lines are difficult and long so they have to and thats one thing about metal is its fast and loud but yeah rap is about getting shot and "hittin up yo bitch on da east side" and black shit like that.
SLIPKNOT ISN'T METAL.

lameassdude
08-23-2004, 12:33 AM
I mean I don't listen to rap, but I don't have anything against it. All rap isn't about pimpin, fucking hoes and shit. Only the crappy rap You've listened to. Also, if you think metal is all about playing fast, then you obviously haven't heard real metal.

Metal does not have to be fast to have an impact. Same for punk

Special_Forces
08-23-2004, 01:17 AM
Wow..All of you guys are kinda Stupid..This Guy posted this about Rap b/c he knew he'd Get flamed soo bad..It was his First post when He Posted this Thread.

I garuntee you he's Just saying that Stuff for Laughs to see how badly you guys flame him...For one thing look at all the Attention this Thread got.

99% of the time I ignore these Idiots but Some get too much attention

lameassdude
08-23-2004, 01:21 AM
Wow..All of you guys are kinda Stupid..This Guy posted this about Rap b/c he knew he'd Get flamed soo bad..It was his First post when He Posted this Thread.

I garuntee you he's Just saying that Stuff for Laughs to see how badly you guys flame him...For one thing look at all the Attention this Thread got.

99% of the time I ignore these Idiots but Some get too much attention

No shit sherlock.

Sezril
08-23-2004, 05:07 AM
Metal does not have to be fast to have an impact. Same for punk
This man speaks the truth. Just listen to Dream Theater or Pain of Salvation. Genius metal work and it's not even aggressive.

Last_Words
08-23-2004, 07:00 AM
One thing that I dislike is that some rap fans seem to think that they can rap about ANYthing, ANYwhere. I was in SCHOOL friday and like 4 student's, I'd say Juniors or Seniors, were blocking a doorway me and the rest of the class had to go through, rapping. Most of us were late since we had to squeeze through one at a time in a class of about 40 people.

I bullsh*t not, their song (I'm not really sure if rap "songs" are called songs) sounded exactly like this: "Smokin the rocks, Rollin the blunts, Chillin with homies, smackin the hoes, down in the hood".

Does that not support the fact that rap is just talking about being "gangsta"?

Sezril
08-23-2004, 10:41 AM
Does that not support the fact that rap is just talking about being "gangsta"?
Hahah, hold on. You're trying to condemn a whole genre over what a group of school kids 'rap' about?

Wow.

patriotwarrior7
08-23-2004, 10:46 AM
i dont mind rap or itself.if you dont like it dont listen to it.

plain and simple

d wil
08-23-2004, 09:54 PM
*edit* o yeah..the o jesus youre white thing has to do with another thread very similar to this one....[/QUOTE]



so what do you mean by it eh?